Originally posted by MKA Yoonis: they're all deniers of the punishment of the grave ! Can you substantiate your allegation that the Bangladesh Tablighi Jamaat denies the punishment of the grave? Do you have a (or two) link of their website stating what you have alleged? Until you substantiate your allegation, it's what it's; allegation.

Originally posted by Socod_badne: Shiekh Shariif and others are simply delusional if they think political Islam is viable option under present conditions. So, under what conditions can political Islam become a viable option?

Originally posted by General Duke: I dont know about your leader buy Yusuf is no warlord, he is a national leader and the`one who hs delivered fruits so far. Unlike many fakers he is a`man of principle.. To select Somalis (usually those from his group), Yusuf isn't a warlord, but to many others he's one. The same with Qaybdiid, Caydiid, Shaati Gaduud, Hiraale, iwm-- to select Somalis, they aren't warlords, but to many others they are. To the international community and press (including the West, Russia, iwm), this is how they know him: Ethiopian-backed warlord Abdullahi Yusuf. Evidence: Council on Foreign Relations MSNBC newsfromrussia

The Bishwa Ijtema (World Congregation) is an annual Tablighi Jamaat Islamic movement congregation held at Tongi, Bangladesh by the river Turag. The event focuses on prayers and meditation and does not allow political discussion. The first meeting was reportedly held in 1946 (although various sources indicate other dates for this) and continues to be organized by the Bangladesh Tablighi Jamaat. It last three days and is attended by over two million Muslims, making it the second largest congregation after the Hajj to Mecca. It is concluded with the Akheri Munajat, or final prayer. The tradition of Ijtema was initiated by an Indian savant named Maulana Ilyas and began as a small group of religious-minded individuals gathering at a local mosque. For forty-one years Tongi has been the chosen location, although similar programs are held on a lesser scale in other countries. The Ijtema is non-political, and therefore perhaps it draws people of all persuasion. Prayer is held for the spiritual adulation, exaltation and welfare of the Muslims community. This immensely popular program gives the people of Bangladesh an opportunity to interact with Muslims from other countries and is commonly attended by prominent political figures. The congregation takes place at an area comprising 160 acres of land (0.25 square mile). Devotees from approximately 80 countries, including the host country, Bangladesh, attend the three-day Ijtema seeking divine blessings from Allah. Muhammad Ilyas founded the Tabligh movement in 1927 at Saharanpur of Uttar Pradesh, India and at the same time organized regional congregation or Ijtema. In course of time, Ijtema movement spread throughout the subcontinent and also influenced other regions. After the partition of Bengal in 1947, three Ijtema centres developed in three parts of the subcontinent - India, West Pakistan and East Pakistan. Biswa Ijtema at Tongi is the annual Tabligh congregation of East Pakistan. In addition to Tongi, Ijtemas are now held in Raiwind, Pakistan and Bhopal, India. However, in terms of popular attendance, the Tongi Ijtema is the largest of all these congregations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishwa_Ijtema

Originally posted by Sky: well educated (aqcuired his master degree in the university of Cairo) It's akhlaaq that makes one well educated; not a higher degree. Surely, an individual who looks down at fellow Somalis he considers inferiors or low caste is an individual who cannot be well educated.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: It is not about the temper alone but what he says in Somali insulting the Arabs as well if you could hear it. He calls them nasab-dhiman and says "war maxay ahaayeen ------> then the word". Qeyladiisa waxaa laga yaabaa inuu dhegaha la'yahay may be, so that can be excused. Yeah, I heard the "M" word he employed. The question is, do we have to fault the old man for employing the "M" word? I mean, he was raised to believe he's superior to groups he and his likes consider inferior or low caste such as the "M" and others. Besides, he's secular, and you know seculars do not practice what Islam teaches about equality, how the degree of one's taqwa is the deciding factor of one being better than the other, iwm. So, no, we can't fault seculars, qabiilists, clanists, iwm for their superiority complex. Instead, we should understand where they are coming from, but we should always know it's people like them who destroyed Somalia. We should also know the future and hope of Somalia lies in people like leaders and members of the ICU.

Originally posted by Dabshid: and if you see yourself more educated, replace him, and let him retire, instead of making fun of him. There are many more educated, experienced and qualified professionals than the ambassador. However, we all know you can only get the job through nepotism. The TFG doesn't need more educated or qualified professionals; it needs loyal kins at key positions of the government. As for the ambassador, the guy is too quick-tempered; there was no need to embarrass himself.

Originally posted by General Duke: Even Sadam Hussain fought till the end Sometimes you make or invent unnecessarily inaccurate statements, like the above one. You prove nothing by making or inventing such statements. Wasn't you the one who claimed 80% of the Iraqi insurgency consist of Saddamits? When you are about to add such statements, before you click the "Add Reply" button, ask yourself whether it's necessary to add such statements.

Kismaayonews.com reports the culprit behind the dugsi bombing is actually the Ethiopian occupiers: Itoobiyaanka oo madfac ku tuuray iskuul Islaami ah...

Originally posted by General Duke: Even Qadsiye.com the local mouth piece has been claiming these attacks on behalf of the clan courts. The Qaadisiya.com reports on behalf of the ICU is regarding attacks against the invaders, occupiers and collaborators, not against innocents. I challenge you to post a report from Qaadisiya.com claiming the attack against the dugsi was carried out by ICU insurgents.

Originally posted by General Duke: 7 ruux oo ku dhaawacmay Madfac ay soo rideen haraadigii maxkamadahii Islaamiga oo ku dul dhacay dugsi qur'aan oo ay wax ku baranayeen arday u badan haween Certainly, the TFG is applying the same tactic of US occupiers in Iraq and Afghanistan by killing innocent Somalis. The aim? Blame the ICU insurgency so to alienate the citizens. The question is, will it work? It didn't work in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it will probably not work in Somalia. If innocents are killed, it was done by the TFG, if not by the warlords, if not by merceneries or criminal elements. The ICU would never do something like that; that's why it made a strategic retreat so to spare the citizens further bloodshed. The ICU targets only the invaders, occupiers and collaborators. Allahu Akbar.

Originally posted by Jaylaani: You're comparing this cat to NABU MAXAMED (PBUH)? You didn't get it. I am comparing "this cat" to how a Muslim should be. Dwelling in masjid permanently and staying out of life in the world doesn't make one a Muslim; it makes one a hermit, monk, suufi, iwm. There is a reason why the West (the colonialists started and mandated it) encourages and supports Sufism for Muslims; because it makes its followers useless, docile, passive, timid, fatalists, backward, ignorants, iwm.

Originally posted by Jaylaani: He should dwell in the MASJID permanently and stay out of politics. So that he becomes a hermit, monk or Sufi? Dwelling in masjid permanently and staying out of life in the world isn't from Islam. In addition to being among the best Muslims who were close to Allah, the nabi (pbuh) and sahaba were also warriors, politicians, mujahideens, statesmen, diplomats, teachers, iwm. Your suggestion to Sheikh Sharif Ahmed is unwise.

Jacaylbaro is fine, especially since he likes Osama bin Laden, Al-Zarqawi, Al-Zawahiri and other Muslim leaders who fight like a man.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: It looks like the nigga inay iska dhaleen Vietnamese, Senegalese and Calibeesteen [Native First Nations of North America]. Balaayo qawad qabo. The dude really si si kale ayuu u egyahay. His palm shows how gacan ku dhiigle he is. Meeqo masaakiin ayuu dilay maraxa. Calling someone "nigga" is wrong; that's racist and against Islam. Ridiculing the Vietnamese, Senegalese (majority Muslims) and Calibeesteen is uncalled for. A person doesn't choose parents whom he/she is born from, how he/she looks like, his/her "Sanlaawe"nimo, iwm; that's upto Allah. I wonder how the "nigga"s, Vietnamese, Senegalese and Calibeesteen who visit this forum would feel about those racist and uncalled remarks. I see here a person of authority (moderator) abusing his/her power, teaching others ridiculing races ("nigga", Senegalese) he/she considers inferior and ugly is OK, ignoring what Islam warns about islaweynnimo, and most important mocking Allah's creations.

Originally posted by General Duke: The UN monitoring group and even the world powers knew of the involvement of these gorups. The same UN monitoring group and the world powers that knew of the involvement of 720 ICU mujahideens in helping Hezbollah's victory over Israel?

Originally posted by Ugly*geeky*girl: MY GOD :eek: ^Com'on, be reasonable.

Every few words, the guy keeps repeating "muxuu ahaa." That's not a professional way of speaking.

Originally posted by Conspiracy: Taliban, what exactly disappointed you matey ? Microsoft was touting Vista as an evolutionary version of Windows; it's not. I have found nothing appealing about its eye-candyness; it's just a heavily-fitted theme and skins. The system is barely functional with 1 gig of memory; you have to turn off many features to barely function at 512 mb of memory. With 2 gigs of memory, a system should be snappy; Vista isn't as it feels somewhat dragging. Vista doesn't support (a conspiracy so that you have to buy new ones) many hardware peripherals and components manufactured a few years ago. Obviously, Microsoft spent a lot of $$$ in advertisements to lure prospective buyers. However, prospective buyers have wisened up as they have learned from past mistakes of rushing to buy a new "shiny" product.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: They even said NO to the XP when it was first introduced ,,,,, they as the technology is advancing ppl didn't have choice but to use it ,,,,, just wait and u'll see everybody is using Vista soon ,,,,,,,,,,, Today, the people have more than one choice. Apple's OSX is an example; it runs on the same hardware as Vista. OSX is far superior to Vista (Vista is a poor imitation of OSX), and it's less demanding than Vista. Vista's demand of 2 gigs of memory is absurd. You are in error; everybody will not be using Vista. In fact, more people from the Windows camp will switch to OSX. Check a demonstration of OSX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-LGTtdJqZs

Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: I was refering to the entire history of the Somali Bantu not just the civil war. What you were referring to is correct.

Vista is a big disappointment; stay with what you already got and you stay somewhat content.

Originally posted by Taako Man: All the unarmed clans have suffered for the duration of the civil war worse then maruading nomads who get in clashes and get out just as fast. Not all people from the armed clans were able or could afford to protect themselves; it's absurd to suggest otherwise because there were the weak and poor among them. That's why I stated every Somali group has suffered, some in a unique way, some with greater intensity, iwm.

Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: The people of Somali Bantu have suffered for more than a hundred and fifty.......I say the have suffered the "greatest". Indeed. HornAfrique wants to convince us Beelaha Banaadiriga are more marginalized than Somali Bantus. It's worth to note that most people from Beelaha Banaadiriga were able to leave Somalia during the early years of the civil war, while Somali Bantus have languished and only some of them recently managed to get out.