Originally posted by General Duke: the clan courts did get the support of both Djibouti and Eritrea, thus proving that their movement was not a religious one. However, that's a TFG propaganda.

Originally posted by General Duke: I would say a couple of months from now things will look rossy for the Somali people and their government. I would hold it to you and the TFG if a couple of months from now things turn out otherwise, insha'Allah. My signature would be a reminder.

Originally posted by General Duke: Indeed hence it supported the clan courts which was never an Islamic movement. Yours would be a desperate contradiction. Indeed, the ICU is a genuine Islamic movement, not "clan courts" as a few misinformed seculars claim.

Originally posted by General Duke: The disaramanet of Mogadishu will start, it will be thourough and effective, the weapons in use are light mirtars, no more technicals, heavy armour and so on. According to your confidential sources, how long would it take the TFG to accomplish the disaramament and restore peace to Mogadishu? Today, the date is the 20th of February; would it be safe for you to say the TFG would accomplish its tasks by the 20th of March or April?

Originally posted by General Duke: Was Djibouti not a supporter of the clan courts? You got that flat wrong. Djibouti's administration is secular; it can never support an Islamist movement. With a US base and CIA/FBI intelligence and surveillance of Djibouti, do you think Djibouti's administration could support a movement whose ideology clashes with its own?

Originally posted by General Duke: Mogadishu security will improve with the arrival of the AU forces in the next couple of weeks. From that point on wards there will be some tough measure taken to bring real order to the city and root out the groups making the bombings. 1. There will be real disarmaments, of all the clans of Mogadishu Insha Allah.. Security in Somalia does not depend on foreign troops or foreign aid. At least, it never has. In the mid-1990s, the United States and the United Nations poured hundreds of millions of dollars into stabilizing Somalia. But their efforts failed, leaving the country as capriciously violent and hopeless as it had ever been. Then along came the Islamists, who during their six-month reign last year pacified the hornet’s nest of Mogadishu without foreign peacekeepers or significant foreign aid. They succeeded by getting clans to voluntarily disarm their militias and getting Somalis on the street to buy into their Islam-is-the-answer solution (Somalia is almost purely Sunni Muslim). One Western diplomat laughed when asked if a modest force of peacekeepers — the African Union is proposing around 8,000 —could deliver the same level of stability that the Islamists had delivered on their own. “No way,” he said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “And the government’s urgency for peacekeepers shows you just how badly they’ve done with reconciliation.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/20/world/africa/20cnd-somalia.html?hp

Originally posted by The children of crappy poetry: Can anyone suggest anything? Many years ago, I used to read "Wadhaf Iyo Shimbiro War Isuma Hayaan" on Xiddigta Oktoobar newspaper. I am not sure if it's in publication, but it's a story I recomment it.

Originally posted by me: Can we also nominate who we most 'HATE' on SOL? You have emotion for people you don't know, people you have never met, here on SOL?

Originally posted by Khalaf: ......moderation is islam ninyahow.... I see you're moderate; good to know that.

Originally posted by Khalaf: I dislike to use pics of sisters but this girl looks exactly like my eritrean friend....... You have a girlfriend? How interesting.

Originally posted by General Duke: Somalis want continues wars and do not know the price they are paying... That's not true. It's the TFG whose makeup includes warlords, thugs, corrupt politicians, traitors and collaborators who want continuous wars. The people don't want wars. Thanks to the ICU, a long war that hurt many Somalis has come to an end. And then, the traitorous TFG collaborated with the US and Ethiopia to bring back wars.

Originally posted by JUSTICE: I haven't read any of his books, but I would be happy to grap one of his books to see what the fuss is all about. Actually this thread made me think about buying his books. If you can stomach Nuruddin's tales of bestiality and other forms of abominable sex, then more power to you.

Well, I wouldn't want to be like any of those leaders, even Gandhi. Yeah, Gandhi wasn't the angelic you thought he was; he had a dark side. Gandhi had no love for Africans. To him, Africans were no better than the "Untouchables" of India. Forced to share a cell with black people, he wrote: "Many of the native prisoners are only one degree removed from the animal and often created rows and fought among themselves."

Originally posted by Khayr: According to the Mufasirun like Imam Baydawi, Qurtabi and Qushari, the workd Kamal in the ayat is in reference to the completion of the Risalah/Message of the Rasul (sallahu caliyhe wasilm) Of those three, I am only familiar with imam Abu Abdullah Al-Qurtubi, if he's the one you meant to be "Qurtabi." However, I do not have his tafsir of the Qur'an, therefore, I do not know if what you have claimed about his (and the others) tafsir of the word "Kamal" is true. Until you provide a link or two substantiating your claim, I will treat this part of your comment a claim that needs proof. Also, provide the full names of Imam Baydawi and Qushari. Originally posted by Khayr: and infact when the Hadrat Omar heard this he started weeping out of sorrow because he knew that the Rasul (sallahu caliyhe wasilm's) time with the Sahaba would soon come to an end. His reaction wasn't that Islam is Perfect or that because they are Muslim, that salvation is guaranteed for them. Certainely, Hadrat Umar was not of that frame of mind. Is what you have written your personal analysis of Hadrat Omar's reaction to the ayat (His reaction wasn't that Islam is Perfect), or is it what Muslims at the time have documented? Did Hadrat Omar clarify to Muslims at the time that he was reacting for the specific reason (His reaction wasn't that Islam is Perfect) you claimed? Originally posted by Khayr: So the question really is- Do we misinterpret the Deen and Sentimentalize it? The overwhelming majority of Muslims, about 90%, who are Sunnis, believe Islam is a perfect religion. They also believe the Qur'an is a miracle, perfect, unalterable, incorruptible and immutable, because it's protected by Allah. The tafsir or interpretation of the Qur'an by great Muslim scholars, jurists, theologians and ulemas such as imam Maliki, imam Shafi'i, imam Hanbali, imam Hanafi, ibn Ali al-Zeylai, ibn Taymiyyah, ibn Qayyim, ibn Kathir, ibn Baz, ibn Abdillaah As-Sumaalee and many others througout the Islamic history support what Muslims believe about Islam being a perfect religion. The remaining 10% of Muslims, of which 9.5% are Shia, and 0.5% compromise of micro/nano sects and cults (such as the Qur'an alones), have a different interpretation of the Deen. For example, the Shia believe the Qur'an has been tampered with and is imperfect. The Qur'an alones also believe the Qur'an has been tampered with and a Coptic messenger named Richard Khalifa was sent to them in order to enlighten them and purify the Qur'an by erasing two ayats from it. The Ismailis, the Bahais, the Yazidis, the Druzes and others also have different beliefs and interpretations. So, yes, those 10% of Muslims misinterpreted and sentimentalized the Deen. Originally posted by Khayr: Why is it necessary for some to claim that Islam is Perfect or whatever their religion or madhab might be? It's not about claiming; it's about believing. Believing Islam is a perfect religion is central to the beliefs of 90% of Muslims. Originally posted by Khayr: Allah is Perfection all else not being Him, is not Perfect. The very fact that Islam can be defined is a testament to its limitation because at the end of the day, it is not Allah but a WAY to Allah. The Qur'an is Allah's Words; Allah's Words cannot be imperfect. Your claim that Islam is Allah is incorrect; Islam is Allah's message and guidance to mankind. The 90% of Muslims I have mentioned never claim(ed) Islam is Allah; they say and believe Islam is Allah's message and guidance to mankind. In case if you don't understand Islam; saying Islam is Allah isn't the same as saying Islam is Allah's message and guidance to mankind. Originally posted by Khayr: The Quran are the Words of Allah but it does not encompass ALLAH and ALL knowledge of ALLAH. It contains a particular message that is enough for Mankind until the Qiymah. A message that if followed, we can attain Salvation. Is "does not encompass" your philosophical/personal viewpoint, or is it what great Muslim scholars, jurists, theologians or ulemas teach or taught? If the later, quote one or two of them.

Isn't Mogadishu safe?

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: and when do u think it will end ???? Didn't it end when the ICU ruled? It was restarted by the US, Ethiopia and Somali collaborators. But insha'Allah, it will end again within years, after the occupiers and collaborators are kicked out of Somalia.

This was a good interview. I especially liked Cige's clear accent, which reminds me of a friend of mine's. Ceerigabo sounds interesting and tempting to settle there. Hmmm. BTW, the brief music after Cige's and Qamar's interviews, is it by Cumar Dhuule?

Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: In all reality most of the Arab countries from Emirate, Yemen,Al sacudiya, Masar to Jordan where probably secretly happy at the demise of the Islamic Courts.For, they have like minded groups fighting them in their own countries. If they have like minded groups fighting them in their own countries, why expect them to help the ICU? As I have already outlined, people should expect the ICU to get help from like minded movements or organizations, not secular governments. The TFG is like minded to those secular governments, therefore, it's natural like minded governments would help it.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: 16 Years of fighting and anarchy ,,,, and now another term of explosions and suicide bombers ,,,,,,,,, then what is next ??? Don't be so negative. You complain about 16 years; haven't you heard of 100 years of fighting and anarchy by other people? Every fighting or anarchy has an end, and Somalia's wouldn't be the exception.

Originally posted by Caamir: I never thought of systematic exploisions and suicides would occur in Somalia. Many never thought of systematic exploisions and suicides occuring in Iraq and Afghanistan. The common denominator of Somalia, Iraq and Afghanistan is; invasion, occupation and collaborators.

Originally posted by Shucayb: If he dies, another puppet will simply take over, perhaps Geedi and I heard Geedi is even better butt kisser than Yey. Good point. The top traitor is just one of many, as there are many deputies, lieutenants or junior traitors who would gladly replace him. What needs to be dismantled is the system.

Originally posted by Ameen: Allah has decreed that good men and for good women and good women are for good men so in the end, when it’s all said and done, you'll only get a person who resembles you in your actions. True. Well said.

Originally posted by Juje: The Sunday Times The Sunday Times is a Sunday broadsheet newspaper distributed in the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland, published by Times Newspapers Ltd, a subsidiary of News International which is in turn owned by News Corporation. Times Newspapers also owns The Times, but the two papers were founded independently and only came under common ownership in 1966. Rupert Murdoch's News International acquired the papers in 1981. There you go!

Originally posted by Azmaya: i think we women can tell the difference between a player and a good guy. You mean after experimenting with many men, you can tell the player from the good?