Xinn, still playing the man and not the ball? I am not passionate about Azania. I couldn't care less if the bald Professor is arrested tonight. I am passionate about peace returning to somalia and the end of the terrorists. And I think I will get that. If I were passionate about Azania, I wouldn't hide my feelings. I still believe it could be improved by making it broad-based and making sure it is a project all people embrace. I know you are impervious to logic and allergic to sedate debate, but then I think we should confront you and expose the bankrputcy of some of some of the propaganda you were selling here under your name and the pseudonym Dr. Weinstein. Gandhi said he is not a secessionist, he also said he fully reconginzes the TFG, and that he is readily to cooperate with them. His condition may turn out to be a reciprocal recognition of him. But why is that wrong? Is that not what Faroole is also asking for and is granted? Che, I still believe me and Xinn could have worked out this matter if it were upto us. I am fickle, but I am also a democrat. I would accepted his position and have asked him to go walk and show me how it works. If it works, good for all. if he fails, then he will have to accept my trail. That is what is missing in Somalia: Compromise! Laakin puntland cyber team iskuma ficnin. Gheele.T mooye, Putland Eegataan nahaye

Che, fully agree. We are all raped and continue to be raped. But we have different perspective and priorities on how to end this. I think we should swallow some pride and deal with Alshabab. We have shown we are incapable of doing that as Somalis. Simple thing: if Abu-mansoor simply rebrands his thugs as 'reer-hebel' militia, the somali national army can't fight them. So, let someone else finish them and then we start the ardouos task of rebuilding the nation. I think this is the short cut. For you, we should fight the foreigners first and then get back to fighting each other later. I think this will extend our misery. Dear Sharmarke - it is natural to suspect I hate Alshabab because of Azania. I don't want to dispel that usual kneejerk response. Let me be a clanist, I don't mind. But let Alshabab go out of the picture. And in due time, this episode will close and we will discover who is who.

Dubad, I was in Mogadishu yesterday. Swam in the beach with some Ugandans and I asked a Somali working there about this. His answer: "Waa waxna ha dhisan, waxna dhisanmayno". If Sharif is worried about two federal stated by a rival clan, why can't he create three (benadir, goboladda dhexe, and whereever he so wishes)? What matters is that people get peace and governance? I can understand if other clans in the Jubbas and Gedo reject Azania for fear of domination, I can't understand that of Sharif? And I am sure he is not opposing out of principle and hatred of foreign intervention. Che, For someone whose success indicator is the end of alshabab, I am confident that will happen. Not because of Kenya, but because somali people hate this group and their are standing in their last legs. Whatever follows that is fine for me. And I am sure people will not miss Alshabab whoever takes over after them.

I don't know where he is. But I just watched and he catagorically dismissed some of the propaganda Xinn was peddling here, sometimes as Xinn, sometimes as Dr. Weinstien (I am convinced this is Xinn's pen name). Che, awrkaa Kenya lagu kacsanayaa adeer, soon Alshabab will be history. Bad news for you, friend. I know you are closet Abu-Che.

Professor Azania spoke to Somali Channel on many issues. Key points he said: 1) Azania is part and parcel of the TFG, we adhere to its charter, but Sheikh Sharif if opposed to our agenda for reasons we do not know and therefore must stop the sinister propaganda he waged against Azania. 2) we welcome the visit of the TFG defense Minister and we cooperate with him, but we have problem with Sheikh Sharif as an individual. We recongnize he is the President, but he has no power to exclude us from the TFG. 3) We are not a clan, we didn't follow 4.5, we are composed of all those who live in the Jubbas and Gedo and all are fairly represented, each district has representation. 4) We are not secessionists nor do we accept any foreigners dictating how the region should be run 5) The resources in the regions we control will serve the somali people, not foreigners

Qanyare, Indha-cadee, Abu-Mansoor, Faroole and others have tried their best, but no one beats Faysal Ali Waraabe in the business of foolish utterances, high-sounding punchlines, and rediculous rabble-rousing. This man is my favourite! [v] [/.v]

Mohamed Yusuf is original and special. Never got the recognition he deserved as a pioneer in Somali music. Like most of his songs, but Sida waaga iftiinka stands out! http://www.heesta.com/hees.php?id=2745 Sida waaga iftiima Ama waadi xareeda Waayeeleey quruxdaada Indhahaa igu wareera

This girl has done nothing wrong, nor are her views bad. In fact, for a girl of her age, she has repeatedly nuanced her accusations making sure she is not blaming everyone but a small group whose actions she doesn't like. Is she right or wrong? Depends on where you stand on this issue. Sure, she is not serious and it is clear she is just enjoying herself. She is also a kid. Instead of showing her boobs or buttockes by covering her face, she chose to pass a message, one that isn't bad at all. Credit goes to the faarax she is dating. He must be a good one to make her feel good about somali men. She could also be hitting at some girl he knows and is married to a foreigner. Whatever her motivation, she did pass as someone cool, funny and beautiful. Gabadha amaanka ugu dadaala. Of course, it will help if bluelicious or those who know her could pass this message of mine to her somehow, si ay u ogaato inaan u dagaalamay. :D

Intii aan wadankeena Waleecaaday dhamaan Maxaa deeha islaamaayeey Waykan ii odhan waydey? Adigay wada qaatoo Koley waad isidaayee Aan weegaarno cayaaree Iweeydaarso gacmaha http://www.heesta.com/hees.php?id=2745 Waa fariid gabadhani! Her attitude is right inaddition to the obvious - that she is pretty! Somalia, hadaad ag marto xabad u diyaargaroow. Tan waa in loo safro. :D

Whatever the result in the first leg in Djibouti, Ethiopia will soundly beat Somalia in Addis Ababa. The altitude is a huge advantage and I have watched accomplished teams like Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia and Nigeria struggling to cope. Addis is about 2800m above sea level and the third highest city (in altitude) after La Paz and Quito, I heard. Somalia will have no chance in Addis. If they go and acclamatize for a week or so, they may just manage to keep the scoreline low. Ethiopia doesn't lose many games at home, by the way. It is when they are denied the altitude advantage that they get 6 or 7 goals in their net. Last time, Morocco beat them 5-0, the joke goes Meles was told about this and he asked only one question: "Was the match played the whole day, or was it only 90 minutes?" In addition, this current Ethiopian team actually drew 2-2 a month or so ago with Nigeria in Addis and beat Madagascar 4-2. They are not good but Addis is a difficult place to play. By way of intelligence, tell our guys to watch a guy with a muslim name at the front (Saed) closely. He is their main scorer. P.s. last time Somalia beat Ethiopia in Tanzania, a comedian by the name Dereje composed a hit song: ...or let us ask FIFA To amend its rule And allow Ethiopia To play 4-5-6 formation With fifteen players Otherwise as you can see We can't match even Somalia Playing eleven to eleven! ...or let us field our runners Kennenisa on the right Haile on the left If the problem is speed!

Duke, and Yey's book will be "On Top of Abyssinian Tank: fighting tyranny with treason".

:D Waryaa Rayaale's book is not what you said. It is what General Duke said. "Mugging the mugged: Rayaale from NSS to President of SL" something like that. Taas ayaa uga eg.

It is true. It happened a week ago. This was a small team carrying supplies for the liberation fighters in one truck. The truck got stuck in mud and the commander made a bad decision. Instead of leaving it, he went to a nearby town and offered big money for help. That triggered suspicion and he was caught. Many escaped but some were captured by Ahlu-Sunna. It was known all of Somalia adminstrations are servants of Ethiopia and no one is angry with them. It was a bit of bad luck and poor planning. Hopefully lessons are learnt. It is a setback, but then that is a fact of life in this business. Allez JWXO!

NGONGE;756618 wrote: Sharif Xasan: In the Thick Of it; Xisaabta ha la igu daro Ghandi: To Conjure Up A State; as, an, Yaa? :D I like these two.

[P.S. War buuganaa ka fiican ka Cabdullahi Yusuf’e ha la iibsado. :D

NG, you are mocking him but Ildab is talented. No doubt!

This is a great poem. hilarious. Xisbigeena aadka ah Aasaasidiisi ayidaada sacabka leh Ragii ku aqbalaan ahay ...Afaddayda xaawana Orientaion'kaa jecel ...Alihiisa weeye, siduu odaygu leeyahay kama iman xagiisee Iimaanka beeliyo Afiminshaarka baasiyo Isticmaarka weeyaan :D thanks jacayl for sharing this.

Dear Reader, this book of 347 pages is worth reading. You can get the book from Al-Amazon.com, but below is a foreword by Abtigiis and Tolka. Foreword by Abtigiis & Tolka “Killing for Heaven” is a tale of extraordinary valor and unyielding commitment for the cause of ending immorality and vapid materialism in Somali society. Appalled by the proliferation of individual rights, growing influence of women in family matters, and abundance of distracting entertainment gadgets such as dishes and DVDs, Sheikh Hassan Abdulli Hirsi, a.k.a, Hassan Turki, takes on the evil men and women of his country in a jihad that would define the sanity or insanity of Somalia for over two decades. He knew the risks, the rough roads ahead, and the ramifications of his selfless struggle, but believed it was what God required of him. It casts the Jihad of long seasons. It encapsulates the vivid vicissitudes of enchanting wars...boring peace...pain…betrayal...sadness…opportunities…risks…setbacks…triumphs…breakthroughs…and failures. Set in the lush green fields of Kudha and Kambooni, this deeply moving book is the chronicle of a devout sheikh’s struggle to impose Islamic order and purity over secular filth and de-humanizing modernism. The story starts when a saintly virgin girl visited Sheikh Hassan just before the Isha prayers in the month of Shacbaan in 1982. It was a dream, but one he vividly remembers to this date. In the morning, the Sheikh bathed before performing the routine morning prayers for he saw semen on his phallus. But it was an encounter that left an indelible conviction on the part of the sheikh of his crucial, near-ethereal role as the earthly agent and fulfiller of God's command. In one episode, the sheikh narrates the pain of betrayal by those who chose the path of God for personal gains and later embraced the poisoned chalice of the infidels. He castigates the two-faced Sheikh’s who went to fetch water but never came back, like the cheats who while chewing Qat with you, borrow your money and escape by pretending they are only going to the washroom. That chapter was the low of his fulfilling righteous life of Godly struggle, with the Shamo Hotel bombing the high of it. Confronting a rain of bombs and bullets from the sky, without cloud cover or timeouts offered by thunder, the Sheikh tells his delights in facing adversity, saying the “assured paradise of those who strap themselves with faith have the power of expelling fear from the heart of the believer”. Reflecting on his age-old fight against secular zealots, Sheikh Hassan points the reader to the insincerity of those who decry religious warriors in Somalia. “The same war and fire which invites deep obloquy for a man who fought for the cause of God, triggers jingle bells for a man who fought for the cause of Ethiopia.” Sheikh Hassan says, in a barely disguised rebuke to those who hail Abdullahi Yusuf’s life of war as a life of struggle and stamina. Unable to marshal a shared position on the search for resting place for his Azania tribe, the Sheikh soon found spirituality as a more fulfilling camouflage to advance a lifelong ethical ambition of crippling societal excesses and foreign interventions. It is an epic story that lampoons the parochial Puntland perspective that one’s foreign guests are more sacred and acceptable than the others; even against the fact that the one deemed acceptable is indeed of a different faith unlike the sheikh’s Middle Eastern helpers who espouse the tawxiid. The book also brings out the witty side of this man of God. That is evident in the chapter where he equates Abduallhi Yusuf’s famous “I fired the first bullet and I will pacify Somalia with the last bullet” to the utterances of a scorned village woman, who copes with the bitterness by hurling insults at God and man in the village’s communal well. Here is an ordinary believer whose efforts heavenwards elicit many questions in all of us, whether religious, cultural or tribal, but whose gallantry and grandeur cannot be questioned.

Gabay haw yidhaadoo ku dhaca, Garoowe hagaageeda Oo hammug yidhaa oo Puntland, daartii wada heensha Oo halaha kii raaci jiray, kaga hayaay siiya Oo kii hudheellada lahaa, ka handaraafsiiya Oo kii hargaha iibsan jiray, haaro ugu yeela Oo kii hablaha dooni jiray, horay usii tuura Oo hilibka kii qaadi jiray, kaga habaaseeya Oo dhariga kii heemin jiray, heenka kaga daadsha Oo Xinn'kii halhays yada xumaa, habaq ka sii siiya Haabhaaban maayee anuu, hilinka ii yaalee Hadduu aar hal dilo oo dhurwaa, hilib usoo doonto Hungurina ka geyn waa kalyana, kuma hagaajaane Huuhdooda unbaan maqliye lay, hor iman maayo :D please refer to the post above about how what induces laughter here in SOL forum can invite a bullet in Xiin's refractory head if he takes this discourse for real into the Jubbas.

Yesterday, as I took the knife and stood next to a goat to be sacrificed for senseless religious fetish, the goat bleated repeatedly and later started vomiting. I was sad, and wondered if this cruelty against an innocent animal could be forgiven. But then it spoke with clear voice and I heard what she said with amusement. “It is not your knife, it is Xaaj Xundjuf’s thread about Ceerigabo that provoked this disgust”, she said. "Did you see him calling one clan's militia an army and another clan's militia a gang?", her last words before she died to give pleasure to human beings. Xaaji, this drivel smells like the callous fart of a sleeping person, which doesn't inconvinience the owner but sends the awake shying away and out of sorts. Ma qajilo Silaanyo ceebna waa nimaan ka qiiroone Intuu dawladdii qoys ka dhigay keligi qoondaystay Uu qadiyey soomaaliyoo wada qamuunyaysan Qaynuun darrada uu ku kaco qarad markuu yeesho In qabyaaladdii laga tagaa lagu qadhaabtaaye Intuu qaraf ku gubo meel markay qaraxdo baaruuddu Yuu qoomamoodaa dabkuu qiiqiyee shidaye Dadku waa iswada qoomi jirey taniyo Qaabiile Qaartiyo dagaalkii warmuhu qiimi ma lahayne Isagaa qasuumo u wadaye yaa isu qalabeeyey?

I didnot want to extend to another thread the parameters of this blameworthy debate about the innate identity of a valuable SOL member. However, asked legitimate questions about my post, I owe Mr. Shilling some explanation. But first thing first. He said he doesn't think I am sane. My wife thinks I am sane, My mom who called me today for the Eid thinks I am sane, my employers think I am sane and therefore pay me salary not disability allowance. Infact, Ngonge thinks I am sane. Therefore, I must be sane. Second, many people think Kant was crazy, but for sure we know he waisn't. (1) no leg or no enough regions: I thought Azania consists of Gedo, Middle Jubba and Lower Jubba and is therefore more than 2 regions. I also thought the TFG was first conceived in foriegn land and then transported to Somalia. Azania was following the same formula. But in any case, who says you can't break with Somali precedent? what if they follow the PLO way and form a state in absentia? Xinn mustbe consistent on this, is he objecting to any government formed outside, or is he attaching other conditions? I thought his view was that anything formed outside is unacceptable. In which case my question would still be valid: why would he oppose a newer addition to the club of foreign-formed states? (2) Xinn's belief or assumptions about what Kenyan motive is or not is irrelevant. Against his and your beliefs, there are countles other counter-assumptions and conspiracy theories, so I don't know what you are saying there. The fact Xinn believes Kenyan motives are worse than Ugandan (Amisom) motives may shape his opinion, but I can disagree. He is entitled to his opinions and conjectures. But I was asking why he would trust his opinions over what seems the overwhelming judgment of the people on the ground, and crucially that of the TFG? (3) Central Vs Federalism and Mahiga: I see your agument. I was debating Xinn who seems to see the Mahiga's agenda as part of Sharifites project. While i have my opinion about central Vs federalism ( which is likely not in sync with yours), I think that is a different discussion. Xinnfanin cannot support Mahiga when he also thinks the roadmap is about taking sea miles from Somalia. More importantly, Xinn cannot embrace Mahiga and Sharif at the same time if the two have different opinions about the roadmap. We can appreciate thoughtful hypocracy, not this blatant chicanery. (4) supporting TFG, disagreeing with the process that sired it and with its core policies: You sound as if we are talking about Xinn disagreeing with the TFG's taxation or agricultural polciy! Or immigration circular! No, a citizen can disagree with his party's policies, but not with the fundamental policy elements and yet identify himself with that party. Clearly, the TFG is little more than a party in Somalia's politics today. So, if Xinn disagress with literally every core decision or action they take, it is hard to see why he should qualify as a supporter. Again, my opinion but I can see others easily diasagreeing with my catagorical assertion.

Quite noticeable in Xinfannin’s legalistic political dialect in disagreeing with what the people of Jubba think is in their best interest is a creeping trait of overweening conduct which comes with exaggerated sense of cleverness against a clear proof of his tempering intellect that is at display constantly in this forum. Both his flagrant disregard of home opinion and his abusive response when confronted with his contradictions smack of a Teutonic giant in theoretical Somalinimo but one whose fear of rival-clan hegemony makes him a cringing midget with no national standpoint to defend.His declaration that I should learn from him, when he is basically imbibing the sound homilies I hear in every Friday prayer and not any actionable policy recommendation, suggests a convoluted sense of own intellect by a man who lacks it, indeed who needs it so bad. What is the point of talking about the legality or otherwise of one foreign force or the other, in a political edifice which is itself made by and maintained by foreigners. Because principles and ordinary national state dignity do not apply in Somalia’s case, what should define the soundness of any intervention should only be the goodness or badness of the expected outcome of such interventions. The punch-line is that all the miasmic legalistic talk about what members of Parliament (itself not trusted nor elected by Somali people) endorsed or not endorsed is irrelevant. Do these so-called MPs also represent the wishes of the Somali people when they split into two and table and counter-table motion-hunguri on a daily basis? If we take a cue from Mrs Malaprop in the “The Rivals” by Richard Brinsley Sheridan , Xinnfanin actually could be read as Xiin (sound) and Finiin (shrapnel), signifying a by-product of a blast and the frightening sound that accompanies it. He may wish macabre sound and Shrapnel for the Jubbas, something he doesn't want for Puntland. Today, all his illogical Azania-bashing antics are vain props which at worse invite Zack’s sharp rebuke or a hoarse laughter of contempt. Here in SOL forum we laugh at Xinnfanin’s attempted grandeur simply because he exercises no real power to stop the Azanians from getting their wish. With real power in his hands or his alter ego Sheikh Sharif’s palms, such laughter will, tomorrow, invite a bullet in somebody’s formidable skull. Here is a country battling merciless pseudo-religious goons, a people living in hell. And instead of welcoming the demise of the arch-enemy, Xinnfanin wades into perfectionist controversy which is not worth Shariff’s cheap koofiyad. Xinnfanin must embrace realism and jettison fantasy. This fight is between everyone else and Alshabab. He should pick his side. He cannot love the liver and the white meat at the same time, as Somalis are wont to say.

Dear Mr. Somalia, If we commend Yusuf for refusing to accept Siyad Barre’s autocracy, we have to hold him accountable for what become of the SSDF too. I have the privilege of sitting with some of the top brass of the SSDF in Zambia, who tearfully told me how the old one would make a decision unilaterally and would not budge or accept anybody’s counsel one he makes up his mind. That dictatorial leadership style killed SSDF. If we also extol him for bravery for rising up against Military dictatorship at a time Siyaad looked eminent and untouchable, we should exorcise him for lack of political leadership and vision to finish the job he started. General Aideed was allegedly brave, but by leading a horde of untrained, angry clansmen into the capital, he allowed mayhem and rape to thrive. A bravery without responsibility is hooliganism, and you can watch the Sopranos and Prison Break if you want that brand of gallantry. I may agree with some of the points you mentioned about the man’s efforts, but efforts are not what count. It is achievements and the record shows he failed miserably. No one is paid for effort, and therefore Yey will be judged by what he left behind not what intended to do, assuming he had good intentions.

Publius Cornelius Tacitus, a distinguished Roman historian, warns that it is hard to analyze tyrants and that the temptation is often to either go for total adulation or total vilification. Faced with this dilemma, writers often choose vilification, he said, because criticism looks more objective while adulation is often taken as flattery. In looking back at the political life of Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, I have tried not commit the folly of mistaking vilification for objectivity. But I couldn't see any positive politicial contributions of the colonel that can even out the harsh judgement of history on him for all the wrongs he did. Perhaps I overlooked his role in the 1977 war where he fought as a dutiful soldier, deserving no laurels but nonethless doing his part. Perhaps I could have commended him for his fight against islamic tyrants long before we woke up to the depth of their barbarism. Perhaps we can commend the old man for planting order and governance in Puntland, albeit through characterstic orgy of bloodshed. But those deeds will not define his legacy. It is the role he played in destroying the nation and his warlordism that he will be remembered for. Minus his stooge politics, his incurable dictatorial mindset, I liked the old man as a person. Physically, he looks like my father in many ways, is a cultured person, well-mannered father and husband, and a clean politician who honours his word according to those who dealt with him. He is also a person who is not given to rapaciously looting money. They say he is generous too. He is a man I hate to hate, but I have to if I have to judge Somali politicians fairly. What he wasn't at all was the political quack called General Aideed whose alleged bravery was without responsibility and therefore makes him a hooligan. I have to say I have expected the line of defense of his sympathizers, who by the straighforward logic of somali politics can also be read as his kins. It will not be a defense based on countering the factual and robust allegations against him. It will be a defense based on the presumed equal culpability of others. Unfortunately, such a defense will only help as far as freeing Yey from solitary confinement in the hall of ignominty of Somali politicians. It will not help him in leaving behind a legacy that his progeny can be proud of.

We are a strange race, a kinship nation. We glamourize ignorance, perfume the ugly political behind of vegetating warlords, and beatify the devil with all its refulgent fires and horns. All because kinship is thicker than reason and objectivity. No one should waste one second of his precious time in reading stu.p.i.d rationalisations of four decades of the politics of puppetry and treason Yey swam in. It may be fun to listen to the instructions he received from Mengistu, how he fought with his SSDF colleagues (nearly alienting everyone else with dogmatic intransigence), how he undermined Abdiqasim's popular TNG, the people he infamously said he will send to the seas. Knowing the mindset of a dictator and a stooge, he will claim he has done it for the sake of the nation and out of patriotism. You will not miss the element of self-indispensibility and self-importance that is the hallmark of every foolish dictator who came to this earth. A man of modest education, truculent camel-herder but with mountains of ambition and ego, Yey tried to do everything under the sun to become the second 'father' of the people of Somalia, after Jalle Siyaad. Including firing the first bullet that started the demise of the nation. We now see the spinners frantically at work already. "Brutally honest" is meant to cover for "shollowness in diplomatic demenour" and "frank" is not "naive". Abduallhi Yusuf started war in Somalia, started war in Puntland, started war in Mogadishu and only inexorable age tamed his insatiable appetite for human blood and hunger for power. As his book will undountedbly bring out his is a tale of wars narrated by a war-mongerer. Expect him to put every blame for what went wrong onto others, including the 'ungrateful' somali people who couldn't appreciate his 'Golgotha' (the place of skulls) vision for Somalia. Yet, his book may in some ways be interesting, while not educating, just like the autobiography of Joseph Kone , or Colombia's drug lord Pablo Escobar. Every killer often has a humane or softer side that is worth knowing about. Let us see what Yey gives us beyond tales of treachery and war fought on behalf of Somalia's historical enemies. I heard he is a good father and husband and that may come out as well. History sometimes rehabilitates historical figures with time, but for that to happen things those men left behind must get worse. Siyaad Barre's warts and foibles are already largely forgiven by many Somalis much as the same way Che Guvera is forgiven for the many wives he jilted. The same way Libya will forgive Gaddafi's excess and eccentricities when things get worse as they will. Somalia got worse after Siyad and that allowed him to be rehabilitated with some grace. Yey left Somalia in the worst quaqmire it could ever be and it is hard to see if even history could absolve his dark little life, lived firing death and conspiring with Somalia's enemies.