I will settle for rudy. NG-I said we shall send her to a training. Not I will start.

Ducaysane; Who cares? If you are confused with someone, you clearly look like him.

Ngonge, what is your take on the issue. Quite like you to duck hot issues.

Ngonge Don't judge her by her appearance. Let us see horta bal siday tahay. If your hunch is validated, waxaan u diraynaa tababar culus.

Originally posted by -Serenity-: If the dismissive, hypocritical and intolerant views above are anything to go by… Somalia will never be society that has any semblance of justice. I hate when people repeat words they hardly understand over and over. Some people, in their fervent rush to crown themselves 'civilized intellectuals' end up demagougues. Nin Christian noqday baa la dilay miyaa hadda keentay discussion about tolerance. As a matter of fact, I don't want evagelical missionary works and the christianization of hungry people with no choice, should be tolerated at all. So, serenity hadii siddii Ayaan laguu hayo,good luck.

Meesha ninna ma leh. It is what it is because of all of Sol'ers. Having said that, LSK is right to uphold some moral standards in the site. For a Somali, I indeed, find him very tolerant and accomadating. Imagine this site owned by Duke, Emperor or even Ngonge. After a week, like that Muqaaxi of Cabdiwaaxid in Sayladda Xoolaha, who cooks bariis aan la cuni karin, and comes back to check on how much of it has moved every two hours, only to find it no one actually ordered anything. Then, he calls ka yar ee distida u haya, and tells him to bring haaf-bariis ah. That way, he finishes nearly all of the rice and in the evening he comes with a pen and an exercise book asking the boy to get ready for Xisaabtii maanta! A fed-up boy told him, "Xissaab maxaya, Muqaaxida adi unbaa wax ka cunee. It is not open for the public." God forbid, but Particularily with NGONGE, all the threads would have read stuff and nonsense, and he would have remained the sole editor-in-chief, owner and commentator of the whole forum.

Nevertheless, an image has been imprinted on my mind; and from now on I will not be enaging in a debate with an obese traitor.

Bashir has the blood of his grandfather. He carries a family tradition of courage and survival. He will survive. It is gloomy, but I know he will. Ilaahay baan u soo baryaynaa.

So Duke 'ka aan isku xiiqnay waa ninkaa feedhaha weyn! He is perhaps 10 times me! Oo kaalay meesha ma dad ilaahay uun ka weynyahay in terms of age, oo intaa la'eg ayaa soo fadhfadhiya? I mean in SOL? If that is true, waan ceeboobay with my silly stories. Ileen ciroolayaal baa meeshanka buuxa. I urge LS and the rest of the admin inay xaafado noo kala sameeyaan oo Waayeelka meel gaar ah loo sameeyo. BTW, is he related to Xaaran-ku-naax?

Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood: Xariif! Gaaraa-bidhaantiyo shimbirahaa loo dhiibaa dheh xageena! waa fuley tukuhuye kuma fiicna dirashee adigaa Fariidoo faallada ku dheeroo inta foora laylkii waligaa ha fariisanne fiidmeerta duushaay farriintayda qaadoo ha fur-furin adoon arag farxadii jacaylkeen ... Ama Adaa geesiyoo baqinee galaydhyohow, adaa dhambaalkayga qaadoo gaarsii warkaygoo ... LX; Those are indeed the most widely used songs in love missives. Alaa muxuu diin..., Were it not from the wise Haneefah, that analogy to the delivery boy would have lit a fire aan ciddina bakhtiiyeen. But certainly, I wrote lots of love letters for people, and for my self. My best recollection about those exchanges is when a young sister of a girl aan ku jiir-jiireeynayey suddenly called me from the street and handed me a fantastic letter. I duly responded. Wixii ku qornaa wax la sheegi karo ma'aheyn. The sad thing was only after two days when I crossed the same road iyadoo lug iyo faras la igu raadinayo ayaan arkay! And when the young sister saw me she jumped in delight! "walaal, ilaahay baa ikaa tusay. Hebel baad isku magac tihiinoo aan ku mooday. Warqadii iska soo celi adigu maadan laheyne!" Imagine the heart break. Warqadana jeebkaan ku watoo, I was humbling few friends with it as the girl was highly sought after. I returned it. Red Sea- humbled by your lavish praise saaxiib. Emperor- let us hope the next will bring smiles to your face. Salaan sare. Ngonge For once, and only once, I refused to fall in your trap. Haneefah; Indeed, my storytelling is severly constrained as the limits social decorum and the hyper-sensitive [and at times pretentiously pious] crowd, here, imposes here are great. Romance'ga gaaladoo kale, for one minute, I have no taste to indulge in. Indeed, it is to be despised. Laakiin, benign stories of the first nights of brides and grooms wouldn't have hurted. That is not to say they are in the pipeline. Just that it is a whole area oo 'soona miinaati' ah oon lagali karin, but has a lot to offer in terms of education and entertainment.

I knew someone must have covered this topic. I apogise for the redundency. heleleleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (Lool inaga daaya saaxibayaal. let us use something we own) Al Haasimii, waxaan ka helay kuwan. kaadidaa iga dhamaatay qosol! KIISH BUUR DIINNAARI XAARAAN KU NAAX XABAAL MARI WAA BAAS ABUUR HAAMAAN DABA GEED ISMA LURE JINNI BOQOR SHIDDO DUULANE DUULLAAN JECEL KALIGII DUUL COL U JOOG COL LA KULAN COLAAD BUUBAA GALEYR KIISH BUUR KIIMIKO ILKO XANAF KADARE If I may add few in my areas KOR-U-DHUUS KABBAA-I-QABATAY JINI-MAANUU ISMAQIIQ YAA II BIXI I presume Ngonge's must be something Al-fulaan!

Thanks Ibti. beleive it or not, Dr. cabdullahi Disti is a close friend of mine. Could it be him you are talking about; or another Disti? They are plenty. Waryaa Ngonge, kuwaas ii soo uruuri dee. I mean kuwa casriga ah. Mida kale, when fire rages, dhuumashada iska daa. Anigu badow baan ahay laakiin adigu fulay baad tahay. Edit- looooooooool@sac-magaalo.

Stability at what cost? waa markaan kula qaato in stability uu keenay?[which is not true]. Stability kufsi lagu keeno ayaad raali katahay soo ma aha? Anaa waalane, qof Mohamed Dheere (kuwii qaranku ka dhismi waayey) samaan ka sheegaya oo haddana leh qaran baan dhisayaa; xaguu ka socdaa ama uu u socda????????????????????????? Saaxiib, NN, I don't hear you. Shuush baa ku jira Radio'ga, Wareeg!Wareeg!fadlan Wareeg! Afar-iyo-afartanka u wareeg!!Hallo! Hallo!Ma ima qashaa??

Originally posted by siphoningdilemma: Hi and welcome aaaa...Judging from the over abundant unsuited men out there its safe to say that I will remain single. The dilemma is what a girl to do who doesn’t want to get married however is ready to have kids in a permissible according to Islamic law way? Please advise... thanks MMA Don't misquote the sister. She said she doesn't want to get married; but not she doesn't want farsamo. Infact, judging by the reference to the abundence of men out there, one will be left with the impression, in kolba la cosobsadaa la rabaa! So, MMA-la noqo bakeeriga xun eed is horwado ciddi ma rabtee.

^I like Huffan and Daruuuro~~

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: 5, Maxamed dheere must be praised for what he did in Jowhar Which is asking 100 million Som.Sh. for each child born? And for overseeing the rape of a nine-month pregnant somali women (with seven children) by his militias; and commenting "naag waa loo sameeyay in la..."?? Duke- you talk of moral? ma adaa dad moraal kala hadli? wow!! A man who can cheer the chewing of Somalia's entrails by a foreign enemy just because his uncle is this and that!! and just because the useless reer-hebel next door are punsihed!!

Che I am coming from a land where the people you referred to are given the most reverence. I tell you this story and you will see the logic of me mentioning. Nin Shariif ah fought with one of the people in my areas. The Shariif lifted the man up and hit him on the ground. Atop, he kept him to the ground, while trying to free up his hands to deal blows to the man's skull. At that point, villages rushed to rescue ninka hoosta jiifa. To your surprise, the man under, pleaded with the rescue guys to leave the Shariif alone. " War ilmaadeerayaal, Shariifka daaya ha igu dhidhidee" he begged. he believed ajir inuu helayo. So, the logic is Ashraaf are not people anyone from my area will wish to offend.

VALENTINE LETTERS- Reeraha style When a man loves a woman Down deep in his soul She can bring such miseryyyy If she is playin’ him for a fool He is the last one to know Lovin’eyes can never seeeeeee… That is Percy Sledge, not Saxardiid. Saxardiid is not a man who is to be fooled by any women. Wuu isu soo jeedaa! He never heard of Percy but even if he does, he will only despise him. His favorite song is Bashir Ali Hussien’s: Jirjiroolo dumaroow idinka joogi waynoo Idinka jiifi wayne jihadeeden u cararraa? Jirjiroolo dumaroow raga waxaad ku jebisaan Adigaan ku jeceloo kalgacayl aan jirin baad Waligiin jilaysaan… So, when Duniyo, reer Xamar girl from xamarweryne sent him a reply to his previous letter, reading: Sharaf badanoow shaacirkaygoow iila shaandhee Jacaylkaa shoobloow Shameerkii sooguuroow shirkoow ii imaaw He didn’t understand all of it, but got the message right. Ku jantay bay tidhi soo ma aha, he quizzed and dictated to me what to write. ‘Qor’ he said, as I put pen to paper: (Abdi Tahliil) baabullaha libaaxaan barqankii waraystaa buuraha shabeeelkaan ila baadh i dhaahdaa ….bakaylaha sidiisaan bur caleenle seexdaa ….Gaaraa-bidhaankaan kugu baadi goobaa... When I took that letter back to her- I can go to their house by virtue of my friendship to her elder brother; Iikar- She didn’t make out a word out it, so she asked me to translate. I did. But when she got the second letter from him, with a heart and big spear that pierced through it- she was furious. It contained Abdi-Nuur Alaale’s: Jacayl lama moosi karo Mindiyo dhiigluu Sitaa Halbawlaha kaa marshaa... “Why is he trying to kill me? What have I done to him? I don’t want to meet him anymore, I am scared. What is the knife for?” were the questions she uttered in shock. I explained again. But the biggest laugh was reserved when I took back her ‘I am missing you dearly’ call to him, courtssey of Asha Abdow’s, ...Aaaaah! Markaad iga maqnaatidee Aaaaah, mugdigii meel xunaan maraayee He was tuning to veteran broadcaster Cabdi Xareed whose voice kept on cracking from the tiny Philipps Radio, as he kept on saying the ubiquitous “ Laanta Af-Somaaliga ee Iddaacadda Boqortooyadaa Sucuudiga waxay idiin soo gudbin…” followed by "Ilaaliyaha labada xarameyn ee shariifeeyka ah Boqor Fahad ibnu-Cabdulcasiis waxay xalay casho kuwada cuneen beerta Al-bustaani walaalkiisa Amiirka Midoowga Imaaraadaka carabta Sheekh Zaahid Bin-Salmaan Ala-nahyaan." I gave him the envelope. He jumped in fury. “So, she thinks she can intimidate me with going out with other boys in darkness! She must be joking. Huh! It is not my type”. He said, ‘Qor jawaabtayda’, Eleen doqoni qiiq kama kacdee Daamankay meermeerisaa… It is exciting to be a love-intermidiary in my tuulo!

Somali Nicknaming Call a spade a spade seems to be the logic behind Somali nicknaming. When it comes to dubbing people with adjectives and pronouns, Somali’s must take the lead in the world. Nowadays, the prevalence of this practice might be on the decline, but that doesn’t mean it is abandoned all together. In fact, in a lot of small towns and villages nicknaming is as rampant as it ever was. I, for one, can not tell why and when this culture of sort has started. It is reasonable to assume that it has lived and evolved with the Somalis in their entire existence. Somalis are oral and informative society which might explain why it has continued for so long. The inception and pervasiveness of the tradition probably has to do with the necessity of distinguishing between persons, as few names are very widely used and there was little dissimilarity in their occupations. As arbitrary as it appears from the surface, a closer examination reveals that Somali nicknaming, in general terms, follows a pattern. Here, I try to classify nicknames I encountered into different categories and to analyze why and how individuals assume labels in the form of epithets other than their names at birth. One class of nicknames has its roots in the physiological look, strength and/or disability of the individual. Abdi Dheere (Abdi the Tall), Yusuf Badhi (Yusf with Buttocks), Dahir Tuur (Dahir the henchback), Hassen Xoogweyne (Hassen the strong) and the like describe the physical appearance of the individual. Some nicknames go as far as depicting the details of the looks of parts of the individual and can be offensive and impolite. Ali Ilka-Cadaawo (Ali with the teeth of the enemy), Ilmi san-foosto (Ilmi with the barrel nose), Hussen Indho-riyo (Hussen with the eyes of a goat), and Deek Kaneeco ( Deek the mosquito) certainly would not be passed with a shrug in other societies. Even more embarrassing is the open use of words and phrases that describe the physical disability of the person. At a time when words like the blind, the handicapped, and the deaf are rightly discarded and replaced by visually impaired, people with disability and people with hearing disability respectively, Somalis cruelly make use of Langadhe (the lame), Dhagoole (the deaf), and Indhoole (the blind) for individuals with disability on a daily basis. While this can partially be explained by the limited vocabulary of the language with regard to physical disabilities, Somalis are resourceful and it should not have taken much for Somali linguists to find accurate substitutes. This is to say that the issue is not given due emphasis so far and it has not even been identified as a problem. In these cases, usually, the nicknames reflect the actual physical state of the individual. The second classification of nicknames is based on personal behavior, attitude, and social relationship. These types of nicknames allow one to form an opinion, rightly or wrongly, on someone solely based on the name given to the person by his/her peers. And although not in all instances, the nicknames usually quite often shed light on the behaviour and personality of the individual. You can not expect Mahad Nag-Nagle (the one who bounces here and there) to be a calm and shy person; nor can Mohamed Raadhyoow (Mohamed the Radio) be a silent man. Geedi Caga-dable (Geedi the heel-footed) and Abullahi Masaa’ib (Abdullahi the disaster) surely are not saints. Expect a question of help or brace yourself for Shaxaad (to be begged) if you encounter Hassan wadno-qabad (Hassen the seizer of the heart), Ahmed Ma-qureecan (Ahmed-I had no breakfast) and Nuur gaajo (Nuur the hungry). Adan Qoys (Adan the family) is meant to describe an intolerably narrow person with clannish mentality. However, in rare instances at least, certain nicknames completely fail to characterize the behaviour of the individuals that subscribe to it. A number of years ago, when I met Abdi Tala-xun (Abdi the bad/ill-adviser), I was astonished to have received a very sound advice on an issue we discussed. In another instance, I found a man named Qaylo (the shouter) as the calmest of all passengers on a bus trip to Dire dawa. So, the nicknames could at times be misleading. Sometimes, the legacy of childhood practices and labels could stick to a person and evolve as long as the individual is alive. A classic example of this can be provided. In 1990s, when a prominent Minster in Siyad Barre’s government died, the BBC Somali service read out condolences from friends and families, calling the deceased as Ahmed Mohammed Farah, a.k.a., Ina-lax- w-s (the son of the she-sheep F..ker). Obviously, this violates basic social etiquette and is abusive. Yet, the BBC went public with the name because few would have recognized the late Minster without the nickname. These days two prominent somali’s who are alive and kicking are referred to as Suleiman Gaal (the unbeliever) and Matukate (the one who never prays). While this descriptions could have been valid at a period, there is no reason to believe the gentlemen are still behaving in the same way as when the name was given to them. A friend of mine, who recently came back from a trip to Hargeisa, told me that he prayed side by side with Sulieman Gaal in a mosque. It is common to hear people being called by nicknames that seem irrelevant at present but could have made sense at earlier time. A classmate of mine was called Jamac Biyoole (the water-boy), while the fact was that he was not doing any water-related works. Nicknames are most deceiving when they fall into this category. On the positive side, while nicknames are widely used in Somali society irrespective of age, and sex, they are applied less so to women. Men view giving any offensive nicknames to women, or calling them by such a name even when it exists, as immoral. To a lesser degree, women make use of nicknames among themselves. If only the men could be sensitive among themselves and especially to the disabled as they are to women! To conclude, Somalis are not alone in assigning more explanatory names to one another. However, they are perhaps the only society which still uses openly inflammatory descriptions and phrases that can harm the feeling of individuals. In light of civilization of the Somalis and increasing realization of the right for privacy, it is reasonable to expect Somalis to be self-protective and to refuse to accept nicknames that they perceive as ostracizing, in the future. Even these days, the use of nicknames is largely confined to small towns, and older generations. Nicknames are the least of the troubles that befall on this nation, but it would be good to see civility is exercised and offensive ones are discarded in no time.

Xinn, saaka waan caafimaad qabaa ee bal ii waran!

Waryaa The Zack. Ceeb caleeyk! Don't dignify tribalists who cheer even Mohamed Dheere with a reply. What more proof do you want for blind clan loyalty?

Hagaag.

Indeed, two Oscars for the best actor and best picture both. Salaams.

No discussion on the morality of it. It is an opinion. For you, you know what is good. The practicality of it is more useful to discuss about. You may find the right guy without the skills. Tell me in all honesty, you will turn him down?

Aaliyah; Don't mind. Hadal la jilciyaa meesha ma yaal. Was just trying to pull your leg. Not literally, though. 'You would want someone who can cook"? No harm in your wish, as long as you don't make it mandatory. EDIT:- Ibtisam, your fears are understandable and well-founded.