good to see somali's being part of the political process.

The difference is, there are mechanism in place within secular governments that correct mistakes. A good secular system is one that can be improved by the will of the people , unlike rigid theocratic systems. A good example of this is the civil rights movement in America.

The sooner you move out the better, I moved out when I was 18 some ten years ago, never looked back since then. The sooner you learn to be self-reliant, the better.

Religion has its place in society, but it should never be mixed with politics and allowed to dictate public policy.

Tuujiye Gaal adaa ka xun oo munafiq takfiri ah. Watch your mouth son!

Saxiib. I'm promoting controlled vice, not out of control vice. Besides in the long term, our reliance on these vice industries will fade as better industries develop. But right now they are required to kick-start the economy. It's a natural step to nationhood.

Don't knock it till you try it. Alcohol has benefits when it's used in moderation. In the battle against cardiovascular disease, all types of alcohol -- beer, wine or liquor -- provide certain protective effects. For one, alcohol boosts levels of the beneficial HDL-cholesterol. Alcohol also decreases the stickiness of red blood cells, making them less likely to clot and result in a heart attack or stroke.

Che Is it not true that alcohol is served in heaven, how can something haram be in heaven? Crack is not the same thing. Juxa i've been drinking for the past 10 years, and i can guarantee you I've never vomited let alone unable to control my bowels. That being said, you're right, majority of somali's can't handle it well. Wallahi wax ka fulxume majiro skinny who can't handle their drink and they always start fights in bars too. wallahi waa ceeb. Somali's need to learn to drink like civilized people, start small, light beers, then work your way up.

Originally posted by Resistance: And since when being able to handle alcohol became something lagu faano. Sida Shaax and Shaani loo handle kareeyo ana ku sareenaa hadaan Soomali nahay duqa. shaah iyo khamro midkee xun abti? mid diabetes buu ku siiya midna beer ka xumeeyaa. At least with khamro, cirka baad ku aada. In the end, both should be used in moderation. I'm a firm believer that alcohol is not haram, but the abuse of alcohol which can lead to liver disease s haram.

lol unlike most somali's, i can handle my liquor.

It's friday, a few more hours at work and then i'm off to the bars with saxiibkay Jack Daniels.

Who said vice is bad? Vice is good. Vice keeps cities vibrant and alive. Vice jump-starts economies and creates jobs. Just look at what piracy has done for that region, not only did the pirates and those who helped them get rich off terrorizing the oceans, but now that corrupt government in that region can also bring in some money from western governments to fight off pirates and create 'anti-piracy' coast guards, from NGO's, which in the end means, more jobs, more money for a fragile regional state. Other than remittance from back home, the piracy industry and the khat industry are the main reasons somali's survive today.

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: ^Why an older single mother with low-esteem and alcohol addiction, when he can simply find a clean, loving, caring single mother oo caruurta caanahooda wax kasiineyso? Why sell him short? :rolleyes: kuwas waa the somali garoob group i mentioned, laakin waa madax xanuun qarkood. with cadaan women, you get free biyokulul/alcohol and many other perks. B It's a temporary and exciting way to live, don't miss out if you become homeless.

This is the best time in your life to invest in a suga mama, look for a middle aged desperate white woman who owns a home, or better yet, crash with an older single mother with low self-esteem and alcohol addiction, find a somali garoob with a council house, sleep in hotel conference rooms. The possibilities of being a successful squatter and hobo are endless.

I'm a firm believer that mental health professionals, psychiatrists etc are scam artists bent on profiteering from prescribing drugs rather than genuinely helping people.

Originally posted by Valenteenah.: quote:Originally posted by Napoleon: carabi waa naage. Maxaad dumarka u caayeysaa? Blame the Sayiid. In his defense, I believe it was more about fighting ability of arabs than anything else.

carabi waa naage.

Originally posted by Karl_Polanyi: quote:Originally posted by Napoleon: Ah, the good old days when somalia was governed by sound socialist regime and not extremist religious dogma of today. And the good old socialists(tribalists) destroyed the country and turned you into a refugee. Now all that you have is to look at pictures of aeroplanes and look back the "good ol days". ps.these monkeys always find a way to insert religion into the the debate. The tribalists are those that destroyed our beautiful nation and continue to destroy it today, whether they are religious extremists or foreign bought dogs. I can't help be reminiscent of the good old days,for good they were, and we the proud people's of the horn, were the pride of africa. We were a people who understood the concept of law and order, people who understood 'kala dembeyn' and the need to work for the greater good. The best memories I've had are still back in somalia, in the early 80's, growing up in beautiful xamar. I remember the beautiful sands of liido beach where I would go every weekend to swim, play football and have a laugh. I remember a time when somalia was a vibrant and colorful place where laughter and good conversation were the mainstay and not suspicion, where good innovation was encouraged and not destroyed, where reason trumped emotionalism and radicalism, where women didn't dress like bee keepers and ninja's, but wore colorful clothing imported from across the globe, where business thrived and you would see mobile vendors, farmers, and nomads all of them working hard. An Ideal tourist destination, where people from different cultures would come and interact with another in the birthplace of human civilization itself. And what have we been reduced to today? Nothing more than a former shell of ourselves, our pride and noble characteristics replaced by laziness, thievery, small mindedness, hatred and ignorance. And we've reduced our beautiful capital to a dilapidated wasteland drenched in the blood of the innocent, a place where you don't hear laughter anymore but only the sounds of bullets, bombs, and wailing of mothers. And you Karl Polyani, you my dogmatic friend may sit behind your comfortable chair, pick your nose and wage a cyber jihaad encouraging teenage suicide bombers, but back home, all people want is to get back to the 80's and get back to peace.

Ah, the good old days when somalia was governed by sound socialist regime and not extremist religious dogma of today.

Originally posted by 2+2=5: People cheat for various reasons, boredom is rarely the case. It is still a fact though, that majority of people are faithful to their spouses. So don't try to make it sound like every married person cheats on their spouse. I would say a good number aren't, it's not in a mans nature to be restricted like xoolo. But, I suppose you will believe what you want, and I will believe what I want. Tuujiye Bajaqayahow, bajuuni cawaanka ah, sida dadka loo la hadlo baro Ciyaal faycaliyahow fowqal ciyaalfaycali.

Originally posted by Karl_Polanyi: boycott novels; read quran. The quran is a novel too, some say fiction, others non-fiction, it is nonetheless a novel. boycott gyms; go walking. walking alone is not sufficient exercise. boycott holidays; find a second wife. holidays are for vacation and enjoying ones self, wives are a headache. your solution defeats the purpose of going on holiday. boycott mohicans(another economic exchange mechanism used by liberals); Mohicans? the only mohicans i know are some native american tribe. ironically, I've always wanted to read the novel 'the last mohican'. I'll read it on the train, the next chance I get. grow a beard( not the david beckham one). I prefer a goatee.

Originally posted by 2+2=5: quote:Originally posted by Napoleon: ... have some miserable children who will drain every ounce of creativity you've had, Actually it's excessive and wrong use of sex that kill creativity. lol@wrong use, it's like reese's baby, there is no wrong way. The basic point is, one would/should be too busy with raising their children to have time for creativity. Boredom is a reality in marriage, hence the reason many people cheat.

Originally posted by Haatu: Napoleon: Every community has its good and bad. It is a disease to stereotype. This is generally true, but all stereotypes have a grain of truth. Besides like I said, being docile and timid is not necessarily bad.

^ this is the reason why somali girls play games, because their heads are filled with bull about reputation and have to resort to hiding behind parents backs to have some fun. It's better not to rush into marriage and have some fun, date,be open(figuratively and literally) make mistakes, and when the time comes and if you need to feel the need to be part of the herd of the miserably married, say istagfurallah, repent and get married, have some miserable children who will drain every ounce of creativity you've had, and when you're done raising them and you look like a female michelin man, and you grow old with saggy breasts, your children busy with their own lives to even call you and your husband leaves you for a younger model and you die and you become nothing more than dust in the wind with no certainty of what is ahead, at the very least you can look back at the memories you've made and say you've lived a full life, you've taking chances, you steered your own destiny and did not live according to the whims of the superstitious that came before you but you made your own luck and you live by your whims and you opened your legs as many times as you wanted, because that is life. Reputation is a social/religious construct designed to keep women from experiencing the joy of sex. Remember, ladies, your biggest asset, is your big a.ss.

Sujuie are docile, timid group and don't have the somali pride. That can be good and bad.