My noble brother I understand where you are coming from, we all know about Indhacadde, and the rest of the leaders whom used to preach and punch above their weight. Where are they all now? Allah knows best what they were up to, but they shouldn't lead young men into battle, and aggrevate an enemy whom they will not fight. I am speaking of those on the ground, those whom chose the path of Sayyid Abdullah instead of seeking asylum. Those include: Hasan Turki, Adan Ceyrow, Abu Mansoor, Fuad Mohamed - are these not honest, humble, people whom have no clanism in them? Have you ever gave them a chance? Did you ever listen to Adan's lecture on the battlefield - minutes away from the crusaders - saying that we are not here for tribes? Do you honestly think that a person whom is driven by qaabil can withstand the shelling of enemies? Which makes your heart jump to your throat. Do you think that Allah would allow a munafiqs blood to spilt for his sake? Honestly speaking look at the TFG, they defect everyday. Why? Because what they are upon is not xaq. They run at the first sight of shellings, or gun shots. Yes Ceyrow named himself after a tribe. But didn't the Sahaba? And the earlier muslims? Look at Abu Dharr al-Ghafiri etc. It was a practice of the Arabs to name themselves, after their tribe, birthplace, nationality etc.

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: Are you in celebatory mood? I don't understand you what you get out of this :confused: Its that Puntland and Somaliland beef. Sorta like crips and bloods, but with the same mother.

Why not hold it, adminstarte it, tax it and so on ya Brave clan militias who kill civilians Dear brother I think you should choose your words carefully. Since you are speaking about people whom put themselves on the line to kick the enemies out of your land. While the people whom you respect - protect, serve, and wash the feet of the aids infested crusaders. Allah knows best if they are some that are corrupted, but with every group you will have good and bad. You cannot however sit there and tell me the likes of Adan Ceyrow were driven by clanism, to feed our mother land with their warm blood and musk. P.S if you think I am Haawiye because I am defending them - think again, because this is coming from a fellow 'Puntlander'. Fear Allah when you are speaking of the Mujahideen. You should be critizing the criminals, whom you uphold.

Is there a book where I can read about the earlier history of Somalia? The information in your posts, what books are they extracted from?

Salamullahi 'Alaykum Amazing recitation by the noble Shayhk Salih al-Munajid who runs the Islam Q&A site. Its moves the hearts, check it out insha'allah :] : http://youtube.com/watch?v=crzrKRR81Os

^ Jazakallah Khayr dear bro :] .

I hope he is ignorant of 'al-Wala' so if he dies in that state, Allah Ta'ala will forgive him: becuase of his ignorance of the rulings on assisting the kuffar against the Muslims. May Allah guide him, ameen.

La Huwla Wala Quwata Illa Bilah Jazakallah alfa Khayr!

^ lool you know me I'm str8 with politics. Adiga ba ku dhaafa insha'allah, everbody has their place :] .

^ Sax

Originally posted by Brofessor_Geeljire: NA, am the kid that posts the Quran videos. ps.the there's some good stuff on the Islamic Secion, try reading some of Brother Nurs articles..... loool yes, yes, the Professor, the political analyst with the noble screen name :] . I like Camel threads already, brother Nur is great masha'allah.

Thanks dear bro :] . Are you geeljire from slife?

Hisham Ibn Hasan told me: I said to al-Hasan: 'I sit to learn the Quran, while my mother is waiting for me to have dinner. So al-Hasan said: 'Going to have dinner with your mother, pleasing her by that, is more loved to me then performing an additional (Hajj) pilgrimage'. [Al-Jami' Li Akhlaq Al-Rawi wa Adaab Al-Sami' 15/617]

Af course! I love it :] , its in my blood .

No I wasn't speaking about the Maldives or the exotic islands on the earth that are referred to as 'Pardises on Earth' :] . Relax, I was speaking of what Ibn Taymiyah said: 'Indeed in the dunya there is a Jannah, whoever doesn't enter it will not enter the Jannah of the aakhirah' When he was asked about what this Jannah is , he replied with : 'This Jannah is the love of Allah and his remembrance.'