My Idea of a new world. Great Society Speech By Lynden B Johnson Your imagination, your initiative, and your indignation will determine whether we build a society where progress is the servant of our needs, or a society where old values and new visions are buried under unbridled growth. For in your time we have the opportunity to move not only toward the rich society and the powerful society, but upward to the 'Great Society.' The 'Great Society' rests on abundance and liberty for all. It demands an end to poverty and racial injustice, to which we are totally committed in out time. But that is just the beginning. The 'Great Society' is a place where every child can find knowledge to enrich his mind and to enlarge his talents. It is a place where leisure is a welcome chance to build and reflect, not a feared cause of boredom and restlessness. It is a place where the city of man serves not only the needs of the body and the demands of commerce but the desire for beauty and the hunger for community. It is a place where man can renew contact with nature. It is a place which honors creation for its own sake and for what is adds to the understanding of the race. It is a place where men are more concerned with the quality of their goals than the quantity of their goods. But most of all, the 'Great Society' is not a safe harbor, a resting place, a final objective, a finished work. It is a challenge constantly renewed, beckoning us toward a destiny where the meaning of our lives matches the marvelous products of our labor.

WATERLOO By David Frum. Conservatives and Republicans today suffered their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s. It’s hard to exaggerate the magnitude of the disaster. Conservatives may cheer themselves that they’ll compensate for today’s expected vote with a big win in the November 2010 elections. But: (1) It’s a good bet that conservatives are over-optimistic about November – by then the economy will have improved and the immediate goodies in the healthcare bill will be reaching key voting blocs. (2) So what? Legislative majorities come and go. This healthcare bill is forever. A win in November is very poor compensation for this debacle now. So far, I think a lot of conservatives will agree with me. Now comes the hard lesson: A huge part of the blame for today’s disaster attaches to conservatives and Republicans ourselves. At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994. Only, the hardliners overlooked a few key facts: Obama was elected with 53% of the vote, not Clinton’s 42%. The liberal block within the Democratic congressional caucus is bigger and stronger than it was in 1993-94. And of course the Democrats also remember their history, and also remember the consequences of their 1994 failure. This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none. Could a deal have been reached? Who knows? But we do know that the gap between this plan and traditional Republican ideas is not very big. The Obama plan has a broad family resemblance to Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts plan. It builds on ideas developed at the Heritage Foundation in the early 1990s that formed the basis for Republican counter-proposals to Clintoncare in 1993-1994. Barack Obama badly wanted Republican votes for his plan. Could we have leveraged his desire to align the plan more closely with conservative views? To finance it without redistributive taxes on productive enterprise – without weighing so heavily on small business – without expanding Medicaid? Too late now. They are all the law. No illusions please: This bill will not be repealed. Even if Republicans scored a 1994 style landslide in November, how many votes could we muster to re-open the “doughnut hole” and charge seniors more for prescription drugs? How many votes to re-allow insurers to rescind policies when they discover a pre-existing condition? How many votes to banish 25 year olds from their parents’ insurance coverage? And even if the votes were there – would President Obama sign such a repeal? We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat. There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But they were trapped. Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had whipped the Republican voting base into such a frenzy that deal-making was rendered impossible. How do you negotiate with somebody who wants to murder your grandmother? Or – more exactly – with somebody whom your voters have been persuaded to believe wants to murder their grandmother? I’ve been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters – but by mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information, overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to represent and elected leaders to lead. The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds. So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours.

Welcome back Abdinuur!

useless bunch

10+ pages and two pictures to show for!!!

:rolleyes:

Are you that bored.

We are living in a crazy world.

"Wareer badanaa" canugaan kibirka kabatay aanba nacay, markaa aragtid beef baan qabaa qofbaa dhuusay buu ku jiraa. waar yaahe keep your emotions in check hokeeeeeeeeeeeeey. don't let this SOL fiascoos get to you. waxii walaaqi kartid walaaq waxii kadaba naageen kartid kadaba naage waxii is fahmi weesina banaanka kamar. anaka hanoo furan meel aaku qaras baxdidee Sharka cawdubilaaaaah

From Tuujiye: kaalay yarta wareerka waa igu cariirisay maluguu sheegay..amaan iisii wareer keyga...lol.. ^ :rolleyes: ^ "Wareer badanaa". hanugu kicin yaaqee wareer iyo waxkale aa na isku keen darsamaayee P.S Olol's source: Man ran over his wife

Aduunyooy xaalka ba. hadeer maskax wareerki intuu kabatay nimankii xaaskooda xataa wee hilmaamayaan. waa halki tuujiyee "wareer badanaa". Funny news of the day

Pucca Sorry sis I couldn't resist. This thread is one of the best in SOL me thinks

Where was I

NGONGE you make excellent point bro, but the million dollar question is, if those effected cannot afford basic food, water and shelter can we expect them to spend money on expensive contraceptive pills?. Its easy to blame Somali women what is obviously caused by Somali Men

******* EDITED********* By me. who else would delete my stuff. huh

^^ Its only reserved for the likes of Fidel eh ... wave that infront of him and boom you've got yourself a lap dog

^^ lured by budonkadonk kulahaa....gabadh he lives for that

^^ Someone is having a shiddy day, where you by any chance born in july. your moodiness makes me wonder if you are cancer lol

^^ Weed you say don't we already have that...ah hello its called KHAT our problems run deeper than Weed and Khat. I say let’s start a revolution in SOL and bury tribalism for once. Let’s bleed to Admin not to allow qabiil talk what so ever in SOL. Even though we have such rule in place right now some people just avoid the qabiil name and use regions known to certain tribes to either advance their tribes ideology or degrade another tribe, all without getting detected by Admin or moderators. Just look at what is written daily on the politic forum, some of that stuff is plain vomit. Do we equate politics to qabiil?. The prerequisite of politician must be warlordism. What really annoys me the most is seeing the younger generations following the footsteps of the older. Where else would you see 15 yrs old that have never set foot in Somalia talking about reer hebel and how his reer hebel is better than that reer hebel. I mean come on why we teach kids such stuff. I can understand if they were learning just to know their origins but why all the hatred. Why must we poison the young minds?. So I say again lets bury qabiil, let’s not contribute one more dollar to qaaraan which probably is used to fight the tribe next door, your so called ‘enemy’.

^^ I think she bought a knock off Nah she is loaded and can afford to throw one yourway too lol

This is part of my therapy cd lol 1- Where Is The Love Black Eyed Peas 2- He Wasn't Man Enough For Me by Toni Braxton 3- Busted by Isley Brothers Go upstairs (Busted) Pack your bags (Cause you busted) While you at it (Busted) Call a cab (Cause you busted) :cool:

People actually referred to it as "madoobe dheere". Did they?...somehow it doesn't bring passport to mind

This kind of news makes me go like :rolleyes: :mad: ------------------------------------------------------ Blair Won't 'Give One Inch' to Terrorists LONDON - Prime Minister Tony Blair vowed Tuesday not to "give one inch" on British policies in Iraq or the Middle East, and said his government is determined to toughen laws against terrorists and their supporters in the wake of attacks on London's transit system. Police investigating last week's failed bombings seized a car in north London and said they were examining suspicious material from an apartment linked to two suspects - an Eritrean-born Briton and a Somali who both have lived in Britain since childhood. Opposition politicians backed the government on fighting terrorism, but warned that civil liberties could be eroded by one of the anti-terrorism powers sought by police: the right to hold suspects for three months without charge. In his monthly news conference, Blair lashed out at critics who say Britain's participation in the U.S.-led war in Iraq has made the country more of a target. Polls suggest a majority of Britons share that view, overwhelmingly so among Muslim residents. Blair said that while terrorist groups use the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan to recruit and motivate followers, "I think most people understand that the roots of this go much deeper." "Let us expose the obscenity of these people saying it is concern for Iraq that drives them to terrorism," Blair told reporters. "If it is concern for Iraq, then why are they driving a car bomb into the middle of a group of children (in Iraq) and killing them? "Whatever excuse or justification these people use, I do not believe we should give one inch to them, not in this country and the way we live our lives here; not in Iraq; not in Afghanistan; not in our support for two states, Israel and Palestine; not in our support for the alliances we choose, including with America." Blair met with Conservative Party leader Michael Howard and Liberal Democrat chief Charles Kennedy to discuss legislation aimed at preventing a repeat of July 7 bombings in London that killed 52 people and four suspected suicide bombers. Four similar bombings failed on July 21. Blair said having consensus on the legislation will send "an important message to the terrorists of our strength, our determination and our unity to defeat them." Among proposals the government plans to put before Parliament in the fall is to outlaw "indirect incitement" of terrorism, including praising those who carry out attacks. That is aimed at extremist clerics accused of radicalizing disaffected Muslim youth in Britain. The law also would make it illegal to receive training in terrorist techniques in Britain or abroad, plan an attack, or engage in such activities as obtaining bomb-making instructions on the Internet. The opposition is broadly supportive but has qualms about the request from police to extend the period that terrorist suspects may be held without charge from 14 days to three months. "That is a long time to hold someone without charge, and possibly just release them after that," Howard said. Blair said his "basic posture on this is to support the police and security services unless there are good reasons not to, and there may be." But he also said the threat from al-Qaida and other extremists is different from that posed in the past by groups like the Irish Republican Army, which waged a campaign of bombings and shootings in Britain for decades. The transit bombers would have preferred to leave 550 people dead instead of 52, Blair said. "In America, it could have been 30,000 instead of 3,000, and they would prefer that. My entire thinking changed from Sept. 11 ... you have a different form of terrorism." Police released the names of two of the four suspects in the failed July 21 bombings, and the government said the pair were immigrants who moved to Britain as children of refugees. Armed officers raided an apartment Monday in north London where one of the two was a registered tenant, according to the local authority, and police said the flat was "associated with" the second suspect. A police spokeswoman said unspecified material found in the home Tuesday was being examined. Officers also seized a white VW Golf in the general area of the apartment in connection with the investigation, the spokeswoman said. No explosives were found but the car was impounded for further examination, she said. The Home Office said one of the identified suspects, Yasin Hassan Omar, a 24-year-old Somali, arrived in Britain in 1992 at age 11. He is suspected of attempting to blow up a subway train near Warren Street station. Muktar Said Ibrahim, 27, also known as Muktar Mohammed Said and suspected of trying to bomb a bus, is a naturalized British citizen from Eritrea. He was granted residency at age 14 in 1992 and citizenship last year. Said's relatives issued a statement saying he moved out of the family's northwest London home in 1994 and had rarely visited. "We were shocked when we saw Muktar's picture in the national news," the family said. "We immediately attended the police station and made statements to the police. We would suggest that anyone with information contacts the police." A neighbor described Said as a devout Muslim who once gave her a pamphlet on Islam. "He asked me if I was Christian or a Catholic because my family come from Ireland," said Sarah Scott, 23. "I said I was neither, that I was atheist. He said I should (believe in God) and that he was going to get me some information." "He talked about evil spirits. He said there were a lot of evil spirits around because everyone was evil around here," Scott added. Here is the source

Since MI6 and the FBI are probably reading this forum, we should emphasize the above and get them off our backs. This is more than likely...guys be carefull of what you write...some may take it out of context and make you out as terrorist supporter.

I think this article is relevant here. -------------------------------------------------- Dr Imran Waheed is the media representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain To hold the Muslim community entirely responsible for the actions of a few is highly irresponsible and will do little for community relations. This attitude will only alienate Muslims from the wider society and reinforce the perception that Britain is a divided society. What is required is for the whole society to accept responsibility for 7/7. It is time to do away with the tired labels of 'extremist' and 'moderate'; even people who hold dissimilar and disparate views can engage in dialogue. The British government needs to re-examine its policy of interference in the Muslim world, which started well before the Iraq war. The contradiction of espousing democratic values at home while supporting dictatorships throughout the Muslim world sits uncomfortably with many Muslims living Britain. This feeling has been further accentuated by the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as Britain's support for America's war against terror, which opinion polls suggest Muslims widely perceive to be a war against Islam. The British media also has an important role to play. The media needs to stop demonising Muslims and fanning the flames of Islamophobia. The media has to become more objective in its presentation of Islam and the Muslim community. Since the events of 9/11 we have seen the gradual depoliticisation of our mosques and centres of learning - during the Iraq war few Imams discussed the real extent of civilian casualties and fewer still channelled the anger and frustration of the Muslim community into Islamic political activism. This state of affairs cannot continue; our younger generation need to see that our mosques are open forums for discussing local, national and international issues. The Muslim community for its part needs to do much more, not only to confront those who seek to perpetrate such acts, but also to open up their mosques, community centres and houses to the wider society, including non-Muslims. We have to be proactive as a community in working to dispel the many myths that exist about Islam. Every Muslim needs to consider themselves to be an ambassador of Islam for the wider of society.