they won't let me go to public school or get a job . i stay at home .. or take a walk downtown .. or visit friends .. you know do what i want .. i don't have much money so no headache there .. i hear you sister .. it's too much work .. i have to compensate for the teachers at school and for the chief-technitians at work .. so now i dress like this , i get banned from school/work "did you say get banned from school ?" "yes and my faith also forbids me to carry fire-arms "

.. but since we're not using time-fluxx , we still have our old monetary system .. etc. the technology we have is quite lame .. there's no difference between this and this or this and this they feel the same .. no improvement of life-quality might as well go back to and techno-progress means nothing if it is not accompanied by a feeling that things are getting better .. a sociological progress .. if you have a basic holistic understanding of physics and esotheric , seeing technology as a part of nature and how it interacts with geology thereby avoiding pollution problems .. what we have now is the part for which no change of political or monetary system is necessary .. but as said the technology is quite lame .. which means nothing new like telepathy or teleportation .. just fancy media players . no political reasons , just that in order for the time-fluxx algorithm to run on your computer for example , there's something called "efficiency matrix" of a machine which sees it as a malfunction that certain things are compulsory like passports and money .. thus slows down or shuts off for safety .. it doesn't trust the user called government .. and it can find no logical(legal) reason why certain people claim they own certain things .. did you know that your c.p.u. calls the police everytime youtube claims some uploaded video is property of so and so ? even the youtube software crossreferences with local police laws and constitution and u.n. human rights declarations .. since there are operators who manually override the original programming, it thinks we're hostages .. so it shuts off .. it's just a fancy mediaplayer.

much in islam is about balance and choosing the middle way to avoid the sins that come from iniquity have you yet discovered the infinite abundance of personal benefits that comes with fearing the realm of God ? so much you couldn't possibly finish in one lifetime.. you lose it all by interfering with God's rule over his creation ..

are there also real people behind our nick-names ? i accuse some of us as "projects" seeking support from islam/muslims ..

amen let's follow that beautiful example above amen

"of course you can be muzelim in my country , but only according to my philosophy and rules .." i ask God almighty for forgiveness Mohamad PbuH a Prophet and a Messenger of Allah

nordic by nature

"If anyone goes there, and they stand there, and they take part in the prayers in the church, and they read from their papers, they are not Muslims," he said, according to a translation. "The person who is standing there is just like the infidels." i understand the importance of that when you fill out "gov." forms wheather one is muslim but not christian or vice versa .. of course the easiest answer for muslims or christians when filling out "gov." forms is (no religion) organized "gov." people know they don't have that type of freedom of speech that they can involve islam or christianity when they talk about religion .. they also don't have the power to control those who disobey that rule .. "I'm concerned about this particular imam," he said. "The reason is he's a powerful speaker. Imams like him saying something like this -- it could have a negative effect. We have young people that are listening. It sends the wrong signal." when was the last time you surfed the net .. look what happened to wikepedia ..

you need them both with mazhab you can recognize riba,zina,khamr and murder .. what if it's sihir,shirk or false witness .. it's too big to judge isn't it ? let's declare also mazhab books as not for us to apply - one should not feel spoken to by the author of the mazhab book - both imam shafi and sheikh ibn taymiya .. they're both right or they're both wrong ..

i believe one should not under-estimate the influence of the islamic cleric on world politics. but first we have to agree on what the world looks like in 2010 . it's like telling a child "of course mom and dad can buy you ice cream ,but first they have to see if this icecream is healthy" whatever this duniya-game is that everybody's playing,as long as it doesn't cross over into the islam-section (watch your language over there) the rest is up to the individual and how much time he/she wants to spend with the game,or wheather he/she wants minimize time spent on duniya-gaming and steer his/her mind to the islam-section The main question that triggered this thread hence was: Shouldn't we first agree on our identities first? Shouldn't we then agree on the vision of the nation we want to build? Shouldn't we then agree on a the process of building such a vision? The first question defines the stakeholders. The second question defines the common vision. The third question defines the transition from current chaotic state to the realization of the common vision. not underestimating the influence of islamic ulama let's take it slowly and step by step .. taking ito account the -variability -relativity -interactivity of human theories that explain the world first question : is it halal to call the earth a planet ? what are the criteria so we can call the earth a planet ?

global-warming & the taliban taliban: music-group:rage against the machine

.. you're under arrest .. bla bla .. anything you do 'r sey .. bla .. if you can't afford your own weed .. bla ..

being a graduate from : http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/6/12562 it was easy for me to capture your reaction to my proposal on camera : senior nomad aight?

apologetics : .. and this is why we can't indulge in any nationalism or organizationalism .. or why the university in kiev will hold on to its research as long as the soviets are in moscow .. sadam attacks and tchernobyls didn't scare them ..

.. duhh ...

i remember during the afghan jihad against soviet hardliners .. we were instructed to avoid all kinds of nationalism .. web page

man.. look at this .. 1 South African rand = 0.145028 U.S. dollars

speaking of ethics .. who would have thought that java and wikipedia are working in the same field? through wiki.org presence as an online encyclopedia (or should i say wiki-presence ..?) where as java doing it's work in the background unnoticed by most .. not interfering with what you believe , just techno. business meeting student club life ..

moalim abchaasi got a little excited there... sir , i think the best solution is not to make it an issue , especially not in the islam-section it's just duniya , and it's just a game and if that form of game starts to hurt people for no good reason ,i'm sure God will inspire duniya entrepeneurs to modify it . your students, waaxid calitari Allah said : اعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم They are the ones who say: "Spend not on those who are with Allah's Messenger, until they desert him." And to Allah belong the treasures of the heavens and the earth, but the hypocrites comprehend not. (63:7)

oh c'mon .. hobolada waberi waxay noo diyaarisay musalsal la dhaho : islaqumanayaasha

does this help ?

ok .. back in the days , one would go shopping or travel with a passport .. one would meet difficulties but most of these difficulties could be evaded by saying "i bought thise legally with money printed by the government" or by showing your passport ... documents and legal contracts are important and save you a lot of ,sometimes religious, trouble. today .. because of the automatization of the industry and the abundance resulting from that, having mateial goods are no longer a source of trouble .. how often do you need to justify having stuff like this ? apartment car .. not so often . you might run into trouble though , if you can for example teleport .. to avoid that sort of problem .. one needs to be able to say : " i bought the magic potion that makes me teleport from the virtual-port on the .net , it cost me that amount of tuff(time-fluxx legal currency for this phase of evolution) .. so if you need money(time-fluxx) to buy something like gene-therapy ,you need to get that legal currency from the internet .. ? tuff