allah bless the departed. oh eithopia, you can kill and destroy as many somalis as you want but you will never kill our spirit to be free

Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics : quote:Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: quote: Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics : quote: Originally posted by Emperor: Seriously people, Duke is only a member of this site and a not major player in the Somali plitics, will you stop dwelling on his character and rather deal with the topic at hand, deal with the message and thepoint made in the thread... hadii kale, Duke kuwaasha... Duke, you made a great point and Hassan Dahir's crimes are more than you listed, start from the days he initiated conflict and spread fitnah in the early nineties in Kismaayo, Puntland, Gedo and all over Somalia... Oh really? The man you and Duke worship, has been committing massacres in Somalia since 1977. 16 thousand people died in Mogadishu as a result of Abdullahi Yusuf's war against the people of Mogadishu. In the history of Somalia, there was NO-Body who was more bloodthirsty and fanatical as Abdullahi Yusuf. We are reminded this every-time we see the sad state of affairs in our country. Good thing he is a refugee in Yemen but his legacy will haunt us for a long-time. RR, I see your delusions are not limited to Duke. A yusuf was not blood thirsty leader let alone the most... You raise a valid point= Equating Shariif with his aggressor and charging him with war crimes for defending himself, his government and the citizens he represents is an admission of supporting a war criminal on the part of a Yusufite because that is exactly what he did when he was in that position. Just don't kill it with hyperbole, its a derogation of your point. Abdullahi Yusuf has been engaged in destabilizing behavior since 1977 being a tool of Ethiopia to topple the Siyad Barre regime. This is the man who massacred many innocent women and children in Balanbale in the 1980 and hoist the Ethiopian Flag on Somali territory. The same man who spend years in Ethiopian jail after they used and abused him. The same man who is synonymous and brags about his ability to use the clan card more effectively than others. The same quisling who led the Ethiopian troops to Somalia massacring 16 thousand innocent women and children and displaced million others. The same man whose government was called out by Human Rights Watch and other reputable Human Rights Organizations for his crimes against humanity. The same man Duke, Emperor and You defend to the bitter end simply because he shares clan name with you. Not just Somalis understand Abdullahi Yusuf's criminal minded propensity. Even the International Community who placed him in Villa Somalia realized it; albeit too late. Hence, his current status as a refugee in Yemen. recovering romantics, nabi isa (AS) talked about people like duke and emperor in parables: He said 'they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand'

duke is abdullahi yusuf's mouth piece. nothing more nothing less. abdullahi yusuf has done more damage to somalia and xaamar than everybody else put together. duke, your hero is nothing more an eithopian stooge. change your allegieance and serve your eithopian overlords. For you are anything but somali

somaliand and puntland are eithopian colonies. this is what we somalis have sunk to. the eithopians have moved on from abusing ******is. they are now abusing somalis in somalia. the shame and honour has left long agao

xiin you will make a good igad politician. there is a job in addis abbaba waiting for you. as for igad, well if their aims for somalia was unclear before they are now

yey was nothing more than a worthless sellout. His era of cowardice and treachery began when he fought against the somalia army back in the 70s with the eithopians suprise suprise. people like him will join abu jahl and the like as the disgraceful pathetic people they are in the annals of history. anyone who supports yey is not even a somali as far as i am concerned. If their is any justice on earth that qusiling trash should be hanged from the nearest tree for treason.

what a loser. a puppet government that lives like a parasite depending upon the west and the murderers of addis abbaba does not even have the grace to keep its mouth shut. while he's busy selling sea to the kenyans, his political masters are already preparing the next move for him

just like hosni mubarak. just like the king of jordan. just like the saudi king. we somalis too have our munafiqeen. sad to see for a once proud race

I assume they became takfiiris once they opposed the Sharif-TFG, but they were, in your words, noble knights of Somalia and the brave boys of Al-Shabaab when they were spilling the blood of Ethiopian troops and TFG-Yey militia ? Your hypocritical contradictions are amazing. A quick archives search will turn up a multitude of comments of you not only praising Al-Shabaab, but their leaders, and their manhaj as well . Wait, let me guess: You have 'evolved' in your thinking. You've decided to run for the office of Somali liaison to the Mayor of Minneapolis so you've recently discovered the virtues of 'moderation'. Al-Shabaab haven't changed their stance. They fought Yey yesterday(and exiled him) and so they fight Shariif Al-Khabeeth today(and will soon exile him). The man who is guilty of flip-flopping and which the reading audience expects a thorough explanation is you, friend. Geesinimada aa kaga jawaabtay su'aashayda la imow, and give us a explanation. ouch!

kashafa is awesome!

as usual kashafa has nailed it again

sheikh sharif chose to rely on the west and the au instead of his own people. result: total failure

the kuffar of abysinnia are back to invade somalia to continue the anarchy that was disappearing under al shabab's rule. the kaffir will not be satisfied until he sees the muslim change his ways to suit his. why are you suprised by this? whats the sad thing is to see the munafeqeen who want to help them against their own people

tell the people of kismayo and other cities whether the islamists brought them pain. tell the people of mogadishu who were dancing in the streets when the icu took over the south in 2006 if it is safer under them compared to the warlords who destroyed the country? you're are too focused on the international community. you seem to care about them more than the well being of somalis. if the ordinary somali wants the islamists to rule because they can provide security and stability like places in kismayo then why should he care about what the rest of the world thinks. duke. the world does not care about somalia. the sooner you understand that the better. infact some in intl community want the anarchy to continue. it's time we somalis learnt to not care what the world thinks. the only thing that matters sre the somali people and how to bring peace quickly under one single power.

duke you're right in one thing. the stability of mogadishu is the key here. if the south is stable somalia becomes stable. thats why it's the ultimate price. however you're wrong in one thing. the islamists are doing what any sane political and military force is doing. pacifying the country once and for all. there has been too many players in the south. it's time only one player emerged from this and rules the south with an iron fist. the islamists are better placed. just like how they did in 2006. just like chairman mao united china which has the same clannish structure like somalia, the islamists will reunite the country inshallah.

riyaale should be the last person to take about deen. this eithopian stooge and tyrant has no concept of deen whatsoever

yey should be executed for treason and cowardice.

funny silanyo had the balls to confront siad barre and yet a simpleton like riyaale gets the better of him. nice man but uktimately a fool.

Originally posted by Kashafa: Resistance, Forgive me, kind sir, but I thought names had relevance. Umar was called Al-Faaroq because he divided between the Xaq and the Baatil. Abu Bakar was called Al-Sadeeq because he believed the Prophet when all others rejected him. Abu Jahal was called Abu Jahal because he was the father of ignorance. Shariif Ahmed is called Al-Khabeeth because of his khubth and makr. Do you see a pattern here ? Like I said, you need to change your name. Or your defeatist attitude. About Somalia, Shabaab already control almost all of South Somalia. They already control the TFG parliment headquarters in Baidoba. They already control the strategic port of Kismaayo. Mogadisho will be a similarly important addition. Waxba haku marmarsiyoonin "we will be invaded". According to that pathetic logic, Ethiopia should have never been resisted because resistance would only cause more death and suffering. A The ICU should have never taken over Mogadisho and Kismaayo in 2006 because the world would not allow a Islamic government to come to power. And now, the Islamists should not take over Mogadisho because "America will never allow it" Sorry, but this is the textbook description of a slave mentality, if it already wasn't clear to you. Everything you do or don't do is subject to the approval or denial of your feared masters. The sad thing is that people who think like you are deluded into thinking that their slave mentality is actually diplomacy and statesmanship. sad but true. summed up the whole thing beautfifully

Originally posted by Gheelle.T: quote:Originally posted by Somali Pirate: sharif is reactive. not proactive. that's killing him. relying on foreign elements has killed sheikh sharif if it hasn't You said in other thread that Shareef's government doesn't have the support of the people, while these men who you vehemently support have apparently enjoy that support(according to you.) If so, why would they fight in the midst of the same people they are saving? why would you kill and maim them if you their interest at heart? You can finger point to whoever you want and scapegoat AMISOM or whatnot, but the actions of these guys will never be justified. they are fighting in the city to take over it. pretty simple. Although it is sad that civilians get killed in the crossfire. i saw this coming back in feb. amisom was sharif's watergate

sharif is reactive. not proactive. that's killing him. relying on foreign elements has killed sheikh sharif if it hasn't

yey found it to his terrible cost and sharif is learning that lesson right now. for a government to work it should get the legtimacy from the people. to do that it has to work with the entire political spectrum. sheikh sharif has made the mistake on relying on foreigners and AMISOM for support instead of somalis themselves.

Originally posted by Emperor: Before Yusuf Yey, for almost two decades, battles raged and morters rained on Mogadishu, and they still rain and civilians flee after he left... It was purely an excuse to pass the blame on him simply because he was there, Mogadishu... If he was the problem, then we have no problem now! were you in a coma from june 2006 till dec 2006? who actually went and destroyed that 6 months of relative peace that was achieved after years of misery?

i would'nt bother with duke. he keeps talking about somalinimo and yet his hero fought against his own country with eithopia not once but twice!! And he has the audacity on coming over here and lecturing ppl on yey's virtues. It would be so laughable if it were not painful. It takes a corrupt mind to support a traitor. Then again. In somalia qabeelinimo has been known to corrupt even good people. I remember john walker lindh who fought with the taliban against the americans. The americans jailed him. Only in somalia are there people ready to support the enemy against their own kind

dukey, don't hide from history. the tenure of the traitor coward yusuf visited the most destruction on xamaar since the ali mahdi/aideed era. yusuf was a failure from both a leadership and personal point of view. His thirst to be a ruler of somalia has consumed him and made him in the end nothing more broken man somewhere in yemen.