it's really sad to see some somalis calling hiv eithopians who raped somali women as saviours while mocking the only fighting force fighting for somalia. because of al shabab today, somalis have no worries about getting killed by eithopian animals

Originally posted by NABAD_NABAD_NABAD: A man who praises Piresy one minute and condemns another. A man who asks Puntland to remain in the Union and asks another to succeed. Listen mate, Puntland was established by its people to look after its interest and security. After distruction of the Somali State everyone has gone his way to take care of their own people, why don't you do the same instead of Bashing Puntland and Somaliland, or do you want them to join you in your anarchy party. NAY. puntland can't even look after it's own coastal waters and citizens rotting in kenyan jails. The destruction of the somali state was brought upon by the people of puntland and the south somalia. It's everyone fault. siyad barre decided to destroy the country instead of giving up power and the south decided to tear each other apart after the government was overthrown. It's every one's fault. as long as seccessionists and clan interests remain, there will be no prosperity. There might be peace. But no prosperity. prosperity can only be attained when somalis act as somalis and not as habel xamar or habel puntlander. So here's the deal. somalia divided into 3 = peace but no prosperity somalia united = peace AND prosperity which is it going to be?

dukey's first love is puntland not somalia. All this support the dijbouti process is smoke and mirrors

puntland's contribution to somalia is nothing but treachery and piracy. 2006 south somalia was safe. they ruined it by bringing ethios in to do their bidding setting back progress. Puntland has traitors in their midst and they need to be brought to justice before they can join in. secondly, piracy. poor fishermen in somalia are asking where is puntland coastal guards? the world's navies are here to protect their interests. where is puntland to help them? already somalis are being thrown in kenya to frace trials rather than in their own country. Why is puntland not protesting? somalis will be beaten up and humiliated in kenyan prisons while dukey will post another thread on another great puntland government is. what i am trying to say is very simple. puntland is a state that looks after it's own interests. Not the interests of somalia in general. I hope they can realise that the way to progress each other is to join the south without the need to crow and beat around the bush on how great puntland is. We are somalis after. That's the important thing. Presently the leaders of puntland are unreliable. We need leaders who put the interests of somalia first rather than their own. same with somaliland where it has been ruled by even worse people like that triator snitch warlord riyaale. In the famous saying of unknown fighter, a house divided is a house conquered.

puntland should be a part of somalia but not until the traitors have been brought to justice. starting with traitor number 1 abdullahi yusuf. i am sure the chinese too are looking for him after he sold them the rights to offshore oil drilling but find it now a worhtless contract.

puntland should be a part of somalia but not until the traitors have been brought to justice. starting with traitor number 1 abdullahi yusuf. i am sure the chinese too are looking for him after he sold them the rights to offshore oil drilling but find it now a worhtless contract.

puntland should be a part of somalia but not until the traitors have been brought to justice. starting with traitor number 1 abdullahi yusuf. i am sure the chinese too are looking for him after he sold them the rights to offshore oil drilling but find it now a worhtless contract.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ What isn't in Somali politics, saaxib? Somali Pirate, so is it payback time? the pirate says if a brother betrays you today, he can betray you tomorrow. Hence munafiqs should not be allowed to rule.

2 undeniable facts one somalia will be a failure if there is fragmentation all the 3 divisions cannot rule each other. the only way is to have a federation like iraq and united kingdom 3 seperate districts with each controlling local authorities under one centralised government.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ You don't think they should protest if they feel they're being stitched up here? stiched up? you mean the way puntland stiched up the silamic courts by bringing in the eithopians?

Originally posted by NABAD_NABAD_NABAD: quote: hahaha, puntland is peaceful just like somaliland. but that's all it is. Your talking cheap now, ok lets assume what your saying, is there anything GREATER than PEACE?????. You've proven to be empty headed by saying that. Thats why you have mayhem in the south for the last 18 years, coz you don't understand the value of PEACE. the south had finally achieved peace in 2006 u8nder the islamic courts. but instead of helping them continue the peace, puntland and somaliland backstabbed the people of xamaar. what a shame. Imagine how the south would have been today if the islamic courts still ruled.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ One minute you tell them to go their own way and the next you talk about a united Somalia! You have no clue, do you saaxib? Worst of all, you are also a fan of the 'qabiil free' Al Shabab (not that it shows in your words). i want a united somalia, dont get me wrong. i rather our puntland brothers join in. But making threats to seceede if they dont get their way is a no no. By the way i support al shabab for the primary reason that they made those hiv eithopian animals lives a miserable hell for the past 2 years.

Originally posted by NABAD_NABAD_NABAD: quote: spare me the rabble. Puntland has brought one of the most shameful episodes in all of somalia. LOL. Piraty, Saxiib, save your energy. Puntland has a functioning government, a functioning econmy, a functioning peace. You have nothing, You blame every Tom and Dick for your problems, Puntland was not there when your warlord uncles such as AIDEED, ALI Nafto, YALHOW, ATO, Qanyare were looting, distroying, raping, and mugging people of the South, your uncles are the ones who brought you to where you are, don't blame Puntland or anyone else. Why Ethiopia did not invade Puntland or Somaliland, because (WAY IS SHARFEEN, OO WAX BAY QABSADEEN) but you guys keep blaming the whole world for your woes. hahaha, puntland is peaceful just like somaliland. but that's all it is. no economy, no jobs, no infrastructure, no civil insitutions, no oppurtunities, no investment, absolutely nothing. people are fleeing the hard life. the kids have resorted to piracy. the seas of puntland is being robbed by the foreigners who brought their navies into somali waters. they are dumping toxic waste in puntland waters. no army, no navy nor a military. saxxib, wake up from the dream. puntland is just a failed state within a failed country. somalia will be a failure for all eternity as long as it is fragmented. the day somalia becomes one will be the day. until then the clan interests will continue to destroy the country

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Somali pirate, dear lad you are not adding anything new to the forum, you are another ill-informed fellow devoid of facts rearranging his prejudices. “you guys” wont get you out of this adeer, Puntland is a huge part of Somalia, and it is moving foreword at peace with itself and has a functioning government. What do you present to the contrary? Mere cheap talk, “stuff and nonsense” as one SOL elder states. ha, functioning government? a government where some petrol head or a taxi driver can be a president. lol don't make me laugh. puntland's shameful treachery of somalia will long live in the annals of somalia's history. And what's even more funny is after the south is free from eithopian occupation they have the gall to ask for 'participation'lol

Originally posted by NABAD_NABAD_NABAD: Pirate your nobody without PUNTLAND. here i some statistics you need to bury in mind. 1) Puntland is one third of Somalia. 2) Puntland has produced most of the founding fathers of the modern Somali nation such as the SYL. 3) Even the flag you wave was designed by a Puntlander. 4) It is the most effective political entety in Somalia. 5) It has produced many high ranking state officials, such as Pre.A/Rashid, Prim.A/Rizak, many diplomats, civil servants, itellectuals, and so on. I can go on and on. puntland is the only state in the world that has brought neighbouring enemies into their own country to kill their fellow somalis. wow what an achievement spare me the rabble. Puntland has brought one of the most shameful episodes in all of somalia. Wallahi even their overlord siad barre would cry today if he has seen what the puntlanders have done. and now when the south is gearing up to peace, the barking is getting louder in puntland. let us participate or we will secede. i hope they secede and leave the south in peace

Originally posted by General Duke: Somali-Pirate: lool. We need only Allah, and due to the war we have build everything on our own. However in Puntland Somalinimo is still a big draw thus we don’t need to break away. There are other ways to skin a cat. Our interests can be gained without discarding our principles. dont make laugh dukey. you guys never wanted somalinimo unless it involved you guys controlling the strings. once upon a time that was accepted. but after the disaster of abdullahi yusuf presidency, that will never happen again. so spare us the somalinimo overtures. puntland should simply secede. The south is on the verge of full blown peace since 2006 when the Islamic courts controlled xamaar. this time they will not ruin it

Originally posted by General Duke: Somali Pirate. Puntland covers 40% of Somalia proper, go cut of 40% of your body and see whats left.. but i thought the great puntland did'nt need somalia or somaliland. They are self sufficient no? so why don't they get lost then?

no body cares about puntland. They brought habashis into somalia. I hope they secede and leave the south in peace

by the way, al shabab has done what no somali movement has done in xamaar since the islamic courts. ensuring peace and stability. go al shabab. all true somalis love and applaud the muqawama. Because of you no hiv eithopian is running around in our country

the bbc is running anti al shabab articles recently. some eithopian traitor was executed for treason in somalia for supporting eithopian occupation in kismayo. guess what the bbc said. they said the man was executed for leaving islam. what a bunch of jokers. The same bbc who refuse to put the gaza appeal. al shabab is welcome in baidoa. people are safe and happy

east african nations can go to hell. They should stay out of somali internal affairs

the true enemies of a united somalia is clear for everyone to see. seccessionism is the new warlordism

al shabab needed there to clean them up

al shabab is the only group out there free from tribal polictics and warlordism

what a suprise. Puntland leaders have been revealed to be a backward clannish state. When their master abdullahi yusuf ruled, it was support the TFG. What a bunch of jokers. Puntland oo digniin ka soo saartay Shirka Jabuuti Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 11:04 AM Wasiirka warfaafinta DGPL Warsame Cabdi shirwac oo maantay shir jaraa’id ku qabtay Caasimada Puntland ayaa waxa uu sheegay in Puntland ay si weyn uga soo horjeedo wadahadalka ka socda Jabuuti. Wasiirka ayaa waxa uu shirkiisa jaraa’id ku sheegay in wadahadalka Jabuuti uusan aheyn mid Shacabka iyo dowlada Puntland aysan marna raali ka aheyn in sida wax loo qeybsaday aysan aheyn sida uu sheegay habkii soomaalida markii hore ku heshiisay ee 4.5. Warsame waxa uu hadalkiisa oo ahaa mid aad u kulul ayaa waxa uu beesha caalamka ugu baaqay in ay il gaar ah ku fiiriyaan shirka Jabuuti isaga oo yiri ” Xubnaha barlamaanka Puntland uga qeyb galay beelaha ku dhaqan awood uma laha in nin Banaadir iyo gobol kale ka yimid uu soo xulo”. Wasiirka warfaafinta Puntland waxa uu sheegay in Xildhibaanada ka qeyb galay Kulanka Jabuuti ay yihiin kuwo aan matalin shacabka iyo weliba beelaha reer Puntland isaga oo hadalkiisa ku sii daray in Puntland ay ogtahay oo keliya 3 Qof oo Mucaaradka ka mid ahaa balse uu diiday in uu faahfaahiyo magacyada ay leeyihiin. Hadalka wasiirka ayaa waxa uu imanay iyada Madaxweynaha Puntand uu war qoraal ah u diray wakiilka Jamciyadda Quruumaha ka dhaxeysa ee arrimaha Soomaaliya Axmed Walad Cabdalla kaas oo wasiirku sheegay in uusan wax faahfaahin ah ka bixin karin Hadii ay jirto jawaab iyo in kale. Dhanka kale waxaa Magaalooyinka Puntland oo dhan laga dareemayaa hadal haynta Shirka Jabuuti iyadoo Magaalada Galkacyo ay dhawaan ka dhaceen Banaan bax weyn oo lagu taageerayo go’aanka ay Maamul goboleedka Puntland ay u gaartay si wada jir ah. XOL Garowe,Puntland Somalia