Originally posted by Socod_badne: Education is the absolute bare requirement for prosperity. The disadvantaged are generally benighted, while the privileged are highly educated. Therefore, we can establish that education is the driving force for dropping rate of faithful in the West or Rich World. . Summarizing the above in point form: 1) Education is the absolute bare requirement for prosperity 2) The disadvantaged are generally benighted 3) The privileged are highly educated 4) [Faith lacking among most educated and from 1) the wealthiest] therefore 5) Education is the driving force for dropping rate of faithful in west or rich world. How then do you explain the United States? With a literacy rate of 99% (you'd agree that literacy is the "absolute bare requirement for" education, wouldn't you?) and unparalleled wealth yet a rate of less than 10% admitted atheist, agnostic or non-believing? Even worse, Vietnam, though also educated but pretty poor (wonder why their literacy and education didn't bestow wealth upon them) and yet over 80% self-confessed non-believers? Your conclusion is a bit contrived SBiyow. A better conclusion could have been neither education nor wealth is a very good indicator of faith, or lack thereof.

Originally posted by Tukaale: I did read it brother, dissappointingly it was a waste of 2 or 3 minutes. May I ask for compensation? Tell me, brother Tukaale, what evokes these feelings of disapointment in you when reading this article? Is it the identity of the author? The message he's bringing forth? The language in which it's written? The paper that published it? And why disapointment and not fury or disgust? What is it saaxib? Nevermind. These are all rhetorical questions. I'm not even slightly interested in knowing why you're so disapointed.

Originally posted by Pierre-Faarax: Tyj,why you like playing with the old boys? huh? What's the alternative? Play with a guy called Pierre? Ouucc.

^ Due to its extremely graphic nature, Google decided to remove it.

Originally posted by Tukaale: ^^ FYI this section is "Islam" and not religion in general. And Mr Pope Benedict's speech is not very welcome in here.. Did you read the bloody article? Brother, your response strikes me "as pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age." :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should have posted this here. Here's a relevant excerpt: At the morning mass Benedict said that Western societies had become "hard of hearing" about God, saying: "There are too many other frequencies in our ears. What is said about God strikes us as pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age." He contrasted this to a faith he still found in developing countries, where 70 percent of the world's Catholics now live. "People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess, but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form of reason," he said. They sensed a "contempt for God" in Western societies and "a cynicism that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom and hold up utility as the supreme moral criterion for the future of scientific research," he said. JBiiyow, how is this related to broadway or to biscuits?

Faith fading in rich world, alive in poor: Pope Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:56 PM ET By Philip Pullella and Madeline Chambers MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) - Western societies are losing their souls to scientific rationality and frightening believers in the developing world who still fear God, Pope Benedict told an open-air mass in Germany on Sunday. Benedict, on the second day of a visit to his native Bavaria, said that spreading the word of Jesus Christ was more important than all the emergency and development aid that rich churches like those in Germany gave to poor countries. He also stressed the role of faith in fighting AIDS "by realistically facing its deeper causes," indirectly confirming the Church view that pre-marital abstinence and fidelity in marriage are the way to combat sexually transmitted diseases. About 250,000 faithful, many of them families with children, gathered at the fairground for the mass. "I've been here since five o'clock in the morning," said Kerstin Gessert, 32, from Karlsruhe. "I think it's important that he has come." Wearing green and white vestments, the Pope addressed the crowd from a platform covered by a white canopy. Some in the crowd wore traditional Bavarian folk dress and sat down to picnics of sausages and bread after the service. "Social issues and the Gospel are inseparable," said the Pope. "When we bring people only knowledge, ability, technical competence and tools, we bring them too little," he said, hammering away at his central concern that secularisation and materialism have replaced faith in Western thinking. Later, Benedict, 79, who has hinted the visit to his home region could be his last, led vespers at the Cathedral Of Our Lady in Munich where he served as archbishop from 1977 to 1982. The twin green onion domes make the cathedral one of the city's best-known landmarks. Completed in 1488, it is Bavaria's largest church and has served as the cathedral for the archbishops of Munich and Freising since 1821. Inside, the Pope, clad in glittering vestments of green, silver and gold, smiled broadly as young girls in first communion dresses and with flowers in their hair greeted him. On his six-day trip, Benedict will also visit his birthplace at Marktl am Inn, the shrine to the Virgin Mary at Altoetting and Regensburg, where he taught theology from 1969 to 1977. Police said the bright yellow house where the Pope was born in Marktl am Inn and which he was due to visit on Monday, was splashed overnight with two bags of blue paint by vandals. "CONTEMPT FOR GOD" At the morning mass Benedict said that Western societies had become "hard of hearing" about God, saying: "There are too many other frequencies in our ears. What is said about God strikes us as pre-scientific, no longer suited for our age." He contrasted this to a faith he still found in developing countries, where 70 percent of the world's Catholics now live. "People in Africa and Asia admire our scientific and technical prowess, but at the same time they are frightened by a form of rationality which totally excludes God from man's vision, as if this were the highest form of reason," he said. They sensed a "contempt for God" in Western societies and "a cynicism that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom and hold up utility as the supreme moral criterion for the future of scientific research," he said. He singled out the German Catholic church, one of the world's richest, as one that generously gives emergency and development aid but plays down the spreading of the Gospel. "Evangelisation itself should be foremost," he declared. Source

^ Xiin qof uu sabaaxedeeyo ayuu raadinayaa caawa. All you need is one example that shows bigger is not better to disprove it atheer. Mise inaad caawa oo dhan na ereryataad rabtaa? I'm off to watch the wall-to-wall Bin Laden coverage on T.V. :rolleyes:

^ All I have is anecdotal evidence atheer. Some of it is very compelling as well. I dunno why Bishaaro is so adamant, however. Perhaps she'd like to share with us.

^ Are you calling me a jiib baast@r? LOL. This is all I got to say to you: I don't know what you heard about me But LSK can't get a dollar out of me No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see That I'm a %^&*(@#%#&*#**@*@*@ Original lyrics courtesy of 50 cent

^ Ouch. Oh what big head you have there good Xiin.

^ Agreed. I'm starting my prayers now.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Bishaaro, I am disputing the universal myth that fallaciously states the bigger an object is, the better it is! It's not universal atheer. Certain objects are better if they're bigger. Clearly, muscles are one example. The bigger a muscle, the stronger it is. Brains are another. The size of the brain is directly proportional to its processing power. The bigger the hips, the easier the child birth, and so on. But why are you so passionately disputing this phenomenon?

^ LOOOOL. That's hilarious but I'm afraid it won't cut it. LSK can't pay bills with prayer atheer though he (and anyone) would accept prayers, US$ is what he needs most.

SOL will become a pay-per-post service. You niggas have been roaming these boards for 5 years without paying a dime. Did you all think your mommies paid for this? Pay up or don't let the door hit you on your way out.

^ Nipples atheer, nipples. There's no need to assume.

^ Size does matter for bigger is surely better.

^ Post the link and let us judge for ourselves. One man's skimpy clothing is another man's full metal jacket.

Is this you TYJAWANAIA? You're starting a fitnah by posting these luscious lips. Istaqfurulah. Can you post the rest of the face?

^ Nigga is old as dirt. I heard he was 46. And you could easily add another 3-4 years to that.

I'm stunned an article like this would be published by anyone. Do you have the source sheikh Nurow? What courage this man has.

^ Insensitive men. :rolleyes: Originally posted by Pucca: ...but waste precious egg time?? hmm...i'd have to say that would probably only apply to folks who's bio clock is tickin at a mad rate ... You're mistaken atheer. The rate of the ticking clock is the same at the start (with the first egg) and at the end at about 4 weeks per egg. What Modestly probably means by her statement is that over 5 years, the lady in question will have expended upwards of 65 eggs waiting for this dude to make up his bloody mind. And when you consider the entire time she's able to produce any eggs, 5 years is about 20% of the total, assuming she's able to produce them between the ages of 15 and 40, give or take a few years. Even worse, it is likely that during those five years (her late teens to her middle and late twenties), the quality of the eggs is at its highest. And quality here refers to, all else being equal, reduced risk of miscarriage, less defective embryos, etc.. So in a nutshell, and minus the Biology lesson everyone knows and I didn't really have to repeat, Modesty hit the nail on the head. It was a waste of "precious egg time". As opposed to being a waste of just regular egg time.

Originally posted by Modesty: I think the most you should wait for a person before marriage is 2 years, more than that, you are acting like galo and wasting precious egg time. You're wise beyond your years atheer. I certainly wouldn't let anyone waste my precious egg time. Priceless advice indeed.

^ Watch out. Ngonge has a fan club around here some of whom are quite rabid. I think he calls them (and treats them like) groupies. Originally posted by Khalaf: Sxb NGONGE or Professor NGONGE just curious man if u dont mind what was ur area of study? Atheer Ngonge has a degree in B.S. Or was it a B.S. of a degree? I can't remember. Whatever he does (I heard he's a plumber), he must not be very good at it seeing how much time he spends online lecturing (more like scolding) grown ups. I like his writing just the same.

Originally posted by WILDCAT: if I am no longer being told I am a "blasphemous big" Just how big are you?