No worries about the deleted text saaxib. The "ceeb" you're worried about though is more of a concern. So what if we have people claiming to be more Arabs than the Arabs? I see no more shame in that than people who live in the "greatest" country in the world and claim to get abducted by UFOs. Or those who still insist the earth is flat. In each case, the shame, if there's any, is on an individual basis and can hardly be extended to everyone else. As for el commandante, he's not very well, as I'm sure you've heard, and once he passes away (or I do, whichever comes first), I will stop using name.

And the "shisheeye" that goes through the trouble of reading this forum would have difficulty finding someone to translate the above? __________________ Mar sadexaad raali ahoow. Intaas ayaan ka save gareeye, oo waa soo qori kartaa waxa maqan. [ September 18, 2006, 05:02: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^ May Allah have mercy on his soul. The thread was about the nun, atheer. If the title was "Muslim body guard of nun killed," I'd have said it.

^ No need to hire a 78 year nun to be a spy in Somalia. Many younger and healthier Somalis would gladly spy on their own brethren (of other clans, of course). Some would even do it for free. :rolleyes: May she rest in peace.

Originally posted by Sharif_seylaci: Till u say say somaliland haa noolato We are arabs I see. This is more like it. It ain't really about DNA sequencing, is it? LOL. As you were.

Originally posted by J B: and coupling that with the rational conclusion that , ""Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul" . Maybe just be it'd intresting to see Nur or Xiin splitting semantic hairs, " Jihad", "holy War" with the Pope, instead shrugging the trade-offs . Atheer JB, either this pope has no knowledge of the history of the church or he just loves dishing out insults. In the name of this "loving" god the pope speaks of, tens of millions have been killed all over the globe. For the pope to say Islam is violent is not only factually (and historically) incorrect, but it is a shameless case of the "pot calling the kettle black."

Originally posted by Jimcaale: And why would you care about what Arab pig thinks of Non-Arab Muslims? I don't. The contrast is remarkable, however, when you superimpose this bigoted view with that of (some of) our own.

^ You're gonna love this. This is what one Arab dude posted on the Al-Arabiya website in response to a news report about the ICU applying a form of Sharia to punish those accused of "bad" behavior. First the original Arabic then my translation of it: من اولى هؤلاء الجهلة وحوش مجاهل اÙريقيا وآكلة لحوم البشر تطبيق الشريعة ØŒ والعجب من معلق يقول انه تطبيق الشريعة السمحاء !!!!!!!! Ùأين السماح واين الرحمة اذا ما تولى الجهلة شؤون الاسلام ØŒ وليعلم هؤلا الÙاسقون ومن يؤيدهم ان من يحق له تقدير تطبيق الشريعة بحوهرها ووÙÙ‚ غاياتها السامية هم العلماء والمتعمقون ÙÙŠ الشرع وليس جهلة الصومال ØŒ Ùلا شك ان الشريعة التي يطبقوها هي شريعة الغاب وليس شريعة الاسلام ØŒ ونسأل بعد هذا لماذا يحتقر الغرب ديننا ونبينا وشعوبنا ؟؟؟؟؟ Ùاننا والله قد نصل الى زمن نخجل بالقول اننا مسلمون اذا بقي هؤلاء يستخدمون اسم الاسلام ويدعون انهم مسلمون ØŒ ÙليرÙع الغطاء الاسلامي عن هؤلاء المجرمين وليطلق عليهم اسم لا يمت الى الاسلام لانهم هم لا يمتون الى الاسلام بشيء ØŒ كما اقترح على الدول العربية ان تخرج الصومال من جامعتها ØŒ ولتعلن صراحة تبرؤها من هؤلاء ØŒ ليبقى الاسلام العربي عزيزا Ù‹ محترما Ù‹ لا يلوثه هؤلاء المرتزقة بسمومهم ولنميز اسلامنا الحقيقي عن اسلام هؤلاء المناÙقين ØŒ ولنتذكر ان نبينا كان عربيا Ù‹ وليس مغوليا Ù‹ اÙغانيا Ù‹ ولا زنجيا Ù‹ صوماليا Ù‹ Ùمن اولى واجباتنا نحن العرب احÙاد محمد ( ص) ان ننشر الاسلام الحقيقي لا ان نغض الطر٠كي نستورد ما يسمى زورا Ù‹ بالاسلام من طالبان ومحاكم تÙتيش الصومال ØŒ Ùليكن جواب الامة العربية لهؤلاء ` لكم اسلامكم ولي اسلامي ` Ùكما قيل ان الاسلام سينتهي كما بدأ غريبا Ù‹ ØŒ وهل اشد غربة وغرابة مما الحقه هؤلاء بالاسلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ وشكرا Ù‹ لرحابة صدر العربية .......... والسلام Who are these cannibal ignoramus of Africa to apply the Sharia law? And they even claim to apply forgiving Sharia??? Where is the mercy and where is the forgiveness when the ignorant have taken over the matters of Islam. And let these transgressors and their supporters know that only scholars who have studied jurisprudence in depth can apply the Sharia and not the ignorant of Somalia. There is no doubt the law they apply is that of the jungle and not the Sharia of Islam. And we wonder then why the West despises our religion, our prophet and our peoples. We could truly reach a time we are embarrassed to call ourselves Muslim if we allow these people to continue calling themselves Muslims and use the name of Islam. Let the cover of Islam be lifted from these criminals and let them be called a name that has no relation to Islam for they have no relation to Islam. And as was suggested to the Arab nations to kick Somalia out of their league and to disown them. And let Islam remain Arabic and honorable not soiled with the poison of these mercenaries. And let us distinguish our true Islam from the practice of these hypocrites. And let us remember that our prophet was an Arab and not a Mongolian Afghan or a Somali Negro. The greatest duty for us Arabs, the grandchildren of Muhammad (SCW), is to spread the true Islam and not get distracted while we import this forgery of Islam from the Taliban and these searching Courts of Somalia. Let the response of the nation to them be "to you your Islam and to us ours". As it was said Islam will start strange and end as it began, is there anything stranger or more foreign than what these groups have done to Islam? And we have one fool around here claiming he's more Arab than the Arabs themselves. :rolleyes: Al-Arabiya

Originally posted by Sharif_seylaci: Why would i present any thing to arabs its not like i need justification from them i know that i am more arab then them "More" Arab than Arabs? God save us.

Originally posted by General Duke: Why are the ancestral stories so similar? Brainwashing? It's because of the narrative. Somalis adopted Islam then adopted the Arabian story for its relationship with Islam. Simple, really.

Jimcaalow, stop listening to talk-radio. Every time I accidentally tune into one of those horrid stations during my daily commute, I feel sick the rest of the day. The amount of hate and ignorance spewed makes the KKK seem like a benevolent and wise organization. Avoid it like the plague atheer. Look for Pacifica stations instead. Xiin, the papacy in Catholicism is a ceremonial role. For all intents and purposes, the pope is as important as the Secretary General of the UN ( ). Just last week, "Benedict" was wisely speaking of secularism and the seeming loss of faith in rich countries. Not even a week later, he speaks out of his rear end. I didn't love him then and I don't hate him now. He's just irrelevant to my existence, as he should be. Edit: Frankly, it's not the pope but the hypocrites who speak of what a great religion Islam is and in the same day drop bombs on innocent Muslim women and children that infuriate me. You know, the ones that kill Muslims in the tens of thousands. The pope ain't our problem atheer.

Originally posted by -Serenity-: Layzie , of course it isnt a vitamin. I thought you were giving us facts here, not information from dodgy sources. She said "reliable" not dodgy. Can you read?

Originally posted by Nur: The more islam and prophet Muhammad's person is attacked by prominent Christians like the pope, the more converts islam gets from Christendom. How's that good Nur? Bal ii yara jilci kuma fahmine.

^ My "sharif": 9-10-11-12-13-14. :rolleyes: I done already told you to give it up dude. We don't give a shit.

^ Who cares if she can read. What I wanna know is where is abutaymiyyah?

Xiinow, give the ICU the two years the TFG has had. If they're as confused, incompetent and sharing a bed with the enemy as the TFG is now, they will have become the 4th or 5th group to do so in the past 15 years. The momentum is on their side now and, granted, their achievements are impressive. Though it is fair to mention at this point that our expectations have been lowered so much, just about any improvement in Somalia is impressive. Can the ICU keep this up for months or years to come? Will they top their achievements so far? Will they be uniters instead of "dividers" ( )? Can they transcend the clan nonsense and remain true to the platform (Islam) they arrived on? Who knows. But you're right, they'r definitely the new kids on the block and they're better than any we've had in decades. The TFG (at least in its current form) is on its way out and the ICU on its way in. Let's meet again in 2 years and revisit this. What are you doing fall of 2008? I'll be wondering which hawk-democrat will replace Dubya.

^ You deserve better atheer. This is second hand goods.

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached," Benedict quoted Manuel II. If Hirsi, Rushdie or Manji had said what the pope said, there would be renewed fatwas for their heads right about now. Can you say boycott the Vatican?

Originally posted by Khalaf: why do those who deny God when life is all good, call out for Gods help when things turn bad? Can u answer that? Hedging.

Originally posted by Sharif_seylaci: Imam mahdi what shiica say he is the mising imam Dude, give it up. Even if what you're saying is true, no one here cares much. You'll still be treated like dirt simply because you're a Somali now. You may have been noble in the past but, like everyone else, you ain't shit now.

Originally posted by ibtisam: ^^^what to you castor and What, what jim :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I don't know which one of you is worse. I don't get it. IF you are not interested move on, why do you have to post stupi*d replies. :confused: Move over please :cool: I'll stop posting stubidh replies to your posts when you stop calling me castor.

^ What was that about badhar breath? LOL.

Originally posted by sheherazade: Will you marry me? Only if you're ready, willing and able to double up. ^that you can't think of a third means something. Mwahaha. I'm simple.

Originally posted by sheherazade: Why is it only one or the other? What third option exists? I would ask a man to marry me. Hmmm. Have you ever?

^ Thanks. I was eating my lunch leftovers and was so glad to see your name on the forum only to have difficulty swalloing my goat meat and rice. Must you be so graphic, woman? :mad: