Originally posted by Socod_badne: I though I replied to this thread. Where's my reply? Socod_badne, ka soco. Do you have a picture of your favorite Somali warlord? Post it here. Randomly. Whenever you have nothing to say on the topic, post the picture. It seems to work for others. There's no reason why it shouldn't work for you. Here's my favorite:

Facts & figures... real massacres. LOOOOL.

Noble indeed. This is referring to the major Puntland clan: Dood dheer iyo falanqayn kadib waxay isku afgarteen in aan laga aamusnaan karin fal gaboodka iyo xasuuqa ay ka geysanayaan magaalada Muqdisho ciidamada cadawga ee ETHIOPIA & damiirlawayaasha u adeega. I always had a hunch that the Generale was more of a mutation than the norm. This is indeed a blow to anyone who supports the puppet regime. Not in our name, they said loud and clear. Waxaan u tacsiyeynaynaa dadkii Soomaliyeed ee lagu xasuuqay magaalada Muqdisho & kuwii ku barakacay & kuwii ku dhawacmay. Waxaan si cad uga soo horjeednaa sida xaqdarada ah ee gumeystaha ugu soo duulay dalkeena. Waxaan ugu baaqeynaa ummada Soomaliyeed in si wadajir ah dalka & diinta loo difaaco, lagana qayb galo dagaalka looga xoreynaayo dalka gumeystaha & u adeegayaashiisa. Waxaan ugu baaqeynaa dhalinyarada walaalaheena ay soo qaldeen damiirlawayaasha Tigreega u adeega inay ka baxaan dagaalka lagu xasuuqaayo walaalahayaga Soomaliyeed, ayna la saftaan xoogaga difaaca dalka ee halganka ka wada magaalada Muqdisho iyo dhamaan dalka. Waxaan ugu baaqeynaa ciidamada gumeysiga Ethopia ee sida sharcidarada ah u soo galay dalkeena inay si dag dag ah oo aan shuruudi ku xirneyd uga baxaan Soomaaliya. Waxaan cambaareyneynaa xasuuqii iyo duqeyntii ay u geysteen diyaaradaha Mareykanka, Ethiopia & Kenya dadka Soomaliyeed ee ku dhaqan gobalka J/HOOSE. Waxaan garab taagan nahay walaalaheena Soomaliyeed ee halganka kula jira ciidanka cadawga ah ee dalka ku soo duulay. Waxaan beesha caalamka ugu baaqeynaa inay soo faragaliyaan mashaakilka ka taagan Soomaliya,ayna si dag dag ah gurmad bini aadanimo ahna la garaan dadka lagu xasuuqa magaalada Muqdisho,iyo kuwa soo barakacay ee ku nool gudaha dalka ee dhibaateysan ee aan heysan nolol iyo nabad. Waxaan si cad uga soo horjeednaa qabsashada ciidamada cadawga ee qabsaday dalkeena guud ahaan min Raaskambooni ilaa Loowyacade. Waxaan si buuxda kalsoonida uga la noqonay oo aan horeyna u diidnay dowlad ku sheega naxashka saran ee ku timid gacan ku rimiska cadawgeena ETHIOPIA IYO KENYA, si dalka loogu qabsado damiirlawayaal u adeega oo muuqa ka ah Soomali balse fulinaaya danaha cadawga uu ka lee yahay dalka , dadka iyo diinta. Bravo.

Prisoners of war are to be treated humanely. Even if they acted as animals towards us, we must take the high road and show them we're above their inhumanity.

^^^^ No, it's because unlike their cousins in the Northeast and the Northwest, they're not subservient to master Meles. Of course, I'm talking leaderships here and not the people. The latter are, for the most part, all the same wherever they are: easily manipulated, ignorant and helpless.

Mogadishu 'is real hell' 21/04/2007 22:29 - (SA) Mogadishu - Mortar shells and machine gun clashes between Ethiopian soldiers and Islamist insurgents killed at least 55 civilians on Saturday and swelled the exodus from the Somali capital. Renewed fighting that has convulsed Mogadishu has now claimed at least 168 lives since Wednesday, according to a human rights group that tracks casualty figures. Residents predicted the civilian toll would rise as many people were believed to have died in areas now cut off by the fighting. Four days of fighting early this month killed at least 1 000 civilians. The Ethiopian army fire mortar and rocket rounds from the presidential palace in southern Mogadishu at several rebel hideouts, sparking a volley of retaliatory fire from insurgents, residents said. "As of this evening, we have 55 people confirmed killed. But this is not the final figure, there are areas that we have not visited," said Sudan Ali Ahmed, chairperson of the Elman Peace and Human Rights Organisation. The organisation has collated casualty figures from hospitals, other humanitarian groups and bodies left in the streets. He said there was also a "very high" number of wounded. "What we are seeing in Mogadishu is unspeakable, unbelievable ... it is real hell." Witnesses said several dismembered bodies were strewn in the battle zone. Islamist insurgents and some clan warlords have vowed to oust the Ethiopians who helped Somalia's UN-backed government in January to expel the Somali Council of Islamic Courts from Mogadishu. The rivals exchanged heavy machinegun fire in several neighbourhoods, where insurgents in modified pick-up trucks and Ethiopian tanks made deadly forays accompanied by reckless shooting. News 24

By Sahal Abdulle in Mogadishu Published: 22 April 2007 Shells pounded Somalia's capital, Mogadishu, yesterday, killing at least 73 people to swell a death-toll already in the hundreds after battles pitting militias and Islamists against Somali and Ethiopian troops. The escalating war has also sent more than 321,000 residents fleeing in the biggest refugee movement in Somalia since the 1991 fall of a dictator ushered in 16 years of anarchy. The UN and aid agencies say the exodus is creating a humanitarian catastrophe, with diseases already spreading. "I counted 20 dead in the street and on the pavement. Some were missing heads, others were so mutilated you couldn't tell if they were men or women," Suleman Mohammed said from the Al Barakah market area, where more than seven mortars landed. Residents and medical staff confirmed a minimum of 73 casualties from the incessant shelling and gunfire across the city, adding to an estimated 131 others from the previous three days' violence. The week's final death toll is expected to soar, and may come close to the estimated 1,000 casualties from a similar four-day flare-up at the end of March. Most of the victims are civilians. (Reuters) Independent

Any update on the reconciliation conference announced for April 16, then moved to May 16, then to June 16? It might as well be canceled. lol. Who in their right mind today would want to be seen shaking hands or even be in the same room with the chief collaborator, the wild dog yeey? The clans to be reconciled have declared war on the fake and puppet regime and, therefore, there's really nothing to reconcile.

Somalia nears brink of catastrophe, UN warns Geneva -- A humanitarian catastrophe is looming in Somalia unless heavy fighting subsides and access to aid is opened up, especially around the capital of Mogadishu, a United Nations official said yesterday. Eric Laroche, the UN's humanitarian co-ordinator in Somalia, told journalists that relief deliveries to thousands of displaced people were being blocked by government forces, UN aircraft were being shot at, corpses were lying in the streets of the capital, a cholera or diarrhea epidemic is taking hold and new flooding is likely to occur soon. AFP Globe and Mail

Fri. April 20, 2007 04:13 am.- By David Odoki. - (SomaliNet) The United Nations has raised concern over Somali government forces and their Ethiopian backers whom it says are hindering United Nations relief efforts in the East African nation, the U.N.’s humanitarian coordinator for Somalia said Thursday. Staffs are being detained and aid shipments are prevented from reaching their destination because of roadblocks, threats and continued fighting, Eric Laroche told reporters. Somalia’s Interior Minister Mohamed Mohamud Guled said that the U.N. has not informed them of their concerns, but, "It is our duty to monitor for security reasons all humanitarian aid." Laroche said that more than a dozen U.N. agencies are working to help the hundreds of thousands of people affected by continued fighting between Somali troops backed by Ethiopian forces and remnants of the country’s ousted Islamic movement. "We have to have access to our warehouses. We have to have access without being blocked by the Ethiopian forces or the TFG (Transitional Federal Government) forces," Laroche said. Some 218,000 people have fled their homes and many more rely on relief groups for basic needs, but aid workers are unable to reach up to 100,000 people.(AP) SomaliNet

^^^^ Somaliland, and its supporters, have absolutely no moral ground to judge anyone on their support for the puppet Tigrey Formed Government. None. Nada. Zilch. The same Tigrey who are responsible for the current existence of Somaliland are the ones who are shelling Muqdisho. And, if you forgot, Riyaale visited Adis Ababa only a few weeks ago to get his own instructions on how to behave. So spare us the sanctimony atheer.

Even with the firepower of 20,000 Ethiopian mercenaries, US funding and logistical support, the puppet regime is still reduced to celebrating the temporary control of a soccer stadium, a couple of intersections and a pasta factory in the northern part of a city. A grand total of 2 square miles. looool. Diminished expectations? Long live the resistance and the new Daraawiish.

Originally posted by Garaad Caanood: castro I hope that your uncle waf waf learned some valuable lessons from the defeat of his clan militia when he escaped to Hergeysa in less than 5 minutes, Saving his live, and live of his fake wasiiro and militia, and you should as well learn I've already denounced my "uncle" for being a coward and a collaborator (a.k.a. dabodhilif). Among the many things he's guilty of, he is guilty of not denouncing the ongoing ethnic cleansing in Muqdisho. For that I hope he rots in hell. Now the question to you is, are you capable of denouncing any collaborators you may have in your apple tree? Even more importantly, do you understand what a collaborator is and how one acquires such a title? You are proud enough of the 'Garaad' heritage to use that as a monicker, can you name one Garaad that has denounced the indiscriminate Ethiopian shelling or the puppetry of the chief collaborator Yeey? Originally posted by AAliyah416: We are not going to support one tribe state, Somaliland. We are promoting somaliweyn. SOMALIA HANOOLAATO!!! Wa salaamu alaikum Take your blinders off for a moment and tell me what the difference between Somaliland and Puntland is? One tribe state kulahaa. Can you not see Somaliland is just as worthless and as rotten as Putland when both are puppets of the Ethiopians indiscriminately shelling the very Somaliweyn you claim to promote? Wa qabiil calaykum to you too.

I know it feels like an eternity but if you thought the ICU lasted only 6 months, the coward yeey and his cabal have lasted even less. The TFG is no more. Not since the end of January have they had any peace to walk around and have photo ops. When was the last time you seen any pictures of the puppet "president" in Muqdisho? No more sunshine for that coward. All he's trying to do now is to stay alive and the Ethiopians entrusted to protect him are in dire need of protection themselves. I wouldn't be so numb if I were you.

Originally posted by Paragon: Bloody hell. You are gloating over this while hundreds of Somalis are dying as we speak! Have you no bloody conscience? He may not have or need a conscience (or a brain for that matter) but he does have a clan.

Simpletons and sophists alike, at home or abroad, this malaise afflicting Somalis has a long way to go before it is cured.

The so called "clean up" of Muqdisho has done just that: upwards of 320,000 people dislocated (largest since Afweyne's ouster), thousands killed or injured, entire sections of the city bombed flat. It was difficult to imagine how Muqdisho, a city already destroyed from years of anarchy, can be leveled even more. And yet today, this very forum has more posts on "Somaliland", "Puntland" and other god forsaken clan obsessions than on the Ethiopian invasion and the ethnic cleansing being perpetrated by the wretched TFG. Uff! Why, you should ask yourself, should the international community give a damn about Somalis when they themselves care not for their own?

Somalia Seized with Stasis The conflict in Somalia is seized with a tense stasis, as domestic and external actors are trapped in the consequences of decisions that have brought about the present and unintended configuration of power and interest. Having engineered the conventional military defeat of the I.C.C., Addis Ababa and Washington now face a militant Islamist insurgency, an overt ****** opposition and an I.C.C. political wing backed by Eritrea. The T.F.G. remains weak and unpopular, the Europeans are becoming disenchanted with the T.F.G., Uganda is out on a limb, Kenya is out of action, potential contributors to AMISOM are lying back, and the regional and international players are divided on the definition of reconciliation and the advisability of an Ethiopian withdrawal. There are no honest brokers -- every actor is compromised -- and the domestic players will only pursue reconciliation on their respective terms. That Addis Ababa and the T.F.G. attempted forced disarmament testifies to the deterioration of their positions. That their effort failed reveals both the deep cleavages in Somalia's political community and a broad support of resistance against foreign occupation. The stasis that has followed the two waves of armed conflict in Mogadishu is tense and precarious. When the actors in a conflict are frozen into hostile positions, one of them eventually makes a move to break out with unforeseen consequences. Although it is impossible to forecast when the next big move will come and who will make it, it is clear that the twin pillars of the Western powers' policy -- "genuine" reconciliation backed by military protection of the T.F.G. by AMISOM -- are crumbling. Yet without those supports, the Western powers -- now more divided than before -- face a policy void, leaving Somalia to continue to devolve and fragment, and regional actors backed into corners of their own making. Read PINR's analysis here

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^^^ Of course it's bull if it contradicts the house of cards reality you live under.

^^^ Of course he blamed the US bombing on Turki and his "terrorists". And he blames the Ethiopian invasion on Turki and his "terrorists". And if Turki was his clansmen, he would have blamed everything on the rain (and some terrorists). Do you see a trend there yaa Abu Geeljire?

^^^ Take it up with the Associated Press and cry me a river while you do that. Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^The tanks and the armour from Ethiopia was nothing compared to the Eritrean, oromo and outside support for the courts, thus the truth is that one ally defeated another. And you've the nerve to call anyone a liar.

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Just how much more inept and more cowardly can these buffoons get? Two killed at Somali pro-peacekeeper rally KISMAYO, Somalia (AP) -- Two people were killed after an explosion hit a rally in support of foreign peacekeepers, prompting government troops to fire into a crowd of thousands, witnesses said. It wasn't immediately clear if the explosion or the shooting caused the two deaths. Somalia's army chief, who attended the rally, was injured. Thousands had marched through Kismayo, 260 miles southwest of the capital, Mogadishu, to support a proposed peacekeeping mission for Somalia. "Somali people need the help of Africans," they chanted. "Somalia's stability needs to be restored." The crowd then gathered at the city's Freedom Park. An explosion went off as Army Chief Gen. Abdi Mahdi was to address the crowd; it was not immediately clear what caused the blast. Government troops fired into the crowd, then opened fire on the streets of Kismayo, but it was not clear who they were targeting. Ethiopian and Somali government troops sealed off the park after the explosion. An Associated Press reporter saw two dead at Freedom Park and counted at least 16 wounded people at Kismayo's general hospital. The army chief was among the wounded, said Col. Abdirazaq Af Gudud, a senior army official who did not take part in the rally. Five other officials also were injured. It was not immediately clear how serious their injuries were. Kismayo, Somalia's third-largest city, was the last major city held by the radical Islamic movement that took over much of the country's south last year before being forced out by Ethiopian forces and Somali government troops in January. The African Union has proposed a peacekeeping mission to help Somalia's struggling transitional government stabilize Somalia, particularly after Ethiopia withdraws its forces. The Islamic movement, which still has support in Mogadishu, has vowed to wage an Iraq-style insurgency. Attacks in the capital have occurred almost daily during the past month. Late Saturday, troops fought unknown gunmen at a key government building in Mogadishu, said witness Mohamed Iyow Gedi. Five people were wounded, staff at Medina Hospital said. The fighting involved heavy machine-gun fire and rockets, said Gedi, who lives nearby. Earlier Saturday, two areas of Mogadishu were hit by mortar attacks that killed at least five people and wounded 10, witnesses said. Deputy Defense Minister Salad Ali Jelle said the attacks was the work of remnants of the Islamic movement. AP via CNN

What a sorry waste of talent Canada, as we've all proudly proclaimed for years, is a land of opportunity. A nation of prosperity. But it turns out we have to put an asterisk next to all of the above. Shockingly, according to a report released recently by Statistics Canada , life for newcomers to our land is getting tougher, not easier. Immigrants arrive on our shores filled with hopes for a better life but find themselves shut out of jobs and incomes that many other Canadians take for granted. All too often they're denied opportunities in the very fields for which they trained in their countries of origin. As a result we have doctors driving cabs, engineers cleaning floors, teachers working retail. In 1980, low-income rates for immigrants in the country for five years or less were 1.4 times higher than those of the Canadian-born. In 1990, they were 2.1 times higher, in 2000 they were 2.5 times higher and in 2004 they were 2.7 times higher, the StatsCan report says. In 1992, StatsCan says, 17% of immigrants entered the country with degrees. Twelve years later that had grown to 45%. Yet in 2004, low-income rates among immigrants during their first full year were about 3.4 times higher than that of people born in Canada. Consider the case of Hamdi Mohamed, who fled Somalia and came to Canada as a refugee with her mother in 1989. A trained high school teacher with a degree in history and literature, her skills weren't recognized in Canada and the only work she could find was as a dishwasher. Now, at 42, she's executive director of Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization (OCISO), helping ensure others don't face experiences similar to hers. But we can't leave the work up to ad hoc groups like hers. It's unconscionable that immigrants with so much to offer are being marginalized while professional fields here in Canada cry out for skilled workers. We need to find ways to fast track the qualification process to determine whether the training that newcomers bring with them measures up to our country's own exacting standards and then either get them working or provide the additional skills required. To do anything less is unfair both to the immigrants and to Canada. Winnipeg Sun