^^^^ I hear you saaxib. Did you read this part of the article? Underscoring the difficulties, the same day the agreement was signed a senior militia official, Sheik Hassan Qoryoley, denounced it, saying there had not been enough consultation. He objected to a section that called for integrating the group's fighters into government forces. Señor Qoryooley will soon flex his muscles and swear to fight the kaafir TFG and the murtad Ahlul Sunna. lol.

The report was commissioned by the Security Council as part of an effort to monitor an arms embargo on Somalia and other issues related to peace and security. In 2006, the same monitoring group said that hundreds of Somali jihadists traveled to Lebanon to fight alongside Hezbollah, a claim that was widely dismissed as fiction. Nuff said.

“If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck”

Obama is a neocon.

Originally posted by Maaddeey: ^waa la qabtay nooh So if he wasn't caught, it's OK? I say deport his behind. He probably has a false asylum claim too coming from the Netherlands. lol. Originally posted by Karl_Polanyi: walal, go on the run and stay underground in different london mosques. ps. just pay the fine and act like a good lad. i got fined last time, but 20 pound on the spot and that was the end of that. of course i didn't have a granny pass.lol. loooooool

^^^^ Fifteen years ago I wrongly predicted that by 2010, Somalia would be at peace, have a stable economy and be well on its way to resurrecting the nation. I am fairly certain now that another 15 years will have to go by before we see anything that resembles my first prediction. Quality of leadership is of utmost importance at this stage. And it's precisely because of the caliber of these leaders (which you're trying to play down) that we are in this predicament. They are either short-sighted, clan-minded, ignorant, uneducated, greedy, turncoats or mad mullahs. One could probably argue these traits reflect the populations they lead.

Not since the early 80's has it been this "bad" between the two allies. But they'll kiss and make up. And there's no sex like make-up sex. lol.

Originally posted by Valenteenah.: What bad luck (and how funny, being caught with a Freedon Pass! Ha ha ha). Bad luck? lol. What does luck have to do with this, atheer?

A dog and pony show. Not only will the US do nothing about this, it will provide the grants, loans and even the Caterpillars to build these settlements in East Jerusalem.

^^^^ Perhaps saying the whole Puntland government is a generalization. How about the leadership? You do see my point though. This ship has too many holes to sail.

^^^ My objection is unimportant so I won't even make it. How long do you think before a group within Ahlul Sunna will splinter off and either join the Shabaab or go on their own? Just look at the landscape we have in our "beloved" country: TFG: Incompetence redefined Ahlul Sunna: Opportunistic clansmen Shabaab: Suicidal maniacs Puntland government: Organized criminals Somaliland government: Puppet separatists This is the stuff nightmares are made of.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Analysts say Ahlu-sunah Wal-jamea militants have long enjoyed Ethiopian support, receiving money and weapons in return for trying to stop Somali Islamists from crossing the long, porous border into Ethiopia, where ethnically Somali rebels are fighting against Ethiopia’s government. AP The TFG has also "long enjoyed Ethiopian support, receiving money and weapons". Xiin, this looks more like Ethiopia consolidating its proxies than Somalis making peace. No?

Where is the UN "report" on the black hole known as the TFG where tens of millions of dollars have disappeared without a trace?

Originally posted by The Zack: ^Sorry Yaa murtad, Somalia is a Muslim nation and yes the scholars' fatwa will always be respected. Somalia is a clan nation and no 1-800-BUY-A-FATWA will solve its problems.

Originally posted by Aaliyah416: All our loving garaads want is their regions. It is really that simple. Anyone who wants to complicate the issue just wants pointless argument... salaam Loving garaads? Did you mean to say wise garaads? Or brave garaads? You need to show the separatists a lean, mean, fighting garaad. No one would give up land to a loving garaad. Be the mukulaal mininkeedi joogta not like the folks in Awdal.

Originally posted by General Duke: Castro is a Somaliweyn soldier for that, we must give him respect. The secessionist argument is only paraded by one clan group, even in SOL, Qhalib, JB, NGOONGE and others are all from a single family. Thus the argument is no more than clan ego. Thus converting people to moron will not do. Generale, I think you're mistaken about NGONGE. He never made it a secret that he has both flags under his mattress. His argument has always been he would pull out the flag of Somalia if it achieves peace before Somaliland achieves recognition. And vice versa. Not very principled (;p) but quite practical, in my view. It's the die-hard separatists like Oodwyene that should be of concern. The rest of the so called separatist lot would run home to Casa populare and the houses they grew up in the minute Al-Shabaab vacate them. lol.

Where is the release from the UN that says it is null and void? Other than what Inner City Press (wha?) and Somalitalk are saying, this seems to be a fly-by-night "news" item. Furthermore, what power does the Somali parliament have to rule over these matters? Shouldn't it be adjudicated by some world body? Finally, where is the Somali parliament and when did this "rejection vote" occur? To anyone who believes this story, I have a bridge for sale in Tuur Qaylo.

Where is the release from the UN that says it is null and void? Other than what Inner City Press (wha?) and Somalitalk are saying, this seems to be a fly-by-night "news" item. Furthermore, what power does the Somali parliament have to rule over these matters? Shouldn't it be adjudicated by some world body? Finally, where is the Somali parliament and when did this "rejection vote" occur? To anyone who believes this story, I have a bridge for sale in Tuur Qaylo.

^^^ You didn't read the fine print dude. And nice going getting Chocolate & Honey hot and bothered. lol.

This is stuff and nonsense. Shame on you ailamos for airing the private details of your friends' lives. Got any pictures of the couple? I could use a Swedish minyaro.

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: In many ways the voice of somali unity is done a disservice by Awdalities who despite being known for their staunch Somalinimo, preferred to go silent and take their role in this skit of dowladnimo just because Rayaale in power. When they stand up and say no to this clanish separatism, along with SSC and Salal region -and let us not forget there are lots of unionists in the Berbera-Hargeisa-Burco triangle- the whole dream will be untenable. Two things explain this, I believe, the rabid SNM next door and Somalinimo that is still on life support after 20 years. The SNM knows all too well that Somaliland is mostly a joke outside of Burco, Berbera and Hargeisa. And don't forget, the people everywhere are sheep, including the ones in Borama who would fall for Riyaale being a president of a nonentity. Clan is everything in Somalia, unfortunately. Originally posted by Qhalib: quote:Originally posted by Castro: quote: Originally posted by Qhalib: We are still brothers of the same ethnic grouping, hence Despite our difference, I do hope very much that can still connect us. :cool: That goes for all Somalis, atheer, from Saylac to Ras Kamboni. And if you can't see that, I feel sorry for you. Oh yeah! I'm glad you caught on. Next time think about that first before you tell people to leave SOL. ps. Don't feel anything for me, I'm not gay. You'll notice many of those who support Somaliland have stopped coming here or at least stopped the silly notion of pushing it on this forum. Only a few (of lower caliber) remain and at least one of them is outright insane. lol.

Originally posted by Qhalib: We are still brothers of the same ethnic grouping, hence Despite our difference, I do hope very much that can still connect us. :cool: That goes for all Somalis, atheer, from Saylac to Ras Kamboni. And if you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

God bless Amy Goodman.

Originally posted by Qhalib: castro is from Awdal in my understanding, markaa he is also somalilander whether he will admit or not. lol. I'm from Xamar, atheer, born and raised (by way of Tuur Qaylo ) Forgive me, I've no idea where you're from.

A civil war wax laysku caayo ma aha; they are the growing pains of nations. You need not harp about the relative, yet easily ignite-able, peace Somalia has in the north east or the north west. Both regions are a stone's throw away from conflict at any moment, god forbid. And just as peace will eventually come to the south, inshallah, so too will recognition elude the angry child of Somalia.