^^^^ And you do? Won't you tell us where the funds for Amoud University come from? And to someone whose loved ones where killed by the SNM, they're murderous. You should know, your whole case for secession is based on the murderous Afweyne regime.

Nothing funnier than reading exchanges between collaborator-cheerleaders and secessionists. Dameer: donkey Dhago: ears Take your pick boys.

^^^^ Specially in the politics section atheer. You know, the one that got separated from the herd.

What purpose does SOL serve for you? A convenient, one-stop shop to evaluate potential minyaros located over several continents.

Originally posted by dhulQarnayn: So in a nutshell, we need to find solutions to our civil strife by not suggesting to further expand the arena of conflict, i.e dragging Puntland into the mess in south Somalia , but rather work towards bringing Somalis together to fix our problems through non-violence. There's no dragging Puntland into anything. It already made its bed by sending its scarce military resources to the South to fight alongside the Ethiopians. Invading it is certainly justified from a military, if not a moral, point of view. Still, the majority of Puntlanders, sans the wicked collaborator few, are against this occupation. Very little good can come from such an invasion.

He died fighting for a good cause. May Allah forgive his sins and grant him Jannah.

Originally posted by CinnamonBark: I'm sixteen. Awesome. You're twice the legal limit. Come to papi.

I don't like where this thread is going. Baashi, Kashafa, shaydaanka iska naara. No good will come out of this.

^^^ Dabshid plays just as well with balls or with mitts.

Originally posted by Dabshid: Welcome to SOL, Lab or Dhadig? 'orny ba$tard! Dabshid, sing with me. Ah me so 'orny, ah, ah, me so 'orny Me love you long time lol

^^^^ Adiga laftaada ***** ah. Somalia will never be free till the likes of you are sent packing. [ July 03, 2008, 05:46 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by General Duke: Castro et al I do fear the Ethiopians I guess you've overcome that fear now. "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones." Let me not mince words here. Either you were perpetrating a fraud then (July 2006) or you are perpetrating a fraud now (July 2008). Which is it, awoowe?

Originally posted by General Duke: I understood the argument for peace keepers but a full invasion by Ethiopia is nonsical, who will get them out? I fear these Ethioians much more than any Somali, warlord or wadaad.. If this happens the TFG is finished Duke,July 19th 2006 The thoroughbreds my boy. Have no fear. They have your honor and ours in their hands. Long live the resistance.

^ Don't mention it.

^^^ Some crazy person on SOL might turn that killer quote of Duke into a signature.

^^^^ Just pointing out how poorly it was written yaa Sophist. The "establishment paper" ought to know better as this article seemed more like a tabloid trying to convince the commoners. Anyhow, I'm out to protect the gallery from the assault on their senses and sensibilities.

^^^ The (wannabe) state of Somaliland, like any other state, is an amoral entity. It will do business with whomever it believes will help it achieve its goals. Think the Gulf states versus Iraq and the US invasions (Gulf Wars I and II). Some Gulf states, despite the overwhelming opposition of their populations, made their collaboration with the invasion quite public. From allowing the use of their air bases, their air space to even housing troops, and providing supply lines all televised on CNN. Djibouti openly houses a US base from which aircraft take off to bomb Southern Somalia. Somaliland* should receive no more or less condemnation if it is proven they are indeed providing the Ethiopians with access to the port of Berbera for armament supply lines But there's no proof of your claim. I know because I made the same claim only to find little evidence to support it. Make no mistake about it, however, I still feel there's something going on in Berbera. I just can't prove it, so I stopped making that claim. We have to make a distinction between the actions/statements of the state and those of laymen who are in support of a state. LANDER, not unlike Duke, is keepin' it real and going out on a limb in defense of the state. If (or when) the day comes and you have irrefutable evidence Somaliland helps Ethiopia militarily, he may do the Duke and deny it anyway. * It is an unrecognized state but it behaves, and should be referred to, as a state. P.S. Ceyrow Jr., you're fast becoming a polarizing pest not to mention getting on my last nerve.

Originally posted by General Duke: Mr Castro, you are a Riyaale supporter and a secessionist sympathizer. Oye Vey!® In your world, Duke, everyone must support their "atheer", rightly or wrongly. Fortunately, I don't live in your world. In fact, I'm donating my atheer to you. You can now have two dab0dh!li!f atheers. This is lively conversation. Do go on lads. A little bit of Mira would have made it even more interesting.

^^^^ Dude, I mean Duke, take a chill pill atheer. Don't make this into yet another mud-slinging topic. Ayoub, I don't know what I want Somalilanders to do. May be stop blaming all Somalis for what Siyaad Barre did. And may be work in getting Somaliland (the area) to be a leader of Somalia again and forget this secession. And may be, just may be, stick around and help us get rid of Ethiopia and the collaborators. I can only dream, right?

^^^^ Come on brother, can I not be as genuine in rejecting secession as you are in advocating for it. Must we always doubt each other?

Originally posted by Oodweyne: Namely, do you, firstly , really belief that Somaliland is in the business of hoping that the Ethiopian’s regime will recognised her; as you alleged in your thesis that is in here. Yes, Mr. Oodweyne. I do. In fact, I further believe Somaliland hopes that any country, however small or distant, will recognize her. Even if it's Palau. A precedent is what Somaliland needs. Any precedent. We're only talking of Ethiopia here because of obvious reasons: shared borders, the occupation, it being the largest country of the Horn, it's the current seat of the AU, etc.....

Originally posted by AYOUB: Castro This deliberate playing to the gallery has lost its novelty. Give it a rest. Rayaale might be an embarrassment but you're over doing it. This whole forum is for the gallery, atheer. You should pay attention. Also, Riyaale is more of an embarrassment to you than me. And if I were playing the clan card like you are, I'd have said Riyaale got you people under control. But I won't. Now, kindly, answer the question or step aside for someone with bigger cojones.

^^^^ I know your fingers are tired from writing in that other thread. Northerner, yes it is a question saaxib. Collaborators want Ethiopia to reward them with power over all Somalis. Secessionists need recognition from Ethiopia to separate them from other Somalis. Denouncing Ethiopia and its plans for the Horn and simultaneously needing it for secession cannot coexist. Both groups need Ethiopia for slightly different and completely selfish reasons. Neither can speak on behalf of the greater good for Somalis. I'd say this is a clear case of same shit, different rear end. Wouldn't you say?

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^^^^ This is was stunning to read. Completely counter intuitive. The most recent comprehensive study on the emotional state of those with kids shows us that the term "bundle of joy" may not be the most accurate way to describe our offspring. "Parents experience lower levels of emotional well-being, less frequent positive emotions and more frequent negative emotions than their childless peers," says Florida State University's Robin Simon, a sociology professor who's conducted several recent parenting studies, the most thorough of which came out in 2005 and looked at data gathered from 13,000 Americans by the National Survey of Families and Households. "In fact, no group of parents—married, single, step or even empty nest—reported significantly greater emotional well-being than people who never had children. It's such a counterintuitive finding because we have these cultural beliefs that children are the key to happiness and a healthy life, and they're not." Simon received plenty of hate mail in response to her research ("Obviously Professor Simon hates her kids," read one), which isn't surprising. Her findings shake the very foundation of what we've been raised to believe is true. In a recent NEWSWEEK Poll, 50 percent of Americans said that adding new children to the family tends to increase happiness levels. Only one in six (16 percent) said that adding new children had a negative effect on the parents' happiness. But which parent is willing to admit that the greatest gift life has to offer has in fact made his or her life less enjoyable? Parents may openly lament their lack of sleep, hectic schedules and difficulty in dealing with their surly teens, but rarely will they cop to feeling depressed due to the everyday rigors of child rearing. "If you admit that kids and parenthood aren't making you happy, it's basically blasphemy," says Jen Singer, a stay-at-home mother of two from New Jersey who runs the popular parenting blog MommaSaid.net. "From baby-lotion commercials that make motherhood look happy and well rested, to commercials for Disney World where you're supposed to feel like a kid because you're there with your kids, we've made parenthood out to be one blissful moment after another, and it's disappointing when you find out it's not."