Originally posted by Yoonis_Cadue: I'd rather starve and die in a muslim country than to loose my religion. Hurry up and leave then. Time is running out. Your odds of losing your religion in the west are lower than those in a muslim country. But your odds of starving are obviously higher there than here. Your call.

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^ I'm past the acceptance phase, dear. We're in full embrace right about now.

Originally posted by nabadshe: what would you call this a sign of givng in or what? Nabadshe, you've given us two options to pick from: 1) "a sign of giving in" and 2) "what". Atheer, what (or who) is being given in to? And what is a "what"? Omar Jamal seems to be a bright dude. A little on the convservative side, I must say. Are you insinuating he's giving in to America? The neo-cons? Come on, you gotta do better than posing non-questions and expecting answers.

^ I've finally come to embrace my Arabic side, saaxib. It wasn't easy. I don't think Rudy will mind the hijacking of his thread seeing that Mutakalim dropped a cluster bomb on the Thanksgiving festivities.

^ Waryaa you're cruisin' for a bruisin' today, huh? Watch out, you might just get it.

^ No Nigerians or South Africans? ولا تصدق بما البرهان يبطله ÙتستÙيد من التصديق تكذيبا "Do not believe that which could be proven false, lest you benefit a falsehood from the proof" Abul Alaa Al-Ma'ari. Was that close, chief? Drop a "haughty" one on me.

^ I agree Brown. That all male section is totally gay (and the "bun" is intended!) :cool: Jumatatu, don't feel left out. We can have a group hug. Now those I really like. I'm in such trolling mood today.

^ I offer you the coveted and highly sought position of being Halimo #2 of senor Castro. It is an enviable position to be in. If you act now, you're assured there will be no #3 (for a while). This is a time limited offer. Act now! Whadya say, dahlin'?

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: ^^Ha igu xaman afka qalaad, adeer! Spoken like a true man of God.

^ ضرب الحبيب مثل اكل الزبيب

^ 10-4. For the love of God, please don't put me and Alle-ubaahne in the same sentence. I have allergies.

^ Own camels? Dude, he discovered camels. Come here coz. I keep finding long lost cousins online.

^ We must be related then, JB, coz my great, great, great grand father started the whole Somali movement thing.

^ I didn't mean to offend you, atheer. But that statement of yours gives me this mental image of a couple of fat ladies watching a wrestling match on tv and talking about how they'd do things differently. That's all. Originally posted by Curling Waterfall: I meant I see no problems with the practice. Later in the same breath: Originally posted by Curling Waterfall: … so its not an option I even consider Need I say more atheer?

Originally posted by axmed_fiqi: My advice to the somalis in soomaligalbeed is stop being clanist, And have Faith in god. That's funny. Asking a Somali to give up clannism is like asking a fat person to give up eating. Atheer, get real. It'll never happen.

Since we're in the singing mood, here's one of my favorite Bob Marley songs: Until the philosophy which hold one race superior And another Inferior Is finally And permanently Discredited And abandoned - Everywhere is war - Me say war. That until there no longer First class and second class citizens of any nation Until the colour of a man's skin Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes - Me say war. That until the basic human rights Are equally guaranteed to all, Without regard to race - Dis a war. That until that day The dream of lasting peace, World citizenship Rule of international morality Will remain in but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, But never attained - Now everywhere is war - war. And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, In Mozambique, South Africa Sub-human bondage Have been toppled, Utterly destroyed - Well, everywhere is war - Me say war. War in the east, War in the west, War up north, War down south - War - war - Rumours of war. And until that day, The African continent Will not know peace, We Africans will fight - we find it necessary - And we know we shall win As we are confident In the victory Of good over evil - Good over evil, yeah! Good over evil - Good over evil, yeah! Good over evil - Good over evil, yeah!

Now that we have employed a marine mercenary group, we need a land one too. If we follow the TFG's argument to its local conclusion, the only way to rid ourselves of land based and sea based thugs, is to have top notch trained killers for hire. Now Blackwater is not looking so far fetched after all, is it? You can call me a visionary if you like. Food for thought.

Originally posted by The Flipmode..: No man enough would aspire to beat his wife..a lovely wife that is... So if the wife is not "lovely" she should be beaten? Surely that's not what you meant. Now smile. Then raise both your arms.

Originally posted by Curling Waterfall: Polygamy isnt all crossed out in my books. With the right circumstances (religiously) fulfilled and the dignity of the parties involved preserved... I see no problems with it. The greatest lie ever told? Fornication is a lesser sin then a lie according to a hadeeth by our Messenger Muhammad SAWS. Where is that hadeeth?

^ Not to mention those who speak broken english will always sound like they had a stroke.

^ Atheer, criminals back home or in Bradford are still criminals. The fact that they're Somali means nothing to me. If these guys who were arrested are not the killers then they're quite stup!d for befriending the killers, at best. At worst, they're criminals in the making. Either way, I shed no tear for them nor do I see them in a more positive light just because they're Somalis. Capisce? And cut the crap about Cuba. Work on that caps lock key on your keyboard. :rolleyes:

I'll be damned if I live in that rubbish again.

^ Culture may have bad aspects, it can't be entirely bad. Are you saying ignorance of Islam and a patriarchal social system have combined into a deadly dish for women? Or are you saying the rights and freedoms given to women in Islam are overshadowed by those given to men? Finally, could you be saying religions, such as Islam, are incapable of really changing the attitudes and customs of people developed over millennia?

For a few hundred years, the history of Somalia was the history of tribes in Somalia. Unless we're going to name them with numbers, and as mentioned before, it is the policy of SOL to have no name of a clan or tribe to be mentioned. This constraint is in effect regardless of the situation the name is being used. In other words, there's no "educational" use of a clan name. On the other hand, what will the "sources" for this history be? One quick read in the politics section and you realize how disagreements on the simplest events (even recent ones) causes uproar. There's no recorded history of Somalia. Not even now is it being recorded. If you're able to address these issues, it would be a positive addition to this site. Certainly more appropriate than a Men's section.