^ Bashir Goth is onto something here. An earnest plea to reason indeed. NGONGE would love reading this.

^ Well saaxib what I tried (and apparently failed) to say with those two lines is the route brother Asxabul-kahf took is the path of least resistence. The one were blanket and vague calls to the return to the faith make the caller feel good, and the callee, you in my case, feel bad. That's why I lambasted him earlier today. It's a brilliant strategy really, much like the phrase "War on terror". Never defined yet oft repeated. I hope you didn't think I was questioning your faith. And you're right, if there are any answers coming, they won't be from our esteemed brother. We'll see.

^ Comprehension, good NGONGE, comprehension. I made no effort to make it subtle by the way. Let's see what brother Asxabul-kahf has to say to your questions.

^ And you expect to receive answers to these pressing, pertinent, and profoundly important questions of yours? :rolleyes: War NGONGOW, Ilaahay ka baq oo "diinta u soo noqo". Adiga iyo wixii kula midah ayaa maanta Muslinka dhulka dhigaye.

^ Is that a riddle? I'm clueless here. Callypso, I hear you loud and clear atheer.

Originally posted by Asxabul_kahf: We know the kufars are so big into this that they worship money and everything that this dunya has to offer. Also Muslims are weak today because they got so attached to the dunya that they fear anyone who can take it away or ruin their comfortable living. Ok Mr. Caveman, since when did Islam encourage being poor, living in discomfort or not working to earn money? what is the reason for our existence? The purpose of our life? when we understand this, alot of things will be clear. It is to worship Allah alone and follow his commandments. Indeed, our raison d'etre as Muslims is to worship the almighty but working and living is also worship. But I see you're looking down on everyone from your comfortable couch in Minnesota. Rap on brother, rap on.

^ Why don't you slit his throat? :rolleyes:

Why are these b@stards so fat while hundreds of thousands are starving?? Why are they either laughing all the way home or arguing about petty nonsense of were to make the seat of this phantom fcuking "government"? Allah must be extremely unhappy with us to give us these fools as leaders. Frankly, they could all be hit by lightening and most people would never notice. Their absence could never be any worse than their presence.

Originally posted by Khayr: If all that is posted about Muslims and Muslim nations is UGLINESS, day after day, month after month, year after year....then how in the world can you FIND BEAUTY in ISLAM? :confused: Check this ugliness out, right out of this article: The soldiers kicked and trod on pregnant women, children and old men who could not move. They also put women and their babies before water hoses and poured cold water on them. And this: The woman continued: “I fell down and the soldiers dragged me to a nearby building under construction. Several of them began raping me brutally. Some tread on my hands with their heavy leather boots, another pulled my hair, while others raped me. Aan u ceeb-qarino our fellow Muslim Yemeni soldiers. Is that it Khayr? We can protest the bloody Danes but we should cover for these brutal b@stards. Of course, they're our brothers in Islam. Their ugliness should not be reported as it might take away from the beauty of Islam. You're a millimeter away from sounding as asinine as Yonis Qutb.

^ Cut it out. Originally posted by Suldaan Awad: I've just 'heard', that the taliban are stocking up 100 kg of 'diamond' or 'gold', to give to anyone who 'kills' the cartoonists who has depicted our prophet peace be upon him. So, one carat of diamond is 0.2 grams. You have 100 kg of diamonds so that's 100,000 grams(or 500,000 carats). At even a paltry $500 per carat, you're looking at $250,000,000. Two hundred and fifty million dollars. Saaxib, for that kinda money, I'd kill the editor, the cartoonist, the janitor, innocent bystanders, you and your entire family. Do I sound ridiculous? Exactly. As NGONGE said, cut the nonsense ninyahow. It's not good for you or for us.

^ I do bemoan the system saaxib but I'm not sure if the reason is not my natural inclination to be cheap. You could say everyday is like Valentine's day at our home. We do buy chocolate when we crave it. Seafood? About 4 times a week. Cards and flowers, please? We're married. Ceeb. Ah a student. Ramen noodles, cheap laundry detergent and riding metro to the airport. You must have saved up all term for this all-you-can-eat shrimp thingy. Enjoy. And marry the woman. Let her make an honest man out of you.

Conservative? Maya atheer. I'm still a liberal. Originally posted by NGONGE: allow the storm of your rage to subside. Rage? At who or what? I've reflected enough on this but let's see if I have the desire to return.

^ At least they're waiting on something. What are we waiting on? Malak-ul-mowt? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Callypso: <--Going to Red Lobster with baby, bought card and flowers and yes a watch Red Lobster? You cheap bast@rd! Flowers and a watch kulaha. So if the flowers won't cut it, bring out the big gun? A watch? :rolleyes: Valentine is for suckers.

^ Blessed, them grazing rights are in real danger now. Sheh waa laysku layn bay ila tahay. Ruuxii rooni reerka (sheh) ha u hadho.

^ Bisinka.

^ It's sex. Money comes and goes but when sex goes, it's time to go. And why would you attend an all day seminar on divorce? Getting ready? LOL. Ahura, you're right, Fartun is an optimist. And that makes you a realist?

^ Hmmm. I'll have you know that that's not the only thing that ..... Hey, sentiment about marriage changes with time. I'll talk to you again in a few months. I'd not be surprised if you're doing a cartwheel. You know, doing the Fartun.

^ What is the leading cause of divorce? Marriage. No other factor is common to all divorcees. Ahura, do tell.

^ It's not 50% but neither is it at the bottom. I'd say it's the third or fourth reason after money, immaturity, personality/family compatability. Google it.

^ Wrong. 50% of divorces are due to sex.

^ Take the high road saaxib. It's paved.

^ It is an important message. Originally posted by Kooleey: If you've been living with a familiy of 5 or more (typical somalis) and learnt how to adapt and get along with everyone's different personalities, needs, wants than how hard is to get along with a husband/wife? It's because you don't sleep with the other family members. Most people don't, anyway.

An excellent and a must see video. I had no idea this was happening in my own back yard. MashaAllah.

So a little patronizing gets you out of your comfortable posture, good NGONGE. And the last time I checked, muggers of old ladies are caught, tried and thrown in jail. Never have I seen a shame-a-mugger parade in my life. And I'm not patronizing you now. I can't bloody guarantee what Muslims will do and you know that. I should neither be held hostage to that and accept every bloody insult in the off chance a Muslim will blow something up in the future. You're energizing me again. If Westeners move en masse to Islamic countries (as we have to the west) they will then have to figure a way out of the issues they may face there. For now, that's not the case and the mess that is the Middle East is not what this is about. That (yet to be introduced) laws would or would not work is a matter for speculation, saaxib. Laws are tested by practice and precedence not speculation and guesswork. Where these laws exist today, they work just fine. Edited: NGONGE, saaxib, is it not ironic that those who were actually bombed (the U.S., U.K. and Spain) chose not to print these cartoons and pip-squeaks Denmark and Norway flaunted them with cries of free speech? Be careful not to decend down the slippery argument the U.S., U.K. and Spain are exercising restraint for political, face saving, reasons as they have (very recently) invaded Muslim lands.