Salaan... Certain folks from a certain region are quick to lament, in most of the time, about suffering from under the hands of their "southern" brethren. But at the same time are mute when it comes to talk about the disproportionate suffering the people in the South experienced. However, why are they mute? Because the victims aren't from their qabiil? Or they aren't that important? Or are less than the sufferings of others? It is about time to see OTHERS who suffered twice under no absolute mercy whatsoever. My God, these are wrapped bodies A child in Baydhabo Comforting both her dying husband and her undernourished child Some of the folks who did this are currently in Nairobi, feeling no guilty whatsoever. Others under six feet. I do not like to post topics like this, but those who are keen only to show justification of their "suffering" should also know greater affliction and misery others had experienced--and experiencing. Keep tragic events in perspective.

Salaan... A very provocative and informing, yet intertaining documentary had been a most-discussed topic on the media in the last couple months in Canada. I watched half of the documentary and I gotta tell you, it was a very powerful presentation of facts. It is called The Corporation It mercilessly takes shots at the core corporate values. From corporate's aggressive pursuit of profit to endless quest of being influencial in power and elitism. It also interviews the heavy leftists such as Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore and Naomi Klein {the author of NoLogo} Some instructions from the documentary: In law, the corporation is a "person." But what kind of person is it? Considering the odd legal fiction that deems a corporation a “person” in the eyes of the law, the feature documentary employs a checklist, based on actual diagnostic criteria of the World Health Organization and DSM IV, the standard tool of psychiatrists and psychologists. What emerges is a disturbing diagnosis. By using that World Health Organization technique, the documentary thus analyzes and comes up with this checklist: Therefore most corporations are pyschopaths. _____________ This documentary had given me a whole point of new look at corporations. From Microsoft to Barakaat. I better have to start joining the anarchy groups of anti-everything, err anti-globalization.

Salaan... Yet Timacade resigned from Parlaiment because he saw it for what it was, and guess who was the Speaker at the time????? So, what are you trying to say? You are getting closer, saaxiib. Anyway, am I biased? You bet! But my inclining to 1960s has nothing to do with qabiil, but based on mostly the great Soomaali siyaasi men shined in that decade. Those three men HASSAN JAMA wanted us to choose from are three ****** whom will only be remembered by there own kinsmen and not on a NATIONAL LEVEL That was what I was trying to illuminate. Soomaali folks sometimes are obsessively blinded by qabiil to the extent of justifying the actions committed by some so-called leaders, because only belonging same clan as they do. I do also have the utmost respect to the likes of Max'ed Abshir and C/risaaq Xaaji Xuseen. Well, my friend, Somaliland had its own freedom fighters... if you are saying they are of lesser status then your [southern] politicians... please come forward. For your information, the brief names I mentioned above among were Sayidka Max'ed C/lle Xasan and Muuse Rabiile, and to me they were "Notherners." Or if your ideal defination of "Soomaalileen" is a person who hails from one qabiil-identity, then try to change that name of "Soomaalileen." Then again, if it makes you happy, hokey the likes of Cumar Carte Qaalib, Max'uud Mire Muuse and Cabdalle Faadil were GREAT. Happy now??? ______________ Libaax, the "old man" didn't let us taste the sweet malab, but it is good to know he was great, dankis.

Salaan... Poll: Greatest SOMALI Politician of 20th Century? Question 1 of 1 Choose 1 Maxamed Haji Ibraahim Cigaal Maxamed Siyaad Barre Maxamed Farah Aideed Are you fascinated by them all having with the first name "Max'ed?" None of them were "great" politicians, let alone being the greatest. A "great" politician, to me, is a one being so popular that is equally loved by his people. None of them you listed above come close to that. If you want "great" Soomaali siyaasi men that can be at least contemplated to be great, mention the likes of Max'ed C/lle Xasan {yes, he lived in the 20th century}, founders of SYL, Aadan Cadde, C/rashiid Cali Sharmaarke, C/llaahi Ciise, C/qaadir Soobe, even Ismaaciil Jimcaale, Muuse Rabiile or even Maxamed Raajis, but surely not those you listed above. Being famous should not be equated being great. Macsalaama.

Salaan... So if I understand correctly your ideal Muslim man should eventually come to this: long-bearded {gardheere}, khamiis-wearing, cadeey-in-the-jeeb-ready-to-be-used-right-into-salaad, surwaal-gaab, every-sentence-starting-yaa-ukhtii/akhii, staying-late-at-the-masaajid-to-have-sheeko-sheeko,-but-not-helping-at-home... Am I right into that? You also expect us to be in uniformity when it comes to tiniest absolute details of life. Diinta Islaanka xoog maku dhisno, saaxiib. Ninkii Muslim kugu dhaho in uu yahay, qof ka bixin karo maleh diinta, qofkaas iyo Ilaahigiis ee jirtaa. Walaa Salafi/Itixaad, walaa Islaax, ninkii Quraankiis iyo rasuulkiis iyo xadiiskiis raaco, kheyr waaye. Ninba naftiis, nabiyoow ummadaa.

Xariifka iga koreeyo: She didn't ask you to name your favourite dish or garment. She wants to know the equivalent of Soomaali Viagra. I think you misunderstood what she meant by "aphrodisiac." A subtle euphemism phrase for foods, drugs or even clothes that stimulate sexually arousing feelings. Well, in my opinion for garments, it is when my kinda girl wears a thin bright multi-coloured dirac {without the garbasaar is bonus}.

Salaan... Ilaahey aa mahad leh maxaa yeeley waligeey Washamsi ma la igu qaadin--aabaheey aa Quraanka noo dhigi jiray. We younger boys ma naloo ogoleyn dugsi Quraan because--and this was alleged--when the older sisters and brothers used to go to this particular dugsi Quraan an unfortunate incident happened. This macalin dugsi refused to allow this kid to go to musqul; he suspected the kid was lying and wanted to skip that day's dugsi. Unfortunately, the kid really needed a relief. Cunugii kaadida uu isku celiye and for the fear of macalinka, dugsiga dhexdiid maku dhex kaadin karin. Markuu dugsigii dhamaaday waxaa la arkay cunugii oo dhidid miiran. Ileen siduu kaadida iskugu celinaaye ayaa kaadida ku dhagtay. Dhakab. :mad: Cunugii isbitaal aa loola orday, saas uuna ku fakaday. When my aabo heard the episode, he really got enraged and vowed never to allow his children to attend any dugsi--he would instead be the macalin himself at home. Macsalaama.

Salaan... Don't you have their names? Ironically you stated their tribe, but not their individual names or family's. Most ciyaal xamar--when xamar was Xamar--never knew other ciyaal's qabiil, or at least necessarily knew the people's names before qabiil.

Salaan... Originally posted by bulo: i do not follow any madhab... I assume that you are a sister. So, what do you do when you pray? Do you cover your toes as Soomaali women do? Say you are married and your husband is gone missing, how long would you wait to remain in the marriage fold? Does your weeso become void by touching your husband? Again, would you re-do your weeso if you change your baby's diaper? If you vomit, is your weeso still valid? If you eat camel meat, do you do weeso all over again? Do you pray four rakaco after the first aadan at Jimco prayer at the masaajid? At the masaajid you go to communal Jimco prayer, is there one or two aadan? These are a tip of iceberg when it comes to know who follows whose madba. And it is not that easy to declare outright you don't follow any madba. Soomaali people do inherently follow Shaafici madba, even if you may not realize that. Shaafici madba have been said to be the most "moderate" madba of them all. Malaysia, Indonesia, Masar, Sudaan and Soomaaliya are the main countries that follow Imaam Shaafici madba collectively. Macsalaama.

Salaan... Little facts about Baydhabo Janaay and its vicinity before it became known as "City of Death" in early '90s. Produced the only international renown Soomaali author, Nuuradiin Faarax Its nearby town also produced one of the best Soomaali singers, Xasan Aadan Samatar, who was born in Diinsoor, Baay Was mainly one of few multi-qabiil cities around Soomaaliya, only Muqdisho and Kismaayo surpassed in that category. The only Soomaali city visited by a sitting or retired American president. George Bush Sr visited it briefly in 1992. Visited by Mary Robinson, former President of the Republic of Ireland. The gobol it located used to produce almost two-thirds of masago or maize in all Soomaali regions {ironically, with this natural food gift, I wonder how it even can became a city of starving}. Like Xamar, Baydhabo waala xumeeyi yaa xaal marinaayo. Macsalaama.

Salaan... ^^^Same like that; with all these fake smiles and misleading the hapless Soomaali people. Macsalaama.

Salaan... Originally posted by Danger: Admin i dont see any clan names at all wher are they Macalinka, it was edited by the Admin. after it was posted and before you had a chance to view. [ February 23, 2004, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Admin ] Jaaw.

Salaan... Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: ...Just because we in the western countries HAVE it does not mean we WANT to keep people who do not work and have to be subsidised. No offense meant but why should we? Your problems are not our problems. We???? Our??? Who are you??? Paul Martin's daughter? Jean Chretein's daughter-in-law??? "We" don't accept refugees kulahaa. Ilaahey caadil waaye dadka qaarkoodna waa iska hadlaan, bilaa caleeg. Soomaali mar horee ku maah maahday: Daanyeer dabadiyee ma arigaasoo dabi dadoow ki diimaas. Jaaw.

Salaan... A rather great, nice article to read; however at this moment it also has downside. No wonder the governments in some of Western countries are trying to deport a lot of Soomaali people only because they read articles like this. There are also those afar-jeebliyaal who under the garment of being "official" from some regions of the country tell those countries that the country, or some part of it, is safe to return. No wonder we're finally seeing its implemention by Holland, New Zealand, Australia and Scandinavian countries wanting to deport Soomaali asylum seekers.

Salaan... Tan qabsada, koleey sida aan u maqlay lee waaye. ________________ Xariifkoo baadiye ku noolaan jiray aa maalin jimce eh masaajidka aaday, oona kusoo toosay oo wali ay khudbadii jimcaha socoto, wuxuu meel ka yara fog ku arkay nin ay is yaqaaneen oo isagana xariif kale oo reer baadiye ah kaasoo waliba aad u oynaayey oo fiq...fiq...fiq suu iskugu waday ka dhamaatay. Markii salaada dhamaatay ayuu wuxuu u yimid ninkii ooynaayey isaga oo aad ula yaabanaa waxa uu ninkaa la ooynaayey sababtoo ah ninka af Carabiga ma uusan garaneynin oo si fiican bey isku yaqaaneen, khudbadana Carabi ee ku socotay. Fiidoow: Ar Jimcaale, xaad la fiqleeynee, ma af Carbigaad taqaanaa? Jimcaale: Aryaa shub iga dheh! Fiidoow: Ii sheeg hee, shub waaba dhahayee. Jimcaale: Aryaa wadaadka garkiisa ma u jeeday? Fiidoow: Xawlahaay, gar dheeroow lahaaye. Jimcaale: Aryaa garkiisa orgi shil hore iga lumoow u ekaay! _______________ Hada kahor aa oday indhoole eh oona waayeel eh guursaday gabar yar. Maalinta guurka ka bacdi ee ku tiri odaygii, "Haddaad ogaanlahayd caddaantayda, quruxdayda, suuradeyda iyo qaab-dhismeedka jirkayga waad yaabi lahayd nasiibkaa igu heshay." Odayga aa u jawaabay, wuxuu ku dhahay: "Haddeey arrintu sidaas tahay dhalinyarada indhaha qabta iigama kaa tageen." _______________ Ilaahoow na cafi.

Salaan... Originally posted by nafta: ...i had this conversation with couple of African girls about Africa and ones culture, so to make a long thing short, one of the girls said that they didnt consider us Somalians as African. She said that because we don't have, and i quote "the nigger nose" or the "the jareer hair" They are slightly right. First, they are a bit confused about the difference between being an "African" and being among with "black race." But first, what and who is African? Is being an African synonymous with being skin-coloured black? Is an African in fact inseparable from a black-coloured person? In a way, a lot of Soomaalis themselves do not consider to be African or associate themselves with the black race. First, because some assumption--or rather misassumption--of African itself being synonymous with "black," hence "jareer" and "boon." Even if some Soomaalis are dark as dhuxul. Soomaali people equate black person to be "jareer." In order to distance themselves from jareer or black, they rather would not even want to do anything remotely that is African, even if Soomaaliya is located in the African continent. Then again, if Soomaali people never cared, these words might have never been everyday Soomaali vernacular: boon, bilis, jareer, nasab, laandheere, etc. Those insulting words are exclusively called to those people Soomaalis consider to be non-Soomaali original, and who have distinct facial features, with jareer hair. A simple fact: Xabasho from Itoobiya are considered to be jareer, while Oromos and Tigreys from Itoobiya too aren't. Some Soomaali people say if we are talking about geographical sense, yes then Soomaaliya the country is classified with the African continent. However, they also ask, would the whites from South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia considered to be African in the black sense? Is Egyptian an African? A Moroccan? An Algerian? Is a Berber an African? Many of those Egyptians, Moroccans, Tunisians do not either consider themselves to be African in black sense. I don't even know whether Tigreys, Oromos and Cafars themselves consider to be African either. Some of the "Carab" Sudanese do not consider themselves to be African in the black sense, just same mentality like Soomaalis. I know, it is a bit complicated. And it sure will be as long as African and black can be assumed to be synonymous. Recently, a lot of people who grew up in Western countries are extremely aware the political correctness and say loudly they are "black, African" with an attitude of who-cares and whatever. But back home, Soomaalis do still classify with boon and bilis formula. Even if a "real" Soomaali looks like a jareer, he is still nasab and not "black." And if you want to know my personal opinion of who I consider to be myself, that is easy. I am Soomaali in first, second, and third senses. That is my ten taano.

Salaan... Intaa jacbursado waa kuwanaa, ama luuqad or lahjado: Wan faan kuulo e finili butaano Kuweendha saako, kumaa maa... Yaa ximaar kalab fiya wasaq yacni kamaa washensi Kuuntadaa buufkeed u sheeg waraa Bilis dukoowti Boon aa in ekaadas, Boon dukoowina bahalaa in ekadeeh

________________ I much applaud Max'ed Siyaad Barre for resisting the idea to put his picture on official currencies and honouring everyday working people; besides also honouring our country's landmarks by imprinting them on some of legal tenders. And if you tilted or looked from a light reflection, every currency note has a hidden Sayid Maxamed C/lle Xasan's passport-like picture. I only realized this recently.

Salaan... Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Nice one, I wonder has anyone got pics of the Somali shilling notes its been a long time since Ive seen them, or any old stamps. Lacagteena markee qiimaha lahayd: From Shan Shilin to Kun Shilin.

Salaan... "Wardrobe malfunction." Quite an ingenious excuse. It will be a superb cliche in the upcoming years. Next time I see my jean's "jiinyeer" unzipped in public or if my macawiis falls in public, it would both be excused as "wardrobe malfunction."

Salaan... As the wonderful, the one and the only Careys Ciise wrote and chanted Hooyadu Waa Lama Huraan wax kale aan dhahno majirto ka ahayn saarkiisa: Hagaag waa loo socdaa, Hor waa loo sii hoydaa, Hadal waa la hindisaa, Mudaan uurka hurudnoo, culeys beey hayn jirtoo, Xannuun beey la hingatee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Habeen goor uu bartamay, Caanihii beey nagu habtoo, Horaadkeey noo dhigtoo, Dharkii beey na huwisaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Calooshaadoon hif oran, Adiga oon ka haqab bi'in, Hunguri ma haweeysatee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Habaaq goor aad tahoo, Talaabta aan la holi karin, Adoo ciidii hambaday, Dhaqsaba waa ku hinjisaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Afka aan ku hadalniyo, Hannaan-keeniyo hub qaad, Hagaag beey noo bartaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Innaga oon heybad qabin, Hal beeso aan suubsan karin, Habaaskeey naga huftoo, Waa tii noo hiilisaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Si eeynaan halis u galin, Hungurigeey suubisaa, Dhaqsaba hoo nama dhahdee, Intii eey ka hubsataa, Iyada ayaa ku hormartee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Reerku haduu yahay hayaan, Hayinka aan saaran nahay, Hogaankeey heeysatoo, Hoos beey kaala hadashoo, Intii aad ka hurudaa, Waa kuu heestaa hadana--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Cilmiga shiikh ku hormariyo, nin haamaan ahiyo hanad, Iyadaa soo heeyn jirtee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Haddii loo baahdo hiil, Geesiga loo habar wacdiyo, Fulayga aan haadka hubin, Iyadaa soo heyn jirtee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Deeqsi aad soo heybsatoo, Hamuuntii kaa ba'shiyo, Bakhayl aan kula hadleyn, Iyadaa soo heyn jirtee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Aabuhu waa howsha guud, Iyana hoos beey hayaan, Habantii guriga iyo Hooygii beey noo huftaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Geed yare kaa hooshey meel, Hadii aad haa dhahdaa Hubkii beey ka hindadoo, Iyada oon hagar laheyn, Haaw waa tii soo dhahdee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Odagu waa haajiraa, Hawuu meel ugu kacaa, Haduusan mowdku helin, Hortaadeey taagan tehee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Habeenkaad soo dhexdaa, Hurdada aad uma heshoo, Qalbiga waa ka hamidoo, Hiloow beey kuu qabtaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Horrey adigoon aheyn, Dadkii beey u hanjabtoo, Halyeey beey kaa dhigtoo, Amaan beey ku huwisaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Abaarta hawaarastiyo, Haraad meel loogu go'ay, Heeyhaata uu dhaanku yahay, Cirkuna haawanahayaa, Halihi eey soo heshaa, Hadeey hoo` ina dhehdaa, Inaga oon soo hambeyn, Waatii aan heensanoo, Hamuunteedii horiyo, Dhab beey la hagoogataye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Sidii awr haama wada, Dusheedaan halabsanoo, Haah goortaa nama dhahdee, Waa noo sii hoorsataye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Marada eey nagu hantiday, Hadaan hoos oga dhacnaa, Wadnihii bey ka hinqatoo, Caloosheey ka halcataye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Alaabta horteeda taal, Haddaad laad ku hurguftaa, Habaar weyn kuma dhahdee, Inyar beey ka hifataye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Hiloowlaha eey dhashaa, Haddii meel laga hayaa, Asuu haaraa habeen, Waatii hoogeeysatoo, Ilmadu eey hibitiqdee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Haddaan been lagu hadleyn, Wadnaha harkiisa iyo Halboowlaha dhiiga wada, Hareer baa laga dhigoo, Halkeey joogaan iyagu Yaa loosoo wada hoydaye--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Hantida aad leedihiyo, Wixii aad haabataba, Haddii loo siiyo hibo, Abaalkood lama helee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Haaddaadu hadeey gashaa, Hog goortii lagu dhigoo, Wadaadadu kula hadlaan, Aabaha looma hal-wecee, Waxaad tahay ina heblee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Aduunyadu waa haween, Halkaa leyskuma hayee, Nin doonaba ha hadlee--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hiirar gaagaaban iyo Hawada yaan ka hadlayaa, Waxba anigoon hambeyn, Hubaashiina aan hayaa--Hooyadu waa lama huraan, Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. Hunfada ruuxii noqdaa, Hawraar kaama hantiyee, Waxba anigoon haleyn, Hubaashiina aan hayaa--Hooyadu waa lama huraan. Hadii kale waxaan lahaa {Haaheey}. _______________ By listening his saar in his harmonious voice, beerla aa ku jilcaayo.

Salaan... Globalization on my true personal perspective. I was born in a Soomaali hospital built by Italians, delivered by a German doctor, using possibly Russian equipment, brought home in a French car Citroën. Moved to Kenya using an American plane, landed on an airport built by British; lived houses owned by Kenyans. Attending school teachered by Rwandans with Indian majority students. Came to America on a Dutch airplane via Amsterdam with Belgian hostesses. And finally into Canada drinking Tim Hortons. Jaaw.

Salaan... I hope you aren't tricking us to do your homework. Let me see. 1.) Vince Bevan, Ottawa's Police Chief, told a gun control conference that gun-owners are more likely to shoot themselves than others. {20 words} 2) Russia incarcerates 39 more people than United States every year. However, U.S. has 1.3 million prisoners, largest in the world. {20 words} 3) A strong earthquake on Southeast Lake Tahoe shook Northern California and West Nevada early yesterday morning. No heavy casualties were reported. {21 words} 4) A convenience store at Bank Street was robbed last night by an elderly woman; reasoning to feed her starving parentless grandchildren. {21 words} 5) Hundreds of disgruntled students, protesting against a new dress code by school, undressed at Woodroffe Avenue, causing a heavy traffic line-ups. {21 words} Jaaw.

Salaan... I'd lived that very racially polarized city of Baltimore for six months. On white areas, it is very beautiful, but the ghettoes? That is another story. There aren't many Soomaalis who live there, however some of those few who do are Soomaali Kenyaati. The only landmark that city can cherish is John Hopkins Hospital, a very famous state-of-the-art medical centre. There is no Soomaali maqaayad. No hanging out place for exclusively Soomaalis. In fact, Soomaalis from Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. itself go only to one maqaayad owned by Itoobiyaan located in Washington, D.C. Jaaw.

Salaan... The brown one from the left got a really nice voice. It can really sing. Bam Bam, Bam, Shiishiw, Shiishiw. And the opera-sounding yellow one from the right. What is its composition? Huuuuuh, Shalalalaaa, Huuuuuuuuuh, Shalalalaaa. Lovely. I think they can buraanbur. Or saar. Or shirib. Believe me, Baashi, they got voices much soother and better than some of current American singers. Jaaw.