Salaan... Waa naloo qabeeyi mar labaad. 2:0 aa nala siiye. Not bad. Next year it will be down to 1:0. I call that progress. Laakiin xiito-xiitiyaashaan oo baasto iyo malawax ku koray maa Gaanees canbuulo, digir iyo soor "ugali" la dhaho ku casheeyo, ku qadeeyo iyo ku quraacdo mee iska celin karaan? Plus kuwa ka ciyaaro xulalka caalamiga ee Talyaaniga iyo kuwa kale ee Yurub. Maya, maya. Xiito-xiitiyaasha waa dadaaleen, almost all of them positioning themselves around their goal-net--quite the first official team to have 11 goalkeepers. These are some of our national qaliir, xiito-xiito team, most belong one team called Elman: Soomaali hadaan nahnay dacaayad bilaa caleesh lee nagula yaqanaa ee hala amaano kartidee muujiyeen, Ilaaheyna ha u garabgalo dadaalkooda. _______________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Anigana tan ila arka, aqiyaarta. ___________________ Itoobiya fagaaradee ku heeso Soomaalida boqolaalkii sane ee u danbeeye: Sanadku makuu ahaa 1414 dhulka ay maanta degan yihiin dadka loo yaqaan Soomaali wuxuu ahaa mid aad u xoog badan waana isku xirnaa diin ahaan dhaqan ahaan waxaana hogaanka u haayay imaamyada, ugaasyada, salaadiinta iyo culima'udiinka, iwm. Waxaa dagal kusoo qaaday isla sanadkaas Xabashida waxaa dhacday in dhagta dhiiga loo daray waxaana loo gaystay qasaare xoog badan waxaana laga qabsaday dhul aad u balaaran. Sanadku markuu ahaa 1415 waxaa dhacay dagaal qabiileed oo aad u daba dheeraaday dhib xoog lehna gaystay, xabashidu waxay ku fakirtay inay ka fa'iidaysato waxayna soo qaaday dagaal culus waxayna dib u qabsatay dhulkili hore loo qabsaday waxayna ku darsatay dhul kale waxayna ku istaagtay Seylac. Waxaa dhacday inuu fakar dhasho, oo lagu fakiro sidii xabashida laysaga dhicin lahaa waxaa ugu horayntii lagu fakiray sidii dagaalka qabaa'ilka loo joojinlahaa, markii lagu gulaystay joojinta dagaalka qabaa'ilka waxaa lagu fakiray sidii ummuda ay kawada dhaxayso diinta kaliya sidii loo midayn lahaa waxaana la go'aamiyay in la bixiyo magac kawada dhexeeyo ummuda mid kawada dhiga dhamaantood si arinta qabiilka meel laysaga tuuro waxaana la bixiyey magaca maanta naloo yaqaan ee ah Soomaali waana laysku wada wafaqay intii u dhaxaysay 1415-1429 waxaana la bilaabay in dib laysugu ururiyo magacaas Xabashidana layska dhiciyo oo laga xureeyo dhulkii ay qabsatay. Intii u dhaxaysay 1506–1543 waxaa hogaamiyayasha ka mid ahaa oo qabtay hogaanka dagaalka Imaam Axmed Al Ghaasi {Axmed Gureey?} {allaha u naxariistee} waxaa suurto gashay in dib laysaga xureeyo Xabashida dhamaan dhulkii ay qabsatay laga soo celiyo waxaana laga sabarsiyay inay dagaal danbe ay ku fakirto wuxuuna fakirkii xabaashida usu rogay inay kaalmo waydiisato quwado kale ama heshiisyo sir ah ay lagasho si ay danaheeda ay u gaarto. Hogaamiyahii Talyaaniga ee lagu magacaabi jiray Okiyaale wuxuu heshiis sir ah lagalay sanadka markuu ahaa 1887 ibaradoorkii Xabashida ee Mililik isagoo sabab ka dhiganaayo dilkii la dilay sahmiyayaashii Talyaaniga ahaa ee sahminaayay dhulka Soomaalida waxaana lagu heshiiyay inuu Talyaaniga gacan ku sinaayo qabsashada magaalda Harar iyo dilka baqorkii dhinac ka xukumaayay Itoobiya ee ladhihi jiray (Jon), sanadku markuu ahaa 1888 waxaa ladilay boqorkii Jon, Mililik waxuu noqday midka kawada taliya dhulka Xabashida waxayna ku saaxibeen Talyaaninga. Itoobiya waxay hashiis sir ah la gashay Ingiriiska sanadku markuu ahaa 1897 wuxuuna heshiiskaas dhexmaray mas'uulkii Ingiriiska ee ladhihi jiray (Lord Raniil) iyo Ibradoor Mililik, waxaana lagu heshiiyay Ingiriiska inuu gacanta u galiyo dhulkii Soomaalida waxuuna ahaa dhulkaas Hawd, taasna markii ay Soomaalida ogaatay waa ay ka xumaatay waxaana kadhashay in la aas aaso jabhado xureen ah, waxaana kamid ahaa Darawiishta. Xabashida waxay ku gulaysatay inay Soomaalida ay galiso dagaal sedex gesood ah iyadana ay ka qab gasho dagaalkaas is ay Soomaalida u baaba'do guushana aay ku raacdo. Sanadku markuu ahaa 1920 waxaa istaagay kalmadii ay Soomaalidu kaheliysay Jarmalka iyo Turkiga waayo waxay galeen dagaal waana lagu jibiyay. Itoobiyana waxay noqotay mid ku ad kaato dagaalkaas Darawiishtana waxay noqotay mid aad u tarbar yar. Sanadku markuu 1934 Ingiriiska wuxuu kadalbay Itoobiya heshiis lagu calamadaynaayo xuduudaha , Ingiriiska wuxuu uga tanasulay Itoobiya dhulkii ay laheed Soomaalida isgoo ku raali garaynaayo xabishida talyaaniga isagoo aan raali ka aheen isagana waa uu ka tanasulay. ____________________ Masii wadi kariyee, ee meeshaan ka aqriso rafaadka ee Itoobiya ku heeso dhulka ee Soomaalida dagto __________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Originally posted by Ameenah: Somali Youth League were great men, fighting and gaining the independence of Somalia. So were members of the NUF (which coincidently no one seems to remember) who rigorously campaigned for the independence of British Somaliland and who later joined (quite willing if I may add) to the United Somalia. Aamina, walaashiis saa mooday ma'aha xaalada. While NUF {I don't know if this being the correct name} campaigned the freedom of British Soomaaliland, SYL was not limited to one region. While there were a lot of parties that represented clan-based regions in the south, SYL was not. True to their word, SYL was the only party that dreamed the creation of Soomaali Weyn; and it thus became effective, and had secret offices almost in all Soomaali lands, including British Soomaaliland, Soomaali Galbeed, Italian Soomaaliland; it even reached French Soomaaliland. It was this reason SYL got popular with Soomaalis, regardless of clan division. By the way, SYL got on its feet while the British were almost occupying the entire Soomaali lands, only Jabuuti was the exception at that time, because the Italians were defeated in W-W-II, including to lose the power-base of southern part and Soomaali Galbeed which they controlled to British army. Unlike their Italian counterpart, British tolerated and gave a limited power to locals; this had given rise to the creation of SYL. SYL might have been created while Talyaani was still in control, but it wasn't that visible and fletched. The independence of Somaliland was something that was decided later by the people of Sland and not the SNM for several reasons... one of the being the instability of the rest of Somalia at the time that it was formed. The volatility of Soomaaliya was not the main motive behind the secession of Somaliland in 1991. Soomaaliland was created, not on the instability of the rest of Soomaaliya, but as a result of their pure dissatisfaction with the very first conference held in Jabuuti back in early 1991. That quick-fix scheme conference was what brought overall explosive nature Soomaaliya state is found right now; first because it was a quick-way out, quick-solution conference, ignoring the facts of conflict. It was wrongly miscalculated, most delegates being members of Manifesto* group, electing one among them as president, Cali Mahdi Maxamed. And indeed, certain clans were shunned, among them Siyaad Barre’s clan. In that conference, Soomaaliland {led by ambitious, power-hungry individuals} wanted a greater share of power, including two equal powerful federal state regions, mainly consisting Soomaaliya and Soomaaliland, which was wholly rejected by the delegates. One reason being if Soomaaliya opted to have federal system, each region should get equal representatives, which the delegates of Soomaaliland did not like. _______________ * Manifesto consisted powerful individuals displeased with the culminative actions taken by Siyaad Barre's regime and signed a declaration with each person's name on; it was in late '89 and early '90. In the communiqué was that Maxamed Siyaad Barre must resign immediately and safe the Soomaali nation on the brink of civil explosion. Aw Siyaad's response?? To arrest all of them who confirmed their signatures immediately. But some feared and didn't aknowledge their signatures, among in this group was the late Raajis Maxamed Raajis and Cali Mahdi Maxamed, whom were both have been accorded to have said when the feared NSS came to them, "Aah, we never signed this proclamation. Where did you get it from?" Untrue to their hearts. ________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... While we are butchering, kidnapping and torturing one another back home, a worthy man is pedalling his bike around Africa to make more awareness the wretched and abysmal condition Soomaalis are in. This worthy man's name is Biiboow {Pippo}. He is half-Italian, half-Soomaali. Born in Kismaayo to a Soomaali mother and a Talyaani father. Calling his commendable tour Somalia Solidarity, him and his bike would travel around Africa solo, risking the unavoidable perils of vast continent of Africa. His journey will take place in Talyaaniga itself and Africa; started already in June of this year, according to his website Ilaahoow u gargaar, aamiin. __________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Let me give unauthorized advertisement for you London folks. London is great. Especially, its "cool" buses. _________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Originally posted by Shujui-1: i would be very grateful if u could find the time to transalte teh article MMA. Kaaba, let me see if I can try. Be warned though, I am not good at it. I will only translate the points I deem important, so I won't translate fully. I hope others would give you the full version. _______________ The negative aspects of qabiil {qabyaalad} can be influenced and be influenced by the following listed people: 1. A person who had been raised in hatred and negative aspects of qabiil. 2. An ignorant person who is insecure or lack confident about himself, like: People whose brains don't function much regarding about qabiil issues {fairly} and don't feel much confident about their own opinions. People who assume their own opinions are the least worth while compared to others. People who believe easily everything that had been told by a person who hails from their own tribe {unquestioned}. People who can be persuaded with useless, futile stories about qabiil. People who can't research the truth behind the stories they hear. A coward person who is afraid his formed opinion, which is different from his family's, might be ridiculed and mocked by his family. A person who believes he cannot live without qabiil identity. A person who believes he cannot get a secure job without qabiil {read corruption}. A person who occasionally is afraid if he does the right thing might be confronted by a lot of people {his qabiil's people, that is}. A person who lacks nationalism and whose top priority, boastfully, is his qabiil rather than his nation {in this age, which majority Soomaalis are}. 3. A criminal person who already committed felonies: An already soaked person doesn't care/mind about water {proverb}. Criminal wishes and likes to make everybody commit crimes. A criminal doesn't like if he is the only person hunted {likes company}. 4. A person whose knowledge of Islam and morality of humanity are minus scale. That person does: Makes sure qabiil comes first then his God {unbelievable, but true; to believe this, go to any Soomaali city now, and proclaim "Yaa Muslimiin!" Reaction? Nothing. In the same manner, say aloud, "Yaa Hebel ahoow...!" You will see a rush of that hebel's people asking you what do you need, etc}. Who wrongly interprets the Quraanka kariimka and the Prophet's hadiths {who falsely believe his life and incomes directly relate to his tribe. Recounts and recalls fabricated stories and proverbs {about the glorious of his qabiil}. 5. A crook person who eats and takes anything including haram, like: Shrewd politicians who always love to hold power Warlords Those who cheer and does what they do the two above-listed groups. 6. A person who does't have enough knowledge and expertise that can land him jobs. 7. People who work for foreigners/outsiders and who can't get enough popularity otherwise, like: To those who used to work for the colonialists and still work for them {the new ones}. To those who spy for the countries that traditionally dislike Soomaali/Soomaaliya. Used by those who hate the Islamic religion. 8. A person who habitually loves the wrongs of others and feels comfortable with, such as: Some of those people are mentally sick. Some of them enjoy others wrongs, such as rooting people's properties, raping women, etc {of course when against the enemies of their qabiil}. Some of them are used by devils and are the kinds Allah warned us in the Quraan. __________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Some deny they are 'qabiiliste,' while in fact all points indicate otherwise. Others hide behind the garment of regions. Some say we only "defend" our qabiilis interest and land, not that we initiate conflicts, while in fact that is not true. Well, anyway, the qabiilists cannot hide from the reality of this article and it fits and describes them well beyond. _______________ Qabyaalad waxaa lagu jiidan karaa waxna ku jiita dadkan hoos ku xusan: 1. Qof nacayb iyo qabyaalad lagu soo koriyey. 2. Qof maanagaab ah (low-level intelligence) oo kalsooni daro haysato sida: Dadka aan maskaxdooda kaga shaqeesan karin oo aan ku kalsoonayn fikradaha maskaxdooda ka soo go’a. Dadka u haysta inay fikradahooda ka liitaan fikradaha dadka kale. Dadka iska aamina wax kasta oo uu u sheego qof ay isku qabiil yihiin. Dadka laga dhaadhcin karo sheekooyinka halaasiga ah sida qabiilka iyo khuraafaadkiisa. Dadka aan baaritaan (research) sameen karin si ay u ogadaan xaqiiqda. Qof fuleey ah oo ka baqaya in reerkiisu ku qoslo hadii fikradiisu tooda ka duwanaato. Qof aaminsan inaanu noolaan karin qabiil la'aantii. Qof aamisan inaanu shaqo fiican heli karin qabyaalda la’aanteed. Qof sidiisaba ka baqa inuu waxa saxa ah sameeyo maadaama dad badani ay kugu kacayaan markaad waxa saxa ah sameesid. Qof aan wadaninimo lahayn oo qabiilkiisu wadanka kala weyn yahay. 3. Qof markii horena dhagarqabe ahaa oo dembiyo hore galay: Nin qoyani biyo iskama dhowro. Dhagarqabe dadkoo dhan inuu dembiile ka dhigo ayuu jecel yahay. Dhagarqabe in keligii la ugaarsado ma rabo. 4. Qof aan diinta Islaamka iyo akhlaaqda dadnimada wax ka aqoon. Qofkaasi wuxuu: Ilaahay kahor mariyaa qabiilkisa. Diinta ka jecel yahay qabiilka. Si khalad ah u tarjumaa aayadaha Ilaahay iyo axaadiista. Wuxuu aaminsan yahay in noloshiisa iyo risiqiisu ku xiran yahay qabbiilkiisa. Wuxuu cuskadaa sheekooyin iyo maahmaahyo been ah. 5. Qof tuug ah oo xaraanya cun ah sida: Siyaasiyiinta afar jeeblayaasha ah oo jecel inay had iyo jeer xukunka haystaan Warloodhiska (Dooxatada) Inta u camirta oo xaaraanta la cunta labada kooxood oo kor ku xusan. 6. Qof aan lahayn aqoon iyo xirfa kale oo uu ku shaqeesto. (Dadka noocan ah waxaa ku jira qaar khibrad dheer u leh sida dadka maskax dooris loogu sameeyo isla markaana dad badan haligay) 7. Dad u adeega dano shisheeye oo aan si kale taageero ku heli karin sida: Kuwii gumeysiga u adeegi jiray welina u adeega Kuwa u basaasa dowladaha neceb dadka/dalka Soomaliyeed. Kuwa ay ku shaqeestaan kuwa diinta Islaamka neceb. 8. Qof xumaanta iska jecel oo waxa xun ku istareexa, kala ah: Dadka noocan ah qaarkood way jiran yihiin oo cuduro maskxada ah ayaa haya, waxaase nasiib daran kuwa daba socda oo u haysta qof miyir qaba. Qaarkoodan xumaanta ayay wax ka helaan sida xoolo la bililiqeestay, dumar la kufsado, iwm. Qaarkoodna sheydhaan ayaa ku adeegta oo waa nooca Ilaahay diinta inoogu sheegay. _________________ Waxaa qore Heybe Yuusuf oo kamid ah siduu u dhigay urur la yiraahdo Soomaalida Qabyaalada Neceb.

Salaan... Sophist, macaleesh. I wrote my brother, not 'maadar.' Ilbuun ma noqotay mise ilweershe, maraxaa taacun. Haa nooh, waa is yareynaa, ma maseeree adiga? Wah, aniga markii tuuji ku fadhiye adiga gaalaa baadiye busteeda ku raaci jirtay. Ereyga "gaal" yaa ku baraayo hee, hal gaal lee taqanaa micnihiis. Baashi weydii hakuu fasiree micnaha kale ee "gaal" laga wado. Soon aboosto waaye, markii Xamdi Rest. ka cunaayana iskaabulo maa imooday. (waxaa laga yaabaa inaaney gaal jaceel aanay ka aheyn ee dariiqo ahaan uu udiidayay Sayidka-- Sayidku Ahlu Suna Wal Jamaaca ayuu ahaa ninkaa nina Qaadiriya Suufiya ayuu ahaa) Sophist, saaxiib, all suufis are or identify themselves Sunni, which in turn belong ahlul sunna wa jameeca. And back in the days, Soomaalis identified themselves with three powerful competing Suufi orders, namely Qaadiriya {which Sheekh Aweys belonged}, Saalixiya {which the Sayidka belonged}, and Axmediya, the least powerful. Qaadiriya and Saalixiya were on their throats when the Talyaaniga, Ingiriiska and Faransiiska came to colonize. Entre., macalinka aniga markee imaato sheekhyaasha wax ku saabsan eber aa ka ahay, especially those national figures, including Sheekh Xasan Barsame. Wax aan ka maqlay maleh sheekhaas ka aheen iskool in loogu magac daray. Can you believe this until recently I didn't know personally who Sakhaawadiin and Cismaan Geedi Raage were besides, again, having only school names? In these days, I am trying to get as much information about these figures as I can. Each is named after a school in Muqdisho, and I hardly can say anything they had done, even though I know they were national figures. We might be ashamed to admit that how we vaguely know anything about these national figures: Macallin Jaamac {he had a beautiful statue of his own too}, Max'uud Mire, Muuse Galaal and Generaal Daa'uud. Jameecooyinka especially Sheikh Abdullahi Baardheere @ jiirada taleex and Timaweynta @ shineema Shuun were strange to say the least; drums, qaat, etc. LoL, Baashi. Xirtaas qaaf ee ahayeen. Horta waala dhameeyi style-ka Afro, habeenkii dhana waala qayilaa. Baashi, widaay dooga si feyla ma i gorada, laakiin Shaatimadoowe iyo Sheekh Gaduud aan kusoo wareesanaa hadee yaqanaan wixii Beydhabo lagu dhigi jiray. ________________ By the way, those who used to go to Biyooleey {where Sheekh Aweys is buried} believed if a person goes there seven consecutive years was an equivalent if that person went to Xaj. To those Soomaali suufis, going there seven times was equivalent going to Xaj. Some still do. ________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Originally posted by Kowneyn: Like Hadraawi I support independent Somaliland and Unity of Somalis at same time. How???? Can you elucidate your point clearly, baliis. And don't start with "free trade, mutual cooperation, defense pacts", etc. Don't. {Ah, if that is the case, for sake's sake, what would Soomaalis trade possibly? Canbo? Babbaay? Geel? Ari Carbeed? } And by the way, when Hadraawi was touring the entire South recently, his first thoughts after nabad was sacrosanct unity of Soomaalis everywhere, no? ______________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Dankis Entre., and what is "Giamia?" Is it a some kind like an orderly xir that used to rule Baardheere? Enlighten us, baliis. Others, can anyone take a shot giving us a lecture, an essay about Sheekh Madar because my brother used to attend a school named after him back in Xamar, located in nearby and between Afrikaan Filaj {African Village} and Sarihii Bangaariyada. _______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... I think silent-sister is playing a joke on you, guys. Most folks in UK have satellite dishes, most probably SkyTv being one. And most of their VCR-like dishes on the top of their TVs require bank-like cards that you put or "feed." Otherwise, it won't work unless you put it. I think it is a clever innovation to protect the children from viewing unattended dirty programs on tv anytime of the day. You take it out, and eureka! the children will beg you all day long to put that "card" back into device. UK is waaaaaay advanced than what I had seen most markets in North America when it comes to digital, satellite networks and cables. Some even play with their remotes--while bored at home and tired watching some dull shows like Neighbours--a billiard-like game on TV, with some strangers they don't know. _______________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Baashi, yeah, I also heard that Al Kowneyn invented and devised that alifla kor dhaweey script, so the patent belongs to him. However, do you really mean the sheekh invented that unique characters only in 1940s? How did the Soomaalis cope to study Quraan in dugsi before that? I mean alifla kor dhaweey and alif wax maaleh did really simplify learning to write Quraan in Soomaaliya. Anyway, what about other sheekhs that existed. Notably sheekhs like Sheekh Aweys and Sheekh Madar. Or even Sheekh Cabdi Sheelaweyne {was he even a sheekh?}. Anyone who have read or heard about their stories, please share with us. ________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Originally posted by flying-still: Faarax jama? and Haliimo? in a nursing home? 76 yr old woman in a pink dress? Xafsa, LoL. You bought that story, didn't you? A Faarax Jaamac living in a nursing home {koow}; supposedly living in a Western country about a half-century ago {lama}. Aww, suspicion may arise then. Some people don't even bother to change the slightest plotlines to any story to make them more persuasive and credible. But why bother, they say, when they can change the names and holla, here you can read it by the name of Hanna, not Xaliimo. And forget about Faarax, but Michael. I must admit, though, that it was a nice story, neatly written piece, but Faarax Jaamac in a nursing home?? Anyway, dankis for sharing, and don't get mad, will you? ________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Entre., yeah, qaas ahaan ruwaayadihii safka lix saac duhurnimo loogu gali jiray oo caanka ahaa, waxaana kamid ahaa Shumeey, Sharaxii La Tumay Sheekaa Ka Danbeyso iyo kuwa kale. Inkastoo ubadi majaajilo wada ahayeen, qaarkood "murti" waa dhaafeen, qaas ahaan ruwaayaduu ku jiray Iikar Jeesto {allahaa u naxaristee}. Ma xasuusataa magaceed? Hadaa xasuusatid ii sheegbo. Waaba iloobay, tan waxa waaye lagu xiraayo danbi uu galin, oo asagoo waayeel lasoo deynaayo oo Baydhabo tagaayo. Ifka iyo Aakhirana ma'aheen, laakiin magaceed baas aa iloobay. And you know any ruwaayad majaajilo ah led by Awkoombe, Awkuuku, Awganbar, Jeeyte, and Odeey Cabdulle are ruwaayado that are worth your every penny. And to forget the best of them all is an insult: Maki Xaaji Banaadir. You know what Maki Xaaji Banaadir said when he was among the group with Hadraawi's peace march across the country recently? He said separating the country is like "Suuga bariis la colloowdey...sakeelaa baaldi saluugay!" from his famous Wamal Xayaatu Dunyaa Illaa Mataacul Quruur poem. ________________ Macsalaama.

"Isii sisinta aah, sinta isaar ahaa"

Salaan... Ooh, Buntiland, Soomaaliland, Jinniland...give me a break. Someone once uttered, "Heedhe, ciyaalkaan yaac yaacaya yaa inaga qabta oo salallaahul calaa nabi yaqaano." See, this is the result of inevitable rivalry. This is what happens when every "cid" tries to aspire being a nation, on the expense of blaming their brothers whatever negative happens inside their turf. Let's all try to build and live in one spacious, sharing room and forget about the now-popular suffix "lands." _______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Originally posted by Entrepreneur: I have noticed that most of my somali brethen after listning and enjoying banadiri music would alter the words "MURTI MALAHA". How did I miss this beforehand? What songs have more "murti" than when you listen such heavy hitters of soothing, smooth, comforting words and songs by such legends: Sulfa, Faadumo Qaasin, Shimaali, Axmed Naaji, Caasho Cabdoow, Luul Jeylaani, among others? Just try to imagine listening this very moment the flowing, melodic, tuneful words of, "Aawey hee, aarigiis ma iloobinee...waxaana u ooya, ooya caawada... Try to imagine listening that and I am sure your tendered heart is already cracked and got a lot more gentle. The reason those folks who keep saying the Banaadiri songs are not "murti" enough is because they don't understand, while in fact those songs are the simplest Soomaali genre songs. And those very folks with their "murti" judgement keep picking such figures of Xasan Aadan Samatar, a very overstated singer. I only wish if he could have stuck his Maaymaay songs, which he mastered and was very comfortable at rather than switching. See, when he sings in Weeraroow dooyoow waniini... and Beledweyn are not the same. And it is obvious which one he is comfortable at. C/qaadir Jubba Xasan Aadan Samatar Khadra Daahir The Mooge Brothers Sahro Axmed In my opinion, these singers are all hype, and nothing else. If not utterly overemphasized. Perhaps the reason is that I never was fond the "qaaci" genre to begin with. _________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Originally posted by Rahima: Headaches could be relieved by vomiting, eating (which you can't), being calm and idle, using cold rags, cooling the body, elevating the temperature, avoiding noise... These are basic commonsense remedies that alleviate headaches. I know, I do. Especially forcing myself to deliberately have throw-ups that sometimes my stomach has nothing left; in that case, I eat as little as I could in order again to vomit because it hugely relieves in the next moments. I thought it was a secret remedy of mine. Heey, Kheyr, Ilaahey haku caafiyo, teeda kalena haduu si xanuun madaxa lagaaga qabto always keep in mind waa qaleen kartaa soonkaaga oo hadhoow aa gadaal ka gudee. Ilaahey caadil waaye, adoomadiis ma dhibo. ________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Originally posted by Samurai Warrior: MMA- Bruv, could you be kind enough as to elaborate on this (That fikrad was rejected by no other than those who advocate it now) please? Kaabe, I thought you knew it, mise waala isku dhibooyaa inaa busta soo jafo. In March 1958, a party called HDMS {Xisbiya Dastuur Mustaqiil al Soomaal, representing primarily the inhabitants of Baay and Bakool regions} proposed a federal government to the less powerful and limited adminstration led by C/llaahi Ciise, believing when Soomaaliya gains its full independence to have a federal government. That proposal was disregarded and shunned before it was even given a proper consideration. It was never studied. It was rejected purely by the powerful SYL party, who adamantly were against the very hint of federalization of Soomaali state. However, we know who predominated the SYL party at the time of independence. Why I am reminding to you about this, is that I am for SYL's rightful rejection of that idea, and I still am against it. But I don't know why those who dominated SYL had changed their minds and want a federal state now. There are some fishy, unexplained reasons than because "we've tried every other system but federal." Give me a break. Did we try to install an Islamic government? Did we try to have a monarchy state? That excuse of we didn't try 'federal state yet' has no basis either than we didn't try a monarch kingdom. _________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Shaqsiyoow, macalinka weyn, soon wanaagsan horta. Xaalada ka waran? Masuuri saana ii dheh yaa musee. Duqa, laakiin, we can understand the health tips or exam notes, but, but, but, but Eastenders?????? Maan, those "lots" in this forum may not even know what it is, let alone it being a useful site. I however watched one episode of that show that had this mean-looking character: a bald, stocky short guy who owned a cafe or a pub business store. In that episode, he wanted to murder someone, I don't know if he achieved murdering that person or not, so did he commit? One thing I wonder is that the British soap operas are broadcast at night, while folks down here in North America watch them in the afternoons. _______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Marxab, Marxab, Yaa Ramadaan... <-----dhageyso xasuustaan lagu soo dhaweyn jiray soonka. _______________ Macsalaama.

Please allow me to list some of the names of the victims, who knows you might know them personally or their families. This list is from another Soomaali website. 1.C/salaan Sh. Cali 2. Waris Gurey Sh. Muuse 3. Deeqa Axmed Yuusuf 4. C/laahi Cismaan Macallin {Faraciil} 5. C/naasir Daahir Max'ed {Suryare} 6. Ismaaciil Max'ud Gaaboow 7. Abuukar C/qaadir Max'ed {Abii} 8. Caroone Sh. Ibraahin Max'ed 9. Max'ed Xaashi Faarax {Bidhikaale} 10. Khaliif Cabdulle Sahal 11. Axmed Daahir Max'ud 12. Bashiir Axmed Cabdulle 13. Cumar Axmed Cabdulle 14. Fartuun {Magaceeda seddexaad lama haayo} 15. Xafso Sh. Nuur 16. Faaduma Cali Max'ed 17. Faa'iso Cali Gooni 18. Sh. Nuur Max'ed Sheekh Cali 19. C/laahi Maracadde 20. Nasteexo Max'ed Faarax 21. Shamso C/laahi Warsame 22. Maryan Ciyeeye Rooble 23. Axmed C/raxmaan Xalane {Digis} 24. Baarliin Axmed Xirsi 25. C/rashiid Faarax Xaashi 26.Max'ud Yuusuf Gurey 27. Ciise Cabdi Xasan 28. Cali C/daahir Yuusuf 29. Xasan Cabdi Axmed "Nigeria" 30. Ibrahin C/qaadir X. Cali 31. Cali Yuusuf {Ii-door} 32. Ibraahin Guuta Cabdi 33.Maryan Max'ed Cali 34.Mulki Max'ed Cali 35. Aweys C/laahi Nuur 36. Xuseen Cali Muudeey 37. Shaafici C/laahi Cali 38. Abuukar Nuur Xasan 39. C/raxmaan Muxudiin 40. Dayax Geeseey 41. C/fataax Shuute 42. Axmed Abuukar Cali {Carab} 43. Isxaaq {magaciis sadexaad lama haayo} 44. Max'ed C/sataar {Qasaali} 45. Max'ed Cumar Cismaan {Yariisow} 46. Max'ed-Qadar Aadan Cismaan 47. Axmed Cali Axmed 48. Max'ed Diiriye ama Cali Shariif M. Saalax 49. C/qaadir Xasan Axmed Ugaas {Haameey} 50. Xuseen Cali -biid Max'ed 51. Cali Max'ud Saalax 52. Cismaan Idris Cusmaan 53. Xuseen Dhafe {Gaagaale} 54. Xasan Daahir Cumar 55. Axmed Cabdi Xuseen 56. Ibraahin Yuusuf Nuur 57. C/weli Faarax Siriq 58. C/rashiid Max'ed Faandhe 59. Liibaan Sh. Cali Muumin 60. Mako Ooyaaye 61. C/fataax Diini C/laahi 62. Dalmar Cumar Abtidoon 63. Max'ud Yacquub Siidoow 64. Max'ed Xuseen Axmed {Tufyaani} 65. Farxiyo Sh. C/raxaam Cabdi ___________________ Ilaahey ha u wada naxariisto dhamaantood: Aamiin. Alloow amuuraha sahal.

Salaan... An overcrowded small boat sailed from Libya on October 03, 2003, destined to Italy with close some 100 people; they journeyed with little food, inadequate, scarcely fresh water and not with any blankets to shield from the cold on the sea. What was expected to be a great journey ended with a very heartbreaking tragedy. All but 15 of them perished in the sea, succumbing to the strong cold tides of the Mediterranean, from the cold itself, starving and unbearable thirst. To those 15 who barely made to Italy, some are in critical condition. Among them was a visibly shaken father who lost three of his four children. 13 dead bodies were found on the boat with other alive terrified 15 survivors; other bodies had been thrown into sea to make a room to those who were still alive. Those 13 bodies were buried today {Friday, October 24} in Rome, Italy. Here are their pictures: The interim ambassador giving his sorrow speech on the tacsi A visibly shaken mayor of Rome People paying their last respects, among them some former Italian ministers The rainbow flag is the flag of a Soomaali organization in Talyaaniga ________________ How they had wished to set a foot on any European soil. How they dreamed to a day of reaching to Europe. And it ended their bodies burried there, not living in Yurub. O' may Allaah help our people, who long desperately for peace, seeking to find it in anywhere; some while seeking perishing on their way in the Saxara, on the seas and on lands. May Allaah forgive them all, and grant jana: Aamiin. Aamiin, Allahoow, aamiin.

Salaan... Awright! Awright! I must admit, I used to be a one who used to fancy and entertain with the big words once. Coming from ESL, in back at high school, to a Shakespearean play of Hamlet in English class, I thought I mastered the English language quickly. I thought wrong. However and nevertheless, big words never bothered me; bring them all on. Why? Read above. ____________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... This individual is an honest professor. Unbiased and not blinded by qabiil, but honesty of Soomaali unity. I almost always agree his ideas about Soomaali unity, except though when he was against Cali Khaliif Galeyr's nomination to teach at the university he works at. That was unnecessary. ________________ Macsalaama.