Salaan... Wooow. I didn't know nooh in ee Boosaaso geed talaal ka baxo. Mise geedo kale aan arkaa, mise kuwii Xamar laga bililiqeystay aa Boosaaso lagu talaalay? Hadii geed talaal iyo booc booc ka baxaan Boosaaso waa soo fiirinaa, hadii kale, well, Iskushuban caloosha laga haayo aan soo arkaa. Dankis for sharing with us duqa. P.S.: I can see you are well-versed with "Billie Jean" dance-song. I had never seen a nomad dance like that, save Awkuuku in his ruwaayado. ______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... MMA, Capo di capi seniore Mashalaaye-Maxruug Awoowe qudkan shaabaal uu ku rijaa. Been-guur aa widaay meesha ku heysaa ee waxaa shukuleysid ma leh ee ikhyaarta ha ka waalin. Maxaa tiri waa shaabaal aah??? Ahahaahahahah, ar baashaalka ku jirtid ar amuus sugunto maano noqdaa lee??? Da'iga ramkaa najadaas ku rijtid na'agana najada dotobaad aa raasanahay la soco hee. Waraa Sophist, adigana fa niji maa keentey? Maya, maya, maba ogeyn in Oxford fa niji lagu barto ee see camal? Caramel, walaashiis waa lagaa qabanaa odeygaan gaboobay, asagoo baashaal ku jiro xataa wali iimaankiis ma dagin. Odeey Cabdulle waa dhaafay Sangubna ma gaarin, ma ogi meel uu maraayo. Magaciisba baashi bilaash maloo dhihin. And noo, there is no "tiiba Talyaani" guy on here. Si si, sinyorita. _______________ Jaaw.

Salaan... Originally posted by JIDAAWY: My brother once told me about a Farax who used to go to his school, University of Windsor, named Ali Gaal. This "rat" became an Atheiest and was preaching Atheism to Somali students!!! So I guess a Somali girl becoming Christian is not news to us no more... I personally know that Cali Gaal guy, back from Windsor, On. He was the very first Soomaali gaal I'd seen. He always kinda seemed "adeer" or marax and didn't get well with other Soomaalis. He now lives in Sacuudiya. Caramel, sheekadaa sheegtay wax laga naxo waaye, laakiin sidii qurbo loo yimid wax walba filo, aniga dhankeyga yaabnimo ama yax-yaxnimo wax la dhaho waa ka dhamaadeen. Jaaw.

Salaan... This wadaad did something honourable and should be applauded, however long as it was unintentional, wuxuu bixiye gabdhihiis oo yar yar oo caruur eh oo waxba ka war qabin. Ciyaalkaaga xoola ma'aha at least intee ka qaangaarayaan in uu u sugo aa fiicneed. Mise dhaqankeena suuban si walba ha ahaadee uu wadaa oo waagii ciyaalka la bixin jiray, laakiin wadaadadda dhaqaankeena ma isku fiicneen ee siduu yahay camalkiis ma ogi. Ar Ilaahey ha u fududeeyo. Ciyaal yar yar Mareykan ku korayaan Ilaahaa og see noqon doonaan. ________________ Macsalaama.

Salaaan... Originally posted by Baashi: Deep down some of us know that looks, as pleasing to our eyes as it might be, is not what hold the relationships together. Couples don’t grow old together because they look pretty. When the novelty is worn off and the thrill is gone, something more solid than the looks - the inner beauty, the mutual understanding, the mutual commitment, the mutual conviction in the faith, the love, etc - is what keeps the ship going. Kaaba, soori, but you have to step aside. What do Talyaanis say? Tooka bar tooka, yeah. Markaa alaabteena soo dhameysanay maa rabtaa in aa jiil jiiliyaasha jidka ka xirtid oo lecture u biloowdid, waraa xariifiinta hakaa qaraabtaan dhaaf nooh oo gabdhaha haku dirin. Waraada ciyaalkiina, duqaan Baashi warkiisa iska dhaafa ee marka looks do matter, laakiin maalintaa idinkina "ganbaleelkiina" soo yeero, booskiina waa idiin sii diyaarsanyahay markaaska idinka calaacal ha bilaabina. Hadaba intaa fursad heysatiin shukula. _______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Saaxiib, wat aar yuu tookin abawt? Those who discuss about isboortis or ciyaaraha--even though I am not one of them--are not that confused, ee see camal duqa? Haa rayigaa waaye, xaqna waa u leedahay in aa rayi sameysatid laakiin honestly shantaas category meesha ku qoran midkoodba ma gali. Some of us do come here for pure majaajilo, shactiro mise wixii lamid ah; mar marna budka waa tuuranaa oo serious wey noqotaa laakiin majaajilo iyo mashalaayenimo lee u imaanay, kii kirif kirif iyo xanaaq ama isla weynimo ama cyper fadhi ku dirir u imaaday asagee/iyadee jirtaa. Sheekada noosii wad, Qabri Dahare maxaa laga sheegay iyo Godeey? ______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Let me kindly share with you these iconic and classical songs. Soori I don't have their lyrics hadadaan. Bari Hore Waxaa Jiray by Maryan Mursan iyo Max'ed Jaamac Joof :cool: :cool: Alifla Kordhaweey, Alifla Hoosdhaweey... Aamiin, Allahayoow, Aamiin...by Max'ed Saleeban Tubeec Shinbiryaaloow Heesa by none other than Magool God, she has a gifted voice in this particular song! Iloow Iloow by Caasha Cabdoow And finally, the mother of all songs. Yes, that is right and it is ONKOD. What a song! Onkod by Cabdi Tahliil Warsame God bless him! Herewith the lyrics of that song, Onkod {you can correct if some words are misspelled}: Onkod roob madaayo Ana taaha madaayo Ana taa ma ilaawoo Jeceyl ood rogan maayo Oon cilaac bi inmaayo Xeera weerar madaayo Heleey aamusi maayo Ergo geesi madiido Ilaah tiisu ma oosho Calaf leyskama ooto Ubax deyr maqarsoomo Reyska leyskuma waayo Ifkaa leysu turaayee Iilka leysma gargaaro Aboor leyskama daadshee Nabsi heyga amaahan Axdigii nadhexyiiliyo Ha iloobin aqoontee Asaageey usha toosan Iyo ooda hagaagsan Hayinkii afagaadee Hilinkii afar deeqaay Inantii la,ilwaadsan eey asluubi udheereyd Sida aan u,adkeysan Kuu eeganayaayee Hadanaan mid iraahdo Waa aqoonta haweenee Ruuxa iiga danbeeyo Halka ay kacaweyso Uur kutaalada maada Aramidiisa jaceylka Anigu soow dhaxli maayo Nabsi heyga amaahan Axdigii nadhexyiiliyo Ha iloobin aqoontee Sida oodda cilaaca Hilinkeeda cadceeda Amantaada libaaxa Mala waanad ogeyne Haya nuurkiyo maanka Waadnahayga agtiisa Sida aayad kutaalaan Uumiyaha utusaayee Hadii aanan ibliisku Iga kaa anbineynin Inaad iituri weydo eegi maayo koleyee Arin kuuma hanbeynine Aaraartii haku deeqdo Sina heyga adkeysan Nabsi heyga amaahan Axdigii nadhexyiiliyo Hailoobin aqoontee Jaaw.

Salaan... I am glad you visited Xamar. And I am glad that you proved wrong the misconceptions about it; however Xamar isn't that fancy either. I was suprised to see a big beautiful hospital, where foreign doctors from Europe worked at That is SOS children's hospital, I guess. It is a beautiful hospital, but compared to the way it was 13 years ago, you will be shocked. Although, you see guns, most of the militia are now paid security-guards for a building, or some other business That is right. They are busy. I was surprised too while there. Tribes from all over Somalia, Djibouti, Ethiopia...etc all side by side, doing business and politics, as usual That is true, and I didn't have expected to see some members of some qabiils in there living freely. Either ask anyone who has just returned from Xamar, or visit it for yourself, and you'll either hear about, or experience a completely different Xamar Yes, Xamar looks completely different. Of course, the other way around. And yes, I was there, seeing on my bare eyes. I never once heard a single gun shot fired in the city That is also true. Most xaafado are peaceful and you hardly hear any shots, especially Laba Dhagax, Taleex, Sodonka, Huriwaa, Bakaaraha, Ifka iyo Aakhiro, etc, laakiin in some xaafado you can occasionally still hear what the Ciyaal Xamar call the "music"--that is the gunshots. People in the city have dishes set up at their homes, and are upto date with events around the world This is so true! I was there when Bakhdaad fell and immediately after I heard the news, I turned the TV on, there Al Jazeera reporting live about Sadaam's statue collapsing; then switched to CNN, there the netword was misfiring its propagandic images of Sadaam's effigy falling. Turned the darn thing off, wished there was no TV as I expected. One night the kids were watching American TV shows Dark Angel and ER. I was surprised they watch new American shows in Xamar now! Overall, Xamar is a lot more peaceful than I thought too. However, its citizens yearn a lot more peace, and to be it a city that deserves to be a capital city--just the way it was. Those so-called warlords had caged and curbed its citizens and curved up the city as they please. Again that as much as I love and adore it, objectivity would do the justice of reporting. Jaaw.

Salaan... Originally posted by La Fidele: considering the success rate of gold-diggers Exactly. Considering the rented cars from Avis, Budget and Enterprise are not always around. And the pearly smileys, well it is only a step away from a punch. I always believed that there is no Mr. Right or Ms Right. That doesn't exist. There is no The One. It is not possible that a human can be a complete "perfection" to another one. Mr. Right will not be "righteous" after all in a week. Or in a month. Or within a year. Long as it takes, he is only human and will sooner disappoint you. Jaaw.

Salaan... Since there is too many topics regarding Soomaaliland in every God-given forum or website by Soomaalis on the Internet, I would like to ask you or anybody who wants to break into pieces the nation of Soomaaliya this question {actually, questions} for once and all: Is Somaliland a nation based on qabiil? Or not? If it is, how can a nation based on qabiil be called "dhulkii Soomaalida" {that is my understanding of the literal meaning of Somaliland} and then deport other so-called "foreign" Soomaalis from other regions that reside there. If it is a nation based not on qabiil, I can bet you and every person almost 99.9999% that supports Soomaaliland are originated from one qabiil. If it was called the qabiil's name or "qabiilland," these questions shouldn't be asked now. I can further more bet on my life whose qabiil you belong. I am saying this because if Soomaaliland is based not on qabiil, then why it is easy to know only certain "elements" of one qabiil support it {not all members of this qabiil support secession, mind you, and that is rightly applauded}. I am asking these questions because some people are confused about what "Soomaali" stands and what their qabiil is. The Soomaali word is qabiil-less and cannot be exclusive; cannot be trademarked or registered. It all belongs to all Soomaalis--regardless of anything they are associated. Any nation that bears a Soomaali word should not and must not deport a Soomaali. ________________ P.S.: Don't start Soomaali is an ethnic and "Somalilander" is nationality formula. That doesn't do much justice to the word Soomaali. ________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Saaxiib, do you really think these are magacyo "Soomaaliyeed." I once replied a similar post like this one ee let's see if some of those are really magacyo "Soomaaliyeed." By magacyo Soomaaliyeed I literally mean they must be originated from the Soomaali language and have a Soomaali meaning, not Carabinized Soomaali words. Now, let's see: A Abshiro {from "abshir," of course} Amran {from "amar," of course} Asli {from "asal," of course} Axado {from "axad," of course or Sunday} B Binti {from "bint," of course} Bishaaro {from "bishaar," of course} C Carfi {I am not sure on this one} Carwo {easy} Cawrala {no need to explain} Ceebla {la "ceeb"} Cibaado {from "cibaada," of course} Cowliya {from "awliya," of course} D Dahabo {no need to explain} Dawo {if it is originated from "daawo" then it is a Carabi word} Duco {from "duca," of course} F Fahiima {from "faham," of course} Farax {from "farax," of course or happy} Fariido {from "fariid," of course} Faynuus {"faynuus" is an Carabi word} J Jamaad {from "jamaaca," of course} K Kaltuun {from "ibnu kalthun," of course} Kowsar {from "kawthar," of course} L Luul {no need to explain} M Mulki {from "mulk," of course} Q Qamar {no need to explain, qamar or the moon} R Raxmo {from "raxma," of course} S Saado {from the Carabi letter of "saad", of course} Samawada {"samo" of course} Saxarla {no need to explain} Shamis {from "shamsi," of course} Sharaf {no need to explain} Shariifo {from "sharaf," of course} Shukri {from "shukran," of course} X Xaawo {no need to explain} Xabiiba {from "xabiib," of course} Xaliimo {no need to say} Xoriyo {from "xuriya," of course}

Salaan... Saaxiib, do you really think those are magacyo "Soomaaliyeed." I once replied a similar post like this one ee let's see if some of those are really magacyo "Soomaaliyeed." By magacyo Soomaaliyeed I literally mean they must be originated from the Soomaali language and have a Soomaali meaning, not Carabinized Soomaali words. Now, let's see:

Salaan... Shaqsi, Kaaba of Museeyaasha, ii waran? Xaalad boqolkiiba boqol kheyr ii dheh. Ruwaayadahaan, I was never fond of them until recently. I started to go and see what was the big deal with friends. Everytime I go--including tonight, I came back from it now--it is same old "^**&%#$%^&@" One proposal I would like to recommend, as Barwaaqo wants too, is to ban the hip-hop/rap/any foreign music from its premises. Tired of the ill-mannered ciyaal kuni kuni markii loo shido their kind of music dagaal bilaabaayo time after time, again and again. Most of them don't pay; some of them are "high;" some don't respect no body, and they don't even know what is going on around them. And most come because that "rap/hip/hop" factor. Ban their kind of music and ban themselves too--anyone under the age of 22 {with certain exception, of course because some under that age are well-mannered and courteous}. ________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Bachelor--are you still "doob?" , Hopefully this new year will be the time to settle --macalinka, I thought the war started exactly on the 26th day of December, 1990, in Xamar and ended exactly within a month on January 26, 1991,{perhaps Wednesday}, when Max'ed Siyaad Barre left Xamar. I know this vividly that it started on 26th because I was preparing to go to "afternon" school day. {I was galableey student and I deeply detested that} At first there was this huge bang in Suuqa Siinaay where the largest suuqa jaadka was located in about 12 p.m. on that fateful day of December. This explosion would be heard almost most xaafado across Xamar. No one could have ever predicted that explosion's consequence. I can still remember that I was, at first, happy because right after that explosion gunfights erupted in nearby xaafad of Hawl Wadaag, where its police station was overran by "thugs" who looted its guns and that "afternoon's" school was obviously going to be cancelled. Alas, if I only knew...that Xamar would never be same--so far. _______________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... As my friend Baariyoow rightly noted, I never intend to favour federalism--whatsoever. However, let's supposedly say this hypothetical qaarad becomes reality, and who would and wouldn't support. The probable supporters: Reer Buntilaand {Why: The double "S and S" regions are on board; the state's border goes to all the way to Gaalkacyo town itself, ...} Reer Maay-speaking {Why: This is what they were seeking since the Talyaanis left from the South} Most of those who associate themselves with the now defunct USC party {Why: They will have the largest state, at least from the appearance of the map} Reer Sool, Sanaag iyo nawaaxigeeda {Why: This is what they wanted since the civil war; in a nutshell: make this happen or forget the whole thing} The possible rejecters: Reer Soomaalileen {Why: No full Sanaag, no Sool--No nothing} Dooxadda Jubba {Why: Without much Shabeelada Hoose, Jubbooyinka, etc, heck noo} Reer Gedo {Why: Baardheere, Luuq and Doolow are not part of Jubba--read Gedo--state} SPM/Gabyoow, SPM/Cumar Jees {Why: Bu'aale, Jilib, etc aren't part of Jubba state} Some factions who rule Hiiraan region {Why: Beledweyne is NOT the capital on supposedly Hamar state} And then comes unexpectedly what we call the "minority" groups, some who rightly own a lot of Shabeeloyinka estates, towns and cities. Marka, Baraawe, Kismaayo are all originally settled by THEM and had forcefully been expelled. They need their "states" too. _________________ It will always be hard to satisfy all of those groups, so at least we should not entertain with this "federal" idea since it creates more problems than it solves. Keep the 18 provinces as it was.

Salaan... Before we blame the police, a bunch of those guys were fighting themselves at the wee hour of 3 a.m. in the morning on a major Toronto street and highway intersection. What do you then expect than having the police's attention? However, that didn't qualify any brutality and cruelty--including the punches--from the police. Their actions are inexcusable to say the least. After the repeated punches, the brother lost an ilig and a lot of blood as you can see from the picture. As you can see on the left, the mean-spirited police guy is giving him a real punch. Darn. If you would like to watch the video, click here Finally, if he is convicted--the police officers have charged him harassment; fleeing from police, not what they did to him--and since he isn't Canadian yet he might face deportation to Soomaaliya. Maskiinka Ilaahey ha u sahlo, aamiin.

Salaan... Savage brutality, indeed. Inhumanity at its worst stage possible. Read below. ___________________ These subsequent events occured in Soomaaliya last month: 1/11/03: Waxaa Dableey Ka Afduubta Suuqa Bakaaraha Dhibane Max’ed Nuur Sinwaaq Oo Ka Mid ahaa Xoogsatada Suuqa Bakaare. Isla Taariiqdaas Waxaa Deg. Afgooye Lagu dilay Marxuum Axmed Max’ed Jabriil Oo Da’diisu Aheyd 27 Jir. 1/11/03: Dhibane Jiijo Cali Iikoow Ayaa Laga Afduubay Bosteejada Baabuurta Marka Ee Suuqa Bakaaro Kadib Makay La Tageen Deg. Shibis Nasiib Wanaag Dableydii Ayaa Laga Dhiciyay Markay Iska Tuurtay Baabuurkii Ayadoo Qeylinayso Waxaa U Soo Gurmaday Ciimada Madaniga ee deg Shibis. Isla Taariiqdaas Waxaa Xaafada Siinaay Lagu Dilay Marxuum Max’ed Abuukar Walaaxoow Asagoo Ku Sugan Goobtiisa Ganacsiga Ayaa Nin Dabley Ah Rasaas Ku Furay Kadib Markii Ilmo Ay Ku Tuureen Baaruud Agagaarkaas 1/11/03: Waxaa tuuladda Jambaluul Oo Ka Tirsan Deg. Afgooye lagu dilay wiil 15 jir ah waxaana dilay maleeshiyo hubeeysan oo ku sugan goobtaas 2/11/03: Iska hor imaad ka dhacay Suuqa Bakaare, ayaa ku dhintay laba qof taas dhex maray burcad dooneysa inay dadka furtaan iyo gancsatadii suuq bakaaro. 2/11/03: Afar gaari oo xamuul ahaa oo ka yimid dhanka Jilib kuna soo jeeday Muqdishu ayaa duleedka magaalada Baraawe burcad jid gooyo halkaas u tiil ayaa tacshiiro ku furay, waxaan halkaas ku dhintay 3 ruux, 12 na waa Ay ku dhaawacmeen. 4/11/03: Waxaa Xaafada Siinaay Ee Deg. Wardhiigleey Ka Dhacay Dhacdo Ah Nin Lagu Magacaabo Abuukar Ayaa Bastoolad Ku Dhaawacay Dhibane Nasteexo Max’ed Xalane Oo Horey Xaaskiisu Ahayd Hasae Yeeshee Kala tageen Kadib Markii Uu Dhexmaray Muran Nasteexo Ayaa IsLa Markiiba Loola Cararay Isbitaalka Al Xayaat. Faadumo Xaaji Cumar Oo Mudo 20 Cisho Loogu Haystay Afduub Magaalada Muqdisho Ayaa La Keenay Isbitaalka Madiina Ayadoo Loo Geystay Jirdil Aad U Fool Xun. Faadumo Oo Ka Ganacsata Qudaarta. 4/11/03: Agagaarka Laanta Buur Ee Deg. Afgooye Ayaa Dagaal Ku Dhexmaray Masuuliyiin Sare Ee DKMG Iyo Ciidamada Meleteriga Ee Deegaankaas Hase Yeeshee Waxaa Ku Dhintay 3 Ruux 5 Kalana Wey Ku Dhaawacmeen. Isla Taariiqdaas goor ay aheyd 1da Duhurnimo Agagaarka Soobe Rasaas Ku Furay Gaari Cabdi Bila Ah Kaasoo Dhimasho Iyo Dhaawacba U Geystey Dadkii Halkaas Ku Sugnaa Waxaa Ku Dhintay Wiil Yar Lagu Magacaabo Xuseen Awooto Iyo Qof Kale Oo Da’weyn Waxaa Ku Dhaawacmay 3 Caruur Ah. Isla Taariiqdaan 2.00 Duhur Nimo Ayaa Isgoyska Bakaaraha Lagu Dilay Nin Lagu Magacaabay Fanax Waxaana Dilay Dableyda Isgoyska Joogta. {my xaafad, this was MY XAAFAD} 05/11/03: Waxaa Lagu Dilay Suuqa Bakaaraha Marxuum Sh. Nuur Abuukar Max’ed Oo 18 Jir Ah Ka na Sheynayay Tolista Dharka Waxaa Kalida Loogu Dhiftay Ka Dibna U Dhintay Dhiig Bax. 05/11/03: Waxaa Xaafada Baar Raaxo oo ka tirsan Barmuuda, lagu dilay marxuum Axmed Fanax ooka ganacsan jiray kutubta quraanka kariimka . waxaa dilka geeystay maleesiyo gabar halkaas ku kufsaneeysay, marxuumkana u rabay inuu ka dhiciyo falka foosha xun ee gabadha lagu sameeynaayay. {That Baar or maqaayad was only two blocks away from our house and I used to hang out there every other day, darn..... :mad: } 06/11/03: Isla taariikhdaas ayaa inta u dhaxeysa waddada isku xirta Wanla Weyn iyo War Maxan lagu rasaaseeyey gaari caasi ahaa oo marayeye halkaasi waxaana ku dhintey hal ruux, 9 kalena wey ku dhaawacantey. 06/11/03: Waxaa Gurigiisa Oo Ku Yaala Xaafada Taleex Ee Deg. Hodan Laga Afduubay Dhibane C/laahi Aadn Cumar (C/laahi Shariif) Oo 10 Jir Ah Waxaana Loo Afduubay Arimo Dhaqale 07/11/03: Ayaa degmada Wanle Weyn lagu dilay nin la gu magacaabo Maad Amad oo da'diisu lagu qiyaasey 28 jir isagoo ijaarayey Baaskiilo. {Nin iska shaqeysanaayo oo la iska tooganaayo, Yaa Rabi!!!} 07/11/03: Isgoyska SOS Maleeshiyo Fadhiday Iyo Kuwo Rabay Inay Xoog Ku Maraan Halkaas Ayaa Is Rasaaseyay Shaqaaqadaas Ayaa Waxaa ku dhintey haweeney tuuganaysay iyadoo weliba nasiib daro la waayey ehelkeeda. 08/11/03: Ayaa agagaarka dugsiga Maxamuud Xarbi ee degmada Wardhiigley burcad ku dishay nin darawal xaajiyo ahaa urcadda oo rabtey inay gaariga dhacaan hase yeeshee ninkii gaariga ayaa intuu gaariga ka degay furihiina kala baxay kolkaasayey xabbad ku fureen. 08/11/03: Ayaa lagu dilay nin lagu magacaabo C/laahi Cabdi Dhega cade is goyska baar ubax ee degmada howl wadaag. 08/11/03: Xaafadda Laba Dhagax ayaa lagu dilay macalin dugsi quraan halkaas ku lahaa, markii ayy koox dableey ah oo rabtay iney dhacaan gaari dhagaxle ah, rasaastii ay fureen ayaa haleeshay marxuumka, waxaa kaloo ku dhaawacantay idla xabadahaas 6 ka mid ah ardayda dugsiga jogtay. 09/11/03: ayaa tuullo ka tirsan degmada B/WEYNE gobolka hiiraan lagu dilay macalin dugsi qu’aan kaasoo loo dilay aanno qabiil. {Killing a macalin dugsi quraan??? :mad: :mad: } 09/11/03: Gacan ku dhigle Maxamuud Maxamed Cibaar ayaa ku dilay walaalkiisa Cabdi raxmaan, xaafadda Geed Jaceyl ee Wardhiigleey, isagoo u adeegsaday dilka walaalkiisa FAAS, waana aargoosi. {Yaa Ilaahey yaqaano?} 13/11/03: Waxaa lagu af dubtay deg. Jilib ee ka tirsan Gob, Jub. Hoose, taliyaha ciidanka isbaheysiga dooxada juba ee degaankaasi, col. Maxamed Cabdi Nuur,waxaana af dubtay dabley lacag ku sheeganeysay. 13/11/03: Isla taariikhdaas ayaa dekadda magalad Kismaayo lagu af duubtay dhibane Muqtaar Shiikh Axmed, oo ganacsade ahaa,kaaso isku heyb ahaayeen taliyaha ciidanka isbaheysiga ee jilib. ,iyadoo dableyda lacag ku sheegteen dhibanahaas. 14/11/03: Waxaa lagu dilay agagarka isbitaalka SOS marxuum Axmed Aalow oo darawal ahaa, waxaana dilkaas geeystay dabley halkaas isbaaro u taalay. 14/11/03: Waxaa lagu dilay Tuulad Hawaay ee ka tirsan Aadan Yabaal ee gob. Shabeelaha Dhexe, marxuum Xuseen Maxaa Xasan( Xuseen Gureey), iyo Xasan Cali maxamed, waxaana loo dilay aano qabiil. 14/11/03: Hal qof oo lagu dilay guri ku yaala deg. Kaaraan, marki ay gurigaas soo weerareen maleeshiyo hubeysan, iyagoo rabay inay dhac geeystaan. 15/11/03: Gaari rakaab ah oo u socday gobalka shabeelaha Dhexe, ayaa lagu rasaaseeyay meesha lagu magacabo Geed Gule oo ka tirsan Deg. Cadale, Gob. Sh/ dhexe, waxaana ku dhintay tacshiradaasi darawalkii gaariga marxuum faarax Maxamed Cabdi iyo kirishboygiisa marxuum Cabdi Xasan, waxaana loo dilay aano qabiil. 15/11/03: Gaari xaajiyo ah oo maraayay wadada jaayga ee u dhaxeeysa Balcad iyo Afgooye, ayaa koox dableey ah rasaaseeyeen, waxaan ku dhintay hal qof oo gaariga lasocday. 16/11/03: Maleeshiyo Weeratay tuulada Dhanaane oo ka tirsan Deg. Marka Gob. Shabeelaha Hoose, ayaa dhacdo aad u fool xun oo iskugu jirta Dil, Dhac, Kufsi Iyo Bililqeeysi, ka sameeyay degaankaas, Maleeshiyadaas oo ka duushay Deg. Madiina,waxay halkaas ku dileen, 2 ruux, 6 kalana Dhaawacantay iyagoo woliba hor istagay in dhaawaca la bad baadiyo. Isla Taariiqdaas Hooyo 70 Jir Ah Ayaa Lagu Dilay Degmo Ka tirsan Deg. Afgooye Halkaas Oo Laga Waday Waan Waan Dilkii Labo Qof Horay Halkaas Looga Dilal. 16/11/03: ayaa nin lagu magacaabo Maxamed Cabdulle Shiikh oo degan Tuuladda Farxaano oo ka tirsan Deg. Qoryooley, ku dilay gabar uu dhalay oo 18 billood jirtay, ka dib markuu khilaaf soo dhex galay isaga iyo xaaskiisa, dilka gabadhiisa oo ahaa isagoo ku joog-joogsaday sidaasna ay gabadhii ku dhimatay. { :mad: :mad: :mad: } 20/11/03: Wiil Magaciisa Lagu Sheegay Dhaga Dheere Ayaa Hooyadiis Faas Ku Dilay Walaashiina Ku Dhaawacay Tuulo Ka Tirsan Deg. Baladweyne Ee Gobolka Hiiraan. {Tana ii koow...Yaa Raxmaan!} 21/11/03: Waxaa Xaafada Godeey Ee Deg Kaaraan Lagu Dilay Nin Lagu Magacaabo Xasan Gaawoow. Waxaana loo dilay lacag tahriib lagu aaday darteed. 22/11/03 Waxaa lagu xasuuqay tuulada DHANAANE oo ka tirsan gobalka SH. Hoose Deg. Marka dad gaaraaya 11 dhimasho iyo 7 dhawac ah, iyago saarnaa gaari Caasi ah HOMEY, dadkaaso waxba galabsan, hasa yeeshee waxaa falkaas arxan darada ah geystay maleeshiyo ka tagay Deg. Madiina ee Gob. Banaadir. 29/11/03 Iskahorimaad Ka Dhacay deg. Kaaraan Ayaa Lagu Dilay Afar Ka Mid Ah Ganacsatada Yaryar Waxaa Ka Mid Ah Dadka La Dilay Raxmo Sheeq Iyo Sheeq Ibraahim. 30/11/03: Sarkaal u dhashay dalka Talyaaniga laguna magacaabo Masten una shaqeeynaayey hay’adda PEACE fadhigeedu yahay Beled Weyne, ayaa lagu weeraray buundada Liiliiqato ee Deg. Beled Weyne isagoo halkaas maraya, falkaasna waxaa geeystay laba nin oo hay’adda shaqo ka rabay hadana aan helin shaqada, sidaasna falkaas u geeystay. _________________ Maxamed Cali Markacadeey.com ________________ Who is a barbarian if those who perpetrated those shameless acts aren't?

Salaan... Originally posted by Nino_Brown: Salaama I know iam not a female, but iam compelled to anwser and post a reply..in order to clarify what the hijaab is and refute the claims of MMM.... MMM- Subxanallah..ur saying somali women should follow somali culture and instead of following the Quran and the Sunnah...may allah save us from this. by the way if somali culture is so great why are we all refugees in Kufaar lands huh.. Cajiib. Yaab iyo yaabkeeda kale. Intii horta seeftaada aadan la boodin oona qoorta iga saarin, ma "aqrisay" waxaa qoray? Mana fahantay? Goormaa xijaab, jilbaab, niqaab kasoo horjeestay? Waxa kaliya aan dhahay jilbaab qalad aa laga fahmay oo qofkii qabo loo maleeyo "religious" laakiin garbasaar iyo marooyinka kale ee hooyooyinkeeda saartaan "religious enough" ahayn. Waxa kaliya aan dhahay to me personally jilbaab qofkii qabo iyo garbasaar enough covering the body iskumid ee ii yihiin, ee hadaan danbi galay i sax, hadii kale seeftaada faraska ku ekeey. Niinoow, adigaa waano keentee, here is a little advice for you too: Avatarkaa Laan Kheyra Cas eh gadaal gadaal ma u aragtay? Mise waxaa ku qaladay inee tahay Bisha Cas? Anagaba seefta dahabiga waala boodi karnaa, laakiin waa kuu fuutinaa. P.S.: Soomaaliya goormaa kugu danbeysay? Because jilbaab sidii fashion camal aa loo wataa toogtaan oo tii "diin" ahaan u xiratay iyo tii "cabsi" ahaan u xiratay makala taqaanid. Marka jilbaab mara kale camal uu noqday oo wuxuu u taagnaaba qaarkood iloobeen. Dad badan aan soo arkay oo reer ahlul diin ahayn oo jilbaab qabo maxaa yeeley nolosha aa u keentey cabsi daradeeda ama qaarkood see dhahayn "dadka dhan aa wada wato ee aniga maxaa iga reebaayo." ___________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Awguuriyo!! Jini iyo Malab!! Aamiin dheh nooh. Mise Wiil iyo caano aa rabtaa? Wah, yur markasee markaas. ___________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Ila aqribo meeshaan. __________________ Indho-gashiggii goortuu Faarax si haboon ugu hubsaday labadiisa indhood ee waaweyn ayuu qun yar u weyddiiyey afadiisa Kaltuun: "Naa heedhe, horta sidee loo qoraa ereyga "heart" (wadne)? Ma shibbane labalaabmaa, oo laba rr ayaan is-raacshaa, mise waa shaqal dheer oo laba ee ayaan isdaba dhigaa?" Labada dibnood doc intay isugu leexisay, iyadoo shanteeda farood oo isku naban Faarax labada indhood uga halgaadaysa, gacanta kalana ku haabanaysa tafta diraceeda khafiifka ah bay Kaltuun ku war-celisay: "War heedhe, carruurta weyddii waxaakani, maxaan ka garanayaa af-shisheeye." Caku iyo af shisheeye! Nebciyaa! "Marka hore, ereyga heart macnihiisu muxuu ahaa? Ma sanbabadaa, mise...?" Ayey daba dhigtay Kaltuun hadalkeedi. "Waa yaab! Maxaan falaa haatan?" Faarax oo ciil-kaanbinaya ayaa niyada isaga sheegay, isagoo hadba goor-sheegtada indhaha ku xadaya. Faarax waa inuu degdeg u buuxshaa warqada caafimaadka, ka hor intuusan tegin isbitaalka. Laba toddobaad ka hor waxaa Faarax lagula taliyey laba daran midkood dooro: Hawada nasteexada leh ee Soomaaliya inuu ku laabto, si caafimaad buuxa oo taam ah uu u helo ama inuu door bido cadka wadnaha in lagu farsameeyo qaliin ballaaran oo culus, oo uu dalka Ingiriiska iska jooga. Talo ayaa ku cadaatay Faarax. Waxa kale oo fara-kulul ku haya Faarax Waaxda Adeega Arrimaha Bulshada {Social Services}, oo ku cadaadinaya inuu barto afka Ingiriiska, haddii kale lacagta cayrta in laga goosan doono. Intaa waxaa u dheer weliba, oo welwel weyn ku haya inuusan qaadan doonin dhalasho Ingiriis ah, haddaanu afka Ingiriiska si hufan u baran. Weli kobtii isagoo iska fadhiya, hadba doc u rog-rogaya warqadaha laga doonayo inuu buuxsho ayuu Faarax misna wajihay erey wadne-qabad ku noqday, cabsi iyo yax-yaxna ku biiriyey naftiisa cadiban: "Sex" "Naa heedhe, Kaltuun, waryaa Eebbe af garanaya! Naa heedhe," Inta sacabka calaacashiisa midig ku nabay dhafoorkiisa, "Maxay ula jeedaan ereygan sex? Sow ma'aha "isutagga ragga iyo dumarka?" Naa gaaladu waa waasheen. Ma xishoonayaan!" Kaltuun, oo u muuqato inay xoogaa ka fahmad badan tahay, kagana soo horaysa ninkeeda nolosha Yurub ayaa ku warcelisay, "sex miyaanay aheyn ragga iyo dumarka? Waxaa laga wadaa sinnaanta ragga iyo dumarka! Si aan loo kala soocin." Indho-sarcaad intuu ku eegay Kaltuun ayuu iska aamusay misna. Wadan yaab leh! Caku iyo af shisheeye, maantay bay i haysataa. "Rag iyo dumar! Wager! Sow kuwa dhaha ma aha "man iyo woman?" Caku iyo af shisheeye. Anigu nimankan gaalada ah waxaanba ku nacay gacan ku dhiiglayaashii Soomaaliya bur buriyey bay xataa kol kooliyaan, hadba ereyo qurxoon oo ay heybad iyo wanaag san ka muuqato bay ugu yeeraan, bal eeg waa kuwa leh "Warlords!" Ma taqaan macnaheeda "Lord?" Waa boqor, caaqil, ma istiri iyagaaba nagu kacshay gacan ku dhiiglayaasha!" Caku iyo af shisheeye! "Bal waa kaa maanta meel i dhaqaaji!" Caku iyo af-shisheeye! "Maanta waa inaan sugaa intay Raxmo ama Rashiid midkood ka soo rawaxayo." Ayuu Faarax niyada isaga sheegay, isagoo aan doonayn muragada iyo caqabada hortaagan inuu tuso afadiisa. Waa laba xaniinyood, waa inuu qarsadaa jabkiisa. Dhakhtarka iyo gaalada cadcad ee wadanka joogta sidaan rabo ulama hadli karo, ayuu hadba iskula qanbiyaa. Cadkayga hadal kuma goosan garo. Xataa haddaan si fiican u barto afkooda weli waxaan ahay nin shisheeye ah, Caku iyo af-shisheeye! Ayuu misna niyada isaga sheegay, isagoo hoos ka eegaya Kaltuun. In yar dabadeed waxaa degdeg u soo gashay Raxmo oo uu weheliyo saaxiibkeed "Warlord." Goortay aabbaheed iyo hooyadeed bartay ninka reerka ka ku cusub, Warlord, ayaa waxaa soo dhawaaqay taleefankii reerka. Faarax oo dhiiggu kor u kacay kolkuu arkay Warlord oo garabka haysta Raxmo baa degdeg ugu orday taleefankii, si uu isu dhaafiyo caloo-xumada u muuqata. Falka iyo dhaqanka ka muuqda gabadha qura ee fir tirsita Faarax. Falka Warlord iyo Raxmo Faarax waxay soo xasuusisay maqaal dheer ee uu xalay ka akhirstay warsidaha “Qab-qablayaasha Dagaalka”, hal-ku-dhegiisuna ahaa "Qaran iyo Qoys Burburay." "Maay watar is not guud" (My water is not good), Faarax oo la hadlaya ninkii hagaajin lahaa qasabada aqalka ayaa sidaas u sheegay, si uu uga dhaadhacsiiyo in qasabada biyihu jaban tahay, isagoo la lagdamaya afka shisheeye, niyadana ka leh Caku iyo af-shisheeye! "Ee aabbe, ha dhihin "water" Marka afka Ingiriska lagu hadlayo "Watar" lama yiraahdo, waxaa la yiraahdaa "wadhar," si laguu fahmo, haddii kale gaalada dhoore ayey kuu malaynayaan nooh. Ma garatay. Yaakhay odaygaan sidee u galaa, weligiis ma ilbaxaayo ka waran. Aabbe, maalin dhaweydna waan ku maqlaayey," Bay Raxmo hadalkii si xanaaq leh u raacisay, "Markaad nimanka ku laheyd "i]Minasoota[/i] ayaan la hadlay." Sow kuma oran lama dhaho "Minasoota," waxaa loogu dhawaaqaa "Minasoodha," ma i garatay!? Duqa ha na ceebeyn yaakhay!" Iyadoo Raxmo iska eegaysa saaxiibkeed Warlord. "Afka iyo bishimaha qal-qalooci markaad af Ingiriiska ku hadlayso, haye dheh, aabbe." Caku iyo af shisheeye! Faarax oo gariiraya, dhiigana uu aad u karayo, aroorayaasha iyo halbowlayaasha dhiiguna ay taq-taqayaan baa isagoo aan is ogeyn taleefankii iska dhigay, oo dib u laqay cundhuuftii caro darteed. Marna isagoo la yaaban innantiisa Raxmo ee u gacan gashay Word Lord, marna aan garaneyn hadal meel uu ka bilaabo; marna ka arga-gaxsan "Warlord" ayuu salka dhigay mar kale. "Ma dhamaysay warqadii isbitaalka?" Bay Raxmo weyddiisay aabbaheed. "May, waxaan garan waayey ereyo badan," Faarax oo aad u calool-xun ayaa ku jawaabay, isagoo hadba il-nugul oo baqdin sida isaga eegaya Warlord oo had iyo jeer marna u ilka cadaynaya. Dabadeed hadalkii wuxuu ku daray: "Horta...ee...waxaan ku weyddiinayaa, ma waxaa la yiraahdaa: "I sleep in the bed mise I sleep on the bed, mise I sleep over the bed? Keebaa sax ah?" Caku iyo af shisheeye! "Xafiiska Adeega Bulshada ayaa i soo faray inaan soo qoro warqad aan xanuunkayga uga sheekaynayo." Raxmo qosol ayey la fuurtay; qosol aan dhab aheyn waxaa ka daba xooray Warlord oo aan runtii si fiican u fahmin ujeeddada hadalka, balse gartay sleep (hurdo)iyo bed (sariir). Warlord si kale ayuu sheekada u fahmay. Waxaa mala-awaalkiisa khaldan ku sii taageeray qosolka dheer ee Raxmo afkeeda ka soo haajiray. Caku iyo af shisheeye! "Aabbe soo qaado buugga aniga ayaa kuu yeerinaya," Raxmo oo ka yara xumaatay aragga naxdinta leh ee ka muuqda wejiga aabbaheed iyo hooyadeed ayaa ka codsatay. Aamusnaan yar dabeed ayuu Faarax soo haabtay buuggii iskuulka laga soo siiyey, si uu u barto afka shisheeye ee lagu xiray xoriyada noloshiisa oo dhan; si uu u qaato lacagta cayrta, una qaato dal kumar (baasaboor) Ingiriis ah. Dhibka Faarax iyo Kaltuun ka haysta afka shisheeye waxaa u dheer iyagoo aan dalka ka bixi karin, waayo ma haystaan dal-ku-mar, waana ku qasban yihiin inay bartaan afka shisheeye, si ay u gaaraan yoolkooda. "Marka hore waxaad qortaa isliib (sleep)." Goortuu Faarax qoray xarafka "S" ayuu weydiiyey gabadhiisa Raxmo: "Is-l-ii-l..ee "isliib" (sleep) B'adu ma B'ada Eebbe baryeysaa oo uu madaxeedu samada u jeedo, mise waa B'ada foorarta ee madaxa hoos u rogotay, oo balaayo u jooga ah, waa tee labadooda?" Caku iyo af shisheeye! Raxmo qosol weyn ayaa ka soo haaday, iyaadoo leh ee waa, "p for pen nooh. Ma garaneysid miyaa aabbe? Ma'aha b for book." Caku iyo af shisheeye! "Aabbe xarafka "Sda" waa ooynaysaa, way cabanaysaa, dan-daro iyo dibin-daabyo ayey sheeganaysaa; sidaa awgeed, sidaa doono wax uguma qori karo," Faarax oo weli argaggaxsan baa u sheegay gabadhiisa. In cabbaar kolkuu warqadii qoray Faarax, isagoo la kaashanaya innantiisa Raxmo, mar walbana ka boodaya xarafka "Sda," isagoo u arka in la hagardaameeyey, oo ay u baahan tahay in la baanto ayuu si kedis ah ula soo baaday erey malaha aad u dhibay naftiisa, isagoo leh: "Aabbe, maxay had iyo goor u yiraahdaan "afraid?" Waxaa la ii sheegay cabsida inay tahay. Waxaad ka maqali had iyo goor, "I am afraid, I can't help you." Caku iyo af shisheeye! Kalkaalisada Caafimaadka habeen dhaweyd waxaan ugu jawaabay (mar ee i tiri "I am afraid"), "Eebbe ka cabso, aniga ha iga cabsan, garan maayo inay i fahamtay iyo in kale." Caku iyo af shisheeye! "Waxaan rabaa inaan u sheego Waaxda Adeega Arrimaha Bulshada laba arrimood in ay wax igala qabtaan: B: In gebi ahaanba afka Ingiriiska laga masaxo ereyga "warlord," waayo wadne xanuunka ereygaas ayaan ka qaaday. Afka Ingiriiskana waxaan la baran waayey ereygaas dartiis. T: Muxuu ahaa...Ereyga kale aan doon-doonayo magaciisu muxuu ahaa... Caku iyo af shisheeye! ________________ W/Q Samatar Sooyaan.

Salaan... Guraad, I would've loved to see your thoughts if Puntland had kicked some Soomaalis from there. Anyway, as pathetic and poignant as it may seem, we Soomaalis are accustomed to situations like this. This is not the first time something like this happened. When Soomaalis are mad with one another, situations like this happen. It happened in Xamar in 1991/92 when USC tried to cleanse Xamar from some circles of Soomaalis from their rightful homes, some innocent folks. It happened in Baydhabo in 1991 kicking Cumar Jees and his "people" {read tribe}, some innocent, from Baay and Bakool regions. It is still happening in those divided cities of Beled Weyne and Gaalkacyo, where purely one clan lives one side, while their "nemesis" live the other side, not allowing themselves to mix freely. That is how dismal and pathetic situation we are in. Sad, yes. However, I might say this is the first time without any justification save the "you-are-not-from-this-region" rhetoric some Soomaalis had been kicked from other Soomaali lands. Soomaali Ilaahaa u maqan, koleey hanoo wada gar gaaro: Aamiin. ________________ Ciid Wanaagsan.

Salaan... I might not be a sister and the question certainly never was intended for me, however this whole saga about jilbaab is overrated. To those who wear it, great. But what happened to our own cultured Soomaali clothing? Whatever happened to garbasaar, shaash, qamaar, sifaleeti, guntiino, garees, shaalka naagaha, baati, etc. What happened? Were they "un-Islamic" clothes? A lady who wears garbasaar with shaash or sifaleeti is as modest to me as any jilbaab-wearing woman, honestly. And plus, it is "our" culture. Since when we shunned a sifaleeti with garbasaar and substituted it with jilbaab. My God, what happened? Or is that we embraced Islam on the late 1980s {when jilbaab penetrated on the mainstream of Soomaali culture}? What did our mothers/aunts use to wear before late '80s was certainly in some aspects of Islam. Yes, some might have been un-Islamic practices, but garbasaar was certainly within Islamic frame-point. Yes, it is a personal choice, however some circles believe strongly that garbasaar is not Islamic "enough" but jilbaab is. Give me a freakin' break. To be honest with you all, when I see a Soomaali lady wearing garbasaar {not the fashionable one with dirac-matching, save that for aroos} with of course her sifaleeti covering her hair makes my Soomaalihood proud. A lot prouder than a jilbaab-wearing woman. Certainly our mothers, grandmothers, aunts, sisters were not wrong by wearing garbasaaro. Alas, it is unfortunate that we shunned our Islamic culture with "other" Islamic cultures. And don't start with me Arabic-style xijaab. Yes, this Arabic-style xijaab can be convenient to those who live in Western countries, however since when it became the "official" xijaab? All those sisters who live in the West wear that kind of xijaab thinking it is the correct one "only." Preserve the Islamic Soomaali culture, which aren't that many. And don't ask me to define for you what Soomaali "culture" is. Nah! Ciid Wanaagsan and I hope you are all going to wear garbasaaro to salaada ciidda tomorrow. Like ^^^^^^ her. :cool: ________________ Macsalaama.

Salaan... Horta, Ciid Wanaagsan abaayadiis {assuming you are a sister }. This case is deplorable to say the least. While the Canadian government's mute and taciturn official responses relating to this case is lamentable, and while mistreatments and abuse by the U.S. government is also appalling, however the cruel and torture by the Syrian government {according to Mahir Carar himself} to an innocent man their officials knew themselves was innocent make my blood boil with rage. What really makes this frenzy get a lot of ire from me personally is that Suuriya did this dirty business of torturing this person only to please the American officials {whom under some so-called international law cannot torture any person on their soil}. What is more worse than to please Bush regime, which doesn't recognize the Syrian regime themselves, by tormenting a fellow Muslim, Carab citizen with absolutely no evidence relating him to any group whatsoever. And what further makes ironic is that he wasn't directly deported to Suuriya, but Jordan was transit gateway. The Bush regime didn't deport him directly to Syria because they don't deal directly with the officials from government of Syria. If it weren't his wife, who worked tirelessly to bring her husband back to Canada; if it weren't Thomas Walkom, an excellent columinist from the Toronto Star; and if it weren't some federal NDP officials, Maher Arar would have remained today in that "grave" cell he lived during his imprisonment in Suuriya. Thank God he is safe and with his family now. __________________ P.S., I am having second thoughts travelling to U.S. by air because this Canadian passport of mine has several visas from Kenya, Emirates and other European countries which I am afraid the dim-witted officials manning the immigration checkpoints may give you hard time. Perhaps it is about time I start using my precious green Soomaali passport. __________________ Ciid Wanaagsan.

Salaan... This reminds me to a story this barbiyeeri guy was telling us the other day. Those two Jaamacis knew one another in back Soomaaliya and then war came, losing to have contact. Fortunately, both came to Tansaaniya. They met incidently in one crowded daylight at a suuq in Dara-Salaam. One was called Burhaan. When both saw one another, the other called Burhaan from distance, shouting, "Waa kuma...waa kuma...!" {just imagine how a typical Jaamac shouts} To the astonishment of Tanzanian folks who were already surprised, Burhaan responded "Waa Burhaan*!" They started hugging. Tanzanians were dumbfounded, thinking those two folks are insulting the ultimate and hugging one another. _______________ * Burhan is a slang word in Tanzanian Sawaaxili, and I can't translate what it means in here. ________________ Soon Wanaagsan.

Salaan... Originally posted by Bishaaro: I'm one of those who always wanted to be older. When I was younger, I would hang out at times with the older girls. I would make it a point to listen to discussions that my parents had with some of their friends on the political issues of the day. I was always older than my years. I liked older people, they seemed to have it going on. My ex was even 8 years older than me. Woow. You almost described how I feel around with older people. I always was like that. When I was younger I couldn't stand with my "fac" whenever they used to talk about futile, useless topics, such as banooni, basketball, about movies and everything ciyaal fac used to play, including kuun kuun, kadhimeey kadhim, anbali iyo wixii lamid ah. So, I always found myself with older people, having more interest with them than my ciyaal fac. And especially when it used to get topics about politics. I used to remember listening BBC Soomaali with older people and listening afterward their analysis and debates about the heated Soomaali politics. I still am, even though those who are in my age have now caught with me in adulthood. _________________ Soon Wanaagsan.