Originally posted by Action Jackson: MMA,,, can you get the correct URL of the Ethio... forum.. seems like its down or something.. Duqa, it seems to be down, maba ogi sababta, xaleey lee caadi ahayd meeshaas. Laakiin fiiri <A HREF="http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:3ptDa9ayu7QJ:www.ethioindex.com/medrek/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D37297++site:http://www.ethioindex.com+Somali&hl=en&client=firefox-a ">this old thread too, cached from google. And if you wants the URLs, here it is, but still, it isn't working: http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:fD9CggaLIxgJ:www.ethioindex.com/medrek/viewforum.php%3Ff%3D1+ethioindex+forum&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Salaan... Folks, I was searching something related to Soomaalis, and quickly came across this thread ee ila aqriya bal: In the city I live in there are so many Somalis. I like my brothers and sisters from the East and nor do I have any hard feelings but why why why do they have to talk so loud all the time in public... I just spent 30 minutes at a coffee place during lunch to catch up on some reading and there was this Somali guy half way across this big sitting area and everyone, I mean everyone in the coffee shop could hear him talk on the phone. Of course, we don’t know what he was talking about and I don’t care but why does he have to talk so loud? It was so embarrassing. This is what gives us bad names. The problem is, the white {bolds mine} folks can’t tell the difference between Ethiopians and Somali and take as the same. I am embarrassed!!! By another Amxaar/Tigrey poster: I was trying to buy a phone card, Man it tooks me a long time to talk to the grocery store owner. These two gentel men from somali never stop talking. It is hard to interrupt. they don't care about you unless, you keep your mouth open like them. I think they have a luck of respect for others. I don't mean all somalis. You can't compare them with our poeple. Our people have more discipline and respect to others better than any other African countries. From an Itoobiyan forum. _____________ PS, to those who wrote the above sentences, just in case you are reading now as I happened to yours: @#$&% OFF!

the differences between a jilbaab and an abaya When Soomaali people talk about "jilbaab" and "abaya," only two styles come to mind, which is: When a Soomaali says jilbaab, what s/he means is what this lady is wearing. Other Muslims have different, wider meansings for this word. This is the Soomaali interpretation of the word "abaya." It is this one Saudi style that most comes to mind. Soomaali sisters do not wear this, safe for few sisters that live in Saudi Arabia. When a Soomaali says "khmar" or khamaar in Soomaali, this is what they mean, the head covering only. It is also called in Soomaali "sifaleeti." When Soomaalis talk about "hijab" this is what they mean, that head-to-shoulder covering. In Soomaali, it is spelled xijaab. This being a Soomaali-style of covering. Most of our ladies cover like this, like the two ladies on far right. how is a hajib properly worn? What sorts of restrictions are on the style of these pieces It depends on who you ask. It is generally agreed, though, that the hair, neck and shoulder is standard covering of hijab. And those women you saw wearing "Calvin Klein scarves," to them, at least, they are thinking they are wearing "proper" hijab. As it is said, each has her own interpretation. We have no reason or intention to judge, and they are plenty ingorant folks who rush to do so.

Salaan... It truly and finally dawned on me the true definition of "global village" the other day. I was online MSN and my sister and her children came online with her camera turned on at their home in Xamar. I would have never expected this sooner to happen a house in Xamar hooked to the Internet 24 hours a day and on camera and voice-chatting. Magoow waala hormaray.

Salaan... Hada kahor aan aqriye qoraalkaan aan soo guurin doono oo aan ka aqriye magasiin ama joornaal la dhaho Haboon {ku magac fiicanaa} oo laga helo dhamaan meelahee Soomaalida ku oofan tahay, laakiin laguna daabaco Miniyaanabolis. Aqriso wacan. ________________ Taariikh ahan hab dhaqameedka guursiga gabdhaha Soomaaliyed waxa uu ahaa mid soo taxnaa intii Soomaaliya jirtay, waxaana uu u kala baxaa mid dhow iyo mid khaas ah. Guurka dhow waa kan xigtadu is guursato, kan dheerina waa kan labo qof oo abtiris ahaan kala fogi isguursadaan, waana kan Soomaalidu jeceshahay. Nooc kasta ha noqdee, hab dhaqanka guurka dumarka Soomaaliyeed waxa uu soo maray qaabab iyo marxalado badan oo aad u kala duwan, kuwaas oo iskugu jira kuwan caam ah oo lagaga dhaqmo dhamaan geyiga Soomaaliyeed iyo kuwa ku eg meelo gaar ah. Waxaa tusaale ahaan usoo qaadan karnaa kugu ugu waa weyn, oo kala ah: Boojaal, labixida hablaha, dumaalida, bixinta hablaha, qoofaalka, hareenka, udub-qabsi, qudba-sireeda, IWM. Boojaal: Waxaa uu ahaa qab dhaqameed guursi aad u qalafsanaa, kaas oo la kala dhici jiray gabdhaha iyo xoolaha ay la joogto, kadibna sidaas baa lagu guursan jiray, xurmo iyo xiddidnimo midna malahayn, waxayna keeni jirtay iska hor imaadyo dhiig ku daato. Taasi maanta waa mid dabar go'day dalka Soomaaliyeed. Qafaalka Hablaha {dhabar garaac}: Waxa uu ahaa guursi aad u qalafsan oo gabdhaha xoog lagu muquunin jiray, taas oo go lagu ridan jiray ama faras fankiis lagu qaadi jiray, inkasto oo u dhac ahaa hadana gabdhaha sidaas lagu guursado, waa la is kula xiddi jiray. Nooca guurkani waa mid maanta ka sal guuray dalka Soomaaliyeed. Heeranka Hablaha: Waxa uu ahaa qaab guursi hore oo hablaha Soomaaliyeed iyaga oo calaf doon ah inta ay reerkooda ka tagaan bay cido kale u tagaan. Inta badan hablahaas xil weyn baa la iska saari jiray, siiba duqayda reerkaas. Waxayna siin jireen raga fiican oo ay hubaan in ay gabdhaha si fiican u dhaqaan. Gabdhaha habkan lagu guursado si fiican baa loogu xiddidi jiray. La Bixida Hablaha {La Roorka}: Waa qaab guursi caan ah oo illaa maanta ka jira dalka Soomaaliyeed, miyi iyo magaalaba, marka hore way isa shukaansadaan ka dibna way isla baxaan. Waxaana la isla tagaa meel masafo ah oo lagu meheriyo. Dumaal: Waa hab dhaqan guursi ah oo muddo soo taxnaa illaa hadana si caam ahaana ugu jira dhulka Soomaaliyeed. Waxaa uu dhacaa markii naag nin leh uu ka dhinto, waxa naagtii dumaala marxuumka walaalihiis ama xigtadiis. Qudba Sireed: Waa guur qarsoodi ah oo ee ay og yihiin labada is guursatay, wadaadka wax mehershay iyo markhaatiyaasha oo keliya. WAana waxa ay ku heshiiyeen labada is guursatay, taas oo laga yaabo in ka baqeen ragbasho dhaca sida xaasaska kale. Udub Qabsi: Waa hab gabadhu inta ay nin dush ka jeclaato gasho ninka gurigooda, waxayna ay qabsataa udub-dhexaadka ama sariirtiisa, waxaan caado inta badan ah in halkaas gabadha lagu meheriyo ama xaal weyn la siiyo. Nooca guurkani illaa hada wuu jiraa. Bixinta Hablaha: Waa hab dhaqan guur ee soo taxnaa muddo dheer, illaa maantana waa mid si caam ahaan ah ugu jira dalka Soomaaliyeed. Soomaalidu waxa ay gabdhaha isu siiyaan siyaabo faro badan, hadaan tusaale idiin siiyo waxaa kamid ah: Doonis: Waa gabadha la bixiyo kadib markii labo beelood ay isu soo gole fariistaan, isna weydiistaan gabadhaas. Waxaa gabadhaas laga qaadan jiray gabanti, waxaana loo dhigi jiray dadab oo ayahd in gabadha iyo ninka la siiyey ay isku arkaan. Godobtir: Si loo soo af jaro colaada labo beelood waxaa dhici jirtay in marka magta la bixinaayo la raacsiiyo gabar godobtir ah oo la siiyo wiilasha reerka dhibaatadu gaartay, halkaas oo midkood guursado. Waxaa bixiyo reerka eedaysanaha ah halkaas oo inta badan xiriir wanaagsani dhexmaro dhibahana iyo eedaysanaha. Xigsiisan: Waa naagta oo dhimatay walaasheed oo la siiyo ninkii ay ka dhimatay haddii uu nin fiican yahay. Ku Xamaynta: Waa hablaha oo la siiyo dadka Soomaalidu aad u qadariso madaxda hogaamo dhaqameedka ah, sida: ugaas, suldaan, culimada iyo qofkii uu waalidku damco, iwm. Xurmada Xiddidka: Xurmada xiddidku waa waxa ugu muhiimsan oo qiimo iyo qaayo weyn ku leh dhammaan ummada Soomaaliyeed meel kasta ee joogaan, belad iyo baadiye, dibeda iyo dalkaba. Dadka xiddidka ah waxa ugu weyn ee inta badan dhexmara waxa kamid ah dad, hanti iyo xiriir wacan. __________________ Haboon, Agoosto 2004.

Salaan... These "biased" {read above} and "jealous of the new ministers" xildhibaano are the same people who voted C/laahi Yuusuf into presidency two months ago, and they were applauded. Now they are exercising their xuriyad, dacaayad aa lagu sameynaa. For our information, they were 200 or so xildhibaano in that decision making day. More than 150 voted kalsooni in laga noqsado dowlada, two were against and the rest abstained. I don't think 150 of them all were "jealous." Some of course were, but some other significant members had a legitimate concerns too. Axdiga kumeelgaarka waa lagu tuntay, starting from the day wasiirka koowaad la magacaabay. Some were against wasiirada tirada badan, where one wasaarad was divided into three branches just to satisfy and find a position for a suu and hoobiye owner.

Salaan... The xildhibaano {I don't know qof ee xil dhab ah u hayaan} are simply extending their "vacation" time in Neyroobi, thus voting kalsooni kala noqoshada dowladaan xataa umusha ka bixin. Now, another around, another month of "consultation" that will possibly be held at New Stanley, at Corner House, etc, by again naming the old ministers, same old faces with new shirts, if at all. Who needs to go to a dusty and hot Soomaali city when you are vacationing in the ultimate comfy beds of the likes 680 iyo Hilton hotels. The only people who are surely happy about this fiasco are Kiinyaati businessmen, those who own those hotels. I hope he, the ra'iisul wasaaraha, changes wasiirada this time, making them limited to maximum 20 important wasaarado, and starting from wasiirka arimaha dibada, that guy who flew to Amxaar kingdom of Addis Ababa the very moment he was named, "signing" mutual relationships and "treaties" shouldn't be in that position.

Salaan... I see my brother didn't make the list this time, so I am officially against this newly nominated armaajo, err cabinet. At least he should have been given Wasiirka Jacburiska portfolio. Darn you so-called Sheekh Aadan Uuloow Kuuloow Madoowe for stealing my brother's seat.

Salaan... Soomaali Galbeed maalintee ahaataba wee soo noqonee, insha allaah. Hope ma laga quursado, dadkii naftooda u quurayna dagaalkii 77 ee lagu hoobtay iyo sanadihii ka danbeeye Eebe ha u naxariisto dhamaantood, aamiin. The capture of Jigjiga and beyond of Soomaali Galbeed in 1978: Original caption: Soldiers of the Western Somali Liberation Front pile on the back of a tractor for the drive to the front. They were leaving from Jigjiga. Rag waa kuwaasaa, and as they said rag waa kuwii hore, hadalka waa intuu yiri. Original caption: Cuban soldier Carlos Orlando, 20, (foreground with overcoat) talks to reporters here 1/27 {1978} following his capture by Somali insurgents... By "here" they meant the village of Tuug Wajaale, Soomaali Galbeed.

Salaan... Soomaali Galbeed maalintee ahaataba wee soo noqonee, insha allaah. Hope ma laga quursado, dadkii naftooda u quurayna dagaalkii 77 ee lagu hoobtay iyo sanadihii ka danbeeye Eebe ha u naxariisto dhamaantood, aamiin. The capture of Jigjiga and beyond of Soomaali Galbeed in 1978: Original caption: Soldiers of the Western Somali Liberation Front pile on the back of a tractor for the drive to the front. They were leaving from Jigjiga. Rag waa kuwaasaa, and as they said rag waa kuwii hore, hadalka waa intuu yiri. Original caption: Cuban soldier Carlos Orlando, 20, (foreground with overcoat) talks to reporters here 1/27 {1978} following his capture by Somali insurgents... By "here" they meant the village of Tuug Wajaale, Soomaali Galbeed.

Salaan... Soomaali Galbeed maalintee ahaataba wee soo noqonee, insha allaah. Hope ma laga quursado, dadkii naftooda u quurayna dagaalkii 77 ee lagu hoobtay iyo sanadihii ka danbeeye Eebe ha u naxariisto dhamaantood, aamiin. The capture of Jigjiga and beyond of Soomaali Galbeed in 1978: Original caption: Soldiers of the Western Somali Liberation Front pile on the back of a tractor for the drive to the front. They were leaving from Jigjiga. Rag waa kuwaasaa, and as they said rag waa kuwii hore, hadalka waa intuu yiri. Original caption: Cuban soldier Carlos Orlando, 20, (foreground with overcoat) talks to reporters here 1/27 {1978} following his capture by Somali insurgents... By "here" they meant the village of Tuug Wajaale, Soomaali Galbeed.

Salaan... I am an avid reader of comic strips, beginning in '98. But for one thing and the for the most part, Dilbert is deliberately delivered as a blank humour strip, not my kinda cup of shaah. However, others, yeah, like: Foxtrot Zits Sherman's Lagoon Piranha Club Curtis Blondie And others.

Salaan... Many songs by Cabdijibaar Al khaliiji, especially "Alam Dheh" I believe Alam dheh alam gariiroow oo hiroow hirig dheh... was originally sung by Cali Jareere. You can find it on Hiiraan Online music section, at the bottom. Or you can download from here the new one by Cabdijabaar Khaliiji. Aniga heesaha aa ka danbeeyo: Cabdi Tahliil Warsame {Onkod} Sulfa {heesihiis dhan} Faadumo Qaasim {aawey hee aaragiis ma iloobinee...waxaan u ooya ooya cawada...} Luul Jeylaani {baxsanaa baxsanaa, alla wiilka baxsanaa... iyo cunto waa cuni waayeeee, cawadii waa hurdi waayeee.....ceelaaaaaaaaaan ku dhacee ku cariirsamayee...} Cumar Shooli {heesihiis dhan dhamaantood} Caasha Cabdoow {iloow, iloow...} Seynab Cige {qabrigii jaceylkoow, quraankaa ku mariyee...} Shimaali Axmed Shimaali {kalifoorniyaa tagee, kanada markaan u socday...anigoo kulyeeri kor saaran ayaa gabar kuusan oo madoow...wataa....hadii kale waxaan lahaa....aaheey} Magool {anoo idileey, aroos kuula gala...asluub badanoow, udgoon badanoow...sidii ubaxii u udgoon badanoow iyo heesta wadaniga kuftay, kuftay, dhacday, dhacday ayaad taqaan...} Xasan Aadan Samatar {iyeeyoow iyeeyoow} Maryan Mursan {soomaalida u diida ceeb, naftiina u diida...} Saado Cali {dalkeyga waa jeclahay, dadkeyga waa jeclahaaaaaaaaay..} Binti Camaari Iyo kuwii la iloobay.

Salaan... Sax waaye, duqa, laakiin adiga ayaaba ka dartay oo erayada si fiican u sixin. Kasoo qaad tusaale ahaan waxaa qortay "Baidabo" ama "Somali" ama "Galkacyo" ama "Kismayo" ama "Somalia." Intaasba hadii Soomaali ahaan loo qoro sax ma'aha. Somali=Soomaali Baidabo=Baydhabo {ama Baydhaba} Galkacyo=Gaalkacyo Kismayo=Kismaayo Somalia=Soomaaliya Soomaali badan ayaa shaqal dheernimada ka tagaan, kasnimo ha ugu ahaato ama si kaleba ha u ahaato. Isticmaalida shaqal dheerka waa muhiim, aad iyo aad waliba, waana sababta koowaad loo doortay in afka loogu qoro "Laatiin" maxaa yeelay Carabi hadii loo qori lahaa, shaqal dheer ama shaqal gaab ahaan af Soomaali waa ku suurtoobi weysay. Waa waxa kala saaraayo gal iyo gaal, ama bur iyo buur. Waa kugu raacsanahay rayigaaga, sidaas ku wad dadaalka.

Ilaahey ha u naxariisto hooyo. Cafis, samir iyo iimaan ilaahey hakaa siiyo.

Originally posted by juxa: ps wont it be nice if everyone used their own pic as aviotar? What the hell, here it is: See how safe Xamar is, for I can even stand on the street and take tons of pictures, just like a typical tourist in a strange land PS: O-G-Moti, you have every permission to sell this frame, but if the profit is more than one dollar, you have to divide it equally, 50/50. The day you sell, ha iloobin, Dahabshiil soo dhig, Maalmo ka bacdi waa laga bixin doonaa, ka gaar hadaba.

Salaan... I once--in about three years ago--read an intriguing printed e-mails exchanged by Khaalid bin Waliid and this TROID organization. The proponents were Afras Barqash (I call him that, though it is Baksh) from Khaalid and a senior member on behalf of TROID. I was surprised. The e-mails contained the wildest insults and furthest allegations beyond that you would think those were truck-drivers, iska dhaafee wadaado surwaalgaabtay. And I still remember at the same time one vivid Friday khudba that same Afras Barqash was on the podium, very emotional and appealing and refuting those who were accusing him some allegations he said he had never said. Alas half of congregants who were there at that particular Friday khudba had no idea what he was talking about. I too wouldn't had I not read the exchanged e-mails prior. Both of those Islamic organizations on the surface seem undistinguished, and I still can't distinguish what are their inner squabbling about. Anyway, when I saw this, it reminded me the years back then and I thus went both of their websites now and searched each regarding the other, the Khaalid site doesn't have any archives about TROID; however TROID does have regarding about Khaalid and here is the part of e-mail I read and what that khudba based on: "The first question is in regards to the disgusting, erroneous jargon sputtered from the mouth of Afraaz Baksh in which the hizbee lied, 'Let’s look at Shaykh Ahmad Ibn Hanbal... We refer him and we defend him; he is the Imaam of Ahlus-Sunnah but how many times you can prove him, I am not to prove him, the ‘Ulamaa can prove him that he (Imaam Ahmad) has went away from Ahlus-Sunnah in aspects of ‘Aqeedah.' (Note: this is a direct audible quote from Baksh himself, the grammatical errors belong to him. He speaks with broken English as anyone who has seen his book would have noticed.)" Some more I found: "Regarding the wretched Hizbee masjid, Khaalid Ibnul-Waleed, Hasan as-Sumaalee {Soomaali} stated, 'Munajjid is on their site...the Imaam of this masjid...he is at war with the manhaj of the salaf, criticizes the ‘Ulamaa.. he is far from the Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jama’ah. I listened to one of the people of this masjid (Afraaz Baksh) and he stated that Imaam Ahmad made mistakes in manhaj! Imaam Ahmad has no mistakes in manhaj. I went to Shaykh Muqbil myself and he said the hizbees are liars! Likewise from them you see members of al-Itihaad (Qutbee, Surooree Neo-Khaarajees) who kill Muslims (in Somalia). They are at war with ‘Ahlus-Sunnah. This is a masjid of hizbiyyah. The brothers at TROID phoned Shaykh Rabee’, Ignore these people and continue with the da’wah. These people will continue upon hizbiyyah. You hear them claim the sunnah and yet they spread the tapes of the people of innovation. I heard one say ‘Bashir is the muhaddith of Canada’, who appointed him as this? Where is your ijaazah? Come and produce it, there are no scholars in the west. Why would he be elevated, so that he would be listened to… everyone is a Shaykh, masha’Allaah, Canada has hundreds of mashaykh. Why? To keep you in darkness... don’t give him knowledge. Even if you bring them tapes of the haqq, they reject it, why? Because they are their people." _________________ You might also find some message by Khaalid masaajid that is equally offensive. This is one of the reasons surwaalgaab waa hore warkooda iska dhaafay. They are extremely intolerant to one another and bicker the slightest differences. Khaalid masaajid doesn't sell books by Siraaj Wahaaj and some notable North American Islamic scholars, including Xamsa Yuusuf. I can understand in the case of Xamsa, but Siraaj? Ilaahey ha u wada gargaaro wadaadadeen. Hadeeba iyaga saan yihiin, maxaa noo dhiman.

Salaan... Ciid wanaagsan kuli. Gabarta-Dahabiga, sheekadaa sidaas fasiix ma u ahayn, laakiin let the Xaaji Dhagax {that is me} try. Libaax==Malaka mawd Ceelka iyo maska ==Qabuurahaaga {godka ku sugi doono} Wadaanta {ama xariga}==Nolosha Dooliga cad iyo kan madoow==Maalinta iyo habeenka Malabka==Nolosha macaan ee dunida aan ku jirno oo aakhiro na iloowsiineyso {yacni, dhalinyaro hadii la yahay waxaa loo badan yahay reero kalaab (club) aadoow, reero tumasho, reera balwad, reera iska baashaal, reera raaxeyso, iwm, aan iska nahnay, oo aakhiro fikirkeeda gadaal la iskaga dhigaa, mala isku taxluujiyo} So am I not foorto, xariif iyo qatar? __________________ Before maansha-allaah pours, a little admission</A That was qash

Salaan... Ciid Wanaagsan, horta. Folks, has anyone ever been to Shalambood? Our little, small desert-like dunes.

Originally posted by Soomajeeste: :confused: I only see countries and their representatives......is there more to it? You are right, there is nothing wrong with this thread or what it conveyed. However, there are assumptions, presumptions and afterthoughts people took for as a subtle underlining message in the post. Earlier in this week, it was reported, C/laahi Yuusuf and his entourage wanted to go to Masar, they were rebuffed, allegedly, by Xusni Mubaarak. He instead re-routed his plane to Sacuudiya. His detractors jeered. Now, he is going to Qaahiro, his supporters are cheering, even if it was under the pretext of tacsi. It is just a little silly Soomaali politics. *Note: This analyzing involves purely assuming the presumptions.

Salaan... We've had seen those Pharaonic cave markings and what other ancient cultures left behind, but do we have one of our own? Let's see. These are ancient cave markings found in Taleex. As you would have expected what a typical Soomaali would have thought preparing to mark an image on a wall, a camel is given a prominent space This ought to be studied further From outside Perhaps those are the fortress Sayidka lived, I guess, thus not that ancient{?} ___________________ These pictures were taken in 1980, so I still hope that they are still standing firm.

Salaan... Aw Tuujiye (in the middle, waji danbaska uulka eh) oo wali darbi-saar ku jiro ficiisana Lafoole ee lafaha iskaga jibiyeen intee waxbarasho dhameeyeen. Waraa Istuujiye, darbigaas waakaa ashahaaday ee amaan sii.

Salaan... Nationalist, saxiiboow, they are not mine. They are found on the net, if you try, you can as well. I've saved them on my PC, and if you still want to see some more, I'm obliged then. These are from Buur and its surroundings. Also from other towns that I found in same website. Beled Weyne Beled Weyne Berbera Luuq Luuq Luuq

Salaan...

Salaan... Folks, what's the sudden fascination with Buur Hakabe? Wah. Oh, perhaps, I guess it was all about that song by Xasan Aadan Samatar: Hakaba banaanshee Buurtoo ki taaloo Banooda le eree Balantayni haaytee Baabuur ma raa'aaw Eey iila buubee Eey iila buubee Libaax, Buur Hakabe xaa iga galay, widaay. Anu Nugaal ki kooye, i weydii meeshaas. LOL. Buur Hakaba (hakab stands for an old word denoting something that is both qadiim and qiimo leh, or in other word "treasure") is one of the oldest inland Southern towns of the country. Anyway, here are some pictures: