Aaheey!! Hadii kale wuxuu lahaa[?] Wataa.

Miskiin, Good question. Why would an Eritrean be so passionate about A/Y and Somali politics? OLOL might want to minimalize his concern and involvement with Somali politics by portraying himself as an outsider although his profund passion and deeply felt disagreements with A/Y, manifested sometimes in his insults aimed at A/Y, is an obvious clue to who he is ethnically, a somali to be exact. A/Y didn't harm or can harm Eritrea politically or otherwise so there is no reason for an Eritrean to be upset with him or be passionate about Somali politics. OLOL is as somali as anyone of us. No body labelled him to be Eritrean. He himself admitted. That's where it gets interesting. Here is a partial quote from his admission: "I would have done and gone to Eritrean Forums but I know nothing about Eritrea, the land of my great-great grandfathers. I am more Somali than you all. My loyalty is to Somalia and Somalia alone. I prescribe to no clan and fortunately all of my grandmothers are from different Somali clans. This makes me the most unflustered Somali national. I prescribe to no clan nonesense and but I despise certain clans because of their clannish attitude." For somebody who has "no clan" association, his venom against a certain clan in this forum is noticeable. It isn't healthy, especially if you are a self-admitted outsider. If you love Soomaaliya and your loyalty lies with it, the least and best thing to do is stay out from the sickness endemic and entangled qabyaalad politics of Soomaalida.

Salaan... Maki Xaaji Banaadir, Eebba ugu hideeye sida sahlan ee ereyada la iskugu toosiyo. Gacan iyo nus ayaan u taagay. Shiribkaan (shirib miyaa horta? Saar?) hoos ku qoran oo loogu magac daray Wamal Xayaatul Dunyaa ila Mataacul Quruur waxaa la alifay, saan filaayo, shirkii Carte ee Jabuuti lagu qabtay sanadkii 2000. Cajal aan wali haayo oo shirkaas laga soo duubay ayuu ka qaaday, oo xataa madaxweynihii Jabuuti Ismaaciil Cumar Geelle oo nafta ka baxday suu ugu qoslaaye cajalkaas ku jiro. [Qeybta hoos ku qoran ma'aha qeybtaas oo qosolka miiran ah.] Shiribkaan mid dheer oo kala baxa ayuu ahaa, laakiin intaan ayaa soo guurinaa hada. Mar haddeey madaxdeena madasha toos u furaan Murunka soo afjaraan Muujiyaan is walaashi & mowduuc nabadeed Maslaxo caam ah dhisaan Masaakiinta caruurta Maatida heer tabareedka In mudnaanta la siiyo Midnimo loogu adeego Moxogoodana u xirtaan wax macaan badan waaye Oon ku miirsan kareyno maskaxdeen ku dageysoo Muraalkeen ku dhismaayo Muuse shaah iga dhiib Macoow haashka isii Maaxi koostar isaar Maanaboolyo igeey Muxudiin alif keen Maadeey qaam iska baar Mursal ii macbileey xaajiyayaasha midood ood macruufo tihiin Madiinaan u socdaa Ama meel uun ku sheeg Maska diirta cambuulo iyo madaalka galeey Inaan maanta niraahno Mehered noo noqon meyso Mustaqbalaa la rabaa Rajo muuqan kareysoo miraheed la cunaayo Masaariifta caruurta Mugdi beey ku jirtaa Marasho, madaxsaar iyo minan ijaar ma awoodno Mushahar meel laga dhiibo Oo maciishadda suuqda Maamulka qoyska Lagu moodi karaayo Marhoraa u dambeysay Inaan meesha yuurarnoo Maalin daa'in marqaano Waa marduuf ama qeyb Majin iyo qoriyaal maskaxdeen ku duqeyno Meherad noo noqon meyso Mustaqbalaa la rabaa Rajo muuqan kareeysoo Miraheed la cunaayo Mufumeento la'aanta Mashaalkilka taagan Macbuudoow naga mooti Maslaxo caam ah nasii Inaan maanta niraahno meesha waa ku jirtaa Mindi daab an laheyn Madax dooro ma gooyso Xataa malaay sarsaroow ma awoodi kareyso Midigta & bidixdeeda ismagan sashadooda waa muhiimadda guusha Mowqifkeena israaca Midnimo & xasilooni Maslaxo & nabad waarta Wax kaloo na maraaya Ineey meesha oolin Wa iska muuqan kartaa... }

Salaan... Taariikh fac weyn inay Soomaalida leedahay adduun weynaha dhan ayaa la socdo, ayaandaro anagaa isku dheelnay, oo hoos, hoos, hoos is dhignay. Labadan erey ayaan waxaan aaminsanahay inay isla xiriiraan: Waaq iyo tuko. Ereyga waaq wuxuu kasoo jeedaa dhawaaq ee sameeyaan shimbiraha ugu caqli badan, tuke. Waa sidee Soomaaliya kuwa kunool ku dhawaaqaan, oo aan u naqaanay dhawaaqooda. [Xataa ereyga dhawaaq hadaa fiirisid waa u jeedaa, oo wuxuu ka kooban yahay dha iyo waaq, yacni lamid ah wax la qeyliyo sidee kuu maqlaan dadka. Ereyo badan ereygaan "waaq" ku jiro, oo faraciis aan iska iloownay ayaa jiro, kamid ah sida barwaaqo.] Ma Soomaalidii hore "tuke" ayee caabudi jireen, uguna magac dareen "Waaq"? Koleey wax isku xiraa jiro. Tuke shimbir sahlan ma'aha, oo waa xirfad miiran, waana shimbirta bini aadenka baray sida loo xabaalo meydkooda, u asturtaan, oo Quraankana lagu xusay, inkastoo Quraanka magac ahaan u sheegin. Waxase iyana aad la yaab u leh, in tafsiirka Quraanka ee Ibn Cabbaas sheegayo in meeshii Qaabiil ku dilay walaalkii Haabiil la oran jiray "GEERIYAAD", taasoo kitaabku sheegay inay afka cajamiga tahay macnaheeduna yahay meeshii geerida. Dalka Soomaalida, banka Geeriyaad waa lama degaanka ugu kulul ee uuna badan yahay dibqalloocu wuxuuna koofur kazoo xigaa magaalada Seylac (Zeila). Sida baybalku sheegayo, Zeila (Zilla) waxay ahayd Tubal (Tumaal) hooyadii. Marka hadii la dhaho dhulkii ee daganaan jireen Haabiil iyo Qaabiil ee tahay dhulka maanta Soomaalida degan tahay, ee labadaas midkoodna ahaa qofkii arkay sida tukaha meydkooda u duugaan, ma laga yaabaa markaas inay "connection" la sharfo tukaha bilowdeen, markii dambena in la caabudo loo badalo asaga naftirkiis, loogu magac daray dhawaaqiis, Waaq? Mida labaad, xiriir kalaa jiro. Ereyga "tuko" Soomaalida kasoow shimbir magaceeda waxee u adeegsadaan qofkii "pray" gareynaayo. Yacni, "hebel waa tukanayaa." Tuko erey Carabi ma'aha, oo waa erey asali ku ah afkeena hodanka ah ee hooyo. Marka awal ma "waaq" baa u "tukan" jirnay? Maadaama waaq tahay dhawaaq uu tuko sameeyo. Waxaan aan ka hadlaayo hadaa isku barbardhigtid, waa arki kartaa inay "connection" waayadii hore jirtay.

Salaan... For a self-proclaimed Eritrean, ilaa hada ma fahmin wuxuu afaaraha Soomaalida ka dheefo.

Duqa, ciyaal baa iska ahayn. Not that I believed anything. But the fact is, the body, when a ritual like this was performed, DID move up. As Nuune wrote, not many people would believe unless seeing to attest it. As I wrote above, it was weird experience, oo waaba acuudi bileysan jirnay. Ducaqabe, what are you saying? That we were reer Baxaar? Adigaaba reer Kismaayo ah noo sheeg, meeshaas ayee dhoobanayeen.

Ciid wanaagsan, widaaygiis. Ar maanta camal laba gaal aa guriga Xamar lagu qali jiray. Ar maxaa u xiisay. Hilib gaal macaanaa. XaaX. Maata, maata, taloow adigana ma taqaanaa? Waan ogaa inay dad dhif ah inta ku jiro ila kasi karaan, oo dadka badankiisaba aanan maqlin ciyaartaas. Markaas aan qoraaye aan iska soo xasuutay. Ciyaar ciyaalnimo waa wax aadan ka weynaneynin runtii. Mar mar kaligaa oo iska qosleysid ayaa is arkee, oo wax waayo waayo iska soo xasuusanee.

Ciiddaan ciiddeeda, odeyga waa taagnaa waa u jeediin, ee dambiga iska aayara, maryooleey. Nafsadiina ka adkaada. Ninba naftiis, nabiyoow ummadaa bilaash maloo dhihin.

Albeit my sanboor's intolerance of it, the caraf is irresistible.

Salaan... I just remembered one of the coolest childhood games. Childhood memories wax la iloowi karo ma'aha. Qof nasiib u helay ayaa yaqaano, siiba qof dadkiisa lasoo koray. Ka soco. Ciyaalkeena Soomaalida, siiba kuwa magaalooyinka daganaa, had something resembling seasonal games. A game is so popular in few weeks or months, and then it declines. Another becomes the hottest. That was the trend, the recycle. In late '80s, one of the weirdest games was invented by some ciyaal. (It was perhaps borrowed from other cultures. I still don't know.) It was a serious, freakish, yet amazing simple game. Here's how it went. The participators were eight people. One body likes on the ground, acting as a straightened corpse, the face facing up. The remaining seven encircle the lying body. Three would stay on the left side of the body, the other three on the right. The lone remaining person would stand at the body's head position. Then each person lets out his index finger, and it alone. Each would then put the index finger under the body and exactly meeshee wada jilba jabsan yihiin, including the lone one who sits at the head's position. Then they will recite those following seven lines [i forgot some lines in the middle]: Maata maata Maata diyuuc Ishtal taadil [?] ...... ...... ...... Kuliyaa Sabcaa Obviously the words were Carabi. After the last words, "kuliyaa sabcaa," which was particularly shouted, each will rise while still the index fingers are under the body. The magic moment then happened: The body will move up. Yes, a body lifted by a mere seven index fingers and nothing else. If you think I am on something, walaahi it used to happen. We used to say it was jini that used to help us lift the body because all while doing this, we all must be in serious behaviours. Otherwise a little qosol or cracking will suddenly stop it, even if the body is in the middle of the air, dropping. What a ritual it was. What a bunch of crazy ciyaal we were.

Originally posted by nuune: yeah good stuff that Somaliland is included in da list, they should ask the FIFA to be included in the FIFA memebership, now they are not which is a bit sad!! Nuune, if you actually look at the site, you will realize it being not the official website of CAF. That "About Me" ayaaba ka arkeysaa that it is a personal webpage. Here's CAF's official site. Its official mentioned national members can be found here.

Duufaan, afxumeynta jooji.

Salaan... Well, let mee see. You said before the civil war, in that case, most famous hotels were concentrated in Xamar. Most carried local names, especially named after the owners. Hotels such: Hoteel Guuleed Hoteel Wehliye Hoteel Maka al Makurama Hoteel Shaamoow Hoteel Naasohablood Hoteel Jubba Hoteel Curaba [Our four-star rated hotel] Hoteel Towfiiq Hoteel Shabeelle That is all I can remember for now. Hoteel Curaba.

And if you accumulate too much debt and that list didn't work for you: Buy one way ticket to Soomaaliya, preferably to a tuulo. A lot of people did, while Visa and Mastercard are still looking every Cabdi Faarax's social insurance background check, most of them are chilling in Buulo Dhuumasho.

Salaan... Maxaa lagu heshiiye? Awalba qilaaf la arkaayo ma jirin, laakiin the two main obstacle points were: Bringing ciidamo shisheeye from Itoobiya [Yes? No. No? Yes.] Where the temporary the government's seat would be based. [Xamar? No. Jowhar? No.] Are these two hindrance issues resolved? I don't see. It seems C/llaahi Yuusuf is slowly forgetting his request of 20,000 African [itoobiyan] troops. Same with Shariifka. He seems he can finally think to work the parliament from outside Xamar. I think they will agree to Baydhabo. Awalba muxuu u diiday meeshaas, Shariifka? Jug jug meeshaada lee joog. International donors aa ruwaayad loo dhigoyaa. Both tuugsigooyaa waxaa loogu jawaabi jiray "heshiiya." Anybody who reads the "official agreement" can easily detect the fine little print of it addressing to international bodies. I pray inay dowladaan wax isku raacdo kasoo baxaan. Dowlad la'aan abaar waaye. And every time baraf with bone-breaking wind chill socdo ayaan soo xasuustaa dalkeena hooyo. I can't really live here another 15 years.

Originally posted by General Duke: quote: Nuune, u sheeg. Laakiin dadka qaarkiis ma jeclo inay arkaan oona iska indha tiro, xataa the father of stoogenimo oo Sanaawi u shaqeeyo waala iska indha tiraa. Kan kale Kismaayo lagu haayo oo curyaan ku ah, waala og yahay dadka qaarkood meeshaan iska indha tiraayo. Kuwaas daneysto ma'aha? Their supporters waxee u yihiin "shrew politicians." Hogaamiye kooxeed aan daneysto ahayn maba jiro. To be honest you are right howevr one must never presume to always occupying the moral highround. For we have in this forum cheerleaders for ina Salad boy the man who as president only strengthened the illegal occupation of his clan.Now we learn the activities of which includes drug smuggling.. A man who as we know served the brutal regime of Siyad with undying love even when, Hargaysa was bombed and then as President took shelter with his sub-clan while the Somali people suffered. Those who cheered for this man have no moral right to point fingers at others, for he is worse than any.. Widaaygiis, I agree. But I would like you to bring forward the "cheerleaders for ina Salad boy." I honestly didn't see my four years spent in this discussion board any obsessed "cheerleader" of C/qaasin, safe the odd qabiil-obsessed one here and there.

Horta daneysi haddey noqoto xaaladu, waxaa la oran karaa qabqable kasta dad u khaasa ayuu leeyahay oo isku daneesato ah... Nuune, u sheeg. Laakiin dadka qaarkiis ma jeclo inay arkaan oona iska indha tiro, xataa the father of stoogenimo oo Sanaawi u shaqeeyo waala iska indha tiraa. Kan kale Kismaayo lagu haayo oo curyaan ku ah, waala og yahay dadka qaarkood meeshaan iska indha tiraayo. Kuwaas daneysto ma'aha? Their supporters waxee u yihiin "shrew politicians." Hogaamiye kooxeed aan daneysto ahayn maba jiro. Imagine if Shariifka conceded and agreed to move to Jowhar, I am sure in this board waxaa lala alalaasi lahaa, "Oo Qanyare oo Xamar ku xanaaqsan ayaa dirsaday and that is why he conceded finally..." I, however, wouldn't call him the man of the year, though. The guy is really confused. Kuwa Xamar ku wareeriye; globetrotting ayuu ka bixi waaye, oo marba diyaarad meel u saaran, meel hawshiisa ahayna u socdo. Maba oga shaqadiis inay baarlamaan ku eg tahay. Laakiin the guy sida ee rabeen certain people ma noqon. Dhuunta uu u galay, thinking his position is nothing but the useless title in name of "guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka."

Salaan... Barwaaqo/Aerowen/Ahura, can you baliis tell these ladies that the boy isn't really me. Nothing with him; he is an older brother. The fact is, he isn't me. Kuli fidna Adena ayaa keentay. The only person that is right is Bishaaro, though where we've met wasn't at Eaton. I am the grinning gentleman standing at the back with the black shirt. Stoic, haa brother. It is a simplistic dress that doesn't cost much, and on the top of that has a relevant cultural history to us. I don't understand why maryooleey spend too much on a one-time-use "taash" and suits. It just doesn't add up. I always admired this aroos, but sad thing was that night I and other kids weren't allowed to attend it. I was so maaaaaaaaaaaaad, wailing and shrieking the whole night, finally when my mother gave me a hundred shilin. I was still crying when I slept and woke up finding myself sleeping at outside. Quruxleey, I hope your aroos will be like that.

Salaan... Xoogsade, this so-called Banaadir council ineen shaqeynin awalba waala ogaa. However, it was a first anything the majority of warlords agreed to form. It failed before it began because Max'ed Qanyare, and Muuse Suudi too, was tricked. In the warlordom of the backroom qabyaalad politics, it was agreed there should be no legitimate election, that waxaa sheekada lagu qeybsanaa a la 4.5 qabyaalad ratio. The election would only be a window-dressing. Waxa qeybsanaayo waxee ahayeen "1" full clan; this clan's sub-clans agreed which each gets. It was agreed Muuse Yalaxoow's clan would both get the guddoomiyaha and duqa magaalada titles. Other clans will get sub-titles. If this didn't work, Qanyare agreed to plan B: His sub-clan was allowed to get the guddoomiyaha degmada portfolio, regardless of anything. Well, a certain sub-clan switched the light and tried to overthrow the agreed backroom politics. In the world of warlord's domain, Qanyare was cheated squarely and has every reason to be mad. There was no fair election either, because the guy who was supposed to challenge didn't participate and boycotted it. Those who voted are powerless in Xamar. On the top of that was bribed. Have you noticed why there was no candidate from Muuse Suudi's clan? Waxii la isku raacay baa meesha laga saaray. Another thing, historically speaking, with exception of few instances, the mayor of Muqdisho always belonged to two clans who founded and lived the town and nawaaxigeeda: Reer Xamar and Yalaxoow's major clan. Hadee dhab ka tahay this council Reer Xamarkii Xamar dhisay, oo found gareeye two seats mala siyeen, kuwii gobolada dhexe ka yimaadeyna triple of that. It just doesn't make sense, though in this twisted Soomaali world of the more gun one owns, the more that clan gets.

Salaan... First time I came across this Ayr Rand person was a couple years ago, on an article about the Wikipedia founder, who obviously in a way worshipped her wishing of minimalist intervention by the authorities about human activies and to which he applied to his Wikipedia site's fundamental philosophy. He insists she and he both aren't anarchist, but her works point she is, in fact, bordering being one. She instead calls her works "objectivism," as opposed to anarchism. An objectivism is a combination of libertarianism and minarchism (both which seem to be same), as she alludes. I think she would've been perfectly happy to live a place like the current situation in Soomaaliya.

Maskiin, you are Maskiin, you know nothing, Thank god My name is not OOW, I wonder what Fowdo and oow share, AHA its the ow they Obviously, your lack of Soomaali language is evident. Let me take an opportunity to educate you about he suffix "oow" and where it derived from. Oow derives from the Soomaali word of 'aw,' which in turn means something or someone old; sometimes it refers to lineage, especially when it is used in the context of "awoowe" and "abtirsi" (ab is the same as aw, Soomaalis sometimes pronounce differently, though same meaning). It also sometimes means "the father of..." Awdal [aw dal], for example, means the "father of nation." It was aptly named that because that region has a deep history. If it is suffix, aw mostly becomes oow. It mostly follows Soomaali nicknames, sometimes too to real names. So when you hear "gaaboow," know it means "the father of shortness." [it is not literal, but the guy is obviously too short.] Same with Yalaxoow, meaning the "father of timo jileec." Not literal meaning, again. Anyway, before you despise your own Soomaali words, learn them beforehand, Mr. "Scientist".

Salaan... Koleey meeshaan quuqdeeda waa badatay. I thought it would thaw down, kadareey ee noqotay. Laakiin waxa la isku heysto ilaa hada ma kasin. Dadka qaarkood ayaaba ku wareeray jilbaab iyo xijaab. Jilbaab iyo xijaab laba sheey ayee kala yihiih, at least from Soomaali perspective. Culimo adduunka dhamaantood waxa waajib ah la isku raacay waa xijaab, not jilbaab. Yaala wareerin. Jilbaab wadaado isku raacday sida uu u eg yahay lama haayo ilaa maanta. Waa taas reer Afganistaan "burqa" ugu waco oo different design; waa taas reer Khaliijka "abbaayo" ugu waco oo sidoo kale ka gadisan; waa taas reer Iiraan "jadoor" ee dhahaan. All these jilbaabo ma isku si baa loo design gareeye? Waa maya. Teeda kalena jilbaab hadaa qaadaneysid, it should have been colourless, mostly black. Kee Soomaalida gishtaana kalarkiis ayaa indhaha kaa qabanaayo. Taloow ma oga since most of our people, indeed our sisters, aren't dadka wax aqriyo, but ku xiran "hebel baa yiri." If only a small percentage had had read what Sacuudi-trained Sheekhyada ee ka dhageystaan, wee ogaan lahayeen that some of their qudbooyin are narrowly interpreted to suit their agenda. Alas, they took advantage our people's traditonal "i maqalsii" culture. Soomaalida had their own "version" before the war. That version was garbasaar. It fullfilled what was needed from xijaab. Wadaadii waagaas jirayna ku raacay, not the later-day, seefta banaanka, Sacuudi-trained ones. Is garbasaar not xijaab? Does it not fullfill xijaab's requirement? Seef laboodnimada iyo seefta banaanka ma fiicno. Hala iska ilaaliyo. Wixii fundamentalka Diinta ka baxsan, mabda' ayaa jiro, oo waala is qilaafi karaa micno kuma fadhiso. Dhiibo mabda'aa, ka soco. I had this friend who used to think South Asian women's prayers aren't acceptable. Why? Because he saw them leave their toes and ankles open when they pray. The guy obviously didn't know mabda' in uu jiro, that we follow Shaafici and they follow Xanafi. Dad baa leh the old regime didn't allow iskoolada iyo kuliyada kale in xijaab lagu tago. That is ridiculous. My sister used to wear "xijaab"--sifaleeti with garbasaar and no body bothered while attending Kuliyada Lafoole. Now, since we are into this enforcement, let's see why a six or five year-olds are forced to wear this jilbaabs at school? Why? Do they have a choice? No. I was in Xamar, and I had seen my nieces wearing it. I inquired why ee u qabaan. They said it is school uniform policy, and they have no choice. Dhididka ka socday Eebbe baa og, and wouldn't wanted to wear had they had a chose. Yes, talk about choosing, as some here are saying those who wear it by choice. Yeah. Talk about compulsion and enforcement. Officials at some schools cannot even tolerate a certain hair-cut styles, expelling those who cut their hair like "Westerners." Al Itixaad didn't work in Soomaaliya. We all know why. Their intolerance was intolerable. In early to mid '90s, they controlled the small town of Luuq. Initially they were welcomed, but their continued rigidity was the last nerve that got on Soomaalis, who are inherently anarchist republic, that lived in that small town. They even welcomed the Itoobiyans who kicked the Al Itixaads. It didn't either work in Bari. Maanta ayeeyooyinkeena ayaa loo giliye, oo loogu sheekeye "xijaabka kaliya la aqbalaayo inuu yahay jilbaab." Ayeeyooyinkeena baariga iska eh iska qaatay. Jilbaab is just one version of xijaab, not synonymous with xijaab. Garbasaar, as it covers what is required, is one version of xijaab. Dadka qaarkood waxaaba u maleysaa hadalkooda siduu u eg yahay in xataa diinteena suuban soo baxday wixii ka dambeeye 1991. Eebboow na cafi. Waaka baxay.

I knew Aamiin Caamir since 1991 when his political cartoons were printed by Shabeelle Press. I remember purely buying that particular paper for his cartoons. Anyway, I never thought he was painting in '70s.

Gaabow, Yaloxow, Tootow, and now Roobow Gaaboow, Yalaxoow, Tootoow, Rooboow and other "oow" are authentic Soomaali names. "Scientist" isn't.

Quruxsanaa! Waayo waayo iga dheh. Xataa xasuustii iskoolada see u dhisnaayeen, darbiga wareegsanaa, ganjeelka weynaa, ar maxaa ganjeel xiran dhexdiis isku cariirinay inaan iskoolka u gambino. Socodka aaba i dilay, xataa. Lugta sida loo qaadaayo fiiri? Shaati jaalo iyo surwaal kaaki maxaa loo xiisay. Jaceylnimada ka dhaxeyso. Igaartaan taloow manooshahay? Hadee nooshahayna saan ma u egtahay wali?