So you are mocking dhiig aan waxba galabsan daadan lahaa because of this evasion? Ma saasaa dagaal iyo dhiig ugu oomantihiin? If so, maxaa idin dajiye Yurub? One way tikid iyo couple hours flight ayaa idinka xigo safkaas horeeye aad dagaal ula rabtiin. Awalba geeljire mentality waxaan camal ayaa laga sugaaye, dhiig daado ma'ahee wax kale inay meesha keenin.

This is the old Xamarweyne, if I am not mistaken. Unbelievable. Tuulo ayee u ekaatay. Compare it the picture taken in '80s in the same area below. Markaan camal ayaan murugoodaa. Xamareey, indeed, waa ku xumeynay. Oh, Xamar Cadeey, baliis forgive your ignorant dwellers that you nourished saas kuu galay.

Awright. Fair enough. Wonderful lists, supported by ideal wishes. I hope my reasonable objections against wadaada ku sheega's won't be a disappointment and chorus party killer. Here we go. They are an intolerant bunch of group, unfit to govern in a modern society. Theirs is only "ama isoo raac ama seefta raac," nothing in between. No dulqaad, no tanaasul, no nothing but "my true belief" they think is the correct one They believe women have no leadership quality, their sole earthly existence to be at home [an alien concept to Soomaalis, whose other half gender was and is historically known to be independents, from Caraweelo to Xaawo Taako. There wouldn't have been a Xaawo Taako had they been in power in 1950s]. Case in point, the top leadership has no single women. No problem, that shared with other institutions we had seen. But its so-called government -- Golaha Shuurada -- has no single woman of all 93 and growing list, all men. No basic liberty. Harassing daily ciyaalka u jarto timaha see ayna jecleen or u labisto sida ay ka helin; closing shaneemooyinka; karbaashing anyone they see not doing what they "wish" they should do or is "vice" against their preset morals Banning heesaha and other cultural intertaintment Banning public mixing Banning booramaha la iska tumo, banning saarka Banning xuska [honouring deceased family members] Banning mowliidka Banning mixed aroosyada xafladaha lagu dhigo No occasional public celebration, be it graduation ceremony Banning women from the beach Desecrating xabaalaha, including those of cullumada Forcibly taking over women's hospital [isbitaal Banaadir] to rehabilitate their injured fighters at the isbitaalka Forcibly shutting down masaajidada they consider that don't follow their mabda' Forcibly enforcing salaadda Bringing what Soomaalis had never knew -- isbiimeys [suicide bombing] and other public explosions that happened in Xamar, two against Geedi and one against UN team Brazen contract killings, including the murder of Cabdiqaadir Yaxye [before they became midowga maxkamadaha] Fake cimaamad wearing qabqable iyo dagaalooge: Indhamadoowe Occupation of Shabeelladahoose [why Balcad or Dayniile loogu dhiibay dadka deeggaanka u dhashay, but not Baraawe, Afgooye, Marka, Daafeed...hmmm] Lies and the lying liars in their midst: "We will not attack Jowhar, Balcad, Dayniile, Kismaayo, Buurhakaba..." Warmongering. Well, some of you may suffer from short term memory, not me. They are as warmongering as the warlords they defeated. The list above, which isn't sadly complete, is what they have done already, albeit having a limited power. The list below is what they will do, realistically speaking. Indhashareer will be mandatory Jilbaab a must at school and society-wide Women will be discouraged at attending higher education Won't be no more Biyooleey There won't be TV Those idaacado that won't kowtow to their version of events or those that play music will be banned permanently The promotion of Soomaalinimo will be abandoned, including the language, dhaqan, hidaha, and distinct cultural heritage, instead filled by more Carabnimo and more, more Carabnimo [we already see this] There won't be elections that allow people to elect whoever they wish, including those who wish to elect wadaada ku sheega themselves [dimuqraadiyada diinta kuma jirto, as they try to remind us, whereas Iiraan, Xammaas, Islamic parties in Malaysia and other Islamic-learning groups practice] ----------------- What most of you listed, especially "bringing back security, booming business" etc, any group can do that if they had a chance. Not to mention the old regime had an absolute security in the country and yet people revolted. Why? Because if there is no basic liberty and accountability, no employment opportunities and stiffing nepotism [read: whoever maamulo dekedda and garoonka diyaaradaha has no auditor and accountibility] and exploitation, there won't be any freedom, regardless how the security improves or not. If the sole responsiblity is security and a little booming business, some even questionable because where they acquired their wealth during the long civil war, then bring back the old regime, at least the old regime stood strongly for Soomaalinimo.

The reason aan inta u keenay Berbera? Adiga ayaa leh "jihaad" ha lagu qaado Baydhabo because ciidamo Amxaar/Tigreey ayaa ku sugan. Berbera xafiisyo ayaa ugu furan Amxaarada/Tigreeyga oo hubkooda kan Soomaalida lagu leeynaayo kasoo dego. Shouldn't "jihaad" lagu qaado meeshaas marka? And shouldn't you have supported it, no? Waligaa Soomaali dhexdeeda dagaal ha iskugu wicin, walaaltinimo ee iga tahay. [Especially since anaga nahnay dibadjoog, we would be the last advocates that call another senseless dagaal sokeeye.] Waxa daadandoono dhiig Soomaaliyeed waaye, si walba hala isku qilaafo, dagaal should never be the option, we've had enough of it for almost a generation.

Ee ani qabiilkeey gaandhari baroon saaran ma u noqon nooh. Yaala is caarifin yaah.

Adiga, it seems, waxba ma dhaantid kii shaleey ama maanta with all eagerness enthusiasm combined with fanatism that used to follow his tol iyo jufadiisa hoose hoggaamiyo by qabqablaha kasoo jeedo laftaas. There's nothing difference, ogoow, that aforementioned group and the blind loyalty aad u heysid reer surwaalgaab iyo gardheere because you share with them same radical ideology. I will give you a little advice: Never, never ever follow something/someone blindly, lest they disappoint you. Only Eebbe alone should have that distinction of faithfulness.

Salaan... Few aspects in life I've realized since I arrived Galbeedka: Increasingly likelihood of depression [walbahaar iyo walwal] in our community and the ever shrinking of young Soomaali men without bidaar, salaxyo and others. Perhaps the two are related. Back home waxaan xasuustaa xataa haddii dhiibatada weyntahay xataa saan desperate depresson uma jirin, however now we have unwittingly acquired West's jirooyinkooda baas. And about bidaarta. If you ever looked old pictures from home, most young men spotted afros, even those in colonial pictures. Compare that kuwa qurbaha ku koray. Very few ayaa afro-like timo qabo, even haddee deystaan timahooda. I'm personally coming across a lot of young men, some just barely coming out of their teens, with salaxyo [the first sign of bidaar] and some already with bidaar. Is it biyaha? Environment? Weather? Laqabsasho la'aanta dhaqanka cusub, thus jahwareerka which results depression, the old belief bidaarta keento? Hadda usoo noqdo mawduucaan, nothing wrong having time with yourself. It is something new to all-the-time socially-prone Soomaalis, but nothing wrong, as far as I am concerned. I do have my quite moments to read the papers with koob shaah. In fact, it is one of my best moments. I also like when Soomaalis gather, be it martiqaad consisting a small group or a large social gathering -- they never get tired of talking and storytelling. I sometimes do not even listen the stories per se, but follow the interesting ways of how stories flow and change. Try doing that, you'll see yourself how quite interesting it is when a story starts with reer miyi and ends in Bush's Aqalkacas' last issued public policy and back to why Islii, the xaafad in Neyroobi, is unworthy of living in just two minutes without no discernible interruption. Very, very interesting, ay tel yuu.

Moorgan shimee uu "sheekh" noqday? Some people completely missed the irony of this thread. Well, I don't blame them since some believe Indhamadoowe can be "sheekh," too. Darn it, dad aaba u duceynooyo. Mise qofkii cimaamad saarto automatically becomes "sheekh?" Iyaah. Illeen Soomaalida gullible ee iska yihiin. Wuxuu galabsaday ama galabsan, asaga iyo Eebbihiis ee jirtaa, just as any other human being. I will, however, applaud and can commend so far being true to his final word to stay away from dagaalooyinka sokeeye ee soo noqnoqdo aan micnaha lahayn, and his final realization and dawning of Amxaar/Tigreey tireless conspiracies against his own people, Soomaali, regardless who they are as long as they kill one another and fratricide to death.

You assert to be Muslim yet want to eradicate Muslims... Kan goormuu Muslim noqday? Dadkiina la doodo aaba la yaabay. Ninkaan ha iska cidlaada quuqdiisa maa iska dhaaftiin, asagaa iska tagi doono markaas. Baddacase, afxumeynta ma fiicno, widaayoow. And odeygaan wareersan dagaal ummada ula rabo, awalba odey wareersan uu iska ahaa. A paranoid "president" that can't leave outside his "presidential" campound, can't trust his neighbours, hadana dadkiisa uu sheegaayo in uu hoggaamiyo aan la tukan karin fear of... NB.: Lixda qof la tukaneyso, afar aan kasay waaba ilmoadeeradiis hoose ee qaraabada yihiin ama wax uu adeer u yahay. Probably the iimaamka too is as well. I don't think odeyga in uu aaminaayo qof aan jufadiis ahayn in uu xataa salaada horseedo.

Jimcaale,I know that very well,but how long will we be under the amounting pressure of Xabashis,we have to fight our way to getting rid of these S.O.B.once and for all and their supporting puppets whoever they are,whether it's Oday or Buubaa. Amxaar/Tigreey controls the Berbera port, where in fact laga soo dajiyo hubka la iskugu dhiibo Soomaalida iyo kan maanta lagu tirtiraayo. Shouldn't then wadaada ku sheega liberate and cleanse that town from Amxaar/Tigreey as well? "Odeyga" kaligiis Baydhabo ma degno. Hundred of thousands aan waxba galabsan ayaa la degan that city and its vicinity and millions more around the region, laakiin waa gartaada, when it is about your own tuulo, it is reconciliation, hadana u gurbaan tun dagaal iyo wax aan loo joogin. Reer Arlaadi had seen dagaal iyo dhibaatadiis, isburbursigii Caydiid iyo Siyaad Barre. They wouldn't tolerate another isburburis in their midst. Iyaga ayaa ku martiqaaday C/llaahi Yuusuf magaaladooda, iyaga alone can kick him out if he overstayed his guestnimo. As worse as one should despise Amxaar/Tigreey, dagaal laguma ordo, especially anaga dibadaha afka kasoo leerineyna. Marka haddee Soomaalinimo dhab kaa tahay, ha u gurbaan tumin dagaal; anybody who can't wait or sugi karina ha aado safka hore ee dagaallada ula rabaan oo yaa kaa haayo. Minankeey oo aan ku nabadqabaa aan fadhinaa, hadana si fiican aan ugu gurbaantumaa dagaal lagu hoobto ma soconeyso igaarkiis. Lix iyo toban sano bilaash dhiig Soomaaliyeed ma u daadan haddaanan ku baran dagaal micnihiis. Maxaa laga dheefay 16 years of dagaallada sokeeye ee isku soo dabanoqnoqaayo ka ahayn qax, qaxar, iskufshasho, dhiig aan waxba galabsan daado iyo maato la laayo.

After almost a year of intuu ka baxay iyo intuu ka dhacay, finally the "sheekha" reappeared today on typical a luncheon hosted by a Muqdisho hotel. Garkii is still untrimmed, though. I thought by now reer surwaalgaab inay shaarbaha waa weynaa manqas qabadsiyeen.

A few days ago we brought to your attention the fact that an American citizen is the Foreign Minister for the Taliban-like Islamic Courts Union of Somalia. We asked readers to find out anything they could about Professo Ibrahim Hassan Addow. We wondered if it could possibly be true that an American would be a high ranking official in a government that has ties to al Qaeda, which is exporting jihad, and which calls for death to America? Thanks to Vonski we've learned some more about the American traitor, Ibrahim Addow. It seems that the problem with finding information was in the spelling of his name. The more common spelling of his name is Ibrahim Hassan Addou. It seems that Professor Addou used to work at The American University in Washington, D.C. Newsvine: Addou...worked as an administrator at American University in Washington, D.C., before returning to Somalia in 1999. Why does it not surprise me one bit that an institution of higher learning in the US would hire someone as an administrator who is an Islamist in the mold of the Taliban? Vonski also digs up this bio page from Benadir University in Mogadishu, where it appears Addou/Addow was named President of the University after returning to Somalia. Funny enough, here is a screenshot of an image from the welcome page at the University, which lists our American traitor as Prof. Ibrahim Hassan Addou, MA, M.Ed., Ph.D. [snip] What is mystifying is that I have seen no major reports about Dr. Addou. Is he not a traitor? Not simply because he is a member of an oppressive government, not simply because that government has declared jihad against Ethiopia, not simply becasue that government is hostile to the West and our values, but because he is a member of a government which receives aid from al Qaeda and which is protecting terrorists involved in bombing the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania! We are at war with al Qaeda. If that isn't the very definition of treason, I don't know what is Sii aqriso ---------------- The redneck reer Mareykan and their ignorance never, ever surprises me. The blogger also intentionally misleads by using this outdated picture above, which wasn't taken recently -- it dates back to 2001. Also others who hold high position within this movement that also have Western baasabooro can be labelled as traitors, I guess. Men such as Aasbaro [Canadian] and Fu'aad [swede]. There are also lower members that have British citizens. What about, though, those in dowlada kumeelgaarka that carry foreign baasabooro. Can they as well be treasonous, using per that blogger's opinion? Men like Cashare, Jangali, Xareed [Canadians], Ibbi [Australian], Aadan Madoowe [Dutch] and a bunch that carries Italian, British and other European passports.

Many of you just discovered Amiin Caamir's visual artist creativity, but as a boy, I used to look forward Amiin Caamir's daily fascinating editorial cartoons in early '90s. It was because of Amiin Caamir that I used to rush each morning or beg whoever was going to Bakaaraha to buy me a Shabeelle Press paper in '91-92. His political cartoons then were as stirring, mocking, caricaturing and rebuking as they are now. Someone scanned some old Shabeelle Press editorial sawirgacmeedyo by Amiin, and memories immediately flooded back. The following three, however, were not as savoury, though. [it reflects the slant Shabeelle Press, Amiin Caamir's then employer, had, which routinely used to call USC fighters and their leaders "mujaahidiin" on their editorial opinions]: The drawing represents a confused "president" Cali Mahdi Max'ed, where the "mujaahidiin" USC members were shouting from one side to get jaggooyin, and the other the regular opportunity-seeking so-called siyaasi men. A propagandic image of Max'ed Faarax Caydiid, newly recrowned as Guddoomiyaha ururka USC [soomaali National Congress]. [Don't miss the name Allah on the flag, above USC letters.] Madaxweyne Cali Mahdi Max'ed oo la dhaarinaayo. -------------- To read other interesting stories and times that happened daily in Xamar in the interesting days and immediate fall the regime in early 1991, riix inta.

Halyeey Xaawo Taako. Since you wanted a bit closer one of her taalo, I finally found a one. The taalo looks nice. Since I don't remember much from seeing taaladeeda, it was thus a vague image I had in mind, but not this. It realy looks good.

I can't believe wali waxaan ayaa laga murmaayaa. SOL is free platform, where each side can bring his or her arguments, without going petulant and other ciyaalgaabnimo. That avatar is insulting, period; if it isn't to you, well be it. It is insulting to common Soomaalinimo, which may not be that much to some of you, but it is SOMETHING to us who value Soomaalinimo. As I explained before, it also degrades the quality of this forum. It is affront, spiteful, derogatory, provocative as well, that someone else will bring in retaliation what you value, be it your flag, or a father or a mother. It also breaks the the rules of the site, Golden Rules: 7 - Flaming: Absolutely no personal attacks (direct or indirect). Criticize ideas, not people. Flaming will not be tolerated in any way. This includes any material which is vulgar, profane, defamatory, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others privacy, sexually oriented, or violates any laws. 5 - Trolling: Don't make posts [images] that are inflammatory just to annoy people. Bring any flag, symbol or anything you value, put on there. No body will or can bother you. The day you start insulting the most symbolic that is common to all Soomaalis, though some may dislike it, nonetheless it is common to Soomaalis and Soomaalis value, one needs to respect that, as one respects his own symbols. "It-is-one-of-my-own-too" exuse doesn't cut. Again, if this flag isn't something to you, it is to us. This character who has brought this repulsive image had been given his chances for plenty of time, still refusing to do. It can, yeah, forcibly removed, but we don't want that for now, however it will soon happen if the rules are being kept broken. Deleting his posts is pressuring, to see that it wouldn't be tolerated. I will, therefore, delete any post of his as long as he is carrying this avatar, if you have a complaint, you can PM to the Admin.

Billow Kerow Waa kasaa, a real Soomaali name. Billoow Keeroow iga dheh. I hope kuwa ku xigo ee sadexaadna iyo afaraad are another true, pure Soomaali ones. Something like Billoow Keeroow Guudoow Baariyoow.

Ma'ogi waxaa ku qoslaayo, whether it is about the first post or the after later responses, who were more funnier.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: before I give my two cents, can someone please tell me what "XAA XAABIYAHEE" means? It means ka xaabxaabi, hakasaarto, macsonkor, got the drift? Regret.

Dadweynoow ila arka meeshaan waxa ka socdo, indha-adeegnimada waligeey tanoo kale maba arkin. At least you could have brought "sari-like" garment of Hindida instead of bringing qamiis [your "kamiz" or as they call it sharwal kameez (surwaal qamiis), itself Carabi words]. Qamiis dhaqankooda xataa ma'aha. They just re-styled the real qamiis that Carabta men wear. That thing never looks dirac, it in fact looks more like a long shaati. Ma diracyadeena oo tan kamid ayaa u eg waxaa meesha keentay? Yaab iyo nuskeeda. And about koofibaraawe, how can it be a thing of reer Cumaan when it isn't even made there in the first place, but Baraawe is. Why it is always the other way around? Reer Baraawe exported, via being a colonial post of reer Cumaan kingdom. It is, in fact, the other way around -- Soomaalis exported it to Cumaan, just like as we exported for thousands of years malmal, xabag and uunsiga [derived from uun, meaning "creation"] which tells you the spiritual connection Soomaalis had with Fircooniinta, another Soomaali words of fir [dynasty] and coon ["old" or ancient]. And about that thing garbasaar being a "similar." I agree. It is nothing but similar. It isn't even closely resemble one another, that should have shut it. Even if it was similar, that doesn't mean we borrowed it from there. I told you to bring a concrete evidence that looks like exactly what you claim to be. You didn't. You in fact failed. "Similar" or "either from Hindiya or Bariga Dhexe" aren't concrete proofs. What else do you have? Anyway, waaka baxay meeshaan, because dad Soomaalida xasdaayo lama doodi karo.

Originally posted by Pooja: ^^ and I thought Indians look more Arabian than us(somalis) :confused: Soomaaliya is in Jaamacadda Carabta. One of its rare privileges is some Carab goverments take serious the "brotherhood" of this League. Ever been to Suuriya, even with an outdated as our current baasaboor. Suudaan and Masar used to be like that, so was Ciraaq. Reer Suuriya, however, to this will let you as a Soomaali in without requiring a visa and you can live there with some basic free healthcare and education. Go there carrying Western baasaboor and see the result. They feel the betrayal of "Carab" cause. Yaa wax u sheego inay Soomaali Carab ismoodin. Iimaaraadka was another Carab nation that give some special treatment to Soomaalida. Reer Iimaaraadka had a huge respect to old Soomaalis that resided there, and still did respect our useless passport when Soomaaliya collapsed, and giving Soomaalida special treatment, however we abused it when some ignorants on the suuqamadoow sold the green baasaboor to foreign prostitutes like Eastern Europeans and reer Filibiin. Waaba markee reer Iimaaraadka ku xanaaqeen Soomaalida and their shameless abuse, instead of mahad, of the special treatment given.

Waala iska hadlaa wax looma qoro. Hadaa wax muhiim heysid soo qor, ee kutirikuteenka naga yareey, baliis. Hadee Xabasho wax kuu galaan aad dhibsaneysid midownimada iyo walaaltinimada Soomaalida, adigee ku jirtaa.

Maadaama meeshaan dadka ku jiro jeclaaday inay taariikhdooda iska indhatiraan, waa in dib loo xasuusiyaa who their real enemy was and is. This will be an occasional series xasuusin u ah walaalaheena jecel inay isiloowsiyaan cadowgooda ugu horeeyo ee adduunweynaha ka jiro -- Amxaaro/Tigreey. __________________ From Time magazine, Isniin, 20 Febraayo, 1978 With a little help from a strange assortment of friends What has suddenly become the world's hottest war is raging in he Horn of Africa between the Ethiopian army and Somali guerrillas who are backed by their ethnic cousins in the Somali Democratic Republic, and the tide of battle changed dramatically last week. Five months ago, the Somali guerrillas had all but driven Addis Ababa's forces out of the [soomaali Galbeed*] desert (see map), an Ethiopian region inhabited largely by Somali nomads. Now Ethiopia has launched a spirited counterattack to regain the [soomaali Galbeed] — and perhaps drastically upset a complex balance of forces throughout the entire region. What has transformed the Ethiopians from losers into almost certain winners has been the arrival since mid-December of the most imposing arsenal of military equipment that the Soviet Union has assembled anywhere outside the Communist world: $900 million worth of tanks, field guns, rockets, radar, artillery, mortars and missiles. To help with the hardware, and otherwise shore up the sagging Marxist military regime of Lieut. Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam, Moscow has also provided Addis Ababa with a polyglot army of soldiers and technicians. According to Western intelligence reports, the roll includes 1,000 Russians, 3,000 Cubans (of whom 2,000 are believed to have been involved in last week's fighting), 1,000 or so troops from the radical Arab state of South Yemen and perhaps 2,000 East Germans, Czechoslovaks, Hungarians, Poles and Bulgarians (see box). In addition, the Ethiopians are still assisted by about 40 Israeli technicians, who help to service military planes and install and operate electronic communication and surveillance equipment. It is the massive Communist aid that has made the difference in the fortunes of war. For weeks, some 25 Soviet naval vessels have been standing by in the Red Sea off Eritrea province, where the Ethiopians are fighting a civil war against three liberation fronts. The Russian flotilla is presumably there to protect a Soviet sea lift to the Ethiopian-held port of Assab. Meanwhile, the Ethiopian air force, probably assisted by Cuban pilots, has been conducting bombing raids on the Somali city of Hargeisa and the port of Berbera, where the Soviets had a missile and naval base until the Somalis ousted them last year. The offensive began last week when Ethiopian armored columns, spearheaded by Soviet T-54 tanks, poured from the strongholds of Harar and Dire Dawa. Air cover was provided by MiG-21s and American-made F-5s left over from the days when the U.S. was Ethiopia's chief arms supplier. By week's end the Ethiopians were reported to have swept 20 miles to Babile and taken positions to the south and east of Jijiga, from which they had been driven last August. The Somalis admitted that their forces in the [soomaali Galbeed] were in a "tactical retreat," and on Thursday the Mogadishu government called for general mobilization "in the face of a threatened Ethiopian invasion." Full article --------------- * Changed to Soomaali Galbeed.

Salaan... That is how SOL ranks on the net statics, only 97,469 sites rank above it. That is admirable, considering the millions sites out there seeking eyeballs. It is the only top Soomaali forum, too. This isn't new to me. Even Somalinet, which is almost a decade old, ranks behind SOL. The top Soomaali sites are, of course, are those news-based ones: Hiiraan.com, Dayniile.com, Shabelle.net, Allpuntland.com, Somaliweyn.com and Hornafrik.com, respectively, are the top sites of all Soomaali sites. Then SOL is the seventh of all. Considering Shabeelle and Hornafrik are corporate-owned with big pockets, we can understand. The top sites and where they stand together in the past week. Somalitalk.com [an ancient Soomaali site on the net, on the relativity of internet age] Banadir.com [old established site] Puntlandpost.com Horseednet.com Baydhabo.com Markacadeey.com Hamarey.com Onkod.net And every other imaginable Soomaali site rates behind SOL. Where SOL stand against its nearest top Soomaali forum-dominated websites the last seven days. SOL is represented by the blue line. Somaliuk.com, Somalillife.com and Somalina.com do not make the cut. Awguuriyo iyo hambalyo to SOL. One day it will knock of Hiiraan from the top.

Macawis (hoosgunti, also known as lungi, longyi, iwm) originated in Southern India. Dirac originated in the Indian subcontinent or the Middle East. Bring the factual infos that supports your allegations. It is either from "Hindiya or Bariga Dhexe" has no basis, no evidence. No actual support in any way. Dirac isn't sari, so bring any visual information if you want to support your unfounded allegations. Dirac is as Soomaali as it has ever been. No other community wears dirac. About hoosgundi, we covered it up. It has a Soomaali name, which is hoos+guntiino. Soomaalis wore hoos guntiino time immemorial, the white garment. It was only later that was standardized into a fully fit hoosgundi by the city people, so its roots go back to guntiga hoose. Of course, like gareys, bulji, baati, shaash, sifaleeti, garbasaar, even dirac, is imported since we aren't that advanced. Koofiyad Baraawe either originated in Zanzibar or the Arabian peninsula. Another hearsay oo waxba wadan. Maxaa cadeys heysaa? "Either this" or "that" cadeys ma'aha. Bring your proof. Horta iskaba dhaaf Carabta, it isn't even in there. Sansibaar, like Baraawe, was an outpost of reer Cumaan. Soomaalis lived in Baraawe the last 300-400 years. Baraawe was one of the exclusive towns that made koofibaraawe. Baraawe now is part of Soomaaliya, lived by Soomaalida. If this doesn't make any Soomaali culture, then wax aad isku kalsoontahay ma jirto. You are downplaying Soomaali culture because they din't blindly follow so-called Carabta, instead retaining their unique attire and other cultures. As I said, true dhaqan can be found in the countryside and other small towns and villages. That is a Soomaali culture in a nutshell. The alindi attire aan ka hadlaaye is there, the red ones. Guntiino is the white, with kuul. Perhaps guntiinada may resemble the ancient clothes wore by Fircooniintii, you may even inclined to say that in order to downplay Soomaali culture again. It won't work. The full, complete Soomaali culture is found the latter picture, except only the fadhicarbeed. Almost everything is there, that some we even forgot their names: Unique gurbaanta, dhiisha, xaaqinka, saliga, uunsishidaha, babiska, and tons I can't shamefully recall at this moment. Another one to illustrate. And since alindi is made in Baraawe, perhaps you are inclined again to believe it is imported from "Bariga Dhexe" or "Sansibaar." Soomaali culture is equally contributed by nomads, pastoralists and agriculturists. Soomaali dhaqankooda, as I noted on the above post, hido iyo dhaqan ayuu u kala baxaa [tradition and culture]. There is more than clothes. There are distinct foods, dances, norms, literature etc. For dances: Saar, Buraanbur, kabeebey, dhaanto, etc. Waxaan cuno kaliya ma'aha bariis, baasto, xalwo iyo wax kale meel kale laga keenay. Soomaalidii hore and kuwa hada waxee cunaan: Soor [yeah, already thinking I see that it was borrowed then since we share some aspect of it with most Afrikaanka], oodkac, kalaankal, canjeero, malawax, muufobaraawe, calooleey, mishaari, salbuko, digir, waambe, canbuulo, malaay, beer, tiribo, moxog, cad, caano [garoor, suusac, caanogeel, caanoari, caanobaraawe], kurus, muufo, suqaar, dheylo, bun and then they are qudaarta: Balbeelmo, cambo, qare, moos, liimodhanaan... We have fanka: Geeraar, heeso, gabey, guuroow, maanso, buraanbur, maahmaah, madadaalo, sheeko, heelo, hadal, murti, maaweel, saar...[And you dare to tell us we don't have a culture. Yac!] This thread is about us and our culture: Do us Soomaalis have culture? Of course we do, only dad aan isku kalsooneen and those who wish us to be more Carab and more Westernized ayaa rabo, otherwise our culture is intact as it ever was, only a bit current threat from Carab wannabes, but Eebbe willing we will overcome their insecurities. Soomaalida dhaqankooda iyo hidahooda is here to stay -- love it or hate it, waligiinba.

dirac, koofiyad... And yaa dirac sameeyo? Of course dirac is imported, as are most, for Soomaalis do not manufacture it. So, what other communities that wear dirac? Yemenis, as some say, well, I had never seen ancient Yemenis wearing it, nor do I see it now. Even macawiis, hoosgundi is the real Soomaali name for it, and as the its authentic Soomaali name indicates, waa guntiino hoos ah. Men wore guntiino hoose, waana go'yadii caddaa, mid shafka la saaran yiray iyo midkii hoose, hence labago'le, or as the Banaadiris called "lamagoodle." Koofibarawaani is as Soomaali as town Baraawe is in today. Koofibarawaani, to this day, carries Baraawe's name, the original place it was made from, which was later exported, by the old rulers of Baraawe, the reer Cumaan, to Sansibaar, another outpost they ruled. From Sansibaar, it spread to Sawaaxili lands reer Cumaan ruled, such as Mombaasa, Malindi and other coastal towns in Keenya and Tansaaniya. However, still, the koofibaraawe those communities wear is starkly different from ours. Baraawe is the only town that singlehandedly contributed to Soomaali culture than any other town, ancient or modern. There is alindi, a rich garment there is caanobaraawe, there is muufobaraawe. And about that picture, yes, it is one of our ancient culture. It is still found in the countryside, used by the nomads, same as ashuun, dhari, kuul. There is a reason why Soomaali culture is called hidaha iyo dhaqanka. It isn't limited to towns and cities, where diracyada and others dominate. To this day, only do you see countryside folks proudly wearing guntiino, an almost exinct rich cultural heritage.