Nuunoow, shucuurta iyo qiirada waa weyntahay. Xaalkana meel sare uu marayaa. Taas oo jirto dalkeena inaa u dhaafno laba iyo afar Xabasho keensaday xaq miyaa, oo dhab miyaa? Dadkaas afka dheer aad ayee u yaryihiin waxaan Xabashada taageersan iyo dowlad ku sheega ay nuujiso qabyaalad ku wada nool, oo midkiiba shan iska dhigaayo, see isku badiyaan ee ma'aha dad badan. Marka afartaas qof in aan dalka ugu samirno xaq miyaa, runtii? Ma'aha. Afartaas daradooda inaan dhahno dalka hala kala gooyo xaq miyaa, dhab ahaan? Maya. Haddaa kala goyno, sidaa horey usoo sheegay waaye, cadowgeyna ugu weyn Xabasha ku faraxsan, oo abeeso noo dheh, shirqoolka ee noo dhigtayna hirgalaayo. Xabashad anagoo kasoo horjeedno, hadana hawsheeda qarsoon inaan u fulino xaq miyaa? Waa maya, duqa. Iska dhaaf kuwaan dowlad ku sheega Xabashada nuujis, koriso iyo maaweeliso iyo wixii yar taageersan. Kuwaas ka samir. Dalka iyo Soomaalinimo haka samrin. Kuwaas Xabashada wato daljecelnimo [wadanimo] haka sugin. Dantooda ayee wataan. Dal la kala goynaayo kasoo horjeedaan dantooda ayee wataan oo qabyaalad ugu soo horjeedaan, ee mabda' iyo Soomaalinimo uguma soo horjeedaan, damiir Soomaaliyeed maalintee Xabasha kaariyaashooda iyo diyaaradahooda miigga ah dalka ku duqeyeen, hadana kuwaas u sacabtumay, maalintaas ayee ka baxeen wax Soomaalinimo la yiraahdo, hadalkoodana ka muhiimsan kan ifka ugu liito. Badankoodana kuwaas Xabashada meeshaan ku taageero Afsoomaaliga xataa ma yaqanaan, oo qoraal iyagoo qoraayo Afsoomaali waligaa ma aragtay? Taas ayaaba igu kaliftay inaan isa su'aalo inay Soomaali dhab yihiin, oo maba hubno inay Soomaali yihiin iyo in kale xitaa. Waxaas oo dhan oo dhacay hadana Soomaaliya kala goyskeeda waligaa niyadda ha gishan, widaayoow. Taas ka ilaali, si walba xaalka ha u murugeysanaadee, Soomaali kala go'eedaa ha gilin maanka, dal iyo dadba. Dhibaatada, qaxarka iyo ibtilada oo ah tijaabadda jirto maanta waa ka bixi doonaa maalin maalintee ahaato, Eebbe hadduu idmo.

The two gentlemen isdaba'ordaayo at almost every thread, heed this: This is a forum, not a chat room. You two almost seem to troll at each given opportunity at any given thread, and deliberately try hijacking those threads, discussing nothing about the said thread's original post. This is not the first, nor the second, nor the third or fourth or fifth. Wixiina waa ka dareey. For your own convenience, trolling is defined talking [writing] for the sake of talking [writing], salted with annoying tones, which clearly is not debating. In a word, you two seem to chat, which always seem has nothing to do with the original topic. We come here to stimulate and participate debates, particularly and more important this political section, not to read two grown men's endless chat logs. At least that was the intention, and it can get ugly sometimes. However, maanta dhan in la isdababursado and discussing a non-topic, a nothing, ma fiicno, only wasting bandwidth. If you two want to chat, the site has a chatroom -- baliis, use it, instead of deliberately hijacking each random thread. Wax halmar iyo laba waala kasay, laakiin mar walba. Waxaas waa ka dareey iyo nus.

Someone does not even know the pictures he is posting. Apparently. This is Sheekh Abbaa. The Malaaq of Malaaqs of Banaadiriga, a very respected man who still lives in Xamarweyne. Since when did he become a 'Sawaaxili?' He is Banaadiri, a Reer Xamar. Far from Sawaaxili, who you allude to mean Bajuunis. Reer Banaadiri and Bajuunis are not and never were the same. Another Banaadiri. This man lives in my own city of Koronto. You can find him every salaadda jimco at Taariiq [Taric] masaajid. Another misleading. This guy is the son of Sheegoow Bishaaro, a well-known man who u halgamay for Soomaaliya's independence in the old days and a member of SYL, the first of nascent guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka in the trusteeship. Yes, the guy Big Brother, the British version, ayuu ku jiray. All those people's pictures you brought are not Bajuunis. They are Banaadiris, which you obviously cannot even distinguish. Bajuunis do indeed live in Southern Soomaaliya, but they were always limited to fringes of coastal areas, from Baraawe to Raaskambooni, and beyond Soomaaliya to Mombaasa to Sansibaar to Musambiik. Who we, however, shared the southern part of the country in the ancient times were Oromos, particularly Booramaha. They lived the interiors of Jubbooyinka and Shabeellaha. It is widely documented the fierce fights between Soomaalida and Oromada in this region -- Soomaalida who always banded together when the fight involved 'shisheeye' and Soomaali. The Oromo later retreated to the present historical boundary, which was when the colonials arrived uninvited. Bajuunis [or as you call them 'Sawaaxili' people] never lived in the interiors. You are badly mistaking them the later arrivals of what foreigners now call 'Bantus,' who were brought from Tansaaniya, Malaawi and Musambiik by Carabs to work their plantation fields in 18th and 19th centuries.

Daa'uud Waraaqle, read this dated thread. It almost answers your questions.

Nuune, widaayoow, ha quursan. It sure is trying times these days, nonetheless ha quursan. Dalkaaga si sahlan laguma samro. Caloolxumada waa badantahay, laakiin waa in la adkeystaa, dal walba ifkaan ka jiro waa soo wada mareen wax tan ka daran waliba. Dadkaan Xabashada keenay waa last to be consulted about our nation's internal affairs. Soomaalinimo waaka baxeen, oo haka sugin wax kalo. I have no problem as long as Soomaalida isqilaafaan, laakiin Xabash dad dalka u wada qabtay, oo maanta Xabashi Xamar ku xaarxaareyso -- dadkaas saas u horseeday aniga maankeyga waaka saaray Soomaalinimo inaa wadaagno, oo waa Soomaali ku sheeg. Do not believe a word they say about our nation or daljecelnimo ka ah. They never were and never are. Only qabyaalad qurunkeeda u geysay, oo ku raagtay. They are not defending dalkeena la kala gooyo because of daljecelnimo, noo. They are defending because of qabyaalad qurunkeeda oo dano kale ayee leeyihiin. Kuwa goosanaayo iyaga Xabashada keenay ayaa ka daran. Waa virus nagu dhexnoolaa, fortunately banaanka isa soo saaray. I am glad to see what they are, oo awal na isku keen qarin jiray. Nonetheless, lama quursado, oo loogama quursado dalkaaga dadkaas yar aan kor kusoo sheegay; dalkaaga qaali weyn waaye, oo heybada aad ku leedahay kaliya ah. Taas marnaba maskaxda ha iloowsiin. Xataa hadaa dhahdid Soomaaliya hala kala gooyo oo maadaama ay hal dal ku heshiin weysay, ma kula tahay in that supposed solution would bring an everlasting, ultimate solution for and all? Methinks not. It will only prolong dhibaatada jirto maanta, xaalkana sii xumaanaayo. Take for example Waqooyi Galbeed. Waqooyi Galbeed ma'aha hal meel la isku wada raacay inay goosato. Gobolla badan ayee ka koobantahay, oo shan ah. Shantoodana dadka degan ma isku raacin. Haddii taas lagu daayo, dadka meeshaas isku qilaafsan makugu tahay inay dhibaatada loogu baxaayo? Ma u maleeyi; dagaalo aan loo baahneen koow ayaa ka bilaabanaayo xaggaas. Hadda oo aqoonsi jirin ayaa la isku horfadhiyaa safka hore, wacdale mar oo aqoonsi dhaco. Jabhad iyo isbiirsi ayaa imaaneyso. Xaalkana sii xumaanaayo. Xataa haddee Waqooyi Galbeed baxdo, which damiirkeena siin karin, yaa ka reebaayo gobolladda kale kale haddee dhahaan anaga waa goosaneynaa? Gobol, degmo, tuulo iyo buulo walba dhaho waa goosaneynaa yaaka reebi karo? Ma xal ayaa ku jiro taas? This is only one reason of many against kala go'a dalka. Other reasons are sharci ama xeer ayaa dalka lagu dhisay, oo axdi ayaa jiray, axdigaasna leh waligiis dalkaan ma kala go'i karo; axdigaas oo codkooda ka wada dhiibteen dhamaan Soomaalida oo dhan badankooda meel walba ee ka joogeen dalka waagaas. Meesha ma'aha guri banaan ku yaalo qof iska baxaayo, hadana soo galaayo. Xeer ayaa degan oo la isku wada raacay. Teeda kalena mid sadexaad ayaa jirto. Soomaalida gumeysiga ka hor waa isku wada duubnayeen, inkastoo axdi u deganayn, laakiin in a sense, 'nation' ayee ahayeen, oo xuduud kama dhaxeen, xuduudkoodana wuxuu ku ekaa meelaha shisheeyaha deganaa, sida webiga Gaarisa waqooyiga ka maro iyo magaaladda Jabuuti agagaarkeeda ee Canfarta ku kala goyso iyo Xarar banaankeeda dhanka Adisababa markii la aado uu ku taalo Soomaali Galbeed. Intaas xuduudka Soomaalida u dhaxeeyo ayee ahayeen, oo iswada ogaa. Reasonka kale waa Xabashada. Xabashada waa sida ay rabto inay Soomaali kala go'aan, midba meel yar ku shooriso, oo isku dirto. Filinka socdo maanta waa saas. Aad ayaa la isku naceybsiiyey Soomaalida. Intee isbaheysi, iskaashi iyo isbiirsi sameyn lahayeen, iyagii ayaa ishorfadhiyo, oo isnaceb. Godkee noogu tala galeen ayaa ku dhacnay -- almost. Awood ay iska celiyaan ma jiri doonto markaas. Mid walba sidee rabto ayee ka yeeli doontaa. Haddaa taas rabtid waxa hadda socdo ku amarqaado. Waa ogeyd Soomaali markee isla jireen, oo isgarabtaagnayeen inay Xabashi juuq iyo jaaq dhihi jirin. Maanta Xamar ayee ku xaaroyaan. Marka maadaama anagoo Xabashi diidaneen, siday rabeen maa u sameyneynaa. Sheekada waxee noqoneysaa cadowgaaga kasoo horjeed, wuxuu rabana u sameey, maxaa yeelay siriqdee dhigeen ayaan ku dhaceynaa oo ah kala go'a dalka. Yar aan isnaqaano oo ka yimid Xamar bishaan ayaa isaragnay. Wuxuu lasoo sheegeystay nin Reer Waqooyi ah oo Xamar joogay, oo training kusoo qaatay Itoobiya. Wuxuu ninkaas u sheegay saaxiibkeey waa yaabee. Trainingka casharka ugu horeeyaba waa isku dirka Soomaalida, oo laga kala dhigo dad biyo iyo dab isku eh. Walaahi. Marka xal miyaa inaa siriqdaas Xabashada noo dhigtay aan ku dhacno mise aan halgano? Labadaan midood ayaa xaq ah kaliya.

I knew Aforomo was a close cousin of Afsoomaali, particularly closer to Afmaay than Afmaxaatiri. However, I did not knew it was this close. It seems every other word is the same as Afsoomaali, even what the Oromos call their language, 'Afan Oromo,' seemingly they have the same meaning the word af as we do. [Mouth/language.] You will see. [PS, it is heavily edited article for the sake of brevity and some words bolded where illustration and a closer-look demands.] ------------- Consonant and vowel phonemes Oromo has another glottalized phone that is more unusual, an implosive retroflex stop, "dh" [our dha too] in Oromo orthography, a sound that is like an English "d" produced with the tongue curled back slightly and with the air drawn in so that a glottal stop is heard before the following vowel begins. Oromo has the typical Southern Cushitic set of five short and five long vowels, indicated in the orthography by doubling the five vowel letters. The difference in length is contrastive, for example, hara 'lake' [har too in Afsoomaali, same meaning], haaraa 'new'. Gemination is also significant in Oromo. That is, consonant length can distinguish words from one another, for example, badaa 'bad', baddaa 'highland'. Grammar [Gender] Except in some southern dialects, there is nothing in the form of most nouns that indicates their gender. A small number of nouns pairs for people, however, end in -]eessa (m.) and -eettii (f.), as do adjectives when they are used as nouns: obboleessa 'brother' [share same meaning with our aboow, which I already knew], obboleettii 'sister', dureessa 'the rich one (m.)', hiyyeettii 'the poor one (f.)'. Grammatical gender normally agrees with biological gender for people and animals; thus nouns such as abbaa 'father' [our abaa/aabo too], ilma 'son' [in Afsoomaali, ilma means kids, instead of sons only], and sangaa 'ox' are masculine, while nouns such as haadha 'mother' and intala 'girl, daughter' are feminine. However, most names for animals do not specify biological gender. [Number] Oromo has singular and plural number, but nouns that refer to multiple entities are not obligatorily plural. That is, if the context is clear, a formally singular noun may refer to multiple entities: nama 'man' [so is in Soomaali nin (in Soomaali, the letter 'm' changes to 'n' when it is the last letter of a word, so it is 'nim;' for examle niman and nimanka)], nama shan, 'five men' [same in Afsoomaali, shan nin]. Another way of looking at this is to treat the "singular" form as unspecified for number. When it is important to make the plurality of a referent clear, the plural form of a noun is used. Noun plurals are formed through the addition of suffixes. The most common plural suffix is -oota; a final vowel is dropped before the suffix, and in the western dialects, the suffix becomes -ota following a syllable with a long vowel: mana 'house' [so is our minan], manoota 'houses', hiriyaa 'friend', hiriyoota 'friends', barsiisaa 'teacher' [we share the base bar (teach), which Oromo word is based on], barsiiso(o)ta 'teachers'. Among the other common plural suffixes are -(w)wan, -een, and -(a)an; the latter two may cause a preceding consonant to be doubled: waggaa 'year' [yep, corresponds our waaga, which roughly means age], waggaawwan 'years', laga 'river', laggeen 'rivers', ilma 'son' [we have already dealt on this one], ilmaan 'sons'. [Case] An Oromo noun has a citation form or base form that is used when the noun is the object of a verb, the object of a preposition or postposition, or a nominal predicative. mana 'house' [we covered this, same with our minan], mana binne 'we bought a house' hamma 'until', dhuma 'end' [yep, corresponds our dhamaad], hamma dhuma 'until (the) end' The nominative is used for nouns that are the subjects of clauses. Ibsaa, man's name, Ibsaan 'Ibsaa (nom.)', makiinaa, qaba 'he has' [aaheey, same meaning of our qabo. Hebel dhar ayuu qabaa as an example.], Ibsaan makiinaa qaba 'Ibsaa has a car' maqaa 'name' [magac, in Afmaay it is magaa same like Aforomo, which, like Afmaay, do not have the letter 'C' or 'ca'], maqaan 'name' (nom.)' afaan 'mouth, language' [so is our af (mouth/language)] (base form or nom.). Personal pronouns Oromo - English - Soomaali Ana - 'I' ---- ani Ati - 'You' ---- adi [singular of 'you' in Oromo.] Asi - 'He' --- asaga Isii - 'She' --- iyada Isin - 'You' --- idinka, in Afmaay it is more closer, which the plural Maay word of 'you' is isiin. [Plural of 'you' in Oromo.] Verb Conjugation Qabda 'you (sg.) have' [close meaning and spelling to our qabtaa/qabo, 'holding/hold'; e.i, maxaa qabtaa?, 'what are you holding?']. Dhugda 'you (sg.) drink' [in Oromo, 'dhug' means drink, close to our dhuuq, which has a closer meaning, 'slurping']. Barra 'we learn' [bar[/b], 'teach;' baranay, 'we learn' Galla 'we enter' [the base word is 'gal,' same meaning with our gal, 'enter'] Verbs whose stems end in two consonants and whose suffix begins with a consonant must insert a vowel to break up the consonants since the language does not permit sequences of three consonants. There are two ways this can happen: either the vowel i is inserted between the stem and the suffix, or the final stem consonants are switched (an example of metathesis) and the vowel a is inserted between them. For example, arg- 'see' [so is our arag], arga 'he sees' [wuu arkaa], argina or agarna 'we see'[arkeynaa in Soomaali]; kolf- 'laugh' [close to qosol], kolfe 'he laughed', kolfite or kofalte 'you (sg.) laughed'. The third person masculine singular, second person singular, and first person plural present forms are shown for an example verb in each class. Dhaga- 'hear' [close to dhago, 'ears;' however in Afmaay, dheeg means hear, also in Afmaxaa but used less frequently, for example: i dhageyso (hear/listen to me)]: dhaga'a 'he hears', dhageessa 'you (sg.) hear', dhageenya 'we hear' (note that the suffix consonants change) The common verbs fedh- 'want' [in Afmaay, fad means 'want' also] and godh- 'do' deviate from the basic conjugation pattern in that long vowels replace the geminated consonants that would result when suffixes beginning with t or n are added: fedha 'he wants', feeta 'you (sg.) want', feena 'we want', feetu 'you (pl.) want', hin feene 'didn't want', etc. -------------- I see it is still a bit long, wali anigoo soo gaabiye. To read more about Afan Oromo, inta riix.

Horta fanaaniintii Hobaladda Shareero ku jirtay yaa yaqaano? Hal qof kaliya ayaa ka caan ahaa aan xasuusto oo ah Khadiijo Qalanjo iyo heesaheeda heybada lahaa, sida 'diriyam oo hoo diriyam...' Any other singers ku jiray hoboladaas?

Kumi iyo taano.

Awjimcaale, Kacaan diid waaxid. Gurmadka maku jiri jirin i dheh. Meerijaankiina ku dar. Ciyaalkii Ubaxakacaankana ma ahayn i dheh. LoL. Waligaa safka iskoolka hiraabtii ma galin miyaa, oo gacanta intaa saaratid ardeyga kaa horeeyo, calanka la face gareeyo, wixii la qaadi jirayna la qaado. Maxee ahayeen wixii la qaadi jiray? Guulwadoow, Siyaad Aabihii garashada Geygayagoow Hantiwadaaga waa habka Barwaaqo noo horseedaye Bulaanka baxaaya Nuurka biraamaya Dhawaaqa baaqaya Waa barbaartii shaqaalahoow Isbiirsadoow .... Haa, haa, haa ------------- Nooloow, nooloow Siyaad, nooloow Aabihii dalkoow, Siyaad Aabihii ummadoow, Siyaad Wehelkii ummadoow, Siyaad Nabey nooma talin Maskax nooma roon Nacabkaa ha jaboow -------------- Waabaa baryoo Bilicsan Aroorya baxsan Maalin boqran Kuwii ka beyree Balada raacdee Badbaada diidee Waa baaba'ooda Barbaraarnay Gumeysi baaba' Webiyo badanoo Dhulkii ku falanoo Ku baahi beelnay Haay, haay, waligaa haay! Guulwade MMA reporting. Dubad, are you happy now, duqa?

Originally posted by nuune: ^^^ I was astonished to read that during the 1977 war, Israeli pilots were involved, illeen gaaladu wey isku qeylo dhaansadaan, meesha Cuba iyo Sovietkooda leen moodaayeyba. But the Israelis were fighting along side with the Ethiopian before any Soviet joined, thus proved in aan yahuuda ka adkaaney ayagoo la socda Ethiopianka, and many Israelis who were piloting the MIGs were shot down. Of course, Nuune, there were others, proven too. Read this snippet from Time Magazine: "What has transformed the Ethiopians from losers into almost certain winners has been the arrival since mid-December of the most imposing arsenal of military equipment that the Soviet Union has assembled anywhere outside the Communist world: $900 million worth of tanks, field guns, rockets, radar, artillery, mortars and missiles. To help with the hardware, and otherwise shore up the sagging Marxist military regime of Lieut. Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam, Moscow has also provided Addis Ababa with a polyglot army of soldiers and technicians. According to Western intelligence reports, the roll includes 1,000 Russians, 3,000 Cubans (of whom 2,000 are believed to have been involved in last week's fighting), 1,000 or so troops from the radical Arab state of South Yemen and perhaps 2,000 East Germans, Czechoslovaks, Hungarians, Poles and Bulgarians. In addition, the Ethiopians are still assisted by about 40 Israeli technicians, who help to service military planes and install and operate electronic communication and surveillance equipment." Time magazine, circa Febraayo, 1978. Time as a Western magazine will be generous and biased to when it comes to anything about Isra'iil, so you triple double that and make it possibly more than hundreds of Isra'iilis involved and surely more experts than 'technicians.'

The Master will inevitably be busy the next couple days, weeks or perhaps months to save his regime's credibility in the eyes of Galbeedka since Cafars supposedly kidnapped several Westerners in their region now. What will the minions, in the meantime -- including the Father of Stooge -- do the upcoming days? Where will they get the full instructions from? Will fawning dependants be taken care of by Mesfin, the other Tigrey Xabash foreign minister and business as usual? The Master is unavailable, what should be done, what should be please him, what should be stayed away lest he is offended. Questions, questions, questions. Five Britons including diplomats and embassy staff were among 15 Western tourists being held by kidnappers in a remote corner of Ethiopia dubbed the "land of death" because of its extreme climate. The Britons, who have links to the British embassy in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa, were in one of two convoys intercepted on Wednesday in the barren Afar region close to the border with Eritrea, which is roamed by separatist rebels and bandits. Whitehall sources said last night that there was a "national security dimension" to the kidnappings and that the government's emergency committee, Cobra, had met over the incident. The second group, comprising between seven and 12 French citizens, was believed to be being held by the same kidnap gang after both convoys were stopped in the Danakil Depression, a spectacular desert bowl that contains the lowest point in Africa more than 500 metres below sea level. Independent

Another day, another baraf. This time, it not only snowed. First the ground already had too much snow on, then came a real unexpected snow, then came the icy rain, then the heavy snow, then blizard, then mother of all, a winter storm of winds so strong kor ayee kuu qaadayeen. Poor Koronto. This person must be a diehard environmentalist.

Gabdhaha maxee qabaan oo u diiday siyaasadda? Juudaan miyaa? Inkastoo siyaasadeena qalafsantahay, there is nothing wrong walaashiis. I personally don't mind to have a whole Cabinet that consists all-female -- in fact, I welcome, they are what we need now since kuwa na horboodaayo waxba keeni waayeen ka ahayn dal dumis, dad dil iyo maandarooyin jaad ku jiro. Gabdhihiina u istaaga dalkaas, idinka uu idin sugaa, waligiina jaamac haka sugin wax quman uu keeno inyar ka ahayn.

So, it isn't an isolated case yaah. Odeyaasha inay dhexgalaan u tago la kala diro ama la xiro. Aamin la'aan waaye tan. Ii koow. Since 1977, when Ethiopia won a bitter war initiated by Somalia to annex the former's ethnic-Somali ****** region, Addis Ababa has successfully derailed attempts to unify Somalia, and it is doing the same now. Bilaal, brother, I have an utmost object to this foreign assesment I know that you didn't write. Xabashi never won a war against Soomaalida save iyadoo West soo wadan. Dagaalkaas Soofiyeedka and her clients, namely Cuba, ayaa badbaadiye. One-on-one markee ahayd Soomaaliya recaptured its rightful land illaa iyo Xarar gaarnay almost.

It is byproduct of institutionalized and unreformed Soomaali axdi, which we never even gave a second thought to. A lot of problems stems from this, since this model supposedly doesn't work for us anymore. Aabiyaasheena gobanimadoonka opted this model, for they hoped, and had a good reason, to separate each power. The model gives balance and a bit of checks of each branch, supposedly like the Mareykan one. Executive, presidential and judicial. It also gives an outstanding of power to speaker of parliament, unlike other speakers of parliaments around the world. [Remember, the speaker isn't really a 'speaker' but 'guddoomiye' baarlamaan huge difference in Soomaali sense]. However, and sadly, Soomaalida only care about madaxweynimo, who sits the top. It worked during Aaden Cadde and C/rashiid's time, each knew and respected his position by strictly following axdigaas jiray, even qilaaf hadduu soo dhexgalo. The other governments that is closest to our model is Sri Lanka, Aljeeriya, Ruushka, Lubnaan, Bakistaan [pre-Musharaf], Faransiiska iyo Falastiin, who all are semi-presidential.

But Somalia's government spokesman, Hussein Mahmoud Mohammed, has warned that unless AU troops lead the disarmament process the killings will continue. Xuubsireed of idamaale.com now mysteriously is 'government spokesperson,' aha? Already promotion miyaa, I thought he was the mouthpiece of his Stooge uncle, who nominated him, which has nothing to do with dowlad ku sheega dowlad ku magacaaban, iskaba dhaaf dowlad ku sheegaan. Then again they are treacherous dowlad ku sheeg oo Xabash nuujiso, barbaariso, koriso, who don't know meelaha ee u kala qaabilsanyihiin.

Originally posted by Dhubad: Cayrow, is a myth.....is Like Baasabuur (a serial killer who used to hunt down his victims between Baardhere and Baydhabo ). No one has ever saw him, you only hear, he was seen in this village, he killed this person and that... Illeen Baasabuur, aka Kaligiihalgame, waa taqanaa. Dad badan ma maqlin ninkaas kaligii halgame ahaa, a one-man effort against the last regime, though masaakiin ayuu dhibi jiray. Laakiin, yes, wuu jiri jiray Baasabuur; he is a historical fact. And yes, Ceyroow too exists. We may have never seen his picture, nonetheless waa nin jiro. Turkiba sawirkiisa miyaa aragnay? Maya. Labadaas nin ma jeclo sawiradda in laga qaado iyo meeshee ku sugan yihiin la ogaado, waa dad isqariyo.

Dagaallo culus oo mar kale ka dhacay Deegaanka Baarmoog ee [soomaali Galbeed] Arbaco, Febraayo 28, 2007 (HOL): Wararka ka soo baxaya dhulka ismaamulka soomaalida Itoobiya ayaa sheegaya in dagaal culus uu mar kale ka dhax Qarxay dhinacyadii dhawaan ku dagaalamay deegaanka Baar-Magoog, iyadoo dhanica kalana la sii dayay odayaal dhawaan lagu xiray dagmada Feer-feer si ay nabad u dhax dhigaan dhinacyada is haya. Gudoomiyaha Maamulka Gobalka Hiiraan Xuseen Mux'med Maalin oo ay HOL la xirirtay isaga oo ku sii jeeda dhulka colaadu ka taagan tahay ayaa sheegay in dagaalku jiro walow aan si Rasmi ah loo ogeyn qasaaraha uu sababay, waxaana uu intaa ku daray gudoomiyuhu in isaga iyo waliba xubnaha la socda ee halka ku wajahan xooga saari doonaan sidii loo soo afjari lahaa colaada si loogu gudbo wada hadal xal lagu gaaro. Dagaalkan u danbeeyay ee ka dhax qarxay dhinacyadii dhawaantan dagaalamay ayaa marka dhinac laga eego sii kor dhin kara khasaaraha labada garab ka soo gaaray colaada u dhaxeysa iyada oo dagaaladii dhawaantan dhacay ay ku dhinteen in ka badan 30 ruux dhawaacuna intaa ka sii badan yahay. Dhanka kale waxaa lagu guuleystay in la sii daayo 14 Oday dhaqameed oo dhawaantan ay xirtay dowlada Itoobiya iyaga oo ku sii jeeday deegaanada colaadu ka taagan tahay , waxaaa sii deyntoodu ku soo beegan tay wax yar uun ka dib markii ay degmada Feer-feer gaareen Xubno uu hor kacayo Gudoomiyaha maamulka Gobalka Hiiraan. Marka la eego colaada ka taagan dhulka Ismaamulka Soomaalida Itoobiya oo beelaha ku dagalamaya yihiin kuwo wada dega gudaha gobalka Hiiraan, ayaa hada waxaa soo baxaya cabsi weyn oo dadka gobalku ka muujinayaan in dagaalku noqdo mid ku soo fida gudaha gobalka, maadaama aysan jirin cid hada u taagan in arintaasi si foojigan isha ugu heyso, walow dhawaan gudoomiye ku-xegeenka maamulka gobalka Hiiraan Xuseen Cumar Xasan Gacamey uu ka digay in dhinacyada dagalamaya colaadooda ku sii fidiyaan gudaha gobalka. Xigasho Xabash does not care, really, intee Soomaali halhal isku dhameyneyso, inay dhexgisho haka sugin habeenkii xaley tagay. Kuwii kalena dalkooda haku duulaan, kuwii kalena dhulkee xooga ku heysatay ha isku fiirsadaan iyagoo isleeynayaan. Waa kanaa dagaalkii labaad less than in two weeks ka dhaco Soomaali Galbeed, this latter war which started itself two weeks ago.

I don't know and understand why one has constantly to defend Xabashi's cruel actions, even if they don't committ this barbarous murder, they are still Xabashi, an occupier force in Soomaaliya. They are still Xabashi who care less one less Soomaali person dying in torture. The point is not whether they tortured and killed this poor man, the point is they are even more capable something worse than this -- shelling a city of two million in wee hours of salka dhexe. Dad baa Xabasho see u difaacayeen iska noqday Xabash, unknowingly to themselves. Eebbe ha u naxariisto marxuumka.

LooooooooL leersaneysaa. Dhaaf qoftaas maanta ayeeyo afaraad waaye, ha leersatee.

First dhabal post. WiiiW.

Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood: These pics are from Sheeko Magazine, aren't they? Macawistu walle wey ku wacantahay wax dibadda loogu baxo! Saa yaa laydh yaroo macaan xagaageynu aragnay diidi kara? I do. Banooni markaa u socda ayaan ku aadaa hoosgundi. I am not even alone, some others do. I also go out with my proud hoosgundi to grocery stores. I have several of them and I can't imagine going to hurdo without a hoosgundi either. Who cares waxee others think? Certainly not me.

Looming Genocide in Soomaaliya Press Release [war saxaafadeed] February 27, 2007 The prospect of Somalia entering again a cycle of civil war based on clan affiliation is inevitable if the World bodies lets it slide into the current path Somalia is being stirred towards by the TFG and their commanders the Ethiopian occupying forces. Contributing Factors to possible Clan War: The unjustified and illegal occupation of Ethiopian troops in Somalia and in particular their concentrated presence in Mogadishu. The presence of what is termed as National Army but actually is clan militias affiliated with President Yusuf in Mogadishu – hence hindering and completely undermining the reconciliation process and the structuring of a viable and trusted National Army and security forces – additionally their daily hostilities and authoritarian presence in Mogadishu (with the aid and support of thousands of Ethiopian troops) could spark a unprecedented, irrevocable, and long lasting civil strife based on clan war. The unilateral and authoritarian rule and grip on the TFG by President Yusuf (again with the aid of occupying Ethiopian troops) - the TFG formed two and half years ago with Ethiopian influence was aimed to bring aboard all Warlords of Somalia including President Yusuf – now of all a sudden the lot , apart from him, are discarded from the power sharing in the TFG, questioning the reconciliatory factor of the TFG. Fragmentation and diminishing the authority and democratic power of the Legislative Branch by President Yusuf. In order to seriously safe Somalia from unforeseeable future of apathy the above mentioned basic errors should be amended with the immediate effect by the World bodies such as UN, AU, EU, ICO, etc. – they should insist, urge, encourage and most of all make sure that the TFG is rectified: The timely announcement of Ethiopian occupation troops and replacement by either AU or EU peace-keeping troops. The participation of all clans and militias based in Somalia in the structuring and establishing of National army and security forces – plus the fair sharing of its commandment by all clans of Somalia in the same format which was set to share power in the TFG (before it became headed by a warlord Yusuf and his clan Ethiopians). The limitation of the powers of President Yusuf by bringing back power sharing rule among all clans of Somalia. Re-establishing Sharif Hassan as the head of the Legislative Branch of the TFG and moving the seta of the parliament where it is not guarded by the Ethiopians and clan militias loyal to Andullahi Yusuf. Calling for and the immediate convening of a reconciliation process that includes this TFG, the ICU, Civic societies and others who are not included in the TFG. Unless such drastic attempts are made Somalia would reach a point where the World bodies would be hoping they did something when they could have. The international organisation should beware that endorsing or being silent and incapacitated supporter of n authoritarian rule aided by invading forces is not a solution for reconciliation but rather the utter opposite. Mr. Cawaale Kulane Leader of the New SYL Fax: 44-20-8458-3715 Phone: 44-70-9287-7136 ---------------- Our brother Cawaale is dreaming if he thinks this dowlad ku sheeg non-existent, treacherous entity can be redeemed.

Dad baa malag wado. Nin tiisa gishay wax ka celin karo maleh. Ha arkaan waxee ka dheefaan, yee carari hadhoow.

Originally posted by Jimcaale: Che, that thread is dead. I started this page hoping we discuss ideas and the claims this man is making instead of calling names, insults and doubting his deen. Talib, Niqaab was widely adopted right after the fall of Barre regime but does that mean it has not been practiced in some areas of the country. I don't have the history background so where are the SOL historians. Jimcaale, indhashareerka Banaadiri qeyb kamid ah oo aad u yar, oo saas aan u badneen ayaa gisha jiray the pre-civil war. They mostly wore it for the sake of dhaqankooda Carabta ahaa ay aaminsanayeen. Banaadiriga dhan ma ahayn, waxaa u badnaa siiba kuwii deganaa Shibis [bilaajo Carab], oo la baxay Camuudi, kuwaas oo heystay badankooda dhalasho Yemani. Soomaali maryooleey and lamagoodle [marolaaweey and labago'le, respectively, as they Banaadiris call us to this day], indhashareer meel ma isku arkin. The very derogatory word of 'lamagoodle' itself is self-explanatory. Laba go' ayaa gishan jirnay, mid hoose iyo mid kor. Midka hoose hoosgundi nimanka dhihi jireen, kan korna go'. Gabdhaheenana guntiinada isku dabalaabanto. In this sense, Nuurudiin is absolutely correct, waa saxsanyahay, waana ku raacay. Indhashareer dhaqan Soomaali ma'aha. Dad ayaa hadalkiisa badalay oo ka dhigay in uu xijaabka wax ka sheegay. He didn't. He only talked about the alien jilbaab and indhashareer oo Soomaalida ku cusub waana mid taariiq ahaan dhab ah, si walba dadka qaarkood u dhibsadaan. Illaa iyo hadda kama jawaabin to those who deride walaalkeen Nuuridiin why it is different from garbasaar and why don't they consider garbasaar as a genuine xijaab garb. Dadka surwaalka gaaban maanta socda, oo soo baxay, waa wareersanyihiin, iyagaaba isku wareeray oo isaaminsanayn, mar ee isku wacaan 'salafi jadiid' iyo 'salafi takfiir.'