Originally posted by Dhulqarnayn -alSumaale: We would? Somalian armies have been roaming throughout Kenya and Tanzania since the early 17th century case in point the Portuguese defeat by a joint Somalian-Omanese force in 1660 Mombasa, or the Nabahan arab princes of Pate that were threatening the Siu women and children who were rescued by a Katwa Somalian army ... Daa'uud, maxaa waaye waxaan? "Somalian???????" Kamoon nooh. It is annoying seeing this Soomaali noun butchered by non-Soomaali, and it is even more annoying when it is written or said by Soomaalis, and extra more unbelievable coming from you of all people here. Perhaps those foreign forums you visit ayaad lasoo qabsaday.

Masaakiinta Eebba ha u gargaaro asagaa noo maqanee. Intee ka baxaa meel alle aa maqli jiray.

Ar maxaa la maaweelay. Xabashi laga raadsanaayo aqoonsi.

Originally posted by Xalimopatra: Ciyaal is Af Carabi as is suuq. I've been thinking about this SOL bibol,do Soomaalis even have a word for children/offspring in general regardless of gender/age grp..basically plural? Children = awlaad, ilmo. Ilmo, yes, it can have the connotation to mean as an infant, but it fits as a translation for children. There is the rarely used one: awlaad. Awlaad sounds Carabi, though, but I am sure it is native Soomaali word. I've just realized something -- the unnecessary, non-essential Carabi words we use everyday. By non-essential, I mean words that don't have to do with diinta and politics, whose equivalance in Soomaali can be a bit tad finding. Siyaasad and many of its derives is such an instance. The following words are just a few for an illustration. [We have lost many everyday words in process of neglecting our language hodanka ah; words we've now substituted to, such as the Carabi one, xataa (even). Go and try finding a Soomaali equivalent word. I don't think you can find.] Xaq = dhab/run Kursi = fadhi Muhiim = laga maarmaan Kuli = dhamaan Waji = fool Rayi = aragti Kalmad = eray Usbuuc = toddobaad Xukun = maamul Beecmushtar = ganacsade Miis = ? Jawaab = ? Qalin = qore? Qataar = quful Qasnad = keyd Qatar = halis Macalin = waxgarad Sharaf = heybad Xabsi = saldhig Jaraa'id = wargeys Mudaaharaad = banaanbax Warqad = xaanshi Matalan = tusaale Shacab = dadweyne/bulshweynta Qayaano = sir Xisbi = urur Taajir = qani Maal = xoole Cilmi = aqoon Qaraar = go'aan [resolution] Qabiir = xeeldheere Qaas = gaar Waajib = xil Xayawaan = xoole Qadarin = xushmo We are even witnessing how far it went when we recently noticed the rise of this word 'shabaab' used predominantly by certain people. What is wrong with dhalinyaro? ------------- Caanogeel, ma laguu gali karo runtii.

Waa Soomaali dhab daludhalad oo daljecel ah. Maalin maalin ahayn ayaa la xusi doonaa walaalahaan. Soomaali maanta waa kala baxday: Soomaali ku sheeg oo yar qabyaalad caabudo, oo virus ah ku noolaa magac Soomaali iyo Soomaali dhab, asaliga ahaa. Dankis for sharing with us the images, widaayoow.

Ninkaan waa u fiirsaday, oo dhowr safir laga soo qaaday markaan arkay, sida uu u fariisto waxaa moodaa in uu ciyaal 'yo-yo' camal yahay. Muxuu mar walba u kala balaqaa lugihiis, oo sinta dambe ugu fariistaa? Protocolkiis kistoo ka qaldan ee dad advice gareeyo waa in uu hire gareyaa.

Originally posted by Munira002: MMA,Islam is a comprehensive religion that covers all facets of human life, while the West was enveloped in its Dark Ages,Islamic teaching laid the foundation for scientific, thought and paved the way for the scientific developments we see in the world today.Also,the Muslim World was at the height of learning and development. It is a known fact that the Renaissance was due in great part to the advancement and transmission of knowledge from the Muslim Civilization. Waa gartay walaashiis, ee waxaa ula jeeday Muslimiinta iyagoo dhulkaan iyo taariiq soo jireedkaan leh wali kama faa'ideysan. Dhulka ay maanta Muslimiinta degaan waa dhulalkii ilbaxnimada, horumarka iyo soo saarka ugu horeeye oo ka bilowday. Qaarkood oo ahaa Mesopotamia [maanta ah Ciraaq iyo Suuriya], Fircooniintii, Beershiya [Persia], Reer Andalus, Cismaaniyiintii iyo meelaha kale. Muslimiin haddaan nahnay kama faa'ideysan. Midda labaad aan ka faa'ideysan is qeyraadka, sida today's gold, shidaalka [oil]. Jabhad, it is obviously biased, and has a Western tendency, especially if the top is so far led by Acropolis in Greece. As you said the judges are Greek, so what do you expect? I was reading a few months ago about this new project and how furious some Egyptian officials got at by the simple reason of comparing those 'modern wonders' to ancient ones, like Pyramids of Giza. Some Canadians too were infuriated since CN Tower in Koronto was left out, especially since CN Tower was considered a 'modern wonder' by some.

Waxaa si rasmi uga socda Gobolka Hiiraan Socdaalka Nabbada oo ay horkacayaan Duqayda iyo wax garadka golbolka Hiiraan. Socdaalka Nabadda oo ilaa iyo hadda socda mudo asbuuc ah ayaa dadka reer Hiiraan si wanaagsan u soo dhaweeyeen. Socdaalka oo looga gol lahaa siddi loo sii adkeeyn lahaa nabadda ka jirta deegaanka Hiiraan isla markaana loo xalin lahaa qilaafyadda yar yar ee ka dhexjira beelaha degan deeganadaas ayaa waxaa soo qaban qaabiyay Xarunta Cilmibaarista iyo Wadatashiga Soomaaliyeed ee loo yaqaan CRD. Geedi socodkaan soo meel kastaa oo ay tagaan si khiiro leh loogu soo dhaweeynayo, ayaa waxaa ay maalintii shalay ahayd gaareen deegaanka Buqda Caqable. Si aad qiiro leh ayaana loogu soo dhaweeyay, iyadda oo odoyaasha deegnaakuna ay dadku ku guubaabiyeen is walaaleysiga iyo isku soo dhawaanshaha dadka degan degaanka. aa markii ugu horeeysay oo ay socdaal ku maraan odayaalka iyo wagaradka gobolka oo wada socda deeganka gobolka. Socdaalka mar mar waxaa uu isku rogayay mid dabaal-deg ah. Oo dadka dareemayeen in ay yihiin dad isku mid ah oo ayan jirin qabiil-qabiil. Mid ka mid ah odayaasha shirka ka soo qayb-galay ayaa yiri” “Mar hore ayaa iigu danbeeysay dareen Soomaalinimo in aan dareemo, shacaba Soomaaliyeed hadii uu sidaan oo kale isku dhexmaro iyadda oo cod nabadeed lagu hadlayo, dhibka Soomaaliya heyastaa waa uu dhamaan lahaa” Socdaalka Nabadda waxaa uu uu sii gudbi doonaa degaanada ay ka mid Matabaan, Baletweyn iyo Maxaas. Talooyinka ka soo baxyaa socdaalka ayaa waxaa ka mid ah in socdaalka noocaani ah ay Xarunta CRD ku baahiso dalka oo dhan. Deegaan kastaa oo dukhaydu tagtana waxaa lagu magacaabayay gudo nabadeed oo ku biro gudo gobol oo arimaha Nabdda gobolka ka shaqeeya. ' [i don't see any ubiquitous baroon (tikniko) guarding odeyaasha. Waa wax lagu farxo taas.] [Haweenka oo laga maarmaanka ah ayaa ka muuqan laakiin.] Xigasho Waa wax lagu deydo oo mudan. Soomaali Maryooleey should follow this daunting task in every region.

Dhacdadaan haddee runtahay, waaba foolgabax, as the qoraalka says. Actually, it is more than embarrassing. Xabash ha kugu booteyso adigoo dhulkaaga joogo, haddana kii xataa hoggaan iyo jago sheeganaayo. See loo baari karaa qof dhulkiis joogo by a shisheeye, oo amartaagleyn ah maadaama diyaaradda ayba Adisababa joogin, but dhul Soomaaliyeed? Haddana qofka la baaraayo waaba qof hoggaanka ugu sareeysa ee gobolka qof sheeganaayo. Soomaali midnimo, isbiirsi, isbaheysi iyo iskaashi waa diidee, Xabashi minan walba ay deganyihiin ha ugu amartaagleyso. Walaahi halhal ay noo qabteen, intii qabiil this iyo qabiil that lagu haayo, magac Soomaali hoos ka bixi doonaa, markuu ka baxana ogaadda -- I promise you this -- magac qabyaaladeedkaas Soomaalida caabuddaan ka hormari doono oo meesha ka siibmaayo, maadaama magac iyo jiritaanka Soomaali ka baxay meesha isku heyn lahayd. Maalintii taas la gaaro, yaa laga shaleyn.

what about ciyaalsuq Ciyaal suuq is a two-words word, so it cannot be on the list. When it is one word, as a noun, it can be ciyaalsuuq, but that is usually given as a nickname, a place name or a group name, which is not what we have in the list.

Dhabal bost.

Buuxo, dadka iskumid ma noqon ayaandaro. Dad ayaa ismoodo inay Kanadiyaan, Mareykan, Ingiriis, Iswiidish, Dane, Finnish, Oostaraliyaan iyo wixii lamid ah yihiin, xataa iyagoo dalka joogo. Baasaboorkaas been u sheegay, LoL. Sujuugii Nayroobi ku dhashay waayadii hore bilaash ayaa loola yaabi jiray markee Keenyaati iska dhigaan, Afsawaaxili baasna ku hadli jireen markii Afsoomaali loogula hadlo. Here is another mysterious Canadian flag, right behind that junior stooge. The "office" belongs to Soomaali "ambassador" to Kenya, Max'ed Cali Ameerika, who used to live in Kanada.

It seems those so-called major 'wonders' always are located currently in Muslim lands or were built by Muslims. It always seems that. The new list on that site has those: - Taj Mahal - Hagia Sophia - Timbuktu - Pyramids of Giza - Petra

Dowladda Federaalka oo Haween Soomaaliyeed u diiday Shirka ay uga qeybgeli lahaayeen Dalka Talyaaniga Jimco, Juun 01, 2007 - Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa diiday in ay shir u tagaan Dalka Talyaaniga Haween Soomaaliyeed oo martiqaad ka helay Dowladda Talyaaniga. Go’aanka Haweenkan loogu diiday ka qeybgalka shirka ka dhacaya Talyaaniga ayaa waxaa uu ka soo baxay shir ay Muqdisho ku yeesheen Golaha Wasiirrada Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya oo sheegay in aysan jirin wax ogeysiin ah oo ay shirkaas ka heystaan, sidaas darteedna aysan Haweenkaas Talyaaniga u dhoofi doonin. Dowladda Talyaaniga ayaa casuuntay 100 Haween ah, kuwaasi oo loo casuumay in ay ka qeybgalaan shir Talyaaniga ka dhacaya, waxaana casuumaaddaas ku dhawaaqday Wasiir ku xigeenka Arrimaha Dibadda Talyaaniga haweeneyda lagu magacaabo Patrizzia Sentanelli oo dhawaan booqasho ku tagtay Caasimadda Soomaaliya ee Muqdisho. Afhayeenka Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Cabdi Xaaji Goobdoon ayaa sheegay in ay shirkaas u arkeen mid lagu carqaladeynayo shirka dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed ee dhawaan lagu qaban doono Magaalada Muqdisho, bacdamaa sida uu yiri ay isku soo beegmayaan waqtiga la qabanayo labada shir. Cabdi Xaaji Gaabdoon waxaa uu sheegay in haddii arrimaha shirka Haweenka lagu soo wargelin lahaa Dowladda Soomaaliya aysan taasi dhibaato ahaan lahayn balse haatan ay u muuqato in shirkaas lagu carqaladeynayo shirka Dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed, wuxuuna caddeeyay in go’aanka ay qaateen Golaha Wasiirrada Soomaaliya uusan wax u dhimi doonin Xiriirka ka dhaxeeya Dowladaha Soomaaliya iyo Talyaaniga. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Go’aanka ka soo baxay Golaha Wasiirrada ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmay iyadoo Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Soomaaliya Prof. Cali Maxamed Geedi uu dalka Dibadda uga maqan yahay, isla markaana uu shirka go’aankaas lagu gaaray uu shir guddoominayay Ku-simaha Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Xasan Abshir Faarax. Xigasho Stooges as always never surprise you. Yaab ayee leeyihiin, dumarkii ayaaba ka fakan la.' Iyaga maa tikidka ka bixinaayo, oo hoteeladda dajinaayo markee isleeyihiin ka reeba inay tagaan shirkaas. Horta haba u diidaan kuwee awood u leeyihiin maadaama badanaa dibadaha ka tagi doono.

Guriga walaasheey ku yaalay Huriwaa aan kusoo xasuustay sawirkaan, aad ayuu ugu egyahay, siiba barandada iyo dhirta. I like unique, colourful flowers laga helo Soomaaliya, qaas ahaan guryaha Xamar, some imported, yea, but dalal kale kuma arkin those same flowers. Buuxo, perhaps the Canadian flag is there because the owner of the that new hotel -- called 'Tropical Village,' which can be seen one of the pictures -- are Soomaali-Canadian. Perhaps. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

I don't get it, we all seem to barking at the wrong trees…just google on the historical wonders these people (M.Dheere, Yeey, Qanyare, Indhacade, Yalaxoow, Dahir aways) You are comparing the feeble Father of Stooge of Xabashadda and other warlords to Xasan Daahir Aweys. I am not a defender nor apologist of Aweys, never was and neither a fan of his ideologies. However, that is out of bounds by comparing him to those dagaal'oogiyaashaan, some stooges of Xabashadda. Korneel Daahir Aweys may have fought in the civil war, wars as brief as they were, but he did not fight for his clan, he did not fight for power and certainly not for Xabasho. He did fight for an ideology, a common one from Marooko to Indoneesiya to Afgaanistaan.

Kuwani berina wax kalay soo wadaan!!! Ka waran kuwa Xabashadda -- Soomaali's numero uno nemesis; cadowgooda koowaad, labaad iyo sadexaad, no doubt -- keenay, isla Xabashadaas xasuuqay dadka maatida ahaa u sacabtumay, haddana leh waa ku fiicanyihiin oo guryahooda maxee ugu bixi waayeen. Haddana leh waa 'argagaxiso.' Haddana magaaladdii intii ka badbaaday dhulka la simay. Haddana kuwii kale masaakiinta geeljiriyaasha iska ahaa Mareykanka diyaaradihiis miigga weyn ku duqeeye, ku garaacay, kuwaas lagu yiri 'argagaxiso' kale ayaa tihiin, oo waa ku haboonyihiin. Kuwaas dadka magaaladda ka tirtiray, ka baabi'iye, ku xasuuqay, oo Xabashaddii ay keeneen kufsaday gabdhaha Soomaaliyeed -- the most repulsive, abhorrent, repugnant act any Soomaali with the littlest damiir ku jiro cannot withstand with -- kuwaas maxaa ka dhihi lahayd noo sheeg hee? Waa in la isla barbardhigaa waxa dhacaayo, oo la iska indhatirin. The question is, indeed, kuwaas bari maxee soo wadaan?

Maxaaba meesha yaalo oo la duqeyaa oo 'ongoing operation' ah? Mar horee dadkii dhameyeen, and I am sure xoolihii, duurjoogtii iyo dhirtii ayee u jeesteen inay duqeyaan. Uma maleeyo xataa kuwii badda ku jiray inay ka fakadeen.

Originally posted by Juje: Allah uu Naxariisto inti dhimatey....however the act of killing people who work for the TFG should be condemned....waa dad masruuf iyo hunguri uu raadsanayo carrurtooda..killing them is despicably out of order and does not bear any logical reason. Nin qof aan waxna ka galabsan diila uu maleynmaayo in uu dan Soomaaliyeed iyo mid diinba uu adeegayo. There are many ways you can opposse this TFG and confronting it, murdering minor workers is certainly not one of them. Sidaan horey u iri, hunguri iyo jago raadis ayee ka tahay. Waa baahnaan karaan ama ma baahnaan karaan. Qoys iyo reer baahan ayaa sugaayo. Waxaas iyo wax lamid ah waa jiri karaan. Haddee saas yihiina aad ayaan ugu xumahay dilkooda iyo ugaarsigooda, waana taas aan ugu tacsiyeeye, oona u furay threadkaan. Inkastoo aan violence iyo wax lamid ah si walba ugu soo horjeedo, haddana iskuma dhigmaan dadka la qaarjinaayo. Kuwa dibaddaha ka tagay, minankooda iyo qoyskooda oo ku nabad qabaan ka dhaqaaqay, oo iyagoo qabyaalad caabudaayo, damiir Somaalinimo iska tirtiray, inay Xabasho occupation u shaqeyaan u tagay dalkooda, kana doorbiday inay ku sugnaadaan dalalka shishe ay deganyihiin, jago, jeeb buuxis iyo wax kale raadinaayo -- kuwaas habayaratee -- let's just say kuwaas waa another case. Aan kala saarno dadka marka. Iskuma dhigmaan masaakiin hunguri raadsanaayo dalka ku sugan, oo saan first post ugu qoray, iyo kuwa uus buuxis u tagay dalka, qabyaalad caabudana, oo dal iyo danta guud aanba waxba ka galin. Kuwa dambe -- waa kuwa dibaddaha ka tagay, calooshood u shaqeystiyaal qabyaalad caabudo -- haddee wax ku dhacaan iyagaa isku geystay, dadka dalka jecel Soomaaliyeedna naxariis kama sugayaan saan u maleeyo. U tacsiyeey xataa ma iiga suurowdo kuwaas. Kuwaas -- aan ku celiyee mar kale, waa kuwa qurbaha ka tagay qabyaalad caabud u tagay inay ugu shaqeyaan Xabasho -- let them lay the sariir ay gogladeen. Or other words, let them eat the doolsho they made, as unmacaan as it is.

This is the original translation that accompanied the list. Ciyaal = children Ciyaalka = the children Ciyaalkeena = our children Ciyaalkaanaa = man, these children! Ciyaaloow = oh, children Ciyaalkeenoow = oh, our children Ciyaalkaasba = those children, too Ciyaalkaanba = these children, too Ciyaalkeena = our children Ciyaalkooda = their children Ciyaalkee = which children? Ciyaalkiisa = his children Ciyaalkeeda = her children Ciyaalkaaga = your children Ciyaalkeyga = my children Ciyaalkaas = those children Ciyaalkaan = these children Ciyaalbaas = unruly children Ciyaalkoow = children, children! [i missed this one from the list, soori.] Ciyaalkeenoow II = he who brought those/these children in [Many of you did not get this one; however, the word may consist two words of 'ciyaal keenoow,' which might have made more sense. This where you got the confusion from.] So it seems our sister Buuxo got the closest. Buuxo, yes your licence boostadda uu kusoo jiraa. Aaliya, Puuja and Kreepy, your Afsoomaali is not that bad, so rejoice. Anyone got any simple Soomaali test?

Waxaa maqli jiray absolute power corrupts absolutely. Awood adduunyo ayaa naga badatay meel walbaa iska duqeyneynaa? Runtii waxaan wax loo adkeysan karo ma'aha. U.S. Navy strike reported on Qaeda suspect in Somalia WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military launched a strike against a suspected al Qaeda target in northern Somalia on Friday, CNN reported. A U.S. Navy destroyer targeted the suspect from off the coast of the African nation, the cable news network said, citing unidentified sources. There was no information about the results of the attack, it said. The target was a suspect in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed 240 people, CNN said. The destroyer's guns appeared to be targeting a single person, perhaps moving in a convoy, according to the report. A Pentagon spokesman would not comment on the details of the CNN report. "We recognize the importance of working closely with allies to seek out, identify, locate, capture, and if necessary, kill terrorist and those who would provide them safe haven," said spokesman Bryan Whitman. "The very nature of some of our operations, as well as the success of those operations is often predicated on our ability to work quietly with our partners and allies." The United States launched air strikes in Somalia in January targeting three top al Qaeda suspects but killing their allies instead, U.S. officials have said. hose suspects also were wanted for the embassy bombings. Reuters

I even hear Adiss Ababa is not even theirs(historically)? Haa, magaalo Oromo ayee ahayd oo la dhihi jiray Finfine. Late 1800s ayee Xabashadda qabsatay oo magac cusub ula baxday, Adisababa. It is within Oromo boundary, not Amxaar [Xabashta].

Guddoomiyihii Degmada Howlwadaag oo Caawa la dilay Jimco, Juun 01, 2007 - Alle ha naxariistee waxaa Caawa la dilay Guddoomiyihii Degmada Howl-Wadaag marxuum Xasan Cali Siyaad (Xasan Fareey), kaasi oo ay dilkiisa ka dambeeyeen labo nin oo Bastoolado ku hubeysnaa. Marxuumka ayaa markii la dilayay waxaa uu ka soo baxay masjid uu ku soo tukaday Salaaddii Maqrib, kaasi oo ku yaala isla Degmada Howlwadaag, waxaana sida la sheegay uu ku sii jeeday gurigiisa. Dad goobjoogayaal ah ayaa sheegay in ay labada Nin ee dilka geystay ay ku meereysanayeen halka ay Guddoomiyaha ku dileen, mana suurtagelin in la sheego intii aysan dilka fulin. Waa Guddoomiyihii seddexaad oo lagu dilo magaalada Muqdisho, waxaana horay loo dilay Guddoomiyayaashii Degmooyinka Yaaqshiid iyo Huriwaa , iyadoo dilalkoodana ay ku soo beegmeen xili aysan hagaagsaneyn xaaladda ammaan ee magaalada Muqdisho. Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa beryahan waxaa ka dhacayay dilal loo geysanayay Dad rayid ah iyo Saraakiil ka tirsanaa Ciidamadii Soomaaliya iyo weliba qaraxyo lala beegsanayay fariisimo ay ku sugan yihiin Ciidamada Dowladda Federaalka iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka ah ee Muqdisho ku sugan, iyadoo falalkaasina la sheegay in ay ka dambeeyaan kooxo ka soo horjeeda Dowladda Federaalka iyo joogitaanka Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka ah ee Dalka Soomaaliya. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Maamulka Gobolka Banaadir oo laga toogtay Seddex Guddoomiye Degmo ayaa wuxuu mar kasta sheegaa in uu wax ka qabanayo amni darrada ka jirta magaalada Muqdisho, tiiyoo ay sii kordhayaan dilalka loo geysanayo dadka rayidka ah, Saraakiisha Ciidamada iyo weliba mas’uuliyiinta Degmooyinka Gobolka Banaadir. Xigasho Masaakiintaas Eebba ha u naxariisto. Hunguri intee radinayeen naftooda ku waayeen. Dowlad ku sheegaan inay faragishtaan maba habooneen awal. Mar labaad Eebba ha u naxariisto.

What do you see in this map, created in mid and early 1800s? Taken long before European gumeysidoon arrived most of the continent. You see something on Soomaali lands. All the Soomaali lands are united, including Soomaali Galbeed, put on same colour. The only current land missing is in deep southwest, NFD and some parts of Jubbooyinka, which Soomaali expansion had not reached as a full then. If you even look closer, the lands of Xabash and Soomaaliya are not coloured the same. Yes, take a look again. The Xabash lands is coloured more light blue, in their historical small respective land.

Xaalka sababta keentay meesha kuma soo qorin. Waalidkooda intee kasoo xadeen, in the name of so-called abuse ayee dad kale inay u dhiibaan rabaan. Laakiin qaraabo ama asxaabta ehelka malaha miyaa ciyaalka? Soomaalida badankooda qaraabo ayee ku fakadaan markee saan dhacdo, oo u dacwoodo.