Originally posted by Cadaan: LOL MMA you nit-picker, the thing is, yes those names are derived from names or words from other languages, but as far as I know, only Somali people use these names. For example, the name "Cabdi" comes from "Abdul", just that Somali people have taken it as their own. I don't know anyone that has the name "million" in english, and I've heard of a few Arabs who have the name "Shukria" and "Naima" obviously it's a common name, but I've never heard of Arabs using "Shukri" or "Nimco". Yes, they are Soomaalinized. That was my point. Aadan Seylac, the thread initiator, did, however, only asked "unique Soomaali names," which I assume he meant only authentic Soomaali names that has Soomaali roots as well. Those you listed and others, though Soomaalinized, do not happen to be Soomaali in origin. By the way, the name you chose, Liibaan, is a beautiful Soomaali name with a deep meaning. What is ironic is that you, as a non-Soomaali revert, chose an original Soomaali name, and those who claim to be Soomaalis hold their thumbs at the beautiful Soomaali names, naming their children in the process some so obscure Carab names that even Carabs do not name their children. The world is upside down, my friend. P.S. -- Did you give your children Soomaali names as well? Or the Mrs. chose a typical, unpronounceable Carabi names as it is the fad in these days?

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: Mr. Know-It-All a.k.a. MMA, adaa kaa sugeynaa hee, noo keen kuwo 'authentic' eh ...Ani mugoo waxaan qoray Soomaali iyo nus iiyihiin...Whether 'Soomaalinized' or ayeeyooyinkeen ladhihi jiray or not, they are Soomaali enough for me...Last I checked 'authentic' Somali names la'isma weydiin, unique leeba la isweydiiyee...Soomaalinizing it makes it 'unique' no? Mr. Knowitall beelee, naga daa. Balaayo kula know it oolaatay. Real, authentic Soomaali names maa rabtaa? Maa iga dhaaftid inaa inta kusoo taxo ha igu qasbinee. Let's see some random, though. Letter Q: Qanciye, Qorane, Qaal, Qorax, Qorsheel, Qamaan, Qeyd... [Qalanjo, Quman, Qani...for girls] G Gaaxmaal, Gaas, Guul, Galad, Gidde, Gundhe, Giire, Godax, Gandi, Gardaad, Galmaan, Galbeeti, Guuxad, Gobey, Geyre, Good, Gacal, Galool, Goongle... [Gacaliso, Gaadsan, Geelo...] B Bood, Barbaar, Baxnaan, Beynax, Baxar, Bootaan, Birre, Beyle, Buqul, Barqad, Barkaale, Budul, Biixi... [bilan, Baxsan, Beydan, Barni, Beegsan] M Maax, Macaane, Mooge, Mire, Meyran, Muruqmaal, Makaraan, Malabe, Mudane... [Maruuq, Milgo, Maano, Marwo, Muraayo, Malabo, Maandeeq...] T Tiir, Tarax, Taagane, Tungub... [Tiriig, Tusmo, Toosan, Taliso, Tanaad...] N Nooleeye, Naageeye, Naayeel... [Naaleeyo, Nagan...] K Kaafi, Kulmiye, Kaah, Kaafiye, Kulane, Kaar, Kablan, Keer, Keyse, Kooshin, Kaahin, Kaahiye, Kaalmeeye, Kablan... [Kaaho, Kaafiso, Kiin, Koos, Kinsi, Kaad...] J Jirre, Jirde, Joogo, Jirac, Joof, Joocle, Jees, Jeelle... [Joogto, Jeegaan, Jalaqsan...] X Xariiri, Xalane, Xabeeb, Xundule, Xeyle, Xiis, Xareed, Xaaf, Xaad, Xiir... [Xarago, Xareedo, Xaali, Xaadsan...]

Originally posted by Cadaan: Malyuun. Warsame. Nimco. Shukri. Deeqa. Malyuun, Nimco and Shukri are not particularly Soomaali names or origate from Soomaali language. Malyuun [Millions - Ingiriis], Shukri [shukran - Carabi], Nimco [Nimca - Carabi]. Your "Istar" is not Soomaali as well. [it is borrowed from star - Ingiriis.] However, for a non-Soomaali, you are pretty well, unlike those Soomaali sisters and brothers who are challenged when it comes to authentic Soomaali names. They think the Soomaalinized Carabi names are, in fact, Soomaali -- many of them just affixed at the end the "o" letter as a suffix. Names such as Sadiiq, Dahabo, Cawrala, Cibaado, Muxubo, Madiino, Amran, Siraad, Mako, Canab, Hibo, Haaruun, Jamaad, Luul, Shamso, Farxiyo, Daahir, Cilmi, Qaali, Cambaro [yes, it is Carabi in origin, derived from cambar word], which were posted on this very thread. So, come up with authentic Soomaali names, not wax la isku kab kabay, dad kale laga keensaday. Just because ayeeyooyinka were called those names do not make them to be Soomaali in origin.

I have whole pages of them. I compiled them one by one. Names, nicknames, regional names, city names, town names, names that describe one's specific body -- you just name them. Let me give you a sample, from B to Y of Soomaali alphabet: B Baraar, Budul, Bulbul, Badmaax, Barkaale, Buuni, Bootaan, Bidde, Boor, Bucaale, Beynax, Bille, Beyle... Y Yeel, Yalax, Yool... Iyo nita kale u dhaxeyso, some random: A Ayaanle, Alaale, Arboow, Absuge, Aare, Aboole, Arbooshe, Abroon, Absiye, Abyad, Aabi, Armaan, Ayax... X Xaarato, Xagar, Xiddig, Xayeesi, Xeed, Xiif, Xoosh... H Hadaf, Heybe, Hilaac, Habane, Haraco, Hidde... F Faax, Fiin, Faaliye, Faandhe, Faahiye, Faahin... W Warfaa, Wabar, Weer, Waayeel, Waceys... L Looyaan, Laabane, Luhume, Liil... M Macoow, Maare, Mayran, Makaraan, Maax, Magan, Magal... I Iftin, Isir, Isloow, Ifaaye, Ileeye... S Sooyaan, Soofe, Sahan, Sahal, Sooraan, Sarmaan, Simane, Seed, Saroore, Soobare, Samaan, Sareeye... Sh Shamuure, Shidde, Shidane, Shiriye, Shaaciye, Shantuur, Shuuriye, Shooriye, Shibin, Shardi, Shooble... Enough, I guess.

Intii xaqdaro lagu dilay ee Soomaaliyeed Eebba ha u wada naxariisto -- aamiin. Reerkoodana samir iyo iimaan haka wada siiyo. Maato Soomaaliyeed ayaa maalin walba gacan ka xaqdaran ku dilo, hantidoodana ku boobo, gabdhahoodana ku kufsado, taas oo ka wada dhacdo dalkeena, ee taas yaa la iloowin.

Ileen ninka dhab ayee ka ahayd markuu maalin dhawayd digniin siinaaye. It was not a rhetoric, empty words lagu cabsiinaayo, I see. Neither was he bluffing. ----------- Xigasho

Dad Soomaali baa degan.

Ever checked the one at Yorkdale, Underdog? Surfiyo, digsi, qaato, macalgo, fargeeto, koob, dhoob iyo wixii lamid ah bas maa lagu gadaa dukaankaan horta? Mise other "things" wax kale waaye. What would they be?

Kuusha, qarxis yaah, LoL. I didn't know those who shot him a few years ago knew him personally. I thought they were some robbers or gangs. Is this the dude on Bloor close to Keele? Weston iyo Lawrence aeea ayuu small office ku leeyahay. Originally posted by LayZie G.: quote:I had noticed his office was closed the recent Fridays, since it was right next to the masaajid I pray at sometimes. Suspiciously, it was closed when it is the busiest time for accountants. His office is inside small building. You have to take the stairs, open a door, go to a hall and then stumble upon his office for you to actually spot it, not something kor ka arki karto. Its not something one notices right after getting off a masjid from outside, in other words, same old MMA snooping around as always. There goes all your ajar. If you have passed his office, you would have stumbled the small masaajid I am talking about. Let's just peruse your own words to give where the masaajid is: Masaajid is inside small building. You have to take the stairs, open a door, go to a hall and then pass the xawilaad office of Qaran, then further pass this accountant's office to reach the little masaajid I am talking about. For your information, the little masaajid in the same second floor hall ku yaalaa. Not outside, but inside the same floor in the same building. Hubso intaadan "snooping" iyo wax kale la soo boodin.

Musqulihii Soomaaliya aan ogaa in la geeyo fiicneyd, iyadaaba hal daqiiqo ku last gareyn lahayn. Baranbarooyinkii ayeeba space ka heli lahayn.

You took the message as a literal. The "world" the writer is talking about is not the real world -- he has in mind Mareykanka. Itoobiya would not and cannot be in Soomaaliya without Mareykanka's help. They just cannot do it without their financial, military and political assistance. If Mareykanka ka baxo meesha, their lap dog meeshana wuu ka baxaa, so Soomaalida markaas isku soo hareyso, wada hadli kartana. Faragaliska waa Xabashada uu Mareykanka kor kala socdo, la'aantooda ayba waxba tari lahayn.

A well-known Soomaali accountant is in a pot of boiling water in the recent weeks in this city. I had noticed his office was closed the recent Fridays, since it was right next to the masaajid I pray at sometimes. Suspiciously, it was closed when it is the busiest time for accountants. It was then when I heard the news: The guy fled and is, in fact, vacationing in Soomaaliya currently, and his former "clients" are in heat by the vengeancing Revenue Canada. He used to fill bogus, inflated incomes for tens of Soomaalis for years, who in turn got back hundreds -- if not thousands of unqualified earnings -- of dollars back in income returns. Until now. His actions were typical, so expected, but the burning question is: Was his running off to Soomaaliya warranted in order save his a$$ when he was caught in the cookie jar and in the process his clients -- who knowingly collaborated in the scam as well, though -- feeling the heat now? Should they pay their comeuppance more than their fair share, including his? Or probably, they too should cut and run on their heels. Tan ku cashar qaata, Soomaaliyeey. Many abuse the system, but always expect at the back of your mind sometimes it -- whatever you are doing knowingly and illegally-- can catch with you. Another Soomaali accountant did a similar action in Mareykanka, who was caught last year, and many of his clients ka shalaaye.

Somalia's message to the world: Get Ethiopia off our back Afyare Cabdi Cilmi Globe and Mail March 11, 2008 P resident George Bush recently visited five African countries — Ghana, Liberia, Tanzania, Benin and Rwanda — and sent his Secretary of State to Kenya to try to end the political crisis there. But when it comes to Somalia, the Bush administration is not only silent but openly supports Ethiopia's occupation. The situation there is now far worse than it was in December of 2006, before Addis Ababa's invasion. In Mogadishu and much of Somalia, the American-supported Ethiopian intervention caused the deaths of more than 6,000 Somalis. According to United Nations officials, the humanitarian crisis in Somalia is "worse than Darfur" — more than a million Somalis fled their homes. The Ethiopian occupation did not deliver the outcome that Washington desired — crushing the Islamists, creating a secure environment and leaving the country quickly. Instead, after more than a year of occupation, the picture is one of assassinations, bombings, looting, media repression and systematic displacement. Worse, there is no end in sight to the quagmire. If there is the will, the U.S. and the rest of the international community can reverse the Somalia crisis. The issue is not about fixing an artificial and illegitimate government that exists on the backs of Ethiopian soldiers and donors' money. The U.S. should aim at the real goals: ending the Ethiopian occupation (the source of Somalia's current problems), addressing the humanitarian catastrophe, initiating a genuine Somali-owned peace process, and dealing with the war crimes committed in the country. It is about time the U.S. realizes that Ethiopia's occupation is radicalizing more Somalis and that the government of warlords is beyond repair. There is no choice: The occupation has to end immediately. Somalis do not want Ethiopian troops in their country and, based on the what has been happening so far, resistance to the occupation will only grow. Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi's scheme to create a no-win situation for the Somalis — accept the Ethiopian occupation or face a brutal civil war — will surely have a negative impact on long-term relations among the diverse communities in the Horn of Africa and different clans in Somalia. From the Somali perspective, Washington and the world community must understand that Ethiopia's occupation troops and their warlord proxies are a huge liability. Moreover, there is an urgent need for a Somali-owned peace process. Earlier peace-building efforts failed because one or another key stakeholder was excluded. Islam as a faith and Islamists as a force cannot be ignored; the values these diverse Islamist groups represent have roots within the Somali people and must be included in any peace process. Dismissing those forces resisting the Ethiopian occupation as terrorists is neither accurate nor useful for building peace in Somalia. The U.S. also needs to understand that its policy preference of incrementally fixing the results of the Ethiopian-manipulated peace conference in Nairobi (or imposing the Ethiopian design on the Somalis, as many believe) is untenable — the process that produced the current charter, parliament and government was tainted. What is needed is a comprehensive process that addresses governance, security and justice. The debate should start with Somalia's 1960 constitution — it is the only one that a majority of Somalis voted for and one that can accommodate different groups' constitutional and policy concerns. The real challenge is establishing a Somali-owned peace process. One important precondition would be to empower a neutral and credible third party. The UN understands this, and urged the Saudi government to take the lead. Others believe Qatar would be an excellent candidate. The international community should also tap the expertise and connections of the Djibouti government and its president, Ismail Omar Guelleh. As an ethnic Somali, Mr. Guelleh understands the nature of the conflict, and he has good relations with Washington. He might be able to facilitate such a process if the international community is serious about ending the conflict. Charles Taylor, Liberia's former warlord/president, is on trial for the crimes that his forces and his proxies committed against the civilians of neighbouring Sierra Leone. Therefore, the international community should not turn a blind eye when it comes to the war crimes that Ethiopia's troops and proxy Somali warlords have been committing against Somalis for the past year. Perhaps the recently created, New York-based Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect should make Somalia its first project. If a Somali-owned peace process is established, there will be no need for foreign forces — Somalis will keep the peace as they did in peaceful areas of the country, and they will challenge all forms of extremism. The key to bringing the Somali people on board is ending the Ethiopian occupation and the warlords' impunity. The international community has a responsibility to protect Somali civilians from Ethiopia's occupation troops. Its silence sends the wrong message — that Ethiopian soldiers are in Somalia with its consent.

Nimco miyaa magaceeda mise Naciima? Soor inay kariso ahayd intee baasto baasto ku qafiiftay.

What does the Soomaaali xeer has to do with the civil war? And why is he completely ignoring the giant geri in the living room -- Xabashada? Mise xeerka Soomaalida Xabashada hala dagaalamina leeyahay?

Tronto? Magaca ha noogu ciyaarin waraa. Waa Koronto, dheh Koronto, jeega dheerkaa taacun xaan dhahaa.

Ciil badnaa. Walaalaheena Soomaaliyeed Eebba ha u gargaaro -- aamiin, Eebboow, aamiin. Walaahi waa ciil ciil dhalay.. Isla Xabashada waxaan galabsaneyso dad "Soomaali" sheeganaayo u daba socdo, dabanaageynaayo. Friggin' unbelievable.

Originally posted by Hayam: LOOL MMA, walahi I read them as a 12 yr old, what else could I have done when everyone decided I was already too old to play outside and a long summer ahead of me at home..you cracked me, I turned the pages too, when things were well getting a bit too steamy! when I told my cousins that I read them they just wouldnt believe me. memories man [ :eek: :eek: :eek: ] It is a bit shocking if you read his books when you were merely 12. I was in my mid to late teens when I started reading them, and still was shocking to me what some of paragraphs were in his books.

Any way for the record, does any one has or came a cross the pic of this so called G Gabre???????????????? i just wanna see his face Waa kaas, with the dark sunglasses.

Magaca Soomaali Maxaa loo eedeeyay magaca Soomaali? Teer iyo markaan caqliyeystay ilaa iyo hadda waxaan markasta isweydiiyaa waa kuma Soomaaliga la wada eedeeyo? Ma wax baa naga khaldan? Hadday wax inaga khaldanyihiin, ma sixi karnaa oo hal hayska u ah qof kasta oo Soomaali ah oo arka wax bulshada dhexdeeda ku xun? Waa kee eedeeysane kan eedeeynaya maxuu yahay? Run ahaantii dhacdooyinkaa aan la kulmay ma ahan kuwo la soo koobi karo waa dhacdooyin qof Soomaali ahi uu eedaynayo Soomaali kale. Tusaale ahaan: Galab ay tahay soon 5:30 ayaan waxaan isiri ajar doono oo ku tuko masaajidka intaad ku tukan lahayd gurigaaga. Markii salaada la tukaday baa qof walba u jeestay meeshuu ka bixi lahaa anigu waxaan abaaray irridda koonfureed oo aan ku ogaa kabahaygii waxa aan ku soo beegmay saf dheer oo dad badani isku garbinayaan, isagoo qof waliba ku dadaalayo inuu isagu horbaxo. Meesha kabaha lagu xafido hoosteeda waxaa ku dhegen “ogeysiis" dadka looga codsanayo inayan kabaha ku istaagin. Dadkii baxayay qaar ka mid ah ayaa ku istaagay meeshii calaaamadda lahayd balse waxaan u arkayay wax si qalad ah u dhacay oo aan qof lagu eedayn karin qofkii sameeyay maahee. Nin ka mid ah dadkii baxayay baa arkay qaladka dhacay oo yiri, "Meeshan yaan lagu istaagin baa ku qoran." Isla markiiba 50 jir garmadoobe ah baa soo booday oo ku dhawaaqay -- magacii dulnmane Soomaali -- oo yiri, "Soomaalidaan wax ma maqlaan." Markaasuu inta ugama harine waxuu yiri, “Waligoodba meel kasta oo ay joogaan dhaqan xumay la joogaan." Arintaa aad bay iiga careysiisay anigoo isu haysta inaan Soomaaliga aniga kaliya ka joogo markaas, baan iri, “Meel baad kaga dhacday magaca Soomaali dhaqan xumana laguma yaqaan.” Qaar ka mid ah dadkii ayaa si naxariisi ku jirto ii soo fiirshay, iyagoo u riyaaqaya jawaabtaydii ayay hadalo goos goos ah soo tuurtuureen, kadib ninkii jareexeeyay magaca Soomaali baa inta soo booday yiri, "War yaad ka xigtaa magacaan Soomaali?" Waa wax yaab leh oo Soomalidaa wax ay tiraahdaan -- "isuqabe aan loo qabin isla qaayo weeynaa" -- oo waxaan moodayay inaan ka xigo magaca uu ceebeeyay. Waxaan dhacdadii labaad kala kulmay maqaayad ay Soomalidu ka qaxweeyaan iyo waxaan tagay barta lacaghayuhu dalabka ka bixiyo, waxaan soo qaataya shaah anigoo abaaray darka sonkorta iyo caanaha looga darsado dad door ah baa iga hormaray iyadoo isheydu qabatay Soomaali iyo dad kalaba. Waxaan soo gaaray kaalinkii, waxaa garbahayagu simeen nin dhalinyaro ah si fiicana u labisan, isla markaas aan isiri reer magaalnimadiisu way qotodheertahay. Miiska waxaa ku daadsanaa wax yar oo sonkor ah iyo xoogaa caano ah, wixii meesha ku daad sanaa baan damcay inaan iska nadiifiyo markuu arkay inaan warqad qaatay oo aan tirtirayo buu yiri, "Maxaad ka nadiifinaysaa meel Soomaali joogta nadiif noqon meysee." Anigoo ka xumaaday laakiin aan u muujin baan iri, "War maxaad Soomaali u eedeynaysaa cid walbaa daadin karta." Waxa uu igu jawaabay, "Meel walba waxaad gurigiina ku soo gubteen baad la joogtaan." Arintaa iyada ahi waxay igalisay amankaag iyo yaab waxaan is iri dadkani miyaysan aheeyn Soomaali. Xaaladdaas qalafsan ee qofkasta oo waxgaranaya dhibka ku ah ama uu ka danqanaayo waxaa cadeystay dad aan ku tilmaami karo caqligaab ama aqoonyare, dadkaa iyaga ah waxay ilbaxnimo moodeen iska fogeynta dhaqanka iyo magaca Soomaali, soo dhaweynta dhaqan iyo magac aysan laheyn ku faanid iyo ilbaxnimo qof isaga la mid ihi sameystay, aan ku fakarin inuu la tartamo laakiin doorbiday in laga fiican yahay oo isdhiibay. Markasta oo aan maqlo Soomaali waxa ka sheegaya magaca Soomaali waxaan soo xusuustaa heestii ahayd, "San ku neefle ma ogali inuu iga sareen karo oo Soomaali baan ahay." Waxaa badashay, "This is Ameerika." Xigasho [Waala tifaftiray qoraalka.]

Bulldozer = cagafcagaf Excavator = Qufe/faage Hauler = Xamuule Rig = Riigga [lasoo deensaday] Piledriver = [?] Trailer truck = isjiid macala rimoorkiis Tractor = cagafcagaf Elevator = wiish [anything that lifts is called wiish in Afsoomaali, crane being called wiish among them]

Kaganacsiga dhuxusha oo kusii kordhaya Jubbooyinka Kismaayo - Deegaanada Jubbooyinka ayaa tan iyo markii ay burburtay dowladii dhexe ee Soomaaliya waxaa si weyn ugu soo kordhayay jarista, dhoofinta iyo ka ganacsiga dhuxusha oo ay si weyn ugu taajireen dad badan oo ganacsato Soomaali ah waloow ay jiraan dad noloshoodaba ay ku tiirsantahay dhuxusha ka ganacsigeeda. Qaar kamid ah aqoonyahanada Soomaaliyeed ee ku dhaqan Jubbooyinka ayaa walaac ka muujiyay dabargoynta dhirta oo si xoogan oga socota koonfurta Soomaaliya waxaana aqoonyahanaasi ka mid ah Xasan Dhiilood oo ahaan jiray wasiirkii hore ee maamulka goboleedka Puntland waxaana uu qeexay in dhuxusha ka ganacsigeeda uu yahay mid xaaraan ah sida uu hadalka u dhigay isagoo ugu baaqay dadka Soomaaliyeed ee dalka kusugan in ay waxyaabo kale ku badashaan ka ganacsiga dhuxusha si ay u badbaadiyaan nolasha dadka reer miyiga ah iyo xoola dhaqatada oo imikaba iyaga la tiicaya oon iyo haraad iyadoo xoolahana ay yihiin kuwo waayay geed ay diirtaan iyadoo ay usii dheertahay abaaro ka jira gobolka. Magaalada Sismaayo ayaad arkeysaa wadooyinka dhinacyadooda qaarkood dhuxul sida dabaqada oo kale la isa duldulsaaray kuwasi oo lagu daabulo dekeda Sismaayo si loogu dhoofiyo wadamada Qaliijka oo imika loo dhoofiyo dhuxusha. Dadka ku dhaqan xaafadaha ay yaalaan dhuxusha ee magaalada Sismaayo ayaa ka cabanaya caafimaad daro iyo dhibaatooyin dhinaca dhicaca hawada ah oo si weyn u saameeysay dadka dagan xaafadaha Laanta Ganacsiga iyo Via Afmadoow halkaasi oo ah goobaha ugu badan ee ay yaalaan dhuxusha. Jarista dhuxusha oo ah meelaha sida weyn looga jaro dalka gaar ahan Jubbooyinka ayaanan la ogeen xiliga ay ka joogsan doonto jarista dhuxusha balse waxaa jirtay dhoor jeer oo hore ayay dowladu FKMG mamnuucday ka ganacsiga dhuxusha iyadoo hadana aad moodo in halkeedii uun ay kasii socoto. Soomaalida Maanta

A decade ago, the Western world were obsessed with this three-letter abbreviation. Too much fear-mongering, where a whole consult-based industry arose, to take advantage of many typical Westerners buying that fear and storing in storage Eebbe knows what, believing the world as we know it will end when the year 2000 hits. Maan, remembering all those brouhaha and much ado about nothings of these days. How gullible humans can be.

And the second one aniga uu ahaa. Waaba ka naxay when only one qof u codeeye. Beerlaawe in loo camiro waaye, see waaye.

His forces overwhelmingly were Soomaalis and he was Soomaali. About him being "nationalist," depends what one calls a nationalist. Are Ceyroow/Rooboow/Turki/Co nationalists since they are fighting for Soomaali lands now, not Muslim Oromo lands? I do agree with you, though, about not historically being known about his clan, and that itself adds more into his Soomaalinimo. No qabiil sheegan karo, and fast majority of those qabiils now la arko did not exist then. His qabiil was Soomaali then, since magaca Soomaaliyeedba itself waagaas cusbaa.