That subcontinent and their abnormal fixation of divinity in humans.

Sawirgacmeedkiisa maqaarka lagu kor sawiray meesha suran ayaaba i dilay. Which maqaar is it from? From sagaaro ama deer, probably. Who designs xafiiskiisa, his receptions and likes horta? This guy seriously needs a professional decorator. A typical qurba Soomaali house looks more neater, less cluttered, simple than his reception or whatever it is.

"These declarations [of an Islamic emirate] are aimed towards incitement against the Gaza Strip and an attempt at recruiting an international alliance against the Gaza Strip. "And we warn those who are behind these Israeli Zionist declarations: the Gaza Strip only contains its people." Dhalinta should listen to this honourable man. Soomaaliya belongs to Soomaalis, too.

Originally posted by Gheelle.T: quote:Originally posted by Gheelle.T: quote: Originally posted by peacenow: Very good news this happened. These pakis where their to teach taliban behaviour. Well they chose the wrong country. Good riddance they are gone. All of them should be shipped back to where they came from. **** ***** ****** ******* MMA, it's fine with me to edit what I have wrote, but why not edit what this delusional guy wrote above? Brother, yours was a personal attack, which SOL's rules do not allow. As much as I find it loathsome of the despicable comments the member had written, I cannot edit. I don't see his comments against the rules of SOL. I have to follow the rules, not my whims. I would have loved to edit it, however if I do, I'd cross the thin line. Every thread and post about every politician or public figures 'good riddance' lagu yiraahdo on here SOL, it would otherwise force me to edit. A lot worse ayaa lagu qoraa on here (even including this very thread now), and I don't edit. I know, I know those culumo were not public figures nor politicians, still. Hope this explains it. Peace, brother, read above.

Finally. Stranded woman coming home NAIROBI, Kenya — Sitting in a packed business class airport lounge with a Canadian official at her side, Suaad Hagi Mohamud says she is finally allowing herself to relax. "I'm really happy I'm going back home," she told the Star as she waited to board her long flight back to Toronto. After days of talking about her case, she said she was at a bit of a loss for words. "I just can't wait to get there," she said as she flipped through the local papers, not really reading the articles. Once the flight takes off, she expects to recline in her second row seat and sleep. With charges dropped by Kenya's High Court this morning, Mohamud was free to return home on an emergency Canadian passport tonight. Earlier in the day, as she checked out of the guarded guesthouse where she has been holed up, she sang out, "Good bye room." She said she didn't have time to pick up her dry cleaning or recover the luggage held at hotel where she had stayed earlier, but couldn't pay the bill. "I just want to put my foot on plane. I don't care what I look like," she said before hugging her friends and getting into a silver Landcruiser with an official from Canada's High Commission. Mohamud had been trapped here since May, when Canadian consular officials branded her an "impostor" and accused her of using a false passport. She spent eight days in prison, which she described as "horrible." "There are no human rights respected in there," said Joyce Masgabo, a Kenyan woman who befriended Mohamud in custody. Masgabo also had her charges recently withdrawn for what she said stemmed from a vengeful business dispute, and came to Mohamud's hearing to show her support. The chaotic court scene seemed the perfect ending for Mohamud's emotional legal and political odyssey, which began when immigration officials thought she was not the person in her passport photo because her lips were different. Mohamud's case bounced between courtrooms today, and at one point it appeared her file had been lost. When Mohamud first arrived in the morning she said she was happier than she had been in weeks. But when it appeared her case could be postponed again, as she rushed to another courtroom she whispered, "Oh, my God. I'm not going home? I'm not going home." Six hours after her scheduled appearance, prosecutor Paul Mwangangi said the government did not want to pursue charges. Justice Stella Muketi ordered the return of Mohamud's bail money and she was put in the custody of Canadian officials who attended the hearing. "I'm so happy. I'm just so, so happy and can't wait to see my son," the 31-year-old single mother said outside of court. The break in the case came Monday when DNA testing confirmed that Mohamud was indeed who she said she was. The Canadian High Commission's second secretary here, Jonathan Boisseau, wrote a letter to Kenya's Director of Immigration Services Wednesday asking that charges be withdrawn. "The investigation of this matter by the Canadian Border Services Agency concluded on August, 11, 2009. It is the decision of the Government of Canada to allow (Mohamud) entry to Canada," states the letter obtained by the Star and submitted in court. Mohamud's lawyer, Lucas Naikuni, said he plans to sue the Canadian and Kenyan governments, along with KLM Airlines, whose officials stopped Mohamud from boarding a flight home May 21. He called it a "malicious prosecution." "This is an embarrassment, that a developed country like Canada can do this to a citizen," he said in an interview with the Star. "We had to go to DNA testing — we had to go that far?" He said the trial is being ridiculed here and had come to be known as the "lips case." Mohamud says she is dismayed at her adopted country's reaction to her plight and critics believe if points to a larger pattern of neglect of Canadians held abroad. "I never thought it was going to happen right after I became a Canadian citizen and I found a new home. I thought I (could) be far away from all this trouble," the Somalia-born Canadian said. "I really don't know what to say." Prime Minister Stephen Harper spoke out on the case for the first time Thursday. "Our first priority as a government is obviously to see her get on a flight back to Canada," he said, adding that the Canadian Border Service Agency have been asked to provide a full account of their actions. Koronto Istaar

Originally posted by Saaxil: Gaaroodi, her name is Georgie; no one said she is from Georgia the state. Never the less this is a serious issue, don’t be silly and talk about drunk women when your whole identity and humanity is being trashed by this supremacist. Saaxil About qoraalka, it was more about ranting (addled with a bit of frustration of whatever negative experience she had in Soomaaliya, me gathers) than a sound opinion piece. And I don't know what "sports stadiums and government buildings all over Muqdisho" the Soviets had built she is talking about, either.

Prior to 1969, Muqdisho had 4 miniature mosques. In 1975, Maxamed Siyaad built more than 150 medium-sized mosques including the largest mosque, which still stands to this day, the Isbahaysiga mosque. Siyaadist propaganda in full force. Even daring by venturing to quote the Quraanka Kariimka, about evidence and the truth. I don't care about what else you are trying to feed on SOL, but Isbaheysiga, sadly for a Siyaadist propagandist, was not built by him. It was built by for Sacuudi money. Qof walba baa og. That masaajid and the avenue that intercrosses where it is located at, Jidka Maka Almakurama too. And about other masaajido being built, his regime has nothing do with it. It was demanded by and built by xaafado communities in the ever-expanding Muqdisho of '70s. The growing population demanded it and it was a natural recourse to happen. What else would the propagandist credit to him again? That he built the National Theatre as well, the long road isku wada xirtay from gobollada dhexe to Waqooyi Bari?

I don't believe it; I cannot believe it either. Wax macquul suurta gal ah uma eko. It is too bizarre. Iyaga ayuu siray, as they already called him 'cynical.' Probably u been guuray those right-wing nuts, probably telling them he is praying to what they wanted to.

Harper consistently embarrasses Canada abroad Israel and the U.S. have well-deserved reputations for standing up for their citizens abroad. Canada, under Stephen Harper, is gaining a reputation for failing its own. Omar Khadr rots in Guantanamo. Abousfian Abdelrazik, tortured in his native Sudan, had to be holed up in the Canadian embassy in Khartoum for a year before being allowed to return to Canada. Bashir Makhtal – abducted from Kenya to his native Ethiopia and sentenced to life in prison for allegedly belonging to a separatist group – may or may not get Ottawa's help in fighting the verdict of a kangaroo court. Huseyin Celil – a Uighur Canadian human-rights activist serving a life sentence in China after being convicted, in secret, on charges of terrorism – has been forgotten by Ottawa. Its waning interest has run in tandem with its increasing enthusiasm for business with China. Perhaps the Harper Tories don't want anything to do with anyone tarred with the terrorism brush, rightly or wrongly. But now comes the case of Suaad Hagi Mohamud. The Toronto woman was left dangling in Nairobi after an airport official thought her lips did not match the picture on her passport. Rather than helping her, the Canadian embassy became a party to tormenting her. It has taken 11 weeks and a DNA test to prove her identity. Her case wouldn't even have come to light had it not been for Star reporter John Goddard, who has kept at it, day after day. Gar Pardy, former head of the consular services section of foreign affairs in Ottawa, and others see a pattern of discrimination. They draw comparisons with Brenda Martin, jailed in Mexico but rescued by a minister's intervention and flown back on a government plane. She is white, others not. The others are also Muslim. Star columnist Christopher Hume yesterday accused the Harperites of racism based on colour. "This smacks not just of prejudice but of apartheid." Former MP Omar Alghabra, who was Liberal citizenship critic, says the "elephant in the room" may be the Tory belief that some Canadians are not "real" citizens and, thus, unworthy of consular help. Dan McTeague, former Liberal minister responsible for Canadians abroad, says Harper shows no interest in Canadians in trouble overseas unless he is embarrassed into action by the media or the courts. Given that 9 per cent of Canadians are abroad at any given time, we need a parliamentary debate on the issue. Xigasho

Geelle, you are right. If it wasn't really Toronto Star, she might still be languished in Nayroobi, if not in jail in that city. Toronto Star broke the story July first and consistently kept it in the limelight by writing about it almost daily, sometimes on the front page of their paper. They also wrote consistent editorials supporting our sister Sucaad. That is my kinda of newspaper. Now the Canadian media have woken up, this sad saga is national since even the prime minister ka hadlaayo and the premier of this province. Here is today's editorial of that paper: A country that abandons its own If Canadian citizen Suaad Hagi Mohamud were wealthy or politically connected or media savvy, she would never have been stripped of her passport and her rights while travelling through Kenya. She might have been stopped at the airport in Nairobi. Initially, a Canadian consular official might even have supported her detention. When she presented her identification, the Canadian system would have rallied to her side. Suaad Hagi Mohamud, however, is not rich. She's not a political insider. She's not a media darling. She is a black Somali immigrant who had to live on charity once Canadian authorities sent her passport to Kenyan police and suggested they prosecute her for not really being one of us. She had produced a half-dozen forms of valid identification, but our bureaucrats closed their ears to her desperate pleas for help. By cancelling her passport, they rendered her stateless. And rendered her to the Kenyans – the same Kenyans who had rendered another Canadian citizen, Bashir Makhtal, to an Ethiopian prison. The default position of a powerful bureaucracy is control. But when its political protectors are unresponsive to principles or the people, bureaucratic control unconsciously, and without any obvious will, can become sadism. Remarkably, the Canadian politician elected by the people to oversee the bureaucracy – and to help fellow Canadians in distress – failed in his highest obligation. Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon crushed her hope for quick justice with mistruths and irrelevancies. In demeaning and damaging language, he said she hadn't tried hard enough to prove she was a citizen. What chance does a poor immigrant woman living on handouts away from her family have against that kind of power? Back channels out of Ottawa are now whispering that we don't have the whole story, that things aren't what they seem in this case. But they have yet to come clean. We heard the same thing from back channels in the cases of Donald Marshall and David Milgaard, terrible examples of abuses of citizens by their government. But what crime strips a Canadian of all their civil rights and even their human right to their identity? None. These are excuses for failures of justice and humanity in our bureaucracy and at the highest levels of our government. And as yesterday's Toronto Star pointed out, this is not an isolated incident. What do we learn from an examination of other cases? Overwhelmingly, the victims are people of colour, they are immigrants, they are out of the political mainstream. Our government treats them as less than real citizens. This incident demonstrates this government's flawed understanding of the true nature of today's Canada, and how through ignorance or malice it is frustrating Canadians' hopes for real justice. Editorial ______________ Raamsade, she is not in here yet, so hold that thought of yours.

And he secretly watches niikooyinka on youtube yaa ogaado. I bet my laba kumi iyo taano.

Xiddigo, isdaji abaayadiis. Kuwa falkaan geystay maalintee ahaataba maxkamad wey soo istaagi doonaan -- mid adduun ama mid adduun ahaynba ha ahaatee.

Soomaali yaa maamuli karo Eebba na lahee. Banooni ciyaareyno ugu yar kuma heshiin karno, marmarna garsooraha lala dagaalamaa. Marka baarlamaan intuu joogaa, xataa lixdameeyadii saas camal isku qabqabsan jiray.

Gaaroodi, let us not go that far. No need to insult Soomaali sisters. If you are against the policies or whatever about Ismaaciil Cumar Geelle, state so, but insulting our sisters looma dulqaadan karo.

Some rednecks in Mareykanka are some of the worst moronic dimwit groups I had ever seen. They don't even know what is good for them, what is in their interest, blindly and droolingly following like a programmed automatons whatever Fox News feeds them endlessly. Probably a whole junk of them don't even have a healthcare plan at all and they dare to oppose this reform that will be good for themselves in the end. Like automatons or robots, they are not even aware the basic necessities they need and what is good for them.

I saw that video on youtube too. When he went back to Xamar recently, he was shaking a Soomaali woman's hand oo safka dadka soo dhaweynaaye ku jirtay.

Aawey Che, asagaa "suqaarkaas" ka neefsan lahaynee. Sheekadii "kooy gaal dilaana" ayee suqaar u badashay xaajiyada.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: Which one of you Garowe boys is behind this character? I want some answers dammit. Ninkaan buufis Garoowe la yiraahdo kusoo socoto. Isaayar oo isdabaqabo intee kugu fogaan, igaarka. And about this thread, another spam, another waste of bandwidth.

Originally posted by Warrior of Light: Great post. Was wondering can someone recommend a good book to keep ? Reason why Im asking coz Im not a native speaker. Dont want to end up saying the wrong word. My library holds only holds this book. English-Somali phrase book of common and medical terms by: Wayne F. Peate Mahadsanid. This book just does that. I got it from public library some weekends ago and read it. It is great, though it is written in Soomaali-Ingiriis than Ingiriis-Soomaali, which would have been much easier to non-Soomaali speakers. ______________ Depression means murugo, so Salmaan has a point. Niyadjab too would be fine.

Carab maxaa keenay now? Sadex Suufi kala nooc lee Soomaalida kala ahaayeen: Qaadiriya, Axmediya iyo Saalixiya. Laakiin dagaalkii sokeeye dhacay laga faa'ideystay, oo abkoow mid walba iska soo xaadiriye meesha. Walaa Tabliiq, walaa Salafi, walaa Salafijadiid, walaa Wahaabi -- kooxdaa aragtid Soomaaliya waa iska soo wada xaadiriyeen. Sadexdii hore ayaaba boos loo waayee kuwaana intee joogaan. Eebbe ha u naxariisto mar kale wadaadadaas.

Yes, Canjeex, brother. As brother North wrote, I might even be there at the airport to welcome her arrival, if possible. But seriously, this could have been me or any Soomaali-Canadian who travels to Nayroobi. Walaahi it is sobering and bit scary too. And I applaud the Toronto Star, no wonder it always have been my favourite paper that I read daily. I also wrote to their reporters thanking them for keeping this story in the limelight and in public consciousness.

Is citizenship now defined by the colour of your skin? The DNA tests Suaad Hagi Mohamud was forced to undergo last week proved not only that she is who she says she is, but also that she is Canadian. The point seems lost on the current federal government, which has been content to let her twist in the Kenyan wind for three months while it did everything possible not to sort out the details of a case of mistaken identity. But it is a point worth remembering, especially in the face of mounting evidence that Prime Minister Stephen Harper's regime is determined to create different categories of citizenship. According to the administration's new meaning of Canadian citizenship, the main qualification is not residence, place of birth, oath of allegiance or passport – it's the colour of your skin. And in Canada today, God help you if you're not white, because the federal government sure won't. Indeed, that government creates these problems in the first place. Mohamud's case is a perfect example; her nightmare began when a functionary in the Canadian High Commission in Nairobi agreed with a Kenyan airport official and decided she wasn't the woman whose photograph appears in her passport. We were told, incredibly, that it had something to do with her lips. She was immediately declared an "imposter" and Kenyan authorities were asked to prosecute her. Although she produced all kinds of identification – including a driver's licence, OHIP card, social insurance card and a Canadian citizenship certificate to boot – her fate was sealed. The poor woman even spent time in a Kenyan jail, the horror of which one can only begin to imagine. Meanwhile, her 12-year-old son – clearly another figment of her imagination – languished in Toronto, wondering if, not when, his mother would be able to return home. Months after Mohamud's ordeal began and even now that its falsity has been exposed, no one in Harper's government has said a word, let alone apologized. This isn't just another political scandal; this is cause for deep national shame. This smacks not just of prejudice, but of apartheid. The whole episode, don't forget, began and ended with Canadian officialdom. Even if one accepts that bureaucrats in a far-flung posting make ****** mistakes such as this, the elected government's response has turned that error into something wholly different, namely a matter of policy. Whether that policy is official or not, it's now clear that only certain Canadians can count on the protection of the federal government. Had Mohamud been a white mother from Leaside, you can rest assured that Harper himself would have led the charge to have her repatriated. And we're not talking about the Omar Khadrs, or the Maher Arars, men suspected of real or imaginary ties to terrorist organizations. We're dealing with a single mom who produced her Shoppers Drug Mart Optimum card and even receipts from a local dry cleaners. But Canadian High Commission first secretary Liliane Khadour wrote to Kenyan immigration authorities, saying: "We have carried out conclusive investigations including an interview and have confirmed that the person brought to (us) on suspicion of being an imposter is not the rightful holder of the aforementioned Canadian passport." Well – guess what? – Khadour couldn't have been more wrong if she tried. Even yesterday, after the results of Mohamud's DNA tests were made public, not a syllable on the subject was uttered by anyone in government. Their silence speaks volumes. And what it says isn't pretty: Canada, that bastion of tolerance, that refuge of civility, that exemplar of multiculturalism, no longer belongs to its citizens. It is not ours, it's theirs. We just live here. The Star

Whose fault is it? (And why her plight 'is not as uncommon as people would think') Suaad Hagi Mohamud's ordeal is almost over. But outrage is growing that officials didn't help her when she was detained in Nairobi and had to fight to prove her identity Nothing in Canadian law stops the government from "picking and choosing" which Canadians it will help and who it will abandon, a former senior diplomat warns. In the case of Suaad Hagi Mohamud, a Toronto woman who was detained in Kenya for 12 weeks, "overzealous" civil servants chose to abandon her, said former consular services chief Gar Pardy. What's worse, he said, is that Ottawa could just say, "`Sorry it happened' and that's the end of it" unless somebody ensures there is a "protection of Canadians act." Such an act would turn "Crown prerogative" – meaning Canadians are at the mercy of the government for anything not spelled out in law – into something that gives overseas Canadians some protection. Mohamud's ordeal was closer to being over yesterday after Ottawa agreed to issue travel documents so she could return home. But other Canadians are still vulnerable. "This is an issue that is not as uncommon as people would think," said Toronto lawyer Lorne Waldman. "If it weren't for the fact she had supporters here she would probably have gone to jail for six months or a year for using a false document. Clearly that's problematic. "There are lots of other cases where people don't get all the publicity because people aren't interested or they don't have advocates in Canada and they get stranded." Many people are just assumed to be guilty, he added. The Conservative government has clearly tried to stay away from Mohamud's case. Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon and Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan avoided comment even when a legion of supporters, family members and even Mohamud's Toronto employer came forward to verify her identity. Pointing to a case in contrast, Pardy discussed the plight of Brenda Martin, who was jailed in Mexico, rescued by a minister's intervention and flown home in a government plane. "I'd like that same level of service for everyone. It shows how this is a matter of discretion and discrimination" the way different Canadians are treated. In another case, Justice Russell Zinn ordered the government to bring Abousfian Abdelrazik back from his Kafkaesque nightmare in Khartoum, where he received permission to travel but was denied a passport until he somehow disproved terrorism allegations. "The only basis for the denial of the passport was that the minister had reached this opinion; there has been nothing offered and no attempt made to justify that opinion," Zinn said. Pardy agrees that the litany of abandoned Canadians, from Maher Arar, tortured in a Syrian jail, to Abdelrazik and Mohamud should force someone in government to weigh the consequences. "We get brown stuff on our faces every time this happens. There must be a better way of doing this. "This is going on week after week. There should be some learning, some political will somewhere in the system to fix it." Mohamud's ordeal started in May when airline KLM and Kenyan authorities flagged her as suspicious, saying her lips and eyeglasses didn't look like her Canadian passport photo. Then the staff at the Canadian High Commission in Kenya not only failed to help her as a citizen but also sent her passport to Kenyan immigration authorities for criminal prosecution. That step astonishes Pardy. "You would think they would bloody well have made sure their judgment was based on something more than thick lips," he said. "The ministers should be insisting on a proper investigation. "Ministers have been getting a free ride. They are more and more sliding away from direct responsibilities when things go wrong. If ministers aren't responsible, then nobody is responsible." When Mohamud's lawyer pleaded her case to federal court, the Tories refused to comment because the case of mistaken identity was now a legal matter. One of the few remarks came from Cannon, who said she would have to try harder to prove that she was the person pictured in the passport. All the crucial decisions in Mohamud's frustrating tale of a trip gone wrong were actually made in an office building overlooking the Ottawa River, where bureaucrats in the Consular Services and Emergency Management Branch of Foreign Affairs have the power to help or hinder Canadians in need of their government's help. "The buck stops with them, and the advice they give to the minister," said MP Dan McTeague, a former parliamentary secretary responsible for Canadians abroad under former prime minister Paul Martin. "When these matters become political, it's entirely the discretion of the minister responsible in the case and they're often told not to speak." The overriding lesson, said Pardy, is "we need to make sure nobody forgets this." Koronto Star

Alloow sahal amuuraha.

Originally posted by AYOUB: ^^ I dare you translate you screen name to Somali. quote: Originally posted by Juje: Congratulation to brother Abwaan and his wife for the birth of their beautiful daughter this morning. Illah ha ugu dhigo mid diinteda, dalkeeda iyo ummadeeda anfacda...amiin! Amiin to that. Haye, ma isla badalanaa labadeenaba? Ayuub magac Soomaaliyeed ma iigula ekee. Waagaa magacaan la baxaaye online, some sagaal sano ago (it was before SOL), I think waa yaraa oo Soomaalinimo iyo waxaas ma iga heynin waagaas. Not now.