Ciyaalkaas Soomaali ma'ahee ee wax kale la imoow. Jigjiga Xabashi badan ayaa soo degay, iskuna balaarinaayo sanidihii u dambeeye. Soomaali intee qabiil hebel, qabiil heblaayo ku haayaan ayaa dhulkooda kis kis la iskugu balaarinaayaa. I saw that same thing happen in Gaarisa. Kenyaati badan ayaa kusoo arkay in last year mar aan booqday. That wasn't the case in late 1992 and early '93 mar aan u qaxnay oo Nayroobi ka qaxnay because fear of election violence.

Originally posted by NinaNC: MMA, haddii aad sidaas aaminsantahay why were you defending Sakiin on the thread? Xildhibaanada is qarqarinaya ilaahey mey ka baqaan intey is qarqarinaayaan. Danta shacabka why aysan priority uga lahayn agtooda? Shariif Xasan ma difaaceynin, abaayadiis. In uu ku saxsanyahay lee sheegaaye in this particular case, yacni I believe in codeynta qarsoodida ku wanaagsantahay and not gacan la taag taago. Gacan taag taag dhowr jeer la tijaabiye, buuq badana ka dhashay. That is another reason aan u jecleenba. Ra'iisul wasaarahaan cusubna in fursad la siiyo waa aaminsanahay, cod qarsoodi or not. Isqabqabsi aan micno lahayn adduunka kuma dhameysan karnee. Dad ayaa wuxuu qoray ugu soo horjeedo -- I could be among one of them, too -- laakiin isweydii, ra'iisul wasaarahaan iyo warlords waligood madaxweyne rabi jiray (and one of them became a transitional president), yaa daran ra'iisul wasaarahaan la magacaabay qoraalkaas qoray ama qabqabliyaashaas dhiigyacabka ah? And while many of them are still xildhibaano, waa kuwii dalkeena kala cun cunay.

Taas saan horey u sheegay wuu ku saxsanyahay, laakiin mar mar waxaa laga dareemaa Shariif Xasan in tan shaqsiyadiisa uu ka hormariyo tan danta guud.

Shariif Xasan waala buun buuniye ee wax weyn meesha kuma haayo, only his $$ u shaqeyso. The only thing he is good at is he is a good survivor. He is the most senior member that survived from the 2004 dowlad still holding a senior position. Wixii kale la tartami jiray hirar ayaa qaaday. True, he is a survivor, but in uu tiisa shaqsiyadeed ka hormariyo tan dalkeena waa qalad weyn, aad iyo aad u weyn. Kursigaas qof u qoray maleh, danta dadkeena in uu ugu adeego ugu soo fadhiistay, not mid caqabo ku noqoto ama dantiisa ku gaaro.

Naasir, the sister Ismalura is right. We need to give this ra'iisul wasaare a chance, meesha awalba wax weyn kuma haayee. Qoraalkaas uu qoray qalalaad ayaa ku jiro laakiin boqolaal xasuuq iyo wax ka daran geystay ayaa jagooyin heyn jiray, walina haayo. I don't think Md. Malmalaato, err Farmaajo, in tiisa wax weyn tahayba. Let us give him a chance again. Isqabqabsi iyadoo waxba bilaaban waxba ma taree.

The initator of this thread, do not post dead, mutilated body images on this forum, baliis.

Labadii Shariifka uultimo waa isku dhaceen. Shariif Xasan Sh. Aaden in uu qash qashaada yareeyo waaye and give the new prime minister a chance. And I don't understand why Shariif Sh. Axmed uu ugu dhaganyahay codka la qaadaayo ahaado mid la wada arkaayo and not a secret vote. Ma inta uu $$ kusoo taabtay uu rabaa arko qofka kasoo horjeestay? Maxee kalsooni la'aan u heysaa, ma Shariif Xasan ka $$ badan since I am sure asagana intoo kale ku taabtay. Teeda haddee awal haddee horey ugu dhicin in ra'iisul wasaare cusub lasoo magacaabay baarlamaanka diido, wey dhici kartaa maanta. Taas sharciga kuma jirto in ra'iisul wasaare walba lasoo magacaabo baarlamaanka ogalaado in the end; otherwise any nominated prime minister would have a carte blanche from the parliament and going before it would be futile exercise, since what purpose would it accomplish than stamp his approval. Also I thought when C/risaaq Xaaji Xuseen was nominated as a prime minister by Aaden Cadde in '64, the then parliament initially rejected him or hesitated to approve his prime ministership. (I am not too sure.) Wasn't there a famous political saying from Aaden Cadde, a saying that had the phrase 'habar kuuleey' included in it when his nominated prime minister was initially rejected? I thought the whole purpose of going before the parliament was to seek the parliament's confidence vote, not just a pre-approved stamped mark.

One of the best aan maqlo. Gabar yar oo wadaniyad ah oo heybad iyo qaayo iyo qiimo kusii darsatay qaadeyso. Yaa salaam! Rabi ha usii siyaadiyo caqligeeda iyo codkeedaba gabadhaas. No wonder her awoowe is wadaniga madaalaha ah ee Axmed Naaji Sacad.

Waa runtaa, abaayadiis. Afkii ayaaba laga wada xiray, kii ama tii socotona lugihii laga wada gooye, gacmihiina ha sheegin. I fear after Barbaartaas dalka laga ciribtiro, how many curyaamo soo bixi doono. Walaahi, a dark, stark future na sugeyso, future kasii daran kii awal ka cabsan jirnay during the warlord era.

Maykal Maryama gaalnimadiisa boqol Soomaaliyeed oo Muslim sheeganaayo ku dhaamaa, asaga at least gaalnimo waa lagu barbaariyee. Qashintaas ma gaaraan halyeygaas dalkiisa iyo dadkiisa usoo halgamay. I would take a 'gaal' Soomaali who believes in Soomaalinimo, who ixitiraamaayo walaalkiisa, jecelna dalkiisa iyo dadkiisa than mid Muslim sheeganaayo, qoorta iyo surta kaa gooynaayo in any time he gets a chance, ku dilaayo, ku kufsanaayo, ku dhacaayo, ku bililiqeysanaayo, maalkaaga xalaaleysanaayo. What kind of Muslim is that? Waa iska af waxaas. Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians - any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." [Quraanka Kariimka, Suurada Albaqra, aayada lixdan iyo labaatanaad.] That is Eebbe speaking to us, what I, a created mortal, to say then?

Is this infamous picture still circulating online after it was exposed right here on SOL about a year ago? Waw. First it was claimed it was a torture cell in Boosaaso, as Dayniile site claimed. And now this. Weird. They got the original picture from this site. Here is the original, unblurred picture. As one can clearly see, they are not Soomaalis. They are perhaps Sri Lankan people. The blurred picture -- one official's face is blurred in the photoshopped picture -- was first posted by Dayniile and other websites copied it without questioning.

Elefaanti, haa. Surwaaladaas elefaanti la dhihi jiray. Ma ogeyn Xasan Aaden in uu isqarxin jiray. Reero sigaar ma moodi jirin, sawirka sida ka muuqato.

Originally posted by NinaNC: ^^^sheekadaas ha u bixin ee sheeg sawirka hoos yaa ku jira, Samatar waa obvious. Xasan adigaa sheegtay, kan dhexda ku jiro kuu sii sheegaa. Waa fanaankii weynaa ee Bacalwaan. Rabi ha caafiyo, dhawaantaan Nayroobi ku xanuunsanaa. Ruwaayadaan ku jiraa ee fiirso. In the 1:38 ka bilaabanaa. Kan sadexaad ma aqaani. Ar surwaaladaas magacyada la dhihi jiray ma taqaan? Ereyga la dhaho wuxuu ka bilaaban jiray 'ele...'

How come no body is naming the obvious ones. Napolean Bonaparte, Aristotle, Queen Elizabeth, Thomas Jefferson... The little girl is meant to be Anne Frank, I think. Too many Western-based figures.

Originally posted by AYOUB: ^ If they were in Asian rather than European attire, you've moaned about "our dhaqan", right? 'European, European' intaadan lasoo boodin, tan ogoow: One can dress sharp regardless what cultural garment one wears. Got that? Nin ku labisan hoosgundi, shaal, bakoorad iyo koofibaraawe can still dress sharply. In the same vein one can dress in a tie and suit and still look rubbish, ma fahantay mar kale mise sharaxaada kuu sii wadaa? Do not associate sharp dressing with Western attire kaliya. Then again geeljirto maxee sharp ka yaqaanaan.

Kuwaas iyo ani Ibliis iyo Aaden isku nahnee wax kale sheeg, xaaji. That doesn't mean, laakiin, one cannot give what is due.

‎Ani ki je'el, mi'i je'elidaa Ani ki je'el, mi'i je'elidaa Haddii in je'laanee Jahwareerka mey (mahaa) iin ridee. Fanaanka sanadkaan cusub, . Babababa. Tuujka ileen heesaagaan bilaash uma amaanin.

Cabdi Ismaaciil Samatar qadarin weyn ayaan u haayaa. Wuxuu dhahana, I don't believe in uu ku deg degaayo. So I read a bit about qoraalkaas Farmaajo qoray. Inkastoo aanan rabin in lagu deg dego maadaama uu jagada loo magacaabay ku cusubyahay, laakiin meel ugu dhac u geystay dadkii usoo halgamay dalkeena, siiba labadii madaxweyne u horeeye. Wixii kutirikuteenta ahayd ayuu dhab ka dhigay. Haddee Talyaaniga qabiilo qaas wateen, weyna dhici kartaa, laakiin in uu dhaho ma'aha Aaden Cadde iyo C/rashiid Cali Sharmaarke meesha garabeeshin Talyaaniga watay ayee ku imaadeen, and not kartidooda iyo aqoontooda iyo daljecelnimadooda. Taas aad ugu gafay labadaas halyeey, Eebba ha u raxmadee. For the nine years of civilian government (1960-1969), more than 80 political parties surged onto political scene, all but one (SYL), based on tribal lineage. Needless to say, no broad coalitions could be built on the basis of blood. The Somali Youth League (SYL) was the original political party and partly responsible for freedom and independence from Italian and British colonialism. But most political parties were formed to protect the interest of tribes rather than ideals which might have defined Somalia as a nation. Corruption and nepotism were widespread problems in government. They were expected and even condoned. Tribalism was the main reason that corruption existed because it undermined good governance by enabling unqualified people to claim critical positions because they had the right blood. This reinvigorated the historic hostility between clan families in a new "official" forum. Violence erupted in parliamentary elections, particularly in 1968 (the last free election). The election fell victim to fraud; so too did a number of people, who lost their lives in the violence.78 Capitalism and Western-style democracy had effectively produced a hostile political reality. There was widespread discontent as to how bureaucrats embezzled and misappropriated the nation's limited foreign aid, and how the security apparatus abused its authority in enabling them. The nation's law enforcement and defense apparatus was especially disappointing. If two clans were to confront each other over livestock or territories, instead of helping settle the issues between the two clans peacefully, they always took sides and provided arms to one clan. Essentially, the peacekeepers facilitated war. Change was badly needed in government. Sadly, however, the newly elected president became a victim of tribal vengeance when he was assassinated by a member of his security force over clan issues. This was not just the death of one president, but the entire democratic process. This is why, on October 21, 1969, the armed forces, led by General Siad Barre, overthrew the civilian regime and immediately nationalized all major private corporations, prohibited political parties, and shut down the parliament. Ironically, people welcomed this new government and its socialist policies which gave many people, regardless of their tribal affiliations, an opportunity to participate in the new regime as long as they had not been part of previous governments. Whoa, whoa, whoa. All this in the name of romanticizing the Kacaan regime? If the civilian, elected government of '60s were that corrupt, I would like to know how corrupt were the Kacaan regime he apparently admired and admires? The civilian, elected government, as 'corrupt' as he alleged, did not at least misappropriated the state's wealth, did not embezzle its natural resources, beeraha danwadaaga ahna patronage kuma bixin. As 'bad' as he is alleging, the civilian government did not have had the stigma of 'laanguruusal gado' as Saado Cali sang. Loomana bixin 'booliqaran.' It never had a figure like Xoosh. And of course too many parties was the result of full freedom, full democratic laws in place which allowed and which Soomaalis took advantage of; it is in that environment that allowed and created uni-clan parties as he accused them being. But what of the military regime? In the name of romanticizing the last regime, in uu u gafo ma ahayn halyeeydii dalkeena usoo halgamay.

Originally posted by Jacpher: quote:Originally posted by Nassir: Gabbal & Allamagan, Jimcaala aka Jacfar has already been identified as the cyber cousin of xiin though he disguised himself as Maakhirian to take a cheap shot @ President Mohamed Siyaad Barre (RIP). Waryee, you don't have to hide behind oday waa hore geeriyooday to aim a cheap shot at me. Get the balls to address me directly without geed gabasho or try to refute my stance intellectually without resorting to irrational argument like place of origin. That's neither here nor there to the point of contention. Laakiin waxaan la yaabay saaxiib siduu qabiilka iyo cuqdada dhiigaaga uga buuxo. Not too long ago you were on the record protesting people refering PL as pirateland only to see you do that shortly after PL-Atam conflict surfaced. Ma waxay kaa aheyd I'm PLander inta ay tolkey yihiin PL? Waxaasaa lagaa dhahaa blind plege of allegience to tolka. Waxaan kuu heystay qof intaa ka caqli badan oo fikirkiisu aan ku saleysneyn shucuur iyo caadifad qabiil. My stace of Afweyne regime is clear. No need to add anything there. The very few clannists in this forum painting odaga as the savior of Somalia know the real horrors of the regime in their hearts so I don't know why they're deceiving themselves. No matter how much you entertain, no sane Somali will ever embrace the dictatorial legacy of Afweyne. Naasir, walaalkeen mee aad ugu dhacday. People can be cousins without meel kale la sheegan, no? Taas yaa diiday. I met the brother, Jimcaale, a few year ago, ee waxa ku sheegtay iyo wax u dhowna ma'aha. In la isxishmeeyo wey wanaagsantahay, siyaasadna waala isku isqilaafi karaa without la isku gafin.

colaadistiila@hotmail.com at 'istiila.' Aawey horta wariyihii kale asagana aan xishmo gaar ah aan u haaye, Guuleed from Reuters. Runtii wariyaal badan ayaa iskaga hadaafay Soomaaliya in the last two years. All those wariyaal never left during warlords' era. Dad badaho ah soo baxay, which their motto is: Qoorta ka gooy, gadaal hala iska wareysto.

Somali Stand on Trusteeship ( To the Editor of the New York Times ): An editorial dealing with the question of the former Italian colonies appeared in your paper of November 12, 1949. In this editorial you stated that the Russians, after being defeated in the United Nations, “have had their little triumph in winning over the Somali Youth to communism.” Although you intentionally omitted the word “League” it is obvious that you are referring to the “Somali Youth League”, which I have the honor to represent here. First of all, may I ask on what grounds you base the assertion that the Russians have won over the Somali Youth League to communism? Is this only because the U.S.S.R. together with the other Communist States (including the federal Peoples’ Republic of Yugoslavia) and others, have strongly supported our just and legitimate cause both during the last and the current sessions of the General Assembly of the United Nations? If so, may I remind you that they equally supported the legitimate cause of the people of Libya, and, at least, part of those of Eritrea. Libyan Demonstration May I be permitted also to point out that in May of this year (during the course of the last session of the Assembly) the Libyans organized open demonstrations in Tripoli and other centers, displaying the flags of Communist states and the portrait of Stalin. In these demonstrations they destroyed the British and the United States flags, stoned British and American citizens and violently attacked the Italian community in Tripolitania. Yet you do not consider the Libyans Communists because of their open expression of appreciation for the role the Communist states played in defeating the plans of the Imperialist Powers. While the Somalis have also demonstrated against the return of the Italians as administrators of Somaliland, they have not done so under the banners of any Communist state, nor have they attacked foreigners. These demonstrations were peaceful until broken up by British police. Indeed, the Somalis have done nothing to justify your accusation that they have been won over communism. You did not in your editorial – nor can you now – submit any evidence to sustain your charge. Stand of League It is a known fact that the Somali Youth League, as leader of the nationalist movement for the independence of Somaliland, unalterably opposes the restoration of the hated Italian rule under any form whatsoever in our land. Also the League strongly opposes any foreign domination of Somaliland. In pursuing the struggle for the liberation of the country, the League has submitted to the General Assembly and various committees of the United Nations several memoranda, petitions, documents, etc., containing certain relevant data. Today the confusion of nationalism with communism in colonial areas is common error. Fortunately, the world knows the methods practiced by colonial Powers to suppress nationalist movements and at the same time label them as subversive and pursuant of Communist ideology. All classes of the inhabitants of Somaliland are united in a common front and they are now concerned only with the immediate problem facing them: the national struggle for the freedom of their country from foreign subjugation. While maintaining our militant and purely nationalistic character, we refuse to be trapped in the conflict between the red communism of the East and the white supremacy “democracy” of the West. We retain deep sympathy and respect for all those nations – Communists and non-Communists alike – who strongly supported the just and legitimate aspirations of our people . ( I loooooof this .) The unjust solution proposed fro Somaliland is entirely contrary to the wishes and welfare of the inhabitants. That the majority of the Political Committee reached this unfortunate conclusion after considerable bargaining and political expediency at the sole expense of the weak and defenseless Somali nation is a fact well known to the whole world. It is as clear as the light of day that, in order to do something for the Italians, it is proposed to sacrifice the Somalis and offer Somaliland to Italy as a bribe. C/llaahi Ciise Max'uud November 19, 1949 This letter can also fit the current situation. How so it applies to our current predicament by just substituting a few terms and nouns. Rabiyoow, Eebboow, janadaada Fardowso ka waraabi marxuumkaan -- aamiin, aamiin.

Aaden Cadde iyo C/llaahi Ciise waa gartay, sadexda kale taloow yee ahaayeen? Eebba ha u raxmado halyeeydii geeriyootay. Wax kale kula yaabay Soomaalidii hore and sidee sharp dressers u ahaan jireen, siiba Marxuum C/llaahi Ciise Max'uud. Sawiradiisa dhan, he was sharp. He was a sharp thinker, too. I just remembered an article he once penned. Let me post it now.

Originally posted by Cawaale: Kan ajnabiga fiiri aid, farxad ma u dhinno, meel aan sharci iyo shareeco ka jirin oo dadka ku shukulooyaa. wax loo yeeli lee ahaa. Gacantiisa weyn ayaaba la yaabanaa markaa sawirka koowdiis kor ku arkay. In uu Soomaali ahayn isla markiiba waaba ka gartay, not because gacanta caddaanteeda but because of weynaanteeda. Soomaali xiito xiito, xayeesi, caato saas ma u gacmo weynee, kuwa dalkeena joogo dhalinta dhuub dhuuban waliba. Gacantaas gacan basal ka dharagtay u egtahay.

Saas ayee ahaan jirtay iyo ka daran. Sodon kiilomitir wax aad ugu yar ayee intaas oo isbaaro taali jirtay. Waxa kaliya ee Barbaarta la dhihi karo wey ku roonyihiin inkastoo qashinkooda iyagana buuxo.