Here. I hope it is not too technical and troublesome for you. But why all this hassle? Why don't you simply use Skype? I don't know neither since I never used them.

Apophis;863341 wrote: Let's just hope he settles all his plane rental bills before he leaves otherwise the country will be extra broke. Pay your bills bruv! The guy with the best profitable business in Soomaaliya, especially in Xamar, these past few years is the owner of diyaaradaha yar yar ay hor iyo gadaal u raacaan. He keeps very low profile. He is doing that for a reason.

Che, it is beyond sad. Maxaa our sisters kaliya ku imtixaamay the 'converts,' siiba kuwa madoow? Are Soomaali sisters the only Muslim ones out there. Kii xabsi kasoo baxaba oo soo Muslimay, gar yar soo sameystay, surwaalkana soo gaabsaday gabar Soomaali soo raadsanaa, as though xadiis sheegaayo in loo qoray iyaga kaliya. Go find Bakistaani, Hindi, Suudaani, Boosniyaan, Oromo, Turki, Carab sister. Maxaa ku imtixaamay Soomaalida kaliya. But of course laguma imtixaaminee, but our sisters diintii qalad ka fahmay oo kii 'wadaad' iska soo dhigaba mooday Muslim toosan, iskuna dhajinaayo. Xataa meher ma bixiyaan, because 'diinta' wey ogashahay. Soori iyo yarad haba sheegin.

Gabdhaheena qaarkood oo degan dalalkaan Galbeedka waxee noqdeen kuwa ugu sahlan si sahlan lagu guursado by non-Soomaalis. Years ago, probably in 2000, I think, at a Soomaali masaajid in Toronto. At the masaajid, there was a big muxaadaro, a huge gathering of Soomaalida. Last day of muxaadarada, after the end of a break, a convert walked to where wadaadada were seated at. He talked to the moderator, told him that he is a Jameykan convert and is seeking to marry a Soomaali 'sister.' And since there is a huge gathering, he might have a chance to find his future wife right on there. He requested if the moderator can announce it on the public speaker so the everyone can hear it. The moderator was a bit reluctant. However, he didn't want to offend him and briefly mentioned his request. That was it. He thought it would end right there. Unfortunately, it didn't. After the muxaadaro, to the big surprise and chagrin of the wadaado, there were notes passed to them at the office, with names and telephone numbers on them by the Soomaali sisters. The notes were for the converted dude who was seeking to marry a Soomaali sister. They all planned to marry him. Without even seeing him. Without even knowing wuxuu yahay. But the wadaado were wise men who believed in Soomaalinimo. They discarded the notes. Maxee kugu taalaa hee, the converted dude got wind of it. He went to the office, hungry and accusing wadaadada being 'racist' and whatnot. He stormed out and left masaajidka. Marka some of our sisters dhulka ayee isdhigeen, diintana qalad ka fahmeen. But many of them wey ka shalaayaan in the end markee guursadaan dadka sidaas camal ah.

Isra, was this your 11th anniversary of SOL today? Out of the blue soo booqatee.

Jasiira, sideedamaadkii Xamar Hoteel Taleex - Juun, 1990. Heesaayaasha muuqdo: Sahra Axmed, Tubeec, Maandeeq, Shankaroon Axmed

If Shariifkaan succeeds with this, Jawaari meesha in uu sii joogo wey ku adkaanee and his influence will get weaker and weaker, which to begin was non-existent among his clan. Dad aan reero qabiil ahayn ayuu mideeye, meaning folks from Koonfurta Galbeed are mad. They are really mad at Jawaari, as though he personally did something against them, conspiring with others against them. The new xildhibaano from Koonfurta Galbeed did not vote for Jawaari, only the few xildhibaano in his clan did. Jawaari is getting his support from his clan in Buurhakaba and that is it. He is soon becoming like Cabdi Muuse Mayoow, the ostracized SDM leader who led Caydiid Sr. to Koonfurta Galbeed in early '90s. Some are already accusing no wonder they share same clan, as though their clan itself is blame. Shariifkaan no doubt will use this leverage. And it is sad, of all people Shariif Xasan leading still.

to all the children above while you children bicker in cyber space let me teach you a lesson first of all there has never been and never will be an entity called 'soomaaliland' in soomaaliya. its fictitious entity created by qurba joog folks who were trying to use it (snm) as political leverage to gain power which later became 'soomaaliland' which ended in utter failure and the founder of this 'soomaaliland' rubbish c/raxmaan tuur [was] caydiid's new best buddy.... now people dont confused political ellites from abroad (and few confused souls) who want want power and money and what the reall locals want.... soomaaliya [represents] peacefully every city and every major town par one in its terrory no one is forced to be soomaali whether be boorame or jilib or anywhere else soomaaliya has convinced almost everyone to come on board except the goosashadoon folks in hargeysa and we are in advanced negotiations and nominating xildhibaano in the new baarlamaan and soon other wasiiro will be nominated... we know why this snm and later 'soomaaliland' failed in these regons its simple the locals told them to take hike even the admt that much. so dont insult the people of hargeysa, burco, berbera and countless others with this snm clap trap that was invented in hotel room to milk blood money from fellow clan members Now we are talking.

He thinks Xamaris 'Burtuqiiska' inay kasoo jeedaan. Reer Xamar, Xamariga, Banaadiriga, Burtuqiis kama soo jeedin, ee Yeman iyo Iiraan kasoo faractameen, qaarkoodna Soomaali isirkooda ahaa oo adiga kaa Soomaalisanyihiin. The so-called 'Burtuqiis' kasoo jeedo aad moodid waa Barawaaniga and they are not Burtuqiis descendants, either. It is a complete rubbish myth. Burtuqiiska never landed or lived in Koonfurta Soomaaliya. Soomaalida repelled against them the few times they tried to land in Baraawe and other environs close. Some Barawaanis, aka Reer Baraawe, Reer Cumaan wax u galaan faracooda, same like some who can be found in Sansibaar and Bambaasa nowadays. So familiarize these terms with yourself: Xamari = Reer Xamar, Banaadiri Barawaani = Reer Baraawe

Sayid*Somal;863117 wrote: MMA - what do you call these people - instead of describing them? Yaryarkeena Ciyaal Xamar ayaa isku naqaanay. Dadka ku dhashay kuna koray Xamarna Reer Muqdisho la dhihi jiray. Dadka Xamar deganaa Reer Xamar lama dhihi karo maadaama Reer Xamar reer gooni ah loogu yaqaano Koonfurta, gaar Xamar.

The first American atoore aan bartay ayuu ahaa anigoo aad u yar. Filimaantiisa kaabooygana aad u jeclaa. Magaciisana yar yarkeena waxaa ugu dhawaaqi jirnay Kalint Istuud back then. Markaa duqoowdid inaa iska aamustid roon runtii maadaama aadan isogeyn. Haddaa aamusi karina reerkaaga ku aamusiyaan in order to protect your reputation.

Duqa maxaa helay. Ar dad badan oo xishmeen jiray maxee xishmadooda ceshan doonaan.

Those who grew up in Xamar, living in Xamar in 1991 was a very bewildering and scary year. Very jungle-like, no laws respected, whether traditional, Islamic or not. Basically it was a year when Soomaali tradition and civilization completely broke down. Try reliving a few events of that year, 21 years ago this month. Shabeelle Press newspaper had a popular section called 'news briefs' (dhacdooyinka) then. This is some of what happened in Agoosto of that year. Agoosto 12, 1991: Children find a corpse near Jeneraal Daa'uud. The corpse, a balding male, is estimated to be 40 years old. A woman died and four others wounded after an exchange of fire at Ceelgarweyne market. It all started when a young man’s weapon accidentally went off killing the woman. According to an eyewitness, naciim, who saw it all, the slightest accident nowadays turns into a tribe X versus tribe Y war. Shamso Axmed Maxamed and Maxamed Axmed were robbed at gunpoint at Xamarweyne of 10,000 shillings and a pair of earrings. A witness recognized one of the robbers as Abshir Mire Cilmi. The police then went directly to the robbers’ home near ENEE and arrested him. As of this report Mr. Abshir was being held at Afar Irdood police station. Xasan Axmed Cabdulle (Xasan Ganey) was wounded after an accidental discharge of a gun at Shabeelle Press headquarters. “The butt of the gun hit the wall,” said Cali Cusmaan, a member of the security detail at Shabeelle Press who also stated that this was the first incident of its kind at Shabeelle Press. The bosses at Shabeelle Press were said to seething mad. _________________ Agoost 14, 1991: A boy and a girl (no names given) were wounded yesterday near ex-Fiyoore. This happened after three gunmen backed by a technical attacked the Qaad market there. The Qaad market security forces responded with heavy fire chasing out the attackers. A corpse, about 25-year-old male, was found near the livestock market at Wardhiigley. A man who refused to give his name said they were a group of six men and were arguing about money and finally decided to “leave this guy here.” The witness said he was awakened by the quarrel in the early hours of the morning and observed the whole thing through a crack in his window. Ruqiyo Aaden was robbed of gold earrings in Waaberi yesterday. This operation required five men armed with automatic weapons. Ruqiyo’s neighbors came to her aid and according to an eyewitness, Maxamed Cali, there followed a terrible gunfight. Maxamed Cali, the witness, found himself inadvertently on the wrong side with the Burcad and asked one of their members if Burcad was attacking them. The man told Maxamed Cali they were the Burcad and then made a strange request: please make sure this story appears on Shabeelle Press. Maxamed Saciid, a victim turned Good Samaritan, found himself in a checkpoint (isbaaro) that was just being set up for the day near Cinema Missione. The men searched him but nothing was found on his person and he was let go. However, another man who was foolishly counting money nearby was robbed. The Burcad operated on that corner until sunset and Maxamed, after positioning himself in a strategic corner near the cinema, warned the public approaching the checkpoint. ________________ Agoosto 15, 1991: Fire broke out when a young inexperienced gasoline vendor decided to smoke. “He was the only one hurt,” said Arwaax Nuux Cabdulle, an eyewitness. Other vendors nearby brought the fire under control. Four gunmen stuck up Cabdi Xuseen Maxamed (Dhuubaani) for 70,000 shillings and two loose cigarettes. “One came from behind and the other three from the front,” said Mr. Dhuubaani. “I gave them everything I had without any trouble,” he lamented. A bomb explosion near the meat market (Xamarweyne). A child was wounded and a man and a woman died. No one knows the cause or who was responsible. The house of Axmed Naaji Xasan a.k.a. Axmed Naaji Sacad was attacked last night at about 9:00 PM. One bag containing two Yemeni passports, two watches and a record player were taken. “We heard women screaming and when we got there the women were gone,” sail Cali Yare, a neighbor. Maxamed Cabdi Aadan, a moor'yaan expert interviewed for this article by Shabeelle Press, said the Burcad these days prefer to set up Check Point (Isbaaro) rather than go into peoples homes. When the security detail at Martini Hospital found out they were being transferred they shut the hospital down refusing to let the doctors, nurses and visitors in. The ICRC office inside the hospital for reuniting separated family members (baafin) was also shut down. _________________ Agoosto 17, 1991: Colonel Muriidi Cali Lunge and Xaaji Cali Lunge were killed and two others wounded near intersection afarta jardiino (Yaaqshiid) yesterday. Gunmen driving Toyota Corolla committed this act after following the victims from Sinai Market. The two victims are brothers; money and food in their vehicle was not taken. Cabuud Xaaji Maxamed was kidnapped near Shabeelle Hotel yesterday. He was taken to the building opposite the National Theatre (Teatro Nazionale). They told him not to say hello to anyone as he was being led into the building. Once there they took 8000 shillings and the shirt he was wearing. They did not send him bare-chested though, he was given a shirt off one of the thieves. Cabuud said he won’t be coming downtown area anymore. Radio Mogadishu lost its ability to broadcast its short wave programming. This after 10,000 liters of diesel designated for the generators powering the station were sold and the proceeds shared by the employees. Then the employees sent a memo to government officials accusing the security forces stationed there of stealing the diesel. The security forces then shut down the place. In an unrelated story a Land Rover belonging to Radio Mogadishu driven by Cusmaan Gaaljecel was taken at gunpoint near Casa Popolare. Shabeelle Press sees a great risk of “someone broadcasting a new government using that truck” Three gunmen who set up a roadblock under the Ceelgaab Bridge stripped a man, Cumar Warsame, of 500,000 shillings. The money, in the new smaller denomination, was neatly lined up and well hidden under the victim’s shirt. Maxamed Axmed Maxamed (Sinsinle) and Cabdiqaadir Cali Cabdulle (Cabuuy) were caught after they ran out of ammunition attacking the house of Xaashi Jimcaale Culusoow. Neighbors who came to Mr. Culusoow’s aid surrounded them. No word on what was done to the gunmen. Ten gunmen on a Land Cruiser tried to rob food aid from an SDM convoy. A gunfight ensued and one of the gunmen was killed. The gunmen lost their vehicle and SDM had a wounded man from its ranks. Xasan (Tibtob) was the witness and Aaden Maxamed Isaa'q was the wounded man from SDM. __________________ Agoosto 19, 1991: Saalax Shariif Xasan lost his macawis the night before last when he walked into a isbaaro. He was walking with his pregnant wife. "I told them I had no underwear and one of the men responded 'waa loo baahan yahay' (we need it)." He made do with his wife’s garbasaar. This happened near Garage Amiin (Kaaraan). Daa'uud Badarre died at his home in Waaberi last night. There was reports of Moor'yaan in the neighborhood and as has become the norm in these occasions Maxamed Cabdiqaadir, a relative of the proprietor, started firing into the air [the reason for firing into the air is to tell the Moor'yaan: This house has a gun; stay away.] As Maxamed was in the process of firing the weapon his go’ came off and as he tried to recover it he shot Mr. Badarre. The distraught young man ran from the house and was not seen since. Two men armed with only one gun attacked a young man for his gun. The young man [no name given] fought back and took their gun. Four gunmen were caught pushing a mini-bus infront of Xaawo Taako School. The proprietor Yacquub Siidoow Mayoow reported to police and produced his documentation. All four gunmen were arrested after a gunfight. A thief wielding a beebeeshe gun robbed Daahir Xaaji Cabdi of 30,000 shillings and a watch in Xamarweyne yesterday. The thief whose name is Cismaan Jibriil was arrested later on -- without resistance. About 15 people – men and women – died yesterday near KM 4. The ICRC was distributing rice, beans, and cooking oil when according to an eyewitness, Xuseen Yaroow Maxamed, moor'yaan gents showed up. The people in line already worried about the lateness of the hour became riotous when they saw the moor'yaan. SDM militia who was providing the security detail became nervous and a phenomena known as spray and pray ,weapons being fired in all directions and hoping for no colateral damage, ensued. Maxamed Macoow Cali was wounded traveling on Via Liberia near Makka Almakurama. The guy who fired the shot took off and eyewitnesses told Shabeelle Press it was an accidental discharge. Sahra Muriidi robbed of garbasaar and a bag near Baar Haidhaafin (Ansalooti). There were four of them and the bag contained about 20,000 shillings. She knows one of them very well. “He might be the ring-leader,” she said. A public service message: There are reports of a isbaaro near Cinema Missione.

One can see how beautiful even the windows looked then. Compare that to what is being built nowadays in Xamar: Ugly blue-coloured glass windows. And those are the best ones. Zero architectural merit, indeed.

Showqi, Amiin Caamir farshaxankiisa waxaa aad u jeclaaday 91 iyo 92. Waagaas waxaa lagu soo daabici jiray farshaxankiisa wargeys la dhihi jiray Shabeelle Press. Maadaama meesha la joogay ahayd Xamar oo jabhad maamuleysay, wuxuu aad u dacaayadeen jiray Siyaad Barre oo Kismaayo iyo meelahaas ku sugnaa, Moorgan iyo C/raxmaan Jaamac Barre (C/raxmaan Buluqbuluq ugu wici jiray). Caydiid iyo Cali Mahdi iskuma taaban jirin laakiin maryooleeyda soo gishay magaalada ayuu eber ka dhigi jiray. Nonetheless, I remember asking qofkii suuqa Bakaaraha u socdo in uu ii soo gado wargeyskaas. Here few samples of his from '91 iyo '92: Intuu dhexbartamaha jidka dhistay wali sii hadlaayaa. He didn't dare to caricature him while living in Xamar in 1991. Nor him.

Too much unnecessarily mentioning of clan names. Madax xanuun ka qaadayba.

They were qabqable dagaalooge ah then and they still are, albeit being tamed with zero militia and power. Those who supported the biggest warlord of them all then have no right to tell who can be a xildhibaano or not now. But labafoolnimada waa lagu yaqaan dadka qaarkood.

xiinfaniin;862740 wrote: Fadhi-ku-dirir rumors are that Sharif Hassan has his eye on a federal state of his community Sax. I think he went to Nayroobi to persuade Kenyaatigaas to back his planned maamul goboleed ku sheeg in Koonfurta Galbeed. He never had much support from his larger clan base, contrary to popular beliefs, save those who he used to pay well. Nonetheless, they supported his presidential aspirations in the name of their clan. Now, however, he is capitalizing their disillusioned state against Jawaari and wants to create this so-called maamul goboleed. Kenya is first step oo laga dhaadhacsiiyo this project of his. Sanaawi would have been the first to get a visit if he was alive, but to him Kenya is more urgent now since they are backing Asaaniya. If he succeeds this, Jawaari is finished. I hope he doesn't.

Hooyo's favourite mode of communication. Only until she acquired her first mobile phone in 2001 did she slowed down. Oh, how she was so professional when it came recording cajaladaha. She always started 'waxaan idinku salaamayaa/kugu salaamayaa boqol toban iyo afarta Quraanka cadadiisa...' Mid ay ii soo dirtay in 1996 ayaa wali haayaa.

To the confused lot: Residents of Xamar are not called Xamari. Xamari, aka Reer Xamar, aka Banaadiri, is a clan and ethnic group's name. Yes, they do primarily live in Xamar.

Apophis;862823 wrote: You would rather claim the place than pay the $40 visa fee? Weirder is that he would want us in the same token to pay the processing visa fee and have baasaboor if we land in Hargeysa because he is a Soomaali 'splitist' as Shiineeska are fond to say.

Calool kuus kuusanaa. I met Saransoor a few times in Nayroobi last year. He seemed a decent man.

Waa socon waayee aan rooro waaye sheekada. Damiin aan Soomaali qori karin ayaa ku marmarsiyoonaayo.

LoL, I had a similar yet different reaction to this qoraal, too: I am afraid these guys Axmed Jaamac and Liibaan Cigaal are on the list of Barbaarta hit men. Too many Western media reports ka muuqdaan. I hope they have reliable personal security protection.