This definitely clarifies things that have been going on in Somaliland and Somalia, these past days.

At the Crossroads of Failure Addis Tribune (Addis Ababa) COLUMN July 23, 2004 Posted to the web July 23, 2004 Ali Ibrahim The protracted and often acrimonious proceedings of the 14th Somali peace and reconciliation conference at Embagathi, Kenya, is finally winding down to its eventual fait accompli. Twenty months into the making, the stark reality facing Walaweynian Somalis is another failed attempt at peace- making - not any different than the thirteen previous conferences. The international community and the regional governments provided both the moral and material support to bring back some semblance of human civility to the chaos of Walaweynian Somalia. Unfortunately, the parties to the conflict do not have the ethical and moral integrity and/or the credibility to engage themselves in a genuine and sincere dialogue to settle their dispute at the negotiating table. The failure of all these never-ending conferences are basically the culture of the society. It is a culture that rejects any sense of responsibility for its behaviour. The irony is this: The architects who engineered the demise of the old Somalia are negotiating to resurrect a new nation from the ashes of the old one! The Aftermath of Arta Fiasco The undeclared agenda of the Arta peace conference of 2000 was based on a rather erroneous political gamble based on the premise that if the H***** , according to Salad Qassim's contention, are granted the position of life-time presidency, the rest of the Somali clans will immediately fall in line and the Somali conflict will be over within months. Of course, that was a very naive and short-sighted miscalculation by the new elder statesman of the region. Four years later, Salad Qassim has proven himself to be a character of no credibility with his own H***** clan. The rest of Southern community withheld their support and collaboration with Mr. Qassim's made in Djibouti transitional national government. That is why Mr. Qassim's administration is confined to mere 1km by 1.235km area in north Mogadiscio. This boils down to the fact that the man lacks the basic credentials to run a modern nation state. The Prelude to the 15th Peace Convention To shore up the sagging fortunes of the Embagathi convention, Mr. Abdulrezak Haji Hussein and his sidekick offered the former of the Somali National Movement the presidency of upcoming Somali state. The objective was to create suspicion, uncertainty, and chaos in Somaliland.Once that attempt has backfired, the former Prime Minister has set his real intentions in motion. In a recent article, Mr. Abdulrezak wrote, " The D***** and the H***** clans should relinquish the position of the presidency and the office of the prime minister in favour of other clans." On the surface, it is a categorical admission that the root cause of the current quagmire in Southern Somalia, as well as the ultimate failure of the Somali state, has been mainly due to the irreconcilable and always antagonistic political ambitions of the said two communities. A coronation of sorts, shall we say, for some at the twilight of his political dreams and a point for political pundits and historians to ponder for years to come. However, the flipside of the ex-prime minister's statement is a carefully well-timed prelude to a much sinister and a farreaching hidden agenda. The corollary to Abdulrezak's article is this: Tthe rivalary between our two communities has failed to accomodate each other; let us entice the I*** group to act as bulwark between us; let us explore this option for the last time." This article has definitely refocused the disarrayed and hapless Somali pseudo-politicians. It surely has revitalised the moribund quasi-intellectual communities with an unprecedented sense of duty and responsibility to the suffering of the Somali people. This new-found dose of latent energy is reawakening the hypernating Greater Somalia dream. The hordes of people heading for Mogadiscio these days is a direct response to this bold new intitiative from the former prime minister. The message has really struck a raw nerve. To evade and avoid the suspicion and wrath of the regional neighpors, this new masquerade is camouflaged and billed as the beginning of a new construtive dialogue initially between Somaliland and Somalia. This process will be eventually expanded delegates from the Northern Frontier District of Kenya, the Eastern Hararghe region of Ethiopia, and the Republic of Djibouti. The Arab League ( via the Egyptian government) is the financial backer of this new radical initiative. This idea has been circulating around for a while. Now, it is gaining urgency as well as momentum simultaneously and it is intended to break the cycle of missed opportunities. The aim and the sole objective of this new dispensation is to short-circuit Somaliland's rendezvous with its manifest destiny: the destiny to chart our own course regardless of the wishfull dreams of our southern neighbours.Walaweynian Somalis will go to any extreme to blame their incompetence on the absence of Somaliland from the negotiating table. To our walaweynian neighbours to the south i shall say: the drumbeat of the sanctity of somali unity is resonating periodically across the landscape. for those of you who are still looking for the holy grail or king solomon's ring,the search is gradually winding down to empty handedness on both counts. this is what you have to reckon with: Why did the Somali state fail in the first place? Who is responsible for this failure? Siad Barre alone is not the culprit. Those who promoted him to become the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and later encouraged him to overthrow the civilian government, are equally responsible as well.

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Casey, can you pass me the link? I feel more comfortable reading it from the source. Articles&Opinions www.Awdalnews.com

or a Somalilander who has seen the light!

If you trust George Bush and Kofi Anan, We trust our Suldaans and Graads After reading the article titled “If Somalia is Divisible Somaliland is Divisible” published by Addis Tribune on May 7, 2004 and posted on Awdalnews Network, I am compelled to challenge the author’s claims. Much of the content in that article is based on the well known phenomenon called “Somaliland phobia”. Moreover, the author’s claim of *********** and Warsangeli tribes becoming like the Kurdish minority of Somaliland is laughable, and I should say that is the joke of the day. It would be worthwhile explaining why the above claims are based on an utter nonsense, but explanation would be redundant since the reader already knows the facts. If the author can distinguish *********** or Warsangeli tribes from ***** tribes, then he deserves standing obviation because such observations would be equivalent to the discoveries of an anthropologist. Don’t forget, the Kurdish people have never been in control of their land and its wealth. In addition, the Kurdish and the Iraqi Arabs are two different ethnics, and not to mention the long ethnic cleansing that the Kurdish people have experienced in Iraq. In contrast, *********** and Warsangeli have never been mistreated, displaced or oppressed by Somaliland government. In fact, some of the top leaders in Somaliland are members of the above tribes. Historically, apart from the tribal wars that used to erupt between the northern tribes of former Somalia, in general people in that region have demonstrated their willingness to get along with each other, and respect the Somali culture. It is needless to say that Somaliland people are homogeneous. What is more, the code of trust between the tribes, and their ability to settle their difference without foreign intervention is the backbone of much enjoyed peace and stability in that region. Of course, there is a political disagreement about the future of our country but that is beside the point and it should not be an excuse for anybody to make claims that he can not back up. The author’s attempt to divide Somaliland people by revisiting the darkest history of the nation and at the same time expressing sympathy for the victims of the civil war is a classic example of a wolf hiding in sheep’s clothing. Thanks but no thanks. Let me quote the author “There are reports of people from the Dhulbahnte and Warsangeli tribes fleeing their homes in Hargeisa and other urban areas because of fear” I challenge you to produce your evidence and prove your assertion. The deeply implanted fear of ***** dominations or the accusations of ***** tribes intimidating other tribes is absolutely unfound. According to the United Nations latest report, Somaliland has shown economic progress, democracy, and respect for human rights. The author’s claim is not supported by the United Nations agencies that operate in Somaliland, so how on earth did he obtain information regarding the situation in Somaliland while he is living in the heart of Canada? In deed, very recently a number of trucks that belong to ***** tribes were burned in Ethiopia by ONFL members. Also, another truck with six passengers was held for days in Buuhoodle village settled by *********** tribe. Fortunately, through dialogue and negations, the truck and its passengers were released. Thanks to the villagers and the tribal leaders. Ironically, the ***** tribes that many feared and hated for no apparent reason are struggling to understand the lack of justifications for these attacks. It is unfair to blame ******* tribe for the genocide and unjust of Siad Bare’s regime, for the same token ***** and Somaliland are two different things. It defies common sense and logic to attack somebody’s property because the decision made by president Dahir Riyale Kahin. Again the author says “I would like to call upon Mr. Kofi Anan, the General Secretary of the United Nations, and Mr. George W. Bush, the President of the United States, to send immediately to the region whatever it takes to prevent genocide worse than the one in Rwanda.” First of all, George Bush has no solution for his own illegal invasion of Iraq let alone preventing an impending genocide in Somaliland. Besides, do you think the well enjoyed peace and stability in Somaliland is the effort of an American president or Mr. Kofi Anan’s intervention? Of course not, you trust George Bush, and Kofi Anan to solve non existing issue in Somaliland, but we trust our Suldaans and Garaads because the model peace that they have established in Somaliland is the one that members of the U.S congress are asking to be applied to Iraq and to southern Somalia. Dalmar Ottawa, Canada dalmar_k@yahoo.com

Is that an ADSL connection? No it's VDSL connection. Im on my way to upgrade to 100 Mbs and it will not cost me more than 45$. Casey I suppose you have broadband true phone jack, 24mbs is the max you can get. With fiber Optic Broadband you can get much more than 100 mbs. Yes dc++(x direct connect) is faster but still kazaa have more files. Yes Cabdulmalik I have broadband through phone jack, but 24mbs is not the maximum speed. Visit my broadband company websites and see for yourself. (www.bostream.se) I am not sure which broadband company you use, but I think its “Bredbandsbolaget” Well if it is the one, then the monthly fee for 100mbs would be like $65 US dollars. If you have broadband through phone jack, you wouldn’t be able to upgrade to 100mbs, but I’ am guessing that you have broadband through broadband jack, If that’s so, then you are able to upgrade. And you your monthly fee would be much higher then $45. P.S Kazaa doesn’t have the latest releases, plus the chance of getting a viruses, Trojans or worms is very high. And the download rate is much slower.

How many of you have 10mbs connection? it cost me only 40$ month. Its very good if you want to download movis from kazaa I have 26mbs, it cost me 400 swedish kronners a month, about $50 US dollers. Believe me it only takes about 25 min to download a whole DVD movie. Kazaa is nothing compared to DC (Direct Connect) or BitTorrent. If you want to download DVD,DVDRips,Music Albums,Games Apps etc use the Filesharing programs above.

Casey if you are in doubt who the people of SOOL want then go to Las Ano the capital. If you have no doubt on which side the Sool inhabitants’ support, then you should really take a trip to Sool, and not just the capital Las Anod. I don’t think you should base your facts just on the capital. Please visit the whole region, before you make your baseless facts.

Casey I dont speak for Mr Garaad I suggest you phone him and ask him yourself If you haven’t got any idea on were he stand's on this issue, then please keep your cheap sarcasm to your self. I am in no doubt that the minority are those who support Somaliland None of us here can identify which of the camps is the majority one, so let’s not jump to any conclusions here. Has it been any clash between these two camps before or is this the first time?

Shaheed Rantisi The discussion is not about the Recognition, it's about Mr.Garaad response to Puntland claims of Sool people supporting that administration were true. Obviously there are two side here, one Pro-Puntland and the other Pro-Somaliland. Can someone tell me more about each side? ( Please ) And can any one tell me where Mr.Garaad stands on thís issue? k?thx Peace

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