Bin Laden is in China This confirms Gordon Thomas, a journalist with contacts in the most important intelligence services. The terrorist had reached an agreement with China, which now negotiates its surrender with Bush. It is his greatest electoral trick. China Set To Negotiate Bin Laden Handover With Bush Translated from El Mundo Gordon Thomas 10/13/04 "El Mundo" -- During the home stretch of the Northamerican elections, Osama bin Laden could prove to be the ace in the sleeve of president Bush. As we speak, Washington is negotiating a highly secretive agreement with Beijing, the Chinese capital, for the eviction of bin Laden from his sanctuary in the turbulent Muslim provinces of China, in the Northwest of the Great Wall nation. More than five million people, many of them fanatic followers of Osama, live in that region, which can be called one of the most volatile regions of Earth. Thousands of them work for the mafias who specialize in the trafficking of humans and drugs to the West. Last summer, Bin Laden sealed an agreement with the authorities in Beijing, in which he was granted asylum in return for his guarantees that the guerilla war of the Muslim Chinese against the Chinese nation would end. Over the years, tens of thousands of troops of the Popular Liberation Armee had been sent to the region with the intent to squash the insurgents. Since the arrival of the Saudi Osama Bin Laden, the region has been relatively quiet, and the Muslims who live there are allowed to continue their trafficking of humans and drugs. However, Bin Laden could now see himself trapped in his refuge, if an extraordinary agreement between Beijing and Washington would come to pass, in which China would hand over to the United States the most wanted terrorist in the world. The capture of Bin Laden would virtually guarantee the reelection of George Bush Jr., as it would confirm to the millions of undecided voters of the U.S. that the war against terrorism was judstified after Bin Laden had authorized the attacks of 9/11 against New York and Washington. "A new administration Bush would present China as its great new ally in the war against terrorism. China would enjoy in Washington the status of a most favored nation with all of its facets. Contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars would be approved by fast track. The history of human rights violations in China would be ignored," confirmed last week a high-level representative of the Pentagon. He added that only a small number of "members of very high rank" in the Bush administration knew about the plan to "seize Bin Laden in exchange for a special relationship with China." With almost certainty, among them would be the vice-president, Dick Cheney, and the defense secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. Agreeing to speak under anonymity, the functionary offered details of the plan to capture Osama Bin Laden as a means to keep Bush in the White House. He explained that this is not the first time that an American administration has resorted to similar maneuvers during an electoral campaign. Towards the end of the presidency of Jimmy Carter, a secret deal was signed between the then future president of the U.S., Ronald Reagan, and Iran, in which the American diplomats, who had been kidnapped in Teheran, the Capital of Iran, would be freed the very day that Ronald Reagan would be inaugurated to the White House. According to Ari Ben-Menashe, the former national security advisor of the Israeli government of Yitzhak Shamir, " they paid an enormous sum of money to the Ayatollas of Iran." Ben-Menashe affirms that this deal formed a pivotal piece in the negotiations that later became known as Reagan's October surprise. Theresa on the campaign trail Theresa, the wife of the senator and democratic candidate, John Kerry, gave to understand that another October surprise could be imminent. Two weeks ago, she surprised the political advisors of her husband by declaring in public: "I wouldn't be surprised if, prior to the elections, president Bush were to capture Osama." Since then, Mrs. Kerry rejected to further comment on her explosive declaration. However, there are rumors in the intelligence community that both she and her husband had been advised that any further comments concerning an agreement that would include the capture of Bin Laden could comprimise the national security of the U.S. Furthermore, also the Washington analyst, Al Santoli, the national security advisor and Californian Congressman, Dana Rohrabacher, and the editor of the respected bulletin China Monitor, affirmed that "an October surprise wouldn't surprise me in the least." In his first confirmed sighting in many months, the refuge of Bin Laden has been pinpointed by an NSA satellite, one of many that the supersecret U.S. agency utilizes in their search for him. His hideout is located near a lake at the border between China and Pakistan. At the other side of the Zaskar mountains, the white summits that majestically look out over Bin Laden's sanctuary, a detachment of special forces of the Pakistani and U.S. armies are awaiting orders to capture Bin Laden, and move him by plane to Pakistan. Escorted by 50 guerillas During the last six months, Bin Laden has been sighted several times in the mountains and open ranges of the Northwest. American intelligence agents in the region are of the opinion that the Saudi millionaire, accompanied by an escort of 50 guerilla mujaheddin, moved East towards Cachemira, and from there crossed into China. The agents furthermore believe that, previously, Bin Laden held various meetings with high officials of Beijing. He convinced them that he would be capable of obtaining peace in their Muslim provinces. "We know about these meetings," confirmed Mansur Ahmed, police chief of Bandipoor, North of Cachemira. "However, they took place on Chinese territory." Bin Laden is accompanied by Ayan al-Zawahiri, his primary advisor and personal physician (Bin Laden suffers from a serious renal ailment). Al-Zawahiri is a surgeon, educated in Cairo, accused of terrosrism in Egypt, and condemned to death for rebellion. After Bin Laden, he is the second most wanted terrorist world-wide. White House sources reject to comment on this issue publicly. "If the negotiations should fail, this would not be the most suitable moment for the president to be seen directly involved in these negotiations," affirmed one source. It is believed that the possibility for such a deal emerged early this year, after Donald Rumsfeld had met with a delegation of the Chinese government during a visit to the far East. Later, George Tenet, then director of the CIA, requested a viability study for an operation to capture Bin Laden. Tenet was informed that the only possibility would be if they could count on the cooperation of the Chinese. "To what extent that collaboration will occur in the few weeks remaining until the elections, will depend to a good extent on the confidence that Bush can inspire in the Chinese that he will be able to live up to his promises," confirmed the functionary of the Pentagon. posted Thursday, 14 October 2004

I heard that he was 77

Originally posted by NASSIR: may be Hargeisa for the time being. Yeah sure!

This website is created and registered toâ€Somaliland Net†“Somaliland Net†made this site for theâ€Hargeisa City Government†Hargeisa City doesn’t spend any city funds on this website nor does any city official run it. It’s solely run by “Somaliland Net†to help the Government and all foreign travellers to Hargeisa City by providing them with information such as “laws, security, transportation, hotels and restaurants etc.

Somaliland Minister denies visiting Nairobi talks Awdal News Network / afrol News, 1 October - Somaliland's Finance Minister Hussein Ali Dualeh today denied a report carried by the UAE Arabic daily 'Al Khaleej', saying that he recently visited Nairobi and held talks with Somali delegates preparing Somalia's new government there. Officials fron the self-declared Somaliland republic have turned down invitations to participate in the Nairobi talks, calling the "internal affairs" of Somalia. In a telephone call to 'Awdalnews Network', Somaliland Minister Dualeh said that he was busy preparing the national budget over the last 20 days and had hardly any time to do anything else let alone go on a foreign trip. Describing the report as "wishful thinking" disseminated by the "enemies of Somaliland," he said that he neither had visited Nairobi in the recent past nor had the intention to visit it while the Somali peace talks were in session there. When asked why the press published such a baseless report, Mr Dualeh said "leaders of the Somali factions fear me so much because I worked in Nairobi as Somaliland's Representative for some time and I have many friends in the Kenyan and East African diplomatic communities." Minister Dualeh, however, said that he was flabbergasted why a reputable paper like 'Al Khaleej' would publish such baseless and unfounded report, "they should have been a little more careful and little more professional" the Somalilander Minister added. In its Friday edition (1 October), 'Al Khaleej' reported that Somaliland Finance Minister had made a surprise visit to Nairobi ahead of the Somali presidential elections on 10 October and urged deputies hailing from Somaliland to form a unified front and establish alliances in order to claim the Prime Minister's post and not the Presidency. Meanwhile, the spokesman of President Dahir Riyale Kahin of Somaliland, Abdi Idris Dualeh, earlier today issued a statement in which he denied the Finance Minister's visit to Nairobi. He described the report as "baseless and totally unfounded" innuendoes spread by "Somaliland's enemies". By Awdalnews Network Staff Reporter © Awdal News Network / afrol News

http://www.somalilandtimes.net/2003/134/13402.shtml

The funny thing about the joke was in fact that it wasn’t funny at all.

Unforeseen Dangers At the Somali Peace Talks Unforeseen Dangers At the Somali Peace Talks Abdikadir Mohammed Nairobi The Somali peace talks at Mbagathi are in their final stage and they will result, it is hoped, in the formation of a government that will bring the elusive peace and justice to the people of Somalia. However, the talks, in the present form, have serious flaws, one of them being the inclusion of a delegation of people purportedly representing the people of the Republic of Somaliland. This delegation is composed of people who have no standing in Somaliland and some are literally fugitives in their own country. This fact is known to most observers in the peace talks and to both the Inter Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) Steering committee and the IGAD council of ministers. The selection of some of these people to the transitional Somali parliament leaves most observers with more questions than answers. The main question that begs to be answered is; why did the IGAD steering committee and the council of ministers allow the Somali peace talk delegates to include people who claim to represent the people of Somaliland while it is very clear to everyone that they do not? Peace talks that are based on fraud and lies are expected to produce not peace but another round of war and the resultant destruction. The way forward for the peace talks facilitators would have been first to secure peace for the people of Somalia. This would entail holding peace talks between the clans of Somalia and when peace is achieved and an all inclusive government established, then and only then can talks be arranged between the governments of Somaliland and Somalia. This is the only way a just and agreeable peace may be possible. This position taken by the government and the people is greatly undermined by the inclusion into the peace talks of the delegates purporting to represent the people of Somaliland. A brief overview of the history of Somaliland would suffice in helping one understand the position taken by people of Somaliland on the peace talks in Nairobi. The Republic of Somaliland is the former British protectorate and it borders Djibouti to the North West, Ethiopia to west and south and the Republic of Somalia to the east. It has a population of about 3.5 million people. This country got its independence from Britain on 26 June 1961. It was recognised by 34 countries right after independence. In the spirit of pan Somalism, the independent Republic of Somaliland agreed to form a union with the then newly independent Italian Somaliland to form The Somali Republic State. The rest is history. On May 18, 1991 the people of Somaliland in a national conference held in Burao decided to dissolve the union between Somaliland and Somalia. Somaliland then reverted to the state of fully sovereign and independent Republic. Its president is Dahir Riyale. What happened in Burao in the view of the people of Somaliland does not amount to secession but a dissolution of a union between the two formerly independent countries. The Republic of Somaliland had existed as a recognized independent country before Republic of Somalia got its independence. The assertion that Somaliland is seceding from Somalia is as unfounded and baseless as is to assert that Gambia seceded from Senegal when the sene-gambia union was dissolved. There are many instances in recent history of countries uniting and going their separate ways when it becomes clear that the union they have formed is not in the interest of their people and their country. Egypt and Syria are good examples of this. The case of Somaliland and Somalia is not different. The existence of Republic of Somaliland does not contravene the African Union charter particularly the inviolability of colonial borders as Somaliland occupies the territory of the former British protectorate. It has not taken nor claimed an inch from the territory of the Republic of Somalia nor of the neighboring countries. The people of Somaliland held a referendum in the year 2001 and about 98% of the voters voted for the independence for Somaliland. In 2003, the people of Somaliland went to the polls again to elect the head of state in an election that was free and fair according to both local and international observers. Somaliland has had peace for most of the years Somalia had been lawless. The Republic of Somaliland exists both as a state and as a government; it has a President who is the head of state, a parliament, a standing army and a booming economy. Further, the country is a very safe place to work and live in. This can be noted from the fact that women freely sell gold and people run currency exchange in open markets without fear of being robbed or their wares looted. Therefore not recognizing it or overlooking it would not negate the fact of its existence. It might be more prudent for the regional governments to open communication channels and to follow the example of the South Africa government in establishing a liaison office. The recent invitation of Somaliland to a conference in Nanyuki for regional governments is a good first step towards that direction. The Mbagathi peace talks offer a historical opportunity to bring peace, stability and prosperity for the greater Horn of Africa countries. To achieve this, the IGAD facilitation committee must be honest, just and open minded and should heed the wishes and aspiration of the people of both Somaliland and Somalia. The policy of completely ignoring the wishes and aspiration of the people of Somaliland will result in more instability and war in both Somaliland and Somalia. That is not in the interest of the countries in IGAD. Relevant Links East Africa Peacekeeping and Conflict Resolution Kenya Somalia It is never too late to correct mistakes done in these peace talks. People purporting to represent people of Somaliland must be expelled from the peace talks and be allowed to live in the luxury of their self-imposed exile in Europe, Gulf Arab countries and America. If this is not done in time then this will no longer be peace talks. It will be war talks. The talks that fueled the next round of war. 2004-09-29 Source: The East African Standard

Hundreds missing after storms in Somaliland September 27 2004 at 05:56PM Hargeisa - Torrential rains in Somalia's breakaway enclave, Somaliland, have washed away hundreds of huts, with up to 350 nomadic families believed drowned or missing, a regional governor said. Governor Ali Abdi Hurre of Sanaag, the largest region in Somaliland, said 3 600 animals including sheep, camels and donkeys were thought to have drowned over several days of heavy rain on the Siradlei mountains in northern Somalia. "Shelter has been given to those affected in their own areas and a government delegation will visit the areas affected by the stormy rain to assess the situation," he told a news conference late on Sunday. Local businessmen said most of the roads linking the Siradlei mountains to coastal villages and towns were impassable because of flooding and fallen rocks. Sanaag, in the north of war-ravaged Somalia, has suffered three straight years of drought. Hurre said it was difficult to give a precise death toll since there was little news from the remote areas in the mountains where the storms were heaviest. Somaliland, which makes up the northwest of Somalia, declared independence from the rest of the Horn of Africa country in 1991, but is not internationally recognised.

Here is the video link for theâ€Throw The Jew Down The Well†song. Hilarious song

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Originally posted by Kenya: Somalialand what are u u want a country that is no country Somalia is one and Puntland is part of it but u are not You’re right we aren’t part of Somalia anymore.

Somalia's "peace process" in final round afrol News, 17 September - The "parliament of Somalia", which was founded by Somali warlords in Kenya last month after two years of negotiating, is soon to elect an all-Somali President and return to Mogadishu to take power. As mighty warlords keep on fighting in south Somalia and the question of Somaliland remains disputed, the new rulers may however face the same fate as the Transitional National Government that was formed in Djibouti in 2000. Next week, the 275 Somali parliamentarians still gathered outside the Kenyan capital are expected to elect a President; Somalia's first central leader since the 1991 fall of Dictator Mohammed Siad Barre. As soon as the presidential appointment is done with, the Kenyan hosts may finally open their hotels to paying guests after the two-year Somali peace conference. The new political leadership of Somalia is to return to Mogadishu. The presidential vote however will not be easy as there are some 60 Somali presidential candidates. Most of them have a trouble past as warlords, fraction leaders and human rights violators. The candidates include Hussein Farah Aideed, son of warlord Mohammed Farah Aideed, who leads a 15,000 strong militia controlling central and southern parts of Mogadishu. Mr Aideed holds great responsibility for the transitional government's failure to take control of the country. Another prominent candidate with a big chance of being elected is Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf, the current of leader of the autonomous Puntland region in north-east Somalia. Colonel Yusuf, a long-lasting foe of Mr Aideed, is accused of several political murders, fierce guerrilla warfare and of using large amount to buy parliamentary votes for him while Puntland residents are suffering from drought and hunger. Whoever is elected Somali President will have to trust in Mr Aideed, who is in military control of the parts of Mogadishu where the government is to reside. If Mr Aideed is elected President, his government rapidly may fall into the same trap as the transitional government formed in 2000; it only controlled the small part of Mogadishu where it was installed. Warfare in Somalia will not automatically end with a new government uniting the country's main warlords. More than 20 warlords are still operating private armies that are frequently involved in clashes with other warlords that take part in the peace process. In addition, several warlords did not take part in the 22 August inauguration of the new Somali parliament. The main warlord outside the Kenyan peace process is Mohammed Hersi, commonly known as General Morgan. This week, he launched a major offensive against southern Somalia's major port, Kismayo, the country's third largest city. Only today, General Morgan is reported to have given up the attack after the Jubba Valley Alliance - a regional armed group in control of Kismayo - had gained the upper hand. The upcoming Somali government will in any case face large pockets of warlord-held territories within Somalia. The fragile alliance of clan leaders and other armed groups now united in the Somali parliament further has no guarantee of sticking together for a long time. It is not probable that warlords will let government take military control over their areas. Finally, there remains the problem of the breakaway republic of Somaliland; a former British colony that unilaterally broke the 1960 union with former Italian Somalia after the 1991 fall of President Barre. Somaliland, which yet has to be recognised by any country, refused to participate in the Kenya talks as its does not consider itself party to the conflict. The peace talks' hosts thus appointed their own "representative" for what they call "north-west Somalia". The future Somali government, therefore, is to represent also Somaliland internationally, to the great frustration of Somalilanders. Somaliland in international forums now officially becomes an internal Somali issue. A military conflict between Mogadishu and Hargeisa cannot be ruled out if the new Somali rulers aim at subduing Somaliland. There is still a long way to peace in Somalia. By staff writer © afrol News

Originally posted by Suldaanka: H/A This must be your "Ciyaala xaafadka" area... but like someone from the North, we need some visual aids like a Map. Kasungo, Buaale, Xaliimo Modoobey...we are lost here.

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Look at this chap, checking out the girls in the audience.

Look at this chap, checking out the girls in the audience.

I don't think this is bullshit If you were fair you would wait before making such assumption. Please, don’t contradict yourself Mr. WD

Xarunta Puntlandpost,Boosaaso Please give us a Somaliland source.

I hope so. inshallah

SA Recognises Saharawi news24.com — --- — 15 September, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SA recognises Saharawi 15/09/2004 16:58 - (SA) Cape Town - South Africa has decided to officially recognise the Saharawi Arab Democratic Republic with immediate effect, said Foreign Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma on Wednesday. Briefing the media at parliament, she said South Africa and the people of western Sahara had a long history of solidarity, mutual assistance and co-operation in their struggle for freedom and dignity. In view of this South Africa and the Saharawi Republic had decided to strengthen and reinforce their "brotherly ties". Edited by Iaine Harper

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