I’m not claiming that most people in Borama support Muse or have wholeheartedly embraced the Somaliland project. However, it would be delusional to deny that there are segments in Borama who are strong supporters of Muse and would openly back him. Still, Somaliland appreciates the taxes you contribute galbeedi.

If Muse give's an amnesty to Somaliland mp's in Somalia two weeks to return or face permanent treason charges, it would likely force an immediate and abrupt exit of Somaliland MPs from bunker’s parliament. This ultimatum would be a significant escalation, clearly signaling Somaliland’s final break from Somalia. The forced withdrawal would destabilize bunker’s political structure and hasten international discussions about Somaliland’s recognition, pushing the issue to the forefront and making formal recognition more imminent.

The Bunker government might be intentionally ramping up tensions and putting up a fight to set the stage for international mediators or organizations to step in. This could lead to Somaliland being recognized in a way that looks like it’s influenced by outside forces instead of the bunker’s own failures. By holding out against Somaliland’s independence until the very end, the Bunker government could maintain its credibility both locally and internationally. If recognition does come through, they could spin it as something they had to go along with, rather than a choice they made willingly. Ultimately, Bunker is worried about the risk of fragmentation.

As long as the eastern region persists with SSC nonsense, it will remain a security zone. I'm no longer interested in appeasing these individuals. Their only option is armed resistance, provided they are ready to sustain it for decades.

I recognize that experiencing psychological setbacks can lead to a diminished ability to perceive reality accurately. However, the level of wishful thinking being expressed here is unprecedented. Since joining this forum in 2007, I've lost count of the number of times I've observed overt excitement about the potential downfall of Somaliland. Initially, as a new member, my views aligned with unionism, but the interactions and revelations over the years have exposed me to the true nature of such ideologies, for which I am grateful. Despite Somaliland's eventual recognition, it seems some will continue to indulge in fantasies about its failure. Those who are entrenched in this mindset appear to lead profoundly unhappy lives, and I struggle to imagine a more fitting repercussion for such defeatism than the current state they find themselves in. It has become a unique form of entertainment to visit this forum and read through the posts, witnessing this persistent state of melancholy.

Taiwan trains counter-terrorism troops for Middle Eastern country Taiwan's 42-year-old MPSSC has already trained one group of recruits while another on hold due to pandemic, local media claims 3454 By Sophia Yang, Taiwan News, Staff Writer 2020/05/09 13:55 MPSSC in 2017. (Wikimedia Commons photo) TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — A high-ranking military official has claimed that a Middle Eastern country has inked a training agreement with Taiwan, according to a Liberty Times Net (LTN) exclusive story. Under the deal, Taiwan's Military Police Special Services Company (MPSSC), under the Military Police Command, is responsible for coaching the Middle Eastern country's counter-terrorism force. They will travel to Taiwan in groups for training that will enhance their knowledge, skill, and responsiveness in the war against terror. Similar to the United States Army Special Forces (Green Berets), the MPSSC was established in 1978 and has earned international acclaim for counter-terrorism operations and protecting high-ranking officials and ambassadors in Taiwan. It is also known for anti-hijacking and anti-sabotage operations. Taiwan is one of the few Asian countries capable of training special task forces and providing such services to other countries, according to LTN. It reported the first batch of trainees has concluded training and returned to home, while a second batch of recruits is on hold due to the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3930970?fbclid=IwAR0emABRyt6O1Tu0X9gkWMx7vMox2MgKtLVwCAOv3zIB_heUQwd_e2IfBps Rumours has it that it's Somaliland.

I don't even why you all are asking why is Somaliland or Somalia coming to these talks now as if this is a choice when American comes calling. I'm more interested in the motives of these countries that have their hands in anything called Somali. Somaliland is an obstacle to the legally looting of Somalia, these so-called one man one vote won't be legitimate if one third of country don't participate. So what do you do? Well the fool in Villa Somalia will sign some sort of legal framework which will allow Somaliland not a downright recognition but a legal wiggle room which will make Somaliland a quasi state. When Somalia has its election whether its forced or voluntary these actors will legitimize it and the looting can begin. (purely speculative) But when IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva congratulates Somali people on historic milestone doesn't send shills through your spine than you really don't understand the kind trouble Somalia really is in. So lets list these milestones this psychopath is talking about. Foreign trained SNA and add to it AMISOM, EDF, KDF secret american bases, private military contractors, al shabaab, warlords, parasitic status quote business enterprises, corrupt politician you named it Somalia has it. The saving grace of Somalia if you want called it that these past 30 years has been Somalia's non creditworthiness and these fools are about upend it. So who in their right mind would loan money to a country in this state? Well lets just say people who want to legally take Somalia's resources through debt instruments which is collateralized when the creditor has rights over an asset or revenue stream that would allow it, if the borrower defaults on its payment obligations, to rely on the asset or revenue stream to secure repayment of the debt. Brothers and sisters these actors haven't spent billions of dollars and 5 billion in debt relief on bunch Africans who can't get a long for nothing. I haven't posted in years on this forum but this morning I couldn't let it be so forgiven me for the incoherent post.

I agree that a military base or an alliance whether it be a political one or military would hurt us in the long term, so that is out question right now. Siding with Russia at this moment would’ve be devastating for our economy, especially when our trade is run out UAE. If there ever was such a deal from the Russian then that should be used to pressure the gulf monarchs into a political legitimacy for Somaliland i.e. Recognition. In foreign policy this should priority, to decouple us for this economic strangle hold they’ve on us. Domestically we should strengthen our state institutions and rule of law so that personal, family or clan interest aren’t above the law. This vital if we ever to hope to have a future as a country and be in a position to help and reunite with our brethren in the south.

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Here are some pictures from when I was in Hargeisa, Berbera, Zeila bari, Dar es Salaam, Gabeily December 07

Dear nomads, I’ve an urgent request for those whom reside in Europe and North America. It has come to my attention that many Somalis living in those areas mentioned above aren’t blood donors in theirs respectively countries. As consequence Somalis who needs a blood transfusion in some cases need blood from specific donors whom match their antigen are left with noting when they need it. As this was the case were I work i.e. “blood bank” there was a pregnant Somali women who was about to give birth and needed blood. It showed that she hade a rare blood type, which is common in Horn of Africa. To make long story short, they found a Somali guy who worked at the same hospital that matched her blood type. Both of them were missing the big S- and the little s- antigen so they were perfect match. It seem that a lot of Somalis are missing these antigen. So to those whom aren’t a blood donor go to your blood bank and donate. Who knows when you might need it, or someone close to you?

Ethiopian troops patrol the street of Mogadishu, Somalia Nairobi, July 03, 2007 – A senior official of a Western non-governmental organization has accused Somalia's interim government leaders of deliberately harassing and intimidating humanitarian organizations that refuse to work under government control. As VOA correspondent Alisha Ryu reports from our East African bureau in Nairobi, the allegations are some of the most serious charges of corruption against Somalia's Western-backed leadership since it took power in Mogadishu six months ago. The director of operations for a non-governmental organization called SAACID-Australia, Tony Burns, tells VOA he is angry and dismayed by what he says is a blatant attempt by the leaders of Somalia's Transitional Federal Government to shut down his group's sister organization, SAACID-Somalia. "We are the largest NGO in central southern Somalia, and we have received a lot of contracts from the U.N. over the previous years," said Burns. "And individuals within the TFG want these contracts for themselves. The TFG does not exist as a government. This is a series of individuals, trying to make as much money as they can." Two weeks ago, Somali and Ethiopian troops raided the compound of SAACID-Somalia in Mogadishu, and conducted what the government called a security operation. Several SAACID staff members, including the group's country director, were arrested and charged with membership in the al-Qaida terror network. The soldiers smashed doors and windows, destroyed office equipment, and confiscated several guns the staff says are needed to provide security for the compound. The government freed the Somali staff members three days later, after Mogadishu civil society members, international NGOs, Western governments, and U.N. agencies called for their unconditional release. Burns says he believes the raid was carried out partly in retaliation for his group's refusal to give government leaders control of the funds SAACID-Somalia had received to carry out various civic projects. The NGO is involved, among other things, in health and sanitation work, specifically helping to clean up the capital. Burns says local NGOs like SAACID-Somalia that do not cooperate with the leaders are being labeled as terror groups and isolated from the international community. "The mayor of Mogadishu came into a U.N. meeting one day, when the U.N. was holding a meeting with civil society," continued Burns. "He told the U.N. that they were not to discuss or talk to or partner any Somali NGO because they were all al-Qaida terrorists, quote unquote. For us, it means we can no longer partner the U.N. because the U.N. money is all going to the government and they are not willing to partner local NGOs separate from the TFG. So, legitimate NGOs that have a track record are out of it. There is no funding." Education Minister Ismail Hurreh denies the interim government is trying to control the activities of aid agencies or to extort money from them. "The government recognizes the legitimate work of the non-governmental organizations in many, many fields," said Hurreh. "Provided that they are not doing anything unlawful, provided they are not putting security into question, definitely they are free to go about doing their business as they deem fit." Since the raid on June 18, Burns says Ethiopian troops, who protect the interim government, have set up a tent in front of the SAACID-Somalia compound and are continuing to harass anyone entering or leaving the compound. Source: VOA

I'll wish all of you in Somaliland and outside a safe and happy Independence Day.

National Election Commission Chairman, Mr Ahmed Haji Ali (Adami) “The National Election Commission Has Been Ousted In A Bloodless Coup”NEC Chairman Hargeysa, Somaliland, March 3, 2007 (SL Times) – The government of President Dahir Rayale Kahin broke into the National Election commission (NEC) headquarters yesterday morning and took control of all the equipment, documents in the office complex. In a radio BBC Somali service interview broadcasted last night, the National Election Commission Chairman, Mr Ahmed Haji Ali (Adami) said that the NEC has been deposed in a coup d'état staged by the government. Mr Adami added, “the government broke into the NEC headquarters and forcefully took possession of its offices and properties in a bid to force the current NEC committee out of office. Yesterday [last Thursday], we (NEC) received a letter from the president informing us to immediately transfer the powers of the NEC committee to the General Auditor, the Chief Accountant of the ministry of finance and the Chairman of the government agency of state employees.” Mr Adami explained, “the president in his letter said if we don’t comply with his instructions, he will have no alternative but to enforce the law against us. We were shocked by the language used by the president.” “On Friday morning I was made aware that the NEC headquarters was overtaken by the government and went to investigate. On arriving, I immediately saw that the entire complex and offices of the NEC was overridden by civil servants of the government. It was then that I was informed that I was no longer the chairman of the NEC and was not in charge of the organization.” An irate Adami characterized the government’s action as unconstitutional and in contravention of democratic principles that Somalilanders have been nurturing in their country. “How can civil servants working for the government take charge of the NEC? The NEC is an institution comprised of many stakeholders, and the government is only one of them,” the chairman of NEC asked. The BBC interviewer pointed out, “Obviously, as the chair of NEC, you have every right to be angry about what has taken place. Nevertheless, you are aware of the recent quarrel born out of the lower house of parliament’s rejection of the new 6 member committee of the new commission which the president submitted for endorsement by parliament, and the president in turn refused to approve parliament’s extension of the old commission’s term which expired last January 07 and was renewed for another two years by parliament. Is it not the case that you or the old NEC simply want to hang on to the NEC?” The chairman of NEC replied, “No we don’t want to hang on to the NEC. On the contrary, we simply want to adhere to the laws and regulations which require us to surrender the NEC to a new body of elected committee members, representing all stakeholders.” Adami emphatically denied that they are unwilling to cooperate With the president. He said that they saw the president and talked for considerable time over this issue. The chair of NEC asserted that they made it clear to the president the only way that they can transfer the NEC responsibilities is when another new 7 member committee (2 members from the opposition, 2 from the upper house of parliament and 3 members appointed by the president), is endorsed by the lower house of parliament. Mr Adami stressed that only 6 new members were submitted by the president to parliament instead of the prescribed 7 member committee team of the new commission, and for this reason the house of parliament refused to endorse the new commission. “Kulmiye party,” Adami said, “refused to submit their nominee to parliament, protesting that the president had interfered with the upper house’s nominees, and for this reason the new commission was one member short of the legal and binding 7 member team of the commission.” The NEC chair went on to elaborate that he was not angry but bitter at the way the president is damaging the democratic culture which we have worked so hard to attain over the years. He said, “I am bitter at the blatant illegal action taken by the government. We have earned a good name and have been praised in all corners of the world for our democratic institutions and culture; we have become the envy of the world. It’s the loss of these achievements, and much more, that makes me bitter.” The NEC chairman concluded: “I am truly nervous and worried about what is going to happen next in this nation. This is what worries me the most. The government today is the single stakeholder in the NEC, and this is against all democratic norms and principles. The NEC is an institution that should be made up of the political parties, the upper house of parliament, the government and the lower house of parliament. It is an independent institution at par with the executive branches of the government and parliament. How can it then be possible for the government to take over the NEC as it has done.” Meanwhile, late Friday night, the NEC committee members issued a 2 page press statement which stated: • On 01/03/07 the NEC received a letter addressed to the commission from the president Dahir Rayale Kahin • The president in his letter issued a threat to the NEC if it refuses to surrender the commission’s mandate • The president’s threat has harmed the conciliatory stance taken by the NEC and the president in last week’s meeting • The NEC is not a branch of the executive government. It is an independent organization and cannot be partial to any body or group as stated in the Election Bill of Somaliland Act 11 clause 6 (Law L20/2001) • The NEC cannot appropriate or surrender to any body or party. It is an entity which suffixes as Moral Authority The NEC is duty bound to adhere: 1. The continuity of the current commission’s 2 year term endorsed by parliament in extension of its previous expired 5 year term which terminated on 21/01/07. 2. The NEC is bound to the points raised in the letter addressed to the president on 22/02/07 (KDQ/21-00/359/07 3. We the NEC committee members hereby vow not to surrender the NEC mandate until there is a newly elected 7 member commission committee which has been processed accordingly by the constitution and Election Law and all the party stakeholders. 4. We the NEC are prepared to do everything in our power, even if this means sacrificing our lives to safeguard the democratic rights of the institutions of the country and for all those reasons fought for in the struggle against dictatorial, tyrant and undemocratic regimes. We the NEC call on the Lower and Upper houses of parliament, the political parties, the media, the civil societies and the public of Somaliland to defend their democratic institutions and establishments which have come under attack and threat by those who have conspired to derail the democratic path the nation has embarked upon in the 2001 referendum, which was the cornerstone of our democracy. The Somaliland Times can confirm that the NEC’s concerns about the government’s increasing dictatorial tendencies are shared by a lot of Somalilanders. Our sister newspaper, Haatuf has been victimized by Rayale’s governments which thinks that it is above the law and can do and say whatever it pleases. Just to give one example, Somaliland’s government-controlled TV announced that the NEC has officially transferred its mandate, when in fact no such transfer took place. Source: Somaliland Times

Ok I’m little bit mixed up over the palestinian and israelis, ok which one is throwing the rocks?

I rarely quote anything, but when an opportunity comes along I quote this piece of comedy excessively.

Their is already thousands of brothers who are prepared for ethopian and the the islamic union are mobilizing more people. Ethopians will get a big lessen if they come beyond baydhabo. Correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t baydhabo part of Somalia? Or is that you just forgot to put on your Somaliweyn cloak when you wrote it? Typical walaweyn mentality. bystander today, your brother by tomorrow.

Happy May 18th to all of you Landers and to the lament groupie get a life.