Abraar, assalamu aleykum. 1st of all the reason I chose to respond to your post, although I don't usually participate here, is because you made your point honestly and I want to reply honestly. We are probably not going to agree, but I felt you should atleast better understand the ideas you are opposing. 1st it requires of you to take yourself out of the society you live in and just focus on the nature of human beings and the nature of communities. Because if you measure Shariya by the standards of how things are done in London or New York, or the way things were done before Somalia collapsed, it will never suit those standards. 2ndly the Shariya came as a whole, and in order for it to work, it must be applied in whole because when you remove one piece, the rest will collapse. If you say we will not cut the hand of a thief, how are you going to tell the homosexual he is disobeying Allah? He'll simply reply 'so are you'. You pick and choose with regard to theft, he picks and chooses with regard to sexuality. Both are disobeying Allah swt. The Church can't challenge gays because the Christians are hypocrites themselves and the gays know it. And you are following in their foot steps, while speaking the same words. Why is Allah important when it comes to gays, but not when it comes to punishing a thief. If it's about "culture", look around you, cultures change. Even a 5 year old will tell you it's nifaaq. If I haven't been clear before, let me put it to your face. I don't want a form of Sharia which allows amputations, forbids women from walking to the next shop and do their shoppings, forbids any debate on any social issues, prohibits the progression of art, music and sports. Is that clear enough? If that means I am not in line with the form of Islam you and Alshabab preach and gives me names, let it be!! You don't like amputations maybe because; 1) you havn't read ayah (5:38) 2) maybe you have read the ayah but you think blood is gross, in which case we'll go back to what I said about human nature. Maybe you've been trained to believe taking something that doesn't belong to you is not that big a deal. Because statistics prove that's exactly what the kuffar system does. It's badass to go stick people up, get the ski mask yadi yada. So take him to jail. Then the thief is back on the streets. What does society say. 'Oh he did time for armed robbery, stay out of his way' etc. And how about when they see the man with one hand. Not that cool anymore. Allah knows the nature of his creation, how they think, how they behave etc. Cut the mans hand, he won't do it again, and when the kids see him they won't say 'wow he did time for armed robbery, stay out of his way!'. They'll say 'look at this poor man with 1 hand, i don't wanna be that that'. Justice is not just putting on the hand cuff, and placing somebody in a box. You have to ask how does society see things, and how do they respond to these punishments. Islam takes all this into account, while those who follow their desires end up missing the picture. Your point about shopping is false. If there is a condition, mention the condition and explain why the idea of mahram is unnecessary when you see the result of your thinking in the west. Even women in the west ask to be walked when they go here or there, and if we do a survey to see just how many of them get harassed on a day to day basis. It's not seen as a big deal in the west, but Islam does not allow that. A good Islamic scholar once said, "Islam believes in prevention, not intervention". So instead of having this women crying and trying to remember what her attacker looked like so the artist can sketch it and put it on the news, and ohh it was too dark to see his face yadi yada, just have a mahram. What is primitive about the Alshabab is that they want to ban TVs, Internet, and all forms of access to other sources of knowledge and enlightment. They want to deny women the opportunity to work and educate themselves Ban on TVs or TV channels? False Ban on Internet? False Ban on "all forms of access to other sources of knowledge and enlightenment"? False Privacy is protected in Islam. What the authorities have a right to minitor is what is shown on public screens (cinemas), because now you are introducing your private matters to the public and there is no limit after that because you cross a phsycological barrier. If you can watch it publicly, why not advertise it publicly, and then if gurpreet can have a girl friend on the screen, why can't i in real life. Allah knows the creation, therefore He swt stops fahisha at the doorstep, while those who govern according to how they feel continue on their downword spiral. Now, I know you will try to descredit the facts I listed by either claiming that I heard from talkshows or the biased western media, or by stating that what I am inadvertantly doing is oppose 'Islam'. My answer to you will be (1) that not all that the west say is false and no matter how hard we hate or disagree with them, wisdom dictates that we seriously look into what they say about us and see what we can do to fix some of the shortcomings with the practice of our religion. Millions of Somali's (who are not White Albions or Yankees) already disagree with the Talibanisation of Somalia. It is hypocratical and self-serving to discount the importance of this and to spew out zealous rethroic is not convincing objective minds. You have the ability to oppose Islamic laws, and in return Muslims have the ability to oppose kufr. This is the Sunnah of Allah swt. No magic involved. The best man and ideology will win. And Allah swt already told us the result.

He picks the right time to speak, means he's an "oppertunist". He calls for his countrymen to stop supporting shaytaan for financial gain and to put their religion before money, then of course he must be a fake sheikh using religion to advance his political agenda. jokesters wallahi

Like I've said before, can anybody provide a statement from al shabaab saying they took the frenchies. It's not a shameful act, so if they did it, they would say so openly. So far we got anonymous sources and one media grabbing the story from another media. I still think it was an act of extortion from some tfg elements trying to get paid. We'll see if they let the frenchy talk.

Originally posted by Laba-Alifle Inshaar: Jaale Siyaad was not a closet Christian. Perhaps an atheist. Athiests are too arrogant & passionate about their beliefs to lie about it. His motivation was power, and if that meant fake praying to jesus to please some donors in washington, so be it. He probably convinced himself it was for the greater good. A leader is a product of his environment. Today certain somali leaders have kidnapped and handed over Muslims to non-muslims for power. Invite non muslim armies to occupy their land for power. These are among some of the acts of Riddah going on today under your nose. What he did is a shame, if true, but at least Siad Barre can say, 'I was just paying lip service'. What can the folks today say.

Originally posted by bint hamid: quote:Originally posted by money: ...I heard even that they charge toll-fee to those traveling from Shabaab-held towns... who even told you this and where do you get the information?!? :confused: you can see the pictures everywhere of shabaab building the roads and fixing the infrastructure so the people can finally get back to their normal lives. ts not like they have taxes or something to pay for it and anyway if they have a toll it has to be really small or nobody could pay it! and how do you even know that the people on the roads are shabaab - there are like ten thousand highway robbers all over somalia and they steal stuff all the time including money and anything else they can get their hands on so maybe theyre jsut calling it a toll so they dont get caught and get their hands cut off! walaykum assalaam There is no such tax. There were some reports of bandits active around Jowhar recently, but they were cracked down on by the Islamic administration. Other than that, TFG soldiers in Moqadisho have usually engaged in banditry for the past 2 years. And that's usually the case with poorly trained, and poorly paid warlord militias whose only motivation to fight is a United Nations pay check.

If you dont pray the fajr on time, you are a failure. I used to be guilty of this also.

NTVs team of reporter Yassin Juma and Cameraman Eric Okoth spent several days and nights with the Oromo Liberation Front rebel fighters in Southern Ethiopia. Part 1: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Cj3_-e37y gM Part 2: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=s3Td7fOoS kk Part 3: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=d_aQVr1r5 KM

If they've never done such actions before, ask yourself why they would start now. Or could it be ummm...hmmmm.. a lie. kind of like their claim on bbc that shabaab was digging up graves and selling human remains in the black market.

why would they need to torture them... They might execute them, exchange them, or ransom them. Assuming they even have them. I haven't seen any official statement from any group confirming that they have the french mercenaries.

Of course they need money, the difference is they don't go and beg for it. They earn it (ghaniima).

Rahmatallahu aleyhi. May Allah strengthen and grant your family patience.

Gabbal, There are a couple things you need to understand. All major ethnic and linguistic groups had to expand at some time in order to become 'major' in the first place. Whether that be Soomaal, Amhara, Oromo. In the process none can claim to be monolithic groups since expanding in different directions means coming into contact with or conquering different people and eventually developing a distinct history. But without getting into all that, the general rule in this aspect of anthropology is that governments change, languages change, cultures change, but people generally tend to remain where they are. So, for example, whether Amharas are agaw or not is not a big deal because the people who inhabit Shawa are the decendents of the people who inhabited Shawa 800 years ago. They may have spoken another language then, and they may have been Muslim then, but they're very much the same people. Insha'allah they'll be brought back into the folds of Islam in the future. I used Shawa as an example but the same principle applies to almost anywhere else. If you read Futuh al Habasha, and travel to the places mentioned in the kitaab today, you'll notice that most of those groups no longer exist. That doesn't mean all those tribes (with exception of the soomaal) disappeared. Most of those regions & vessal states (muslim and christian) were annexed by Oromo expansion. Just like Somalis expanded before that, and the 'Amhara' led by the Solomon dynasty before that. The latter is a bit different because it was expansion of a monarchy while Oromo and Somali expansions were carried out by individual clans. You can follow the rule I mentioned above to determine who is related to who. Oromali, The Prophet instructed his companions to leave the Abyssinians alone as long as they leave you alone. The Abyssinians never fulfilled that condition.

Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood: Mufti condemns Israeli decision to demolish historic mosque near Jerusalem Jerusalem – Ma'an – The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Muhammad Hussein has condemned a decision by Israeli authorities to demolish the Al-Omari mosque in the village of Umm Tuba near Jerusalem under the pretext that the building had been built without a license on Sunday. Sheikh Hussein told Ma'an that the mosque was built more than 700 years go, and it was last restored in 1963. It is the only mosque in Umm Tuba. The Mufti claimed that Israeli authorities have been attempting to wipe out historic Islamic sites in Palestine which is violation of all religious values and international treaties. He warned of the repercussions and called on the United Nations Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) which is charged with protecting human cultural heritage around the world, and other international organizations to prevent the demolition of the mosque. Crying to the UN.

Ethiopia loses her last MiG-21 pilot to exile SEATTLE, Washington - Lt. Yonas Belay, Ethiopia's last remaining MiG-21 pilot who had a staggering 128 reconnaissance missions into enemy territory in the 1998-2000 Ethiopia-Eritrea War, recently sought a a political asylum in Canada. Trained in Moscow in the mid-80s as MiG-21 and MiG-23 pilot, Lt. Yonas ended for good a life that had been caught between flying as a fighter pilot in times of war and languishing as a political prisoner in times of peace. for full story ===> http://www.ethiomedia.com/articles/fighter_pilot_yonas_belay.html

RIP cadre Saddam, I always knew we were alike. Except i would have put bullet in my head before capture

The panic is on the streets, not in the media. They just want to be able to say 'the situation is under control' but they havn't been able to say it since they arrived.

Originally posted by Castro: I watched the video earlier and you could hear the sound of a goat in the background. This could be a hoax of some sort. It could also be part of the propaganda war against the rubbish coming from the likes of Dinari. Either way, I doubt it will achieve anything but add to the excuses of the occupiers to stay even longer. Which site? Link it up.

Originally posted by ScarFace: its funny hw somali ppl forget things so quickly wasnt the moryanss doing the same thing raping their sisters and assaulting the civilian population in somalia. Same situation but with a different entity... Did Ethiopia oust the moryaan, or did they oust law and order? The people that brought these scum should be responsible for their behaviour, dont you think?

Hussein Osman aka Bambi is Ethiopian national, I'm guessing Adaree. Mukhtar Ibrahim, is of Eritrean origin though I'm not sure what ethnic group.The one to the far right, Ramzi Mohammed is somali. Man, this was awhile ago they havnt been tried yet? :confused: