^ The true imposters you speak of Caamir, are now in Mogadishu. Any court of law would convict the criminals in Mogadishu without any hesitation.

Xabashkaan jawaab igama helayo. Qashin kasto oo uu soo qoro hadii looga jawaabo, wuu kadari doonaa. Laakiin Duke, maxaad udiiday in aad ka jawaabtid suaasha aan kuweeydiiyay? Waa suaal muhiim ah. Ninyohow ilaahay u toodabkeen, oo iska daa taageerka aad siineeyso dhiig cabayaasha. Waa kuwo dalkaado iyo diintoodaba xabashada kaga iibsaday waxaan qiimo laheen.

^Facts don't mean anything to you do they? I repeat, the Courts turned the weapons they were planning to leave behind to chosen elders from different districts of Mogadishu. If these elders were unable to safeguard these weapons, the ICU are not to blame. Mind you, part of the reason why these elders were unable to safeguard the weapons trusted to them, was due to the fact that some of the former warlords appeared on the scene before elders had any chance to calm tensions. Your thugs stood by as Mogadishu was bombed. In a short yes or no answer, did you support that bombing, and if not, why do you continue to support those who were complicit in such an act?

^The events relevant to my post have been verified by numerous media outlets. The ICU left Mogadishu in order to limit civilian casualties. Are you mad because the criminals you support are doing the exact opposite?

Originally posted by General Duke: Why spare Mogadishu and not KISMAYU? They talk a good game but their actions differ. You know well that there are conflicting reports as their actual destination. Stop trying to score cheap points. Originally posted by General Duke: Why spare Mogadishu on a press release then hand heavy wepons over to the streets? In fact, the ICU took great care with their weaponary. All weapons that the ICU decided to leave behind were handed over to the elders. These elders were charged with the task of securing those weapons and keeping it out of the wrong hands. I answered this point very clearly in my second post. Originally posted by BiLaaL_07: Mid kale oo maxkamadaha sameeyeen waxeey aheed in odayaasha iyo waxgaradka deegaanada kala duwan lagu wareejiyo qaar kamid ah hubka Makmadaha". Do you not read Somali?

^ I'm sorry to hear that you've lost relatives in this war. Muslimiinta kudhimatay dagaalkaan ilaahay kuli janatal firdoos haka waraabiyo. The aim behind this post is not to defend anyone in particular. However, the ICU's decision to vacate Mogadishu in order to saveguard civilian lives, is one that should be commended. The genocide that Sheekh Shariif predicted would have certainly taken place, were it not for the ICU's decision to place the welfare of civilians above their own goals. It's the TFG thugs that have shown total disregard for the civilians. In addition to the initial post, we have since had more details pertaining to the ICU's decision to withdraw from Mogadishu. Abdirahman Janaqow, the deputy head of the executive council of the ICU, has elaborated on the point in question by saying that "we have taken the decision to leave Mogadishu because of the safety of the civilians ," he added that their troops were now "heading to somewhere they think they can fight with their enemy and kill them one by one without fighting among the civilians ".

^Aamiin Inshallah. Abdullahi Yusuf and his thugs would never have been capable of such a noble act. In fact, Uncle Yey allowed Mogadishu to be bombed!. One wonders whether he was at all consulted before that criminal act of bombing Mogadishu airport and shelling sorrounding neighbourhoods was carried out. Shir jaraa'id ah oo lagu qabtay magaalad Muqdisho habeenkii kahoreeyay bixitaanka Maxkamadaha, qodobadaan ayeey soo saareen: 1. waxaa Waajib Muqadas ah in la ilaaliyo Mabaa'diida iyo jiritaanka qaranimada Soomaaliyeed. 2. Golaha Maxkamadaha Islaamka waxa ay ogol yihiin in Umada Soomaaliyeed ay aayaheeda ka tashadaan, una diyaar garowdo sidii ay xilkaas ula wareegi laheyd 3. Golaha Maxkamadaha Islaamiga Soomaaliyeed waxa ay aaminsan yihiin ama ay go'aamiyeen in aan wadanka ama Caasimada aan laga sameyn wax fowdo ah. 4. Ciidamamada Maxaakimtu waxay Mas'uul ka yihiin Amniga iyo Xasiloonida Caasimadda Soomaaliyeed ee Muqdisho. Mid kale oo maxkamadaha sameeyeen waxeey aheed in odayaasha iyo waxgaradka deegaanada kala duwan lagu wareejiyo qaar kamid ah hubka Makmadaha. Qodobadaan waxeey xaqiijiniyaan in Maxkamadaha mar walbaba uu fikirkooda ahaa sidii loo badbaadinlahaa shacabka xamar. Afarta qodob oo eey Maxkamadaha soo saareen waxeey noqon doonaan kuwa waxbadan laga qori doono, markii taariikhda Maxmadaha qoritaankooda labilaabo.

The ICU had good intentions from the start and has proved so with their decision to vacate Mogadishu. Even with the grave situation facing his movement, Sheek Sharif's mind was with the welfare of the people. He has shown himself to be a man of supreme courage. Courage to do that which is right. He has proved himself to be a born leader. The world both Arab and non-Arab were impressed by the gentle manner, clarity of mind and political astuteness of Sheekh Shariif. Knowing full well the cruel characteristics of anarchy, he showed unrivalled mercy and far-sightedness; announcing that "we need our soldiers to return to their positions for the sake of the people"; he continues, "even if your positions are transferred to the government, you must stay where you are and make sure Mogadishu is as safe as it was before ." The purity of these words are such that only the blessed companions of the Prophet ( s.c.w) and particularly that of Abu Bakr As-Siddiq come to mind. In one of his earliest Khutab's as a Caliph, Abu Bakr As-Siddiq uttered these noble words, "the weak among you are powerful in my eyes...and....the powerful among you are weak in my eyes". Indeed the suffering populous of Mogadishu were more powerful in the eyes of Sheek Shariif than the advancing armies. To be sure, Sheekh Shariif's movement had alot to gain from defending Mogadishu, and it would have raised their stature. Sheek Shariif took this noble act of placing the good of Mogadishu's residents before that of the ICU. The fast developing diplomatic manoeuvres were all in favour of the ICU. Sheek Shariif with his impressive insight, knew this more than most. Prior to the decision to vacate Mogadishu in order to avert unnecessary suffering to the people; political developments were as follows: Firstly, the defunct AU had just reversed its earlier ill-advised position and was calling for Ethiopian troops to pull-out immediately; secondly, pressure was building in the Security Council and any action taken there would have certainly further eased the situation in favour of the ICU; thirdly, the Kenyan government was attempting to convene a meeting between the ICU, AU, AL and IGAD, a meeting which looked promising. All in all, the ICU's impressively co-ordinated and highly complex withdrawals were starting to pay dividends, all they had to do was to hold Mogadishu for a few days and surely the political pendulum would have swang their way. Having considered the preceding developments; this act of Sheek Shariif to avert bloodshed in Mogadishu by withdrawing his forces, at a great cost to the standing of the ICU, appear even more impressive. Averting the pain and suffering of the people was paramount to Sheekh Shariif, even if it meant defeat for his movement. Indeed with these actions, Sheek Shariif brought into reality the prophetic words of Sheek Caweys, when the latter vowed that "the good of the Somali people is more important than my personal interests". As the battle intensified and the enemy drew closer, the words of Sheekh Shariif become even more awe-inspiring; telling Al-jazeera television that “they did not leave the city to chaos”, but rather that they left it "to avert heavy bombing because Ethiopian forces are practising genocide against the Somali people". Only when the dust settles will we come to realise and appreciate just how magnanimous this decision taken by Sheekh Shariif to vacate the city of Mogadishu is. Sheek Shariif will surely come to be immortalized in Somali history, he along with Sheekh Caweys have taken their rightfully earned positions alongside Axmed Gurey and Muxammad Cabdille Xasan. N.B. Sheek Shariif and Caweys should not be written off as yet. Praise be to Allah who has once fulfilled his promise and will once again, no doubt fulfil his promise to all those who work good.

Mogadishu 26, Dec.06 ( Sh.M.Network) – Maxkamadaha islaamka Somalia ayaa waxa ay sheegeen in dagaalka ay kula jiraan ciidamada dowladda Ethiopia uu yahay mid aan dhamaaneyn, isla markaana sii dheeraanaya, iyagoo ku macneeyay gobolada ay ka soo baxeen dib u gurasho xeelad dagaal, dagaalkana ay ka badaleen qidadii hore. Sheeikh Shariif Sheekh Axmed, Gudoomiyaha maxkamadaha islaamka Gudoomiyaha golaha fulinta maxkamadaha islaamka Somalia Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed oo maanta markii ugu horeysay soo hadal qaaday dagaalo 8 maalmood jirsaday oo ku dhex maraya Somalia ciidamada maxkamadaha iyo kuwa Ethiopia oo ay la socdaan ciidamada dowladda ayaa waxa uu sheegay in ay badaleen qidadii ay ku wadaan dagaalka, isla markaana dagaalka uu qaadan doono sanado, maadaama aysan heysan hub xooggan oo uga hortagaan ciidamada Ethiopia. Waxa uu sheegay in ay jiraan wada hadalo ku dhex maray dowladda Ethiopia magaalada Dubai ee dalka Imaaraadka, iyadoo Ethiopia ay shuruudo adag oo aan u cuntamin maxkamadaha ay halkaasi ku soo bandhigtay, islamarkaana ay ku gacan seyreen. Sheekh Shariif waxa uu sheegay in maxkamadaha islaamka Somalia ay sii wadi doonaan dadaaladooda ku aadan difaaca dalka iyo diinta, isagoo waxba kama jiraan ku tilmaamay wararka sheegaya in ay joogto Somalia kooxo argagixiso ah. Hadalka Sheekh Shariif ayaa ku soo beegmay xilli maalintii 8aad dagaalo ay ka soconayaan gudaha Somalia, iyadoo ciidamada dowladda Ethiopia ay cir iyo dhul kaga soo duuleen Somalia.

Even the defunct AU has approved of this illegal invasion. If it were for any other country, the above points would not have been dismissed as lightly. The events of the last few days will not be forgotten, nor will the defeaning silence from the international community. The instigators of these events will be held accountable. Soomaaliyeey hurdada ka kac. Abdulaahi Yuusuf iyo Geedi naar aakhiro iyo mid aduunyaba isku diyaariya.

Let us refresh our memories back to August of 2006. Remember the mass defection of parliamentarians back in early August. The source of this defection emanated from the opposition many parliamentarians voiced about a resolution aimed at legalising TFG's plan to 'invite' Ethiopian military advisors to 'train' TFG soldiers. Back then, the mere presentation of this resolution led to scuffles in parliament, followed by mass defections. In fact one-third of the cabinet quit parliament. In the end Abdullahi Yusuf had no choice but to dissolve parliament. The point here is that the resolution aimed at legalising Ethiopia's so-called military advisors was never passed. Despite this, the TFG continues to claim that the Ethiopian presence in Somalia is at the invitation of the TFG. This contention is baseless. The resolution was never passed, therefore the Ethiopian presence in Somalia is illegal. It is illegal. After failing to get the endorsement of their fellow parliamentarians, Abdullah Yusuf and his domesticated animal (Ghedi) invited the Ethiopians unilaterally. Equally groundless is the notion by Ethiopia that this war was launched in self-defense. Addis Ababa has ratified and is party to the UN Charter which permits military action only in response to ‘actual or imminent’ attack. The ICU never attacked Ethiopian nor was it planning to do so. Furthermore, this Ethiopian invasion is also in breach of the recent U.N. resolution barring all neighbouring countries from involvement in the proposed ‘peacekeeping’ force. The framers of this recent U.N. resolution including (red neck) Bolton are of course not going to honour the contents of their own resolution barring all neighbouring from involvement in this conflict; why would you, when the real aims behind that U.N. resolution are now being fulfilled on your behalf.

Good news indeed. Thanks for the update OLOL. The final victory will be for the courts, Inshallah.

Somali_F, You're the one with zero credibility. Not along ago, you were claiming that Sheekh Caweys 'made it out in time'. > http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008126 It is not the first time that you've proven yourself to be a lying knucklehead.

Just who recruited this guy in the first place? He is now officially on bar with the domesticated animals he once treated as a veterinarian. The only thing waiting for him in Mogadishu is his grave. [ Aljazeera ]The Islamic Courts Union will never capture the Somali government's base, the prime minister has said in an interview given shortly before Ethiopian jets bombed the main airport in the capital. Mogadishu international airport's managing director said after the attack on Monday: "The airport has been hit. A MiG jet dropped something. "We are still trying to assess the damage, but one person has been injured." Ali Mohamed Gedi, speaking late on Sunday from his base in Baidoa, said: "My confidence is very high. We have enough military forces to defeat any invasion, any attack by the terrorists of the so-called Islamic courts." The prime minister said that the Islamic courts forces had 8,000 foreign fighters in their ranks and, on Monday, a government spokesman said that Somalia had closed its borders. "The government has decided to close our borders, air space and sea space," Abdirahman Dinari said. "We are requesting the international community, especially neighbouring states, to help us effect this." Gedi said that his government, backed by the Ethiopian military, would be victorious. He said that government troops inflicted a serious defeat on the fighters near the town of Dinsoor on Sunday. "We will definitely remain in Baidoa. If we go anywhere, it will be to [the capital] Mogadishu. Once they get defeated, they will run away. Then we will move to Mogadishu, where the people are waiting for us," he said. Accusations Gedi said foreign Muslim fighters had recently poured into Somalia, which he said confirmed the government's accusations that the Islamic courts movement was led by terrorists. "Their numbers have doubled in just the last few weeks to about 8,000. Only in the Dinsoor area on Sunday, where we had the worst fighting yet, there were more than 4,000 foreign fighters," he said. Gedi said government forces had photographs of three slain foreign Arab fighters - whose nationalities could not be identified - and had captured an Afghan flag on the battlefield. Gedi said: "The presence of international terrorists makes this a global issue. These people only want power through bloodshed." Peacekeepers Gedi said that the government was grateful to Meles Zenawi, the Ethiopian prime minister, for his country's support. Addis Ababa, which had previously acknowledged sending only military trainers to Baidoa, said on Sunday that it was at war with the Islamic courts and had sent forces into Somalia "to protect the sovereignty" of Ethiopia. Kenya is bracing itself for a flood of refugees, and aid agencies are seeking to get emergency food and supplies into affected areas. Gedi called for the acceleration of a UN-endorsed plan to send African peacekeepers into Somalia. "I think that must happen. It is a global responsibility," he said.

Alle-ubaahne, taasi waan kugu raacsanahay. Runtii meeshaan weey kadartay. SOL members of the kind Alle-ubaahne alludes to should take note. Don't allow yourself's to be deceived by fake Western notions.

Oromia, thanks for digging that up. It is indeed sad that an Oromo brother shows more care for the welfare of Somalis than many so-called Somalis in this forum. Our brothers and sisters have displayed great heroism and steadfastness for many decades. Even at this grave hour, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that our brothers and sisters in occupied regions will oneday be liberated. Their efforts will not go unrewarded, Inshallah.

Originally posted by peacenow: I think personally, the ICU were itchin for this from the very start. The TFG should have told the Ethiopians to leave, and made a deal with the ICU. Why resort to baseless allegations, even at this hour of pain? Unless you suffer from amnesia, the ICU invited Abdullahi Yusuf to Mogadishu countless times. Originally posted by peacenow: But the radical faction in the ICU felt they had the better hand and weren't ready to make peaceful accomdartion. You sound like a lazy reporter from a Western media outlet whose only talent/interest is to hurl ill-thought through and meaningless words. If you consider Sheekh Aweys as part of this 'radical faction', remember well that it was he who personally invited Uncle Doom to Mogadishu. An offer that was sadly not taken up.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar, brother i share your pain. Rest assured though, Abdullahi Yusuf has lost more than just a dream to one day lead the Somali people.

Originally posted by Somali_Friend: In a nut shell it comes down to this. The ICU has been completely taken over by the supreme leader Hassan Tahir. Nothing, absolutely nothing can the ICU do now that is not in alignment with Hassan Tahir and his organization. The ICU has two separate branches, the executive led by Sheikh Shariif Axmed, and the Shura Council led by Sheikh Xasan Daahir Caweys. Sheikh Axmed is the overall Chairman of the Courts, whereas Sheikh Caweys chairs the Consultative Shura Council. The word 'Shura' means consultation in Arabic. The role of the Shura Council is to approve the decisions of the Chairman. Some have incorrectly interpreted this to means that real power lies with the Shura Council, since the power to approve is vested in the Shura Council. The Shura Council of which Sheikh Caweys chairs, by no means acts unilaterally on any matter. The system of governance in play here is an Islamic one dating back to the Prophet, perhaps this explains its wide mis-understanding by non-muslims such as yourself. This is a system where ego or vested interests play no part. Adhering to its principles is tantamount to belief in Allah and his Prophet, likewise digressing from it, is tantamount to disbelieve in what Allah and his prophet have brought. You're assessment views Sheikh Caweys as a politician; if he were one, perhaps you'd be right. However, Sheikh Caweys is a man of religion, who realises the transitory nature of worldly benefits. You also speak of: 'Hassan Tahir and his organization' . Sheikh Caweys is part of the ICU. An uninformed reader might take this to mean that Caweys commands an organisation separate from the ICU. I'll take it that this is a mishap on your part. First let me dispel the notion that Hassan Tahir is working on the greater Somalia dream. Nothing could be further from the truth . Sheik Caweys has made his ambitions for Greater Somalia very clear in numerous news articles. I'm sure you've come across many of them yourself. A recent quote of his is as follows: "We will leave no stone unturned to integrate our Somali brothers in Kenya and Ethiopia and restore their freedom to live with their ancestors in Somalia." Note that he mentions both Kenyan and Ethiopian occupied areas. Hassan Tahir would change his tune if Kenya now offers to recognize his government (ready to be declared if they can find countries that will jump ship from TFG) Some research would have helped your case. Kenya has already jumped ship from the TFG to join the growing number of realists. As many of us remember, Kenya was reluctant to see an Islamic state in Somalia much like Kampala and Washington. This was futher exacerbated by the peaceful takeover of Kismayo, a city close to the Kenyan border. Kenya changed this stance at the recent mid November Djibouti meeting when it distanced itself from the peacekeeping proposals and joined the growing chorus of diplomatic efforts aimed at restarting negotiations. Raphael Tuju, Kenya's foreign minister, has held meetings with Somali expatriates, to reaffirm Kenya's stance, and agreed to appoint a committee made up of expartriates to monitor developments in Somalia. Its been a little over a month since Kenya changed its stance. Sheikh Caweys has not sold out his fellow Somali Kenyans has he? Going by your comments, he should have done this as soon this latest recalculation by Kenya took place, in support of the ICU. Before you jump to defend and declare, he would never do that, I ask you to go back and look what happened with the Barre regime and not a finger was raised in Mugadishu when Barre signed away with Kenya . Comparing Barre with Caweys is a sign of just how weak your case to defame Sheikh Caweys is. I'll wait for you to come up with more substantial evidence or even a slight hint that Caweys ever entertained thoughts to relinguish the idea of Greater Somalia. Secondly, Hassan Tahir has done more destructive acts against WSLF and is most disliked for this reason . Incredible! Evidence please!! WSLF decided to do the following in 1984: 1. suspend military operations, because the somali was in so much difficulty where his very survival was in question . Before tranversing the points you've listed, let me dispel one erroneous notion of yours, which i believe you're well aware of. Which is this - why do you speak of WSLF, knowing that it no longer exists? The WSLF has long been replaced by the ONLF, so let us discuss its views rather than the views of WSLF which were naturally influenced by the political climate of its era. 2. Mugadishu involvement has always been negative to the Somali. First of all there is the legal question. An independent country somalia speaking of lands in another independent country ethiopia, legaly means aggression and no country, even arab countries can support it. The struggle of the Somali ethiopian is a struggle for self determination. Period . I'm glad that you've brought up the legality of the concerned areas and the right of the occupied peoples to self-determination. Aggression is a crime under international law, but only when two completely sovereign states are involved. The areas the Somali state ventured into were formely land that rightly belonged to the Somali state prior to partition. This partition was ofcourse illegal. Modern constructs of international law cannot deal with such situations, since its framers were part of the problem. The question of aggression in regards to disputed land is therefore not classed as 'aggression'. You speak of self-determination. The concepf of self-determination was introduced in part because international law was not retrospective enough to deal with such disputes. I am all for self-determination. If Ethiopia allows self-determination for the areas it occupies, we all now to whom the ONLF would choose to become part of. 3. If a federal system can be set up in ethiopia, the Somali will set up self government and build all the structures of a self governing peoples and land, so has a self standing government, institutions, police, militia as a state and participate in the ethiopian federation . A federal system is not the answer. To be sure, federalism would go some way in reducing the difficulties for occupied areas, but it ignores the reality that Somalis in these areas wish to return back to the fold of their brothers and sisters in Somalia, where their economic, cultural and religious well-being would fare better. So since you seem to be of the conviction that Hassan Tahir works very hard for greater somalia, I just showed to you that on the contrary he works against it, as far as the Somali ethiopians are concerned . You've shown nothing to indicate the above contention. The notions you've presented are absurd, i've addressed them not because there is any merit in them but because of my desire to clear up any confusion. Somali_Friend, you've side-tracked on my original question; which was to give reasons for you're misgivings against the ICU. The ONLF was never mentioned in my original post. So far, the only thing you've shown is that you have deep reservations about Sheikh Caweys, none of which are true in the slightest.

Yes I have met Somalis from ICU held or if according to some occupied lands. Is that so scary to you? Yes I am an ethiopian. What troubles me is not that you're Ethiopian or that you've met Somalis in ICU held areas. What troubles me is why you detest the ICU so much? Most Ethiopians condemn the actions of Zenawi in Somalia, why aren't you one of them. What have the ICU done to you? There is more Somali in ethiopia than there is in Djibuti, Somaliland and Puntland all put together. Have you ever considered that this may be due to the fact that Ethiopia occupies a large portion of Somali territory. The large number of Somalis you speak of do not exactly reside in Addis (i.e. the interior) do they? These are just some very elementary info for your benefit. Just in case you follow ICU propaganda of lies about ethiopians. yes lies. Because I can give you examples of them. I must have triggered a nerve for you to call me a novice at Somali affairs. In regards to ICU propoganda; the ICU do not spread lies or propoganda. It is natural for indigenous administrators to highlight the evil designs of occupying armies. The ICU has thus far done nothing more than this. Sheikh Shariif Ahmed has reiterated, many times, that they have nothing against the Ethiopian people. Somali_Friend, the question remains, if you're not a missionary who detests the ICU on religious grounds, on what grounds do you detest the ICU? I have read many of you're posts and have not detected any nationalist sentiments from you, so i gather that you're not upset at the 'Greater Somalia' project advanced by the ICU. So what exactly is your problem with the ICU?

Originally posted by Somali_Friend: I have met Somalis from ICU held areas, admitted that they didn't know about Tigray until ICU made it a household name in Mugadishu. You've just shown your true colors. You're either a lying missionary or a true missionary, in which case SOL members should take note. Presumably, you've visited these ICU held areas post June of 2006. What exactly is an Ethiopian like yourself doing in ICU held areas? Let it be clear to all that the reason this filty missionary posts derogatory threads against the ICU is because they've made he's work almost impossible to do; and will in time, inshallah, make all missionary efforts disappear from all Somali territories. In another thread by this member, 'The road to Darfur lies in Mugadishu, Somalia - Radio Jijiga ', we find this continuing trend. Originally posted by Somali_Friend: Are you saying that Hassan Tahir did not run away to Mugadishu, through central somalia when Al-Ithad was decimated and its arab fighters captured. Zenawi with his so-called second biggest army in Africa found it hard to dislodge Al-Ittihad for a number of years. This time Sheikh Xasan Daahir Caweys is back with the support of all Somalis. If Zenawi couldn't achieve victory against a small band of fighters, how will he defeat the ICU? Let it be known that even at the time of Al-Ittihad, Sheikh Xasan Daahir Caweys's aim was to come to the aid of defenseless border line communities such as Luuq, who were suffering at the hands of Ethiopian soldiers. Contrary to the lies being spread by this missionary, the Sheikh's fighters were Somali and not arabs. The Sheikh established this group at a time when neither the international community nor Arab fighters were interested in Somalia. Somali_Friend, you can continue to post thread after thread of your baseless accusations, but i assure you, that your baseless accusations will not go unanswered.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: bilaal, that was not a question. would it matter that it was done by the tigre habashas of northern ethiopia or the tigrinya habashas of eritra? caqli xumada iska ilaleya! Naxar, the question is a valid one. The question is meant to highlight the disastrous consequences that many who support an outside force have simply tossed aside. In answer to the first part of your question, ofcourse i would rather that instances of rape or killing not occur at all. The second part is rather unfaithful. Thus far, there haven't been any reported cases of Tigre habasha from Eritrea either raping or killing anyone. If you have any reports to the contrary, do enlighten me. The reason for this, i think, is quite simple. An Ethiopian Tigre would be more likely to commit crimes against defenseless Somalis because of their acute awareness that their inviter(Uncle Yey) has no respect nor concern for the welfare of his own people. An Eritrean Tigre, on the other hand, understands well that the ICU have both respect and concern for the welfare of their subjects and would therefore not even dream of transgressing against any Somali. Labadeena yaa caqli xun? Ma nin cadow shisheeye dadkiisa iyo dalkiisa in eey burburiyaan ku taageeraya, mise nin kadigiya foolxumada umaankarto hadii laga wareegan waayo jidka lagu socdo?

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar, Qaadisiya wararka badanaa la daabicin, ayeey mar walba isku daydaa in eey wax kasheegto. Tigreeyda in eey kufsadaan waa mid lawada ogyahay oo mar hore la xaqiijiyay. Warkani ilaahay yuu run kadhigin, laakiin hadii wax dhacay eey tahay, waa muhiim in la ogaado.

Abwaan, waan kugu raacsanhay. Geedi waxuu kusoo baxay mid fikradiisa aad u liidato, oo waxyaalo jirin abuur waqtigiisa ku dhameeyay.

TFG supporters is this what you envisage for Somalia? Allow me to repeat a question i've asked previously in another thread: How will you TFG supporters feel, if a family member or relative of yours is either raped or killed by a Tigree soldier? Or has your twisted logic led you to believe that illiterate Tigree soldiers will somehow distinguish between TFG or ICU supporters. Remember, the first reported instances of rape by Tigree soldiers, took place right under the nose of Uncle Yey in Baydhabo. Baydhabo, 05-December-06 ( Qaadisiya.com) Wararka naga soo gaarayo Magaalada Baydhabo ayaa waxa ay xaqiijinayaan in Ciidamada Tikreega ee kusugan qeybo kamid ah Gobolka Baay ay Gelinkii dambe ee Maanta kufsi kula kaceen Haweeneey da'a oo gaareya Sanadkeeda 60-sano. Haweeneydaasi ayaa lagu soo waramayaa in saf ay ka mareen Ciidamada Tikreega ah (Innaa Lillaahi Wa Innaa Ileyhi Raajicuun), waxaana sidoo kale Ciidamada Tikreegu ay cuna qabateyn kusoo rogeen dadka kudhaqan Tuulooyinkaasi. Dadweynaha kudhaqan Tuulada Qansax Oomane oo u dhaxeysa Bardaale iyo Yurkud oo katirsan Gobolka Baay ayaa sidoo kale waxaa lagu amray in aysan ka iibsani Karin Magaalada wax kabadan rubac Sonkor ah, taasi oo ay ku micneeyeen in ay u geynayaan Muslimiinta hawdka ku dhuumaaleysanaya waa sida ay dadka deegaanadaasi u sheegeen. Dhinaca kale Ciidamada Tikreega waxa ay ka Afduubteen Bardaale Wadaad lagu magacaabo Sheekh C/llaahi oo ay ku sheegeen in uu katirsan Yahay Muslimiinta Soomaalida isla markaana aanan la ogeyn halka ay la aadeen. Dhibaatooyinkani ka dhacay Gobolka baay gaar ahaan Goobaha ay kusugan yihiin Ciidamada Tikreega ah ayaa waxaa u ogolaaday in ay sidani waxyeelaan Dowladda Kumeel gaarka ah oo iyadu sheegata in ay Shacabka Soomaaliyeed wakiil ka tahay isla markaana ay horkacayaan Col.C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Cali Maxamed Geeddi. Shacbiga kudhaqan Gobolada Dalka oo idil ayaa markii uu soo gaaray warkaasi durba ka muujiyay arrintaasi carro aad u daran, waxayna ballan qaadeen in Dhowaan Inshaa Allaah laga xureyn doono Guud ahaan Ciidamada Tikreega ee Xoogga kujooga Dhulka Soomaaliya gaar ahaan gobolka Baay. Ma ahan markii ugu horeysay oo Dhibaatooyinkani oo kale ay ka geystaan Ciidamada Tikreega ah Gobolka Baay, waxay horey u soo dhigeen Meydka Haweeney wadada aadan Manaas illaa Degmada Baydhabo, waxaana sidoo kale jira Dhbaatooyin kale oo aad u fara badan oo ay ku hayaan shacabka Soomaaliyeed ee Muslimka ah. Golaha Maxaakimta Islaamiga Soomaaliyeed ayaa horey u balan qaaday in ay ka xureyn doonaan Gobolka Baay meelaha ay kaga sugan yihiin Ciidamada Tikreega lakin waxa ay intaasi raaciyeen in Gudaha Baydhabo laga doonayo Shacabka kudhaqan in ay kacdoon ka abaabulaan oo ay iska dhiciyaan Tikreegu iyaguna markaasi ay garab siin doonaan Inshaa Allaah.