I asked for Strength And Allah gave me Difficulties to make me strong. I asked for Wisdom And Allah gave me Problems to solve. I asked for Prosperity And Allah gave me Brain and Brawn to work. I asked for Courage And Allah gave me Danger to overcome. I asked for Love And Allah gave me Troubled people to help. I asked for Favours And Allah gave me Opportunities. I received nothing I wanted I received everything I needed! (((this writting is very inspiring, i apologize couldnt find the author, but it is very interesting. masha allah)))

Originally posted by ThePoint: quote:Originally posted by Asxabul_kahf: First all brother or sister' I dont know what to say about your last comment- because if i tell you to fear allah- are you saying i am not daacad? are you saying no one will take me serious untill i loose the righteous tone? how should i talk like- use words that are full of nifaaq- by the way this is just to warn all people ' us included. Everyone is painted with a black brush- guilty before innocence with words like this. pur·port·ed -Assumed to be such; supposed: the purported author of the story. Supposed: Presumed to be true or real without conclusive evidence. Allegedly-Represented as existing or as being as described but not so proved; supposed. Depending on the context - when someone says 'fear allah' - the implication is that those to whom they say that don't fear allah. That is a self righteous tone - do not assume that people don't fear allah. Purported, supposed, allegedly are all words indicative of some doubt as to the facts. Thus they simply cannot be as you put 'painted with a black brush' nor are they 'guilty before innocence' since, again, these are words indicative of doubt! :eek: I told you earlier to fear allah- wether you are doing wrong or not' because it is always benefitial to the beleivers to be conscious of their creator. Second it is easy to get lost in arguments and political views so it is a wake up call to bring us back to being sane. I am sure you already know bro/sis that also our deen doesnt permit us to say something we are doubtfull about or that can create doubt in others. But other than that i thank you for being decent and understanding- Unlike some who scratch with mere low jabs. Naxarey stop the insults if you are capable of being decent!

First all brother or sister' I dont know what to say about your last comment- because if i tell you to fear allah- are you saying i am not daacad? are you saying no one will take me serious untill i loose the righteous tone? how should i talk like- use words that are full of nifaaq- by the way this is just to warn all people ' us included. Everyone is painted with a black brush- guilty before innocence with words like this. pur·port·ed -Assumed to be such; supposed: the purported author of the story. Supposed: Presumed to be true or real without conclusive evidence. Allegedly-Represented as existing or as being as described but not so proved; supposed.

Who said the UIC arent dealing with bigger issues. What do you call the peace process in khartoum? What do you call setting up the safety of the city and maxaakims? What do you call cleaning up and opening the ports and airports? People lets stop the nac nac and talk real...this is a city that was HOPE-LESS dictated by warlords and people paying ISBAARO all day. No one is giving the maxaakim their probs that they got rid of those blood hungry warlords that was stabbing somalia over and over again. No one is talking about how they got rid of the isbaaro' and ensure safety for common people to do their business Everyone is criticing them for stoping indecency and immoral stuff. And if one person from the maxaakim ( who are ordinary people living in the city) tries to stop someone from doing something bad it is the MAXAAKIM doing taliban style regime! GUILTY BEFORE INNOCENCE - it is clear everyone was pointing a finger at them before they even got a chance to proof themselves. I Think 15 years of hate has dried up our heart! please ask allah forgiveness.

so called wadaads. so much name calling here that you wonder' are we all muslims? do you like eating the flesh of your brother? or maybe we talking politicals and everything became permissable! subhanalah- fear allah people. that is all i am gonna say before the reality comes.

BROTHERS AND SISTERS...FEAR ALLAH...and stop getting your vision distorted by cruelty tribalism and all the other filth driving people to nifaaq. Look how our brothers and sisters are working hard to do good and bring peace to our home. give them their due probs and respect. support them and if you cant at least say something good or be quite. May allah give them complete victory over all the shayatin!. ------------------------------------------------ Ololaha Nadaafada Gobolka Banaadir oo si rasmi ah uga bilowday qeybo ka mid ah magaalada Muqdisho.(daawo sawirada) Posted to the Web Jul 20, 15:31 Muqdisho:-Guddiga Nadaafada gobolka Banaadir ayaa maanta si rasmi ah hawlo nadaafadeed uga bilaabay magaalada Muqdisho, taasi oo qeyb ka ah qorshe golaha maxaakimta islaamiga ay ugu tala galeen in lagu soo celiyo bilic samida magaalada Muqdisho. Guddigan oo maalintii isniintii guddoomiyaha golaha maxaakimta islaamiga uu kaga dhawaaqay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa hawlahooda nadaafada ka bilaabay goobo ay ka mid yihiin garoonka diyaaradaha, fagaaraha Taribuunka iyo goobo kale oo istiraatiiji ah, ayada oo ololahan ay ka qeyb qaadanayaan ururada bulshada rayidka ah, maamulka degmooyinka iyo dadweyne aad u fara badan. Boqolaal qof oo u badan hablo ayaa maanta si weyn uga qeyb qaatay olalaha nadaafada ee lagu soo celinayo bilic samida magaalada Muqdisho, waxaana maanta buuxiyay inta u dhaxeysa warshada caanaha ilaa isgoyska Taribuunka dadweyne ka qeyb qaadanaya hawlaha nadaafada. Guddoomiyaha golaha samafalka iyo horumarinta Soomaaliyeed Sheekh Axmed Maxamed Suleyman oo xubin ka ah guddiga nadaafada gobolka Banaadir ayaa sheegay in hawlaha nadaafada si dar dar leh ay ku bilowdeen, waxa uuna ka codsaday shacabka ku dhaqan magaalada Muqdihso in aysan u kala harin ololahan lagu soo celinayo bilic samidii luntay ee magaalada Muqdisho. Wadooyinka waa weyn ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxaa lagu arkayaa gawaari lagu soo xiray cod baahiyayaal, kuwaasi oo la socodsiinaya dadka ku dhaqan magaalada Muqdisho in uu bilowday ololihii nadaafada gobolka Banaadir. Golaha maxaakimta islaamiga Soomaaliyeed oo la wareegay gacan ku haynta magaalada Muqdisho ayaa muujiyay sida ay uga go’antahay soo celintii bilicsamadii lagu yaqiinay magaalada Muqdisho, waxa ayna ku dhaqaaqeen furista wadooyinkii dagaalada sukeeye ku xirmay iyo olole lagu nadiifinayo magaalada ayada oo arrintaasina loo xil saaray guddi ka kooban 5 xubnood oo kala shaqeyn doona maamulka gobolka iyo qeybaha kala duwan ee bulshada soo celinta bilicda magaalada. Halgan.net C/Qaadir Osman Muqdisho SOURCE

I would tell this "me" person..ku hadal afka soomaaliga horta hore' i can scream Westernization anytime you speak english - but that would be on my part nonsense!

^^^^^ Waxaad ku hadleysid ma soomaali baa? Mise waad jeclaan laheyd hadii la dhihi lahaa iskuulada oo idil ingiriis bay ku hadlaanoo waxaa la keenay in habrihii loo bilaabo ESL. ilaahay ka cabsada' oo waxaan nigama aha soomaali jaceyl oo waa diin naceyb. ingriiska waad jeceshihiin inaad ku hadashaan...laakiin maalintii carabi la soo hadal qaado waa is gaduudinaysaan. ala munaafaqsanaa! war hooy i dhageyso' diinta islaamka ilaahay ayaa u doortay in ay af carabi ku soo dagto' carabiga waa uun af ka mid ah ilaahay afafka uu dadka baray' soomali ilaahaa naga dhigay ayagana carab ka dhigay. Af walba ilaahaa leh hadaad wax garad tahay. Ee joojiya quraafaadkaa dadka aad ku shubeysaan. Hadaad af shisheeya ka soo hor jeedaan maad ingiriiska iska deysaan???? So stop the nonsense and twisting of words and ideas' and fear allah. Making someone guilty before they get their chance to show their innocence that is how the kafiroon/munaafiquun are known for. May allah guide all those who are lost! I am innocent so prove me guilty....

Salaam with respect- I wish not to engage in any debate' for the simple reason that so many earlier ones have steered the wrong way and I only pointed out to you the previous ayah and comment to start you on the thinking process and research. Also wish to share the adab of debates said by our earlier scholars for all others who are viewing this. “A debate is only justified to unveil truth, so that the more knowledgeable should impart knowledge to the less knowledgeable, and to stimulate a weaker intellect.†- adh-Dhahabi “I never talked with someone but sincerely wished that Allah guard him, protect him from sin and misdeed, and guide him; and I never debated with someone but sincerely wished that we would come upon truth, regardless of whether he or I should be the one to think of it first.†- Imam al-Shafi`i “Cooperation in seeking truth is inherent to religion, but sincerity in the pursuit of truth can be distinguished y certain conditions and signs. A diligent seeker of truth may be compared to one who is looking for his lost camel. It would be immaterial for him if he or another person should be the one to find it. Likewise, a sincere truth-seeker would perceive his partner as a helper rather than an adversary, and would be grateful to him if he should guide him to truth.†- Al-Ghazali “If quoting, maintain accuracy; if claiming, provide proof.†[An aphorism of Muslim scholars] “Some scholars used to excuse anyone who disagrees with them in debatable matters, and did not insist that he should accept their view. - Ibn Qudama [Al-Mughni] “My viewpoint is right, but can be wrong; and my adversary’s viewpoint is wrong, but can be right.†[An aphorism of Muslim scholars] “I have never debated with a knowledgeable person but beaten him, and I have never debated with an ignorant person but been beaten by him.†- Imam al-Shafi`i “Let each one of the debaters accept statements of the other party supported with proof. By doing that, he would demonstrate a nobility and self-respect, and he would prove himself to be an acceptor of truth.†- Ibn Akeel “Over-enthusiasm is a mark of corrupted scholars, even when the case they are defending is true. By showing excessive enthusiasm for truth and their contempt of their opponents, the latter would be stimulated to retaliate and react in the same manner. They would be driven to stand for falsehood and to be true to the label attributed to them…If the champions of truth had spoken kindly to them avoiding publicity and humiliation they would have succeeded in winning them over. But as it is, a person who enjoys a place of prestige is strongly inclined to preserve his position by attracting followers, and the only way to that is to boast and to attack or curse adversaries.†- Al-Ghazali “I never debate with someone and he accepts my proof except that I hold him in high esteem, and I never debate with someone and he refuses my proof except that I lose all esteem for him.†- Imam al-Shafi`i “If you sit with scholars, my son, be more interested in listening than in speaking. Learn good listening just as you learn good speaking. Never interrupt a speaker, even if he takes long, until he comes to an end.†-Advice of Al-Hasan ibn Ali (radhiallahu `anhu) to his son. “Learn good listening just as you learn good speaking. To be a good listener, you should give a speaker time until he concludes, not seeming anxious to reply. Have your face and look in the direction of the speaker and try to understand what he says.†- Ibn al-Muqaffa`

Didn't you see the tens of people on TV arguing against every point you present in a debate against the other side’s cause and reason...they are always right and justified. This side argues that they are simply doing this to better matters, they are trying to bring about peace, When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!" however, I think at the end of the day we, as humans, all need and desire the same things, rights and all, regardless of our affiliation and the color of the uniform we are wearing.... May peace prevail in all the LANDS. [/QB] As long as there is Kufr and iman - they nulify each other like light and darkness. explanation of kufr The Qu'ran uses the word Kufr to denote people who cover up or hide realities. The Qu'ran uses this word to identify those who denied Allah's favors by not accepting His Dominion and Authority. Kufr thus is an antonym for Iman or disbelief in Allah and a Kafir is a non-believer. This type of Kufr is called AL-KUFRUL AKBAR or major kufr. There are many types of Al-Kufrul Akbar 1. Kufrul-'Inaad: Disbelief out of stubborness. This applies to someone who knows the truth and admits to knowing the truth and admits to knowing it with his tongue, but refuses to accept it and refrains from making a declaration. Allah(swt) says: Throw into Hell every stubborn disbeliever [surah Qaaf (50), Ayah 24] 2. Kufrul-Inkaar: Disbelief out of denial. This applies to someone who denies with both heart and tongue. Allah(swt) says: They recognize the favors of Allah, yet they deny them. Most of them are disbelievers. [surah Nahl(16), Ayah 83] 3. Kufrul-Kibr: Disbelief out of arrogance and pride. The disbelief by the devils (Iblis) is an example of this type of Kufr. 4. Kufrul-Juhood: Disbebelief out of rejection. This applies to someone who aknowledges the truth in his heart, but rejects it with his tongue. This types of kufr is applicable to those who calls themselves Muslims but who reject any necessary and accepted norms of Islam such as Salaat and Zakat. Allah (swt) says: They denied them (OUR SIGNS) even though their hearts believed in them , out of spite and arrogance. [surah Naml(27), Ayah 14] 5. Kufrul-Nifaaq: Disbelief out of hypocrisy.This applies to someone who pretends to be a believer but conceals his disbelief. Such a person is called a MUNAFIQ or hypocrite. Allah( swt) says: Verily the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of Hell. You will find no one to help them. [surah An Nisaa (4), Ayah 145] 6. Kufrul-Istihaal: Disbelief out of trying to make HARAM into HALAL. This applies to someone who accepts as lawful (Halal) that which Allah has made unlawful(Haram) like alcohol or adultery.Only Allah(swt) has the prerogative to make things Halal and Haram and those who seek to interfere with His right are like rivals to Him and therefore fall outside the boundries of faith. 7. Kufrul-Kurh: Disbelief out of detesting any of Allah's(swt) commands. Allah(swt) says: Perdition (destruction) has been consigned to those who disbelieve and He will render their actions void. This is because they are averse to that which Allah has revealed so He has made their actions fruitless. [surah Muhammed (47), Ayah 8-9] 8. Kufrul-Istihzaha: Disbelief due to mockery and derision. Allah (swt) says: Say: Was it at Allah, His signs and His apostles that you were mocking? Make no excuses. You have disbelieved after you have believed. [surah Taubah (9), ayah 65-66] 9. Kufrul-I'raadh: Disbelief due to avoidance. This applies to those who turn away and avoid the truth. Allah(swt) says: And who is more unjust than he who is reminded of his Lord's signs but then turns away from them. Then he forgets what he has sent forward (for the Day of Judgement) [surah Kahf(18), Ayah 57] 10. Kufrul-Istibdaal: Disbelief because of trying to substitute Allah's Laws. This could take the form of: (a) Rejection of Allah's law(Shariah) without denying it (b) Denial of Allah's law and therefore rejecting it, or © Substituting Allah's laws with man-made laws. Allah (swt) says: Or have they partners with Allah who have instituted for them a religion which Allah has not allowed. [surah Shuraa(42), Ayah 8] Allah(swt) says: Say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely (that) is lawful and this is forbidden so as to invent a lie against Allah. Verily, those who invent a lie against Allah will never prosper. [surah Nahl (16), Ayah 116]

Sometimes when i see the munaafaqnimada of some people out here, it is just how allah described it in the quran. Calling the deen backward, calling the islam -arabism (how idiotic' do you know the original culture of the arabs before islam-" If you are not adhering to the quran and sunnah please dont criticize it' but then again that is what the quran says that you would do. "samicnaa wa adacnaa" to the ayats in the quran and the hadith of the prophet s.c.w...i guess you call it blind following' well go ahead and follow your hawaa' and we will see where it gets you. Some people act like intelectuals but they dont use their brain and critically ask themselves what they are doing, they always try to defend their desires and temptations. I call intelectual some one who is using their brain someone who knows his limits and that allah is who teaches man what he did not know. It is not your brain or others that actually contain real ilm, you seek ilm by the one source that tought everyone and that is allah' so go back to the quran before you open up another karl marx book. Education is fine' but when the wrong type of filth is tought to the ignorant (The one who doesnt know allah/quran) it becomes deadly in this life and the here after. may allah guide us in the st8 path the path of those who took the siratul mustaqiin. the nabiyeen' sidiqeen' shuhadaa wa salixiin. amin.

Originally posted by Pi: Asxabul Kahf, I don't think anyone needs to be lectured or preached to, so if ya dont mind, I have an idea for ya'll. Instead of preaching about how haram or evil music is (every muslim knows the controversy and contention over music according to the scholars), you and your two cave buddies (Khalaf and Didi) should check up on your dog. I'm pretty sure he's feelin lonely in that cave. "O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, in deeds some suspicions are sins. And spy not neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allah, verily, Allah is The One Who accepts repentance, Most Merciful" (Qur'an 49: 12) Abu Hurayrah (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said: "Do you know what backbiting is?†They said, “Allah and His Messenger know best.†He then said, “It is to say something about your brother that he would dislike.†Someone asked him, “But what if what I say is true?†The Messenger of Allah said, “If what you say about him is true, you are backbiting him, but if it is not true then you have slandered him." Please lets refrain from calling each other names ( i dont want to start lecturing on the rights muslims have on one another) We are brothers in islam.I wish peace on you brother. I apologize if i have annoyed you, I was simply giving everyone naseeha. May allah guide us all amiin.

^ dont worry as long as u know, i will let u have the last word

^ I am sorry if i didnt make the usual "opinions" that you are use to.

^ Ok I see you want to argue I think you know the answer' if you dont. here it goes. NO IT IS NOT OK. monkey music, somali music, hindi music, arab music..whatever music! “And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…†[Luqmaan 31:6] “[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…†[al-Israa’ 17:64] The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…†(Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91). Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This is a saheeh hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh, where he quoted it as evidence and stated that it is mu’allaq and majzoom. He said: Chapter on what was narrated concerning those who permit alcohol and call it by another name. This hadeeth indicates in two ways that musical instruments and enjoyment of listening to music are haraam. The first is the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “[they] permit†which clearly indicates that the things mentioned, including musical instruments, are haraam according to sharee’ah, but those people will permit them. The second is the fact that musical instruments are mentioned alongside things which are definitely known to be haraam, i.e., zinaa and alcohol: if they (musical instruments) were not haraam, why would they be mentioned alongside these things? (adapted from al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 1/140-141) Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This hadeeth indicates that ma’aazif are haraam, and ma’aazif means musical instruments according to the scholars of (Arabic) language. This word includes all such instruments. (al-Majmoo’, 11/535). Yaa akh' lets all make tawbah and follow the sunnah of the prophet s.c.w. IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND????