The biggest fitna is when Somalis cheer for foreigners against their own. How did we get here? Legendary Quote! Its sad to see somali people cheering and taking orders from gaalo. Any patriotic somali would never accept that.

yaaye, America is gonna give us ',DEMOCRACY', we will all be living free, freedom for everyone, yaayeee. Oh and Ethiopia is gonna provide us with peace and security, and we shall all live happliy ever after

yaaye, America is gonna give us ',DEMOCRACY', we will all be living free, freedom for everyone, yaayeee. Oh and Ethiopia is gonna provide us with peace and security, and we shall all live happliy ever after

yaaye, America is gonna give us ',DEMOCRACY', we will all be living free, freedom for everyone, yaayeee. Oh and Ethiopia is gonna provide us with peace and security, and we shall all live happliy ever after

Why do we somalis promote the barbaric nomadic culture, when somalia has such a long and rich history. From Kingdoms and sultanats, to trading with the worlds great civilisation, arabia, india, china etc. We have a rich history, yet always seem to over look it and promote the nomadic for somalia. Why is that, can anyone explain.

Moonlight, whiles i don't agree with alot of your political views, i must say, i agree with all of your list. I think we have to put a limit on the amount of hilib geel somalis eat, their missing out on seafood seriously. I also wouldn't mind getting rid of whole political system of having a president etc etc.

I think one thing we havn't done in somalia is excavate our historical sites,and from what i heard theirs plenty of them. Imagine how much knowledge we can gain from past, from the ancient egyptians,phoenicans , to the greeks and romans,early islamic period to the ajuuran empire, mogadishu sultanat, and early modern sultanats in northern somalia. Seriously somalia is full of historical sites waiting to be excavated.

Hatu: Getting rid of tribalism will take generations and generation. Its not really tribalism but how people use. The best way to get rid of it is to educate the people, and ban talk of tribalism in public areas. Kinda like to stigmatise it. Uztaad: Yeah we need town planners seriously. I don't think people actaully think about it when their bulding their houses or business. Che: So you believe nothing needs changing in somalia?

Imagine somalia was peaceful and you had the power to change things, wether culturally, economically, archtiturally, any other random thing. What would you change,or would like to see changed. For me it would be; 1) Change the somali alphabet, to either an indigenous or arabic script. Seriously somali in latin looks out of place, too many "aa''s and "oo"'s, its just messy. 2) Introduce a standardise system of architure, seriously some of the architure, especially the houses look disorganised with all the different styles and colours. 3) Change the somali shilling. Come on seriously, thats a legacy of colonialism. We need to get our own currency. 4) Introduce proper town planning. Seriously some somali towns and cities, look like if they have been layed out by a blind man, or arranged by a tornado. 5) Change the name of our soccer/football team, come on, Ocean stars? seriously thats a G-Y name. I bet other teams must be laughing at us. THE MIGHTY OCEAN STARS lol More to come...

Sherban Shabeel, maybe you should go mourn for the Ugandans and the Burundians at their funeral. No asked them to come to Somalia, they choose to come to somalia of their will, thus they face the consequence. I have no sympathy for them, just as they have no sympaty for the civilians they bomb everyday in mogadishu.

Less Ugandans and Burundians = A step closer to peace between somalis.

yayeee, America is gonna bring us peace Yayeee, TFG is gonna bring us peace Yayeee, Ethiopia is going to leave us alone Yaayee, Sharif is our messiah Yaaye, UN is Helping build a country Rejoice my fellow somali brothers and sister, rejoice............. ......

^^ Ms DD, is right, There was no prove that, this man did anything, their was no evidence. At the end of the anyone can be put on that terrorist list, just because the US doesn't like them, Ie. Sheik Sharif The point is, man like Sharif, Sharmarke, and the rest of this TFG cricus are not going to get us out of our mess. Matter of fact the TFG is actaully making things worser.

Unfortunatly we seem to always be cursed with bad leaders. Ps. Somalis have too potential to be subordinates to anyone else. Imagine we became like some african countries, where the majority of the people are starving and all the wealth is taken by 10% and foregin companies and powers, eg Nigeria. I think we are in a postion to determine our future today, and should take advantage of it.

I am more scared, somalia becoming a colonised state, where our leaders are controlled by foriegn powers and ruthless dictators, who work for the interest of others.

Salam Nomads. I have been following the latest developments in somalia and wanted to share my two cents. TFG: Strenghts: 1)Internationally recognised- Its nice to be recognised and have good contacts with the rest of the world, which would result in trade and foriegn investment, but the real Question is does the UN have the interest of the somali people at heart? or is the TFG just a tool to futher divide the somali nation. 2)Has some decent personalities who may have the interest of the somali nation at heart. 3)Supported by the culuma and other respectable somalis in the dispora when Sheik sharif was elected. Weakness 1) Legitmacy- who does it really represent? Who picked these so called minister, sure as hell me and most other somalis didn't. 2) Too many warlords and shady characters- Imagine a government with abdiqeybdid, shatigudud, Bare Hiirale, M.Dhere, etc etc, these are men who have been holding the nation back. Thus i doubt these men have the interest of the nation at heart. 3)Based on a injustice formula, the 4.5. I thought everyone was equal, we are all citizens of somalia. But from what i can see, this method will only increase discrimination aganist minorities, and institutionalize clan as one Nomad has suggested. 4)A throw back to the past, same faces, same people, same minds, who have been ruling this nation. We need fresh faces, and new idea's and a new generation to move this country foward. 5) No vision or direction has the goverment has proposed. Sheik Sharif has not given a single noteworthy speech outlining his plans for the future of the nation Nor the premier minister Sharmarke Alshabab: Strengths: 1)You know what your are getting from alshabab, you cross the line you get punished. This means criminals, rapist, murders and ******** will get the rought end of the stick, just what somalia needs after 20years of anarchy. 2)With alshabab we wont be slaves to Ethiopia, Kenya or Uganda, and no more somali politicans making pilgrimages to addis abba or nairobi.Maybe we will have a bit of pride back and be a feared nation onces again. 3)They have already proven they can manage alot of land and some of biggest cities in somalia, including kismayo, marka, and baydhabo.These areas seem to have enjoyed a bit of peace since alshabab tookover. Weakness: 1)More Wars, more deaths and more assissinations, in alshabab & Cos, conquests. 2)Blockages, sanctions, but you know, were somalis, we always find ways lol. 3)Intolerant of certain sects in somalia. Thus these are just some of the strengths and weakness of both these entities, iam sure their are many, many more. In my opinion i believe Alshabab would be a better alternative to the TFG in the long run for obvious reasons, but the one i am most worried about is the fact that with the TFG we would be back to square one, clan rivalries, political infighting and corrupt individuals inciting their clan to gain a position. One alternative would be to dissolve the TFG and start all over again but this time to include Alshabab & Co, who knows maybe might accept it. Anways sorry about the long reply nomads and Salam.

What a nice Thread. Feel like going back home now.

I don't think Atlantis was Ireland, they described Atlantis as an Continent Island.In My opinion i Think Atlantis was one of the Perished Nations Revealed in the Quran like the PEople of Ad , and that the Ancient Egpytians Twisted the Story when they told it too the Greeks. :cool:

I think they should behead any so called 'muslim' whos working with the kuffar (americans, colliation) no matter if he is pakistani, indian, arab or somali, becase their are only their too make Money while the poor people of Iraq are dying by the hunderds in their own ountry.

shouldn't every day be a mothers day? :cool:

G'day sheherazade. iam a nomad from perth australia. well first of all ..australia is a great palce to live even tho the prime minister john coward is making it more and more like america :mad: , if u want too have a family or if ur a student its the place too be, but dull if ur a party type of person. Where i live is called perth which has about 3500 somalis but soon it will be the second large capital for somalis after melbourne which has the most somalis living in it. As far as iam concerned most somalis tend too be studying hard here, properly because theirs nothing else too do So far i haven't encountered any racism from white australians but i did from aborginine australians, i think they feel treatend by somalis and other africans, the relationships between the communities are at an all time low thanks too the over exageration of the media :mad: The outback is lets just say not for soft hearted people alot of britz when too the outback most died of dyhedrations or corc attack all in all australia is niceee place :cool:

Make the youth more patriotic, give the somali people an indentity and something too be proud of .

chubacka i feel ur pain

Of course the man "theirry henry" is the Best player in the world.: Figo-diver beckham-should switch to modeling

Thats just ****** ,too say that you hate someone who has never done anything too you.I don't know where the somali people got this kind of hate but its very ****** and most likely out of ignorance. Theirs no reason too hate ethopians or any other people for that matter because theirs good and bad in every nation.