Typical Xalimos, always running to religion to justify their choices.

Whiles I am not the most religious or Knowledgeable person, theirs one thing i would never consider and that's Riba, especially in regards to the way its described in the Quran: 275. Those who eat Ribâ (usury) will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaitân (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: "Trading is only like Ribâ (usury)," whereas Allâh has permitted trading and forbidden Ribâ (usury). So whosoever receives an admonition from his Lord and stops eating Ribâ (usury) shall not be punished for the past; his case is for Allâh (to judge); but whoever returns [to Ribâ (usury)], such are the dwellers of the Fire - they will abide therein. 276. Allâh will destroy Ribâ (usury) and will give increase for Sadaqât (deeds of charity, alms, etc.) And Allâh likes not the disbelievers, sinners. 277. Truly those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, they will have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. 278. O you who believe! Be afraid of Allâh and give up what remains (due to you) from Ribâ (usury) (from now onward), if you are (really) believers. 279. And if you do not do it, then take a notice of war from Allâh and His Messenger but if you repent, you shall have your capital sums. Deal not unjustly (by asking more than your capital sums), and you shall not be dealt with unjustly (by receiving less than your capital sums). 280. And if the debtor is in a hard time (has no money), then grant him time till it is easy for him to repay, but if you remit it by way of charity, that is better for you if you did but know. 281. And be afraid of the Day when you shall be brought back to Allâh. Then every person shall be paid what he earned, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly.

Sheik Raage has indeed spoken the truth, theirs a massive inferiority complex with a lot of the Xalimos in the West noways. Now the story he retold is not something new and many including myself has seen it happen, wheres a Xalimo sells her self cheap to a ajnabi and gives hard time to her Somali brothers. Now I don't care if they marry ajnabis but what annoys me is most of them once they marry ajnabi they start bagging our Somali culture and Somali men, Whats more they all use 'Deen' to cover up their lust for Ajnabi men, Na if you going to marry ajnabi then marry him, stop hiding and using lines like 'aslong as hes muslim' or 'I want a man with deen' as if their no niman somali with deen.

Why talk to terrorists, I can't understand.

Naxar Nugaaleed;923732 wrote: lets hang these people? this your addition to these debates Traitors have no place in any nation, they must be dealt with.

The president needs to toughen up and deal with these terrorist's and traitors.He needs to bring these trouble makers and hang them, set an example, we can't have every goat herd have his own opinion on how to run the country.

Mooge;915779 wrote: did anyone notice anything? qoslaye finally closed his mouth after he read mooge's redicule. looool. who said fadhikuriri can't change anything. lool Cawaan, you sound like a little baby who split his milk.

Apophis;895799 wrote: There's nothing wrong with "deen" and someone with "deen" can also be cultured but it becomes a problem when these mullahs are convincing women they should only choose their future husbands based on "deen". It's a horrible cliche now. Every (ok I'm stretching it ) Somali chic is starting the convo and finishing it with "deen". And they're looking for a specific kind of "deen" with clearly visible attire and facial features. I don't blame the women; I blame the people of A&T & NGONGE'S generation who have allowed this brainwashing to occur under their watch. They have utterly failed and abrogated their responsibilities. Well said, u made some excellent points..you can have 'deen' and also be cultured, alot of these brainwashed youth have low self esteem and would bend over backwards for other people.

Narniah;895677 wrote: Thanks Rahima. 5.. I wasn't thrashing all Somali men, I was just answering a question I was asked. This is why I don't like to get into debates with people on this forum cause no one leaves room for any understanding it's your either with them or against them there's no middle ground. Maybe you haven't read my post sister but I blatantly stated that I felt sorry for the sisters who felt that way. I don't know why people like to only read parts of my posts and ignore my main point. Oh well, I'm use to it but please re-read my post as you seem to have missed my own point. Let's not forget that I'm Somali too, and so is my lovely father though I believe men like him are rare in any community nevertheless there are many amazing brothers in our community some of them being my own brothers, and I admire and look up to them. Oh pls man, don't you ever have anything new to say? You say that same lame line to every post I make about marrying out the community. Isn't dagax a stone in af somali, why am I suppose to marry one? Such a deranged individual you are. Pathetic, you think Somalis are full blooded? They are also mixed, so you can kindly shove your racist comments. Oh and what a coincidence today a Bosnian brother who's a 10 in looks n deen proposed to me...Hmm.. I will do that bro, and I know some really nice Somali guys I just don't have anything in common with them unfortunately. The ones who got the looks don't have deen and the ones with deen don't have looks...Long story... Thanks The only think the shines from this post is your lack of self esteem, and your deep seated hatred of anything Somali, especially Somali men. Now I don't blame you, alot of young Somali girls suffer from this disease, a lack of self esteem, they will generally try to cover it up by using religion to get their point across, but we all know deep down they hate themselves and their culture. Furthermore in order to justify your fetish for ajnabi men you go about bashing Somalis and Somali culture, even calling us mixed breed, which any proud Somali would stand against such blaspheme. Like I said if you have fetish for dhagax, cadaans or whatever, that's your choice but don't come and try to force us to accept it.

Narniah;894054 wrote: I'm glad you realize you went a lil overboard there. I know your passionate about your views when it comes to this topic, so I'm use to it. (at least should be by now). As you know (and obviously can't stand) I'm supportive of Somalis marrying ajnabies cause I don't see anything wrong with it. I think it's absolutely absurd that people say ''if you marry a Non-Somali person your automatically someone who isn't cultured, that you must hate ur own kind bla bla. Hearing these misconceptions every single time this kind of a topic arises is a lil tiring. Like the claim you made earlier (indirectly) that Somalis who are married to ajnabis don't eat traditional food, or burn unsi. Are you for real? I think it's perfectly possible for a Somali man/woman to marry a Non-Somali and still uphold their culture & deen. You have to understand that not only the bad apples (culture hating, deen forsaking) ones marry foreigners. There are many very educated, deen oriented, chaste, have their parents duas/blessings marry ajnabis. I don't think it's fair on those people for us to badmouth them and paint a negative picture of them just because we're too scared to accept (What Allah has made halal) throw insults at them behind behind patriotic mask. I know there are some culture hating, deen hating, Somalis who marry ajnabis for all the wrong reasons. Eg; There are some people in my peers who confined in me that they will not marry Somali. When I heard their reasons I really felt sorry for them cause I can only imagine the surprises they'll be presented with once they get hitched. Even though I don't condone all their reasons for not wanting to marry Somalis...but I certainly understand where they're coming from... here are some reasons they didn't want to marry a Somali... 1 They told me they don't expect much from Somali men (as they will most likely end up a single mom if they were to end up with one)... 2.. Most Somali men don't want to grow old with their wife. Married....gone...single mom (is the norm it seems...etc.. They marry for the wrong reasons, not to fulfill half of their Imaan as Islam says or to be a long lasting companion to their spouse. 3.. Somali men don't want to be men! Instead of providing for their wives they rather let them go on benefit even when the women aren't entitled hence they're lawfully married (they will encourage them to seek aid through benefit, make a false claim such as ;they're divorced/even widowed in some cases when they're not subhanaAllah. (Spineless, and I think this is the root of all downfalls in our communities. 4..Have you ever seen a Somali man in court demanding his rights to see his child, like other cultures do when they father a child? Hardly. Most of the Somali women who are single moms have to beg their men to come see their children (like it or not..but it's a fact). Do some exist that voluntarily without being pressured want to be part of their kids lives? Yes..but they're hardly non-existent. We seem to be a culture that takes enormous pride in the number of children we have but sadly most of those kids are only raised by their mothers. I don't even know why I'm saying sadly, cause Walahi the Somali women have fulfilled both the father and mothers position and they are also supporting the fathers of their children, looking after them. They are superwoman. But their daughters...Aren't having it. And I don't blame them. I better stop don't want it to turn into a book lol. If you wanna marry some dhagax or cadaan or whatnot, its your choice, but don't try to push your mix-breeding agenda on us.

The amount of atheist's on this forum is disgusting, I don't understand how SOL can give them a platform to spread their ideas.

*Blessed;868311 wrote: I agree with you Chimera. Narniah, I don't know where you live but your post is full of generalisations. I personally respect peoples choices but it is silly when one sets out to lie about a whole community and exaggerate the qualities of others to justify marriage choices, you really don't need to do that. Well said.

Chimera;868204 wrote: Narniah all that self-justification is unneccesary, if a revert tickles your fancy, then be content, no need to second guess your preference or generalize a group of men who have historically been credited as champions of Islam. Its not reverts that quadrupled the attendancy levels of mosques all across the west, its Somali men. Its not reverts that are building major new ones, its Somali men. Its not reverts who put their weight behind the first muslim senator in America and got him elected, its Somali men. Its not reverts changing the perception of muslims in the west, its Somali men like Mo Farah. Your not 'seeing a rise' in Somali men 'on the deen lately', your just seeing another generation growing up, that's called the cycle of life. There is no threat to the average Somali male coming from any community, we'll be 45 million strong in a few decades, so our numbers are growing healthy, and plenty of sisters will always be available to Somali men even if they become atheists, buddhists or scientologists, their is no competition whatsoever. Somali women's affection for Somali men goes deeper than religion, its primal attraction lol, so how about we stop pretending we need to 'fix-up' when whatever issues the community is facing involves all members, including dumarka! Well said, all these talk about " A religious guy" is all nonsense. I doubt I have ever seen a revert with the same knowledge as some of the Somali brothers who I have seen, yet some deluded Xalimo's go on about Some Revert who just reverted yesterday, can't even put two words together. 'At the end of the day it comes to a lack of self esteem, many of those Xalimos don't get enough attention from Somali guys, so they feel unwanted and are ready to jump on anyone who gives them a sec of attention.

Its mostly the parents fault, its no use bringing kids into these environments and not giving them proper guidance. If they feel their kids are going down hill, they should move away.