Originally posted by The Duke: ^^^Mogadishu you have armed groups fighting? Did you not claim things were under control in Kismayu with Taano & Dheere or is there a clan war there as we all thought before. If so, then be clear that your militias are murdering civilains walking from Mosques and businessmen because of their clan. Just look at your reasoning here between Mogadishu and Kismaayo and tell me if it doesnt sound utterly ******. Justifying the dead of civilians when it suits you and crying "ya tol ahey" marki ay xabaada dabada kaga dhacdo. Sxb adkeysiga si baro wax badan aya kugu so fod leh.

Originally posted by Paragon: Who elects the PM? The MPs or the Ministers? If it is the MPs then, Ministers can resign all they want. It is a bit of a conundrum innit...? Eid Mubarak to all Nomads.

^^ I think there is a clear message to them in his statement - he doesnt want to see any other governance in Somalia except that of his wishes and understanding of Islam. Hence apart from swearing at the Ethiopians and their stooges he is also telling the Asmara group 'to sit on it' - well not in literal terms. You see it is not only the TFG that is fundementally divided.

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: didn't we see a similar movie before ?? Yes indeed we did!

Originally posted by The Duke: Magacyada Wasiirrada Qaraarka soo saaray: Maxamed Maxamuud Guuleed Gacma-dheere Ismaaciil Maxamuud Hurre Buubaa Xasan Maxamed Nuur Shaargaduud C/risaaq ***** Biixi C/llaahi Yuusuf Maxamed Xaraare Maxamed C/llaahi Kaamil Cabdi Maxamed Tarax Cali Ismaacil Cabdi Giir Qamar Aadan Cali Cali C/llaahi Cosoble C/raxmaan Jaamac Cabdalla Maxamed Ibraahim Xaabsade Cali Maxamed Maxamuud Maxamed Nuuraani Bakar Maxamed Maxamuud Xeyd Madoobe Nuunow Maxamed Cali Axmed Jaamac Jengeli C/qaadir Nuur Carraale Aamina Maxamed Mursal C/llaahi Axmed Afrax C/llahi Cabdi Garrun Xasan Dhimbil Warsame Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com What happens if Geedi wins the confidence vote and chooses not to name any of the above again in his new cabinet.... bring on the pizza the show is about to start... £5 on 2/1 that Geedi will survive this - who is in?

Originally posted by The Duke: ^^^All deaths are tragic, in Mogadishu you have an ongoing battle. Baidoa was calm and few deaths from the suicide bomber. Kismayu on the other hand you have a group, who claim to be part of the system and killing individuals from the local clans. Could you please expand on more about the 'system' you mention which justifies the killing of those in Mogadishu but abhors the killing of those in Kismayo. I knew you were sick Duke but I might have overly estimated you.

Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Banaadir oo sheegay in hakadka kuyimid qaraxyada labadii habeen ee lasoo dhaafay ay qeyb katahay wax uu kusheegay hawlgallada ay Muqdisho kawadaan Muqdisho Talaado , October 09 2007 SMC Maxamed Cumar Xabeeb (Maxamed Dheere) Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Banaadir ahna Duqa Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa ka hadlay Fikraddiisa ku aadan hakadkii kuyimid 2-dii habeen ee lasoo dhaafay Qaraxyadii Muqdisho ka dhici jiray. Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Banaadir ayaa sheegay arrintaasi in ay asal u yihiin dhowr waxyaabood oo ay ka mid tahay wax uu ku sheegay Is-afagarad dhex maray Golaha Dhaqanka iyo Midnimada Beelaha USC iyo Ra’iisal Wasaare Geeddi iyo sidoo kale Hawlgallada ay Magaalada Muqdisho ka wadaan Ciidamada Dowladda KMG ah iyo Kuwa Itoobiya oo isgarabsanaya. Dhinaca kale hadalka Maxamed dheere ayaa waxa uu ku soo aadayaa xilli labadii habeen ee la soo dhaafay ayaan laga maqlin Magaalada Muqdisho wax qaraxyo ah inkastoo Hadalka Maxamed dheere kadib Maanta Muqdisho qeybo kamid ah ay ka dhaceen Qaraxyo Xoogan oo lala beegsaday Maleeshiyaadka TFG-da. Somaliweyn Media Center (SMC) Muqdisho Somalia It is all getting interesting now

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: So,What will the Habashis do? What will the Americans do? What will the Wadaads do? That is the big question, though I dont think whether the wadaads will care less who is in top of TFG whether Geedi,Yeey or Qamar for them they are all enemies. It is how these other two will behave , lets see we dont have long to go now

Somali PM strikes deal with Mogadishu clan leaders MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's prime minister has reached a truce with Mogadishu's dominant clan, whose fighters had supported Islamist-led insurgents in battles with government troops and Ethiopian forces earlier this year. USC clan elders met Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi amid tight security on Monday in the capital, which has been rocked by insecurity since January when his soldiers and their Ethiopian allies routed a hardline Sharia courts group. Some USC militia have joined remnants of that movement to wage a rebellion since then. But speaking after the talks, Gedi said the clan leaders would now work with his administration to take on the insurgents. "We agreed a truce and we agreed that we do something about their complaints ... We agreed we work together against anyone carrying out violence," Gedi told reporters late on Monday. Responding to accusations that government troops have been heavy-handed in their hunt for rebels, Gedi called on his army officers to control their men, who he said should perform their duties with respect and discipline. Gedi's government -- the 14th attempt to forge central rule in Somalia -- has struggled to impose its authority in the face of roadside bombings, grenade attacks and assassinations. But rubble-strewn Mogadishu has been relatively calm in recent days, and the outcome of Gedi's meeting with the clan leaders was eagerly anticipated by many war-weary residents. USC spokesman Ahmed Diriye told Reuters the government and insurgents both had a responsibility to end the violence. "If the truce gets enforced, I do hope that all people who have political agendas on their mind, opposing the government, will compromise with it," he said. Source: Reuters, Oct 09, 2007

Originally posted by Armchair Politician: Sharif Ahmad's consensus driven approach was discredited in July 2006 because it wasn't getting anywhere, and Aweys switched policy to a more aggressive stance. It will be up to history to decide which was the correct and incorrect path. Well history has already spoken and proved that Sharif was/is right at the same time facts prove is a little pawn within the Islamic Courts and that they are dominated by hard line militants. Sheikh Aweys needs to be firm in here and give the moderates a chance and stamp out the militants ( that is if he can). We will see , at present stage they cannot mount any serious challenge to the TFG and its masters Ethiopians in World political Arena cause the ICU have been marked out as 'international terrrorists' and rather than fighting to prove that wrong they seem to be indulging it.

Who is this 'he' I wonder - cause for the record Geedi cant afford to deceive. However though I cant wait to see Duke's reaction to Geedi meeting 'adeerkis' Axmed Diriye, wonder whether he will approve or not - my wage is on that he will not.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Heh. A typical Somali piece. Full of glee with no trophy to parade! What trophy were you looking for sxb, the head of Alfredo Garcia?

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: Dhaaf,qarka haa lagatuure,haa loo been guuro Loooooooooooooooooool.......! Do you think that is what Axmed Diiriye and co. are doing....

Wasnt it him who said the Ethiopian aggression was to bring order back, and that people should evacuate house that are in conflict areas - why is he all of a sudden a 'Duke' and mincing his words?

Ra’iisal Wasaare Geeddi oo ka tacsiyeeyay Tacaddiyo Dadka Muqdisho loogu geystay Magaca Dowladda Federaalka Talaado, October 09, 2007(HOL): Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Prof. Cali Maxamed Geeddi oo maalintii shalay ahayd kulan la qaatay Odayaasha Beesha USC, Garabka uu Hoggaamiyo Maxamed Xasan Xaad ayaa mar uu ka hadlayay kulankaas waxaa uu ka tacsiyeeyay tacaddiyo magaca Dowladda Federaalka loogu geystay Dad rayid ah oo ku dhaqan Magaalada Muqdisho. Ra’iisal wasaare Geeddi waxaa uu sheegay in aysan Dowladda Federaalka amrin in Dadka la dhibaateeyo, isla markaana la barakiciyo, wuxuuna caddeeyay in Ciddii bixisay awaamirtaas ay Dowladda ka qaadi doonto tallaabi sharci ah. “Waan dareemi karnaa in Askar aan lahayn tababar ku filan, anshax iyo dhaqan wanaagsan oo weliba lagu sii daray Dad Dharka Ciidamada Suuqa ka iibsaday in ay dhibaatooyin geysanayaan, hayeeshee waan ka tacsiyeynayaa dhibaatadii lagu geystay magaca Dowladda”ayuu yiri Ra’iisal Wasaare Geeddi. Ra’iisal Wasaare Geeddi waxaa uu ugu baaqay Dadkii Muqdisho ka barakacay in ay guryahooda dib ugu soo noqdaan, isagoo caddeeyay in aaney jiri doonin dad kale oo la barakicin doono, balse waxaa uu ka dhawaajiyay in la joojiyo Falalka Nabadgelyo-darrada ah ee ay ka midka yihiin Qaraxyada iyo Dilalka. Ra’iisal Wasaare Geeddi ayaa hadalkaas jeediyay kadib markii Odayaashii ka socday Beesha USC ee uu la kulmay ay u gudbiyeen codsi ah in ay Ciidamada Dowladda Federaalka dhibaatada iyo barakicinta ka daayaan, isla markaana loo ogolaado in ay guryahooda dib ugu soo noqdaan. Odayaasha Beesha USC oo ay u hadleen Maxamed Xasan Xaad iyo Axmed Diiriye Cali ayaa iyana waxay ugu baaqeen Kooxaha ka soo horjeeda Dowladda Federaalka in ay joojiyaan Qaraxyada iyo Dhibaatooyinka kale ee ay geysanayaan, isla markaana ay nabadda qaataan. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Kulanka dhexmaray Odayaasha Beesha ****** garabka uu Hoggaamiyo Maxamed Xasan Xaad ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmay iyadoo la sheegayo in uu khilaaf soo kala dhexgalay Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed iyo Ra’iisal Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geeddi, iyadoo khilaafkooda la sheegayo in uu gaaray in uu Ra’iisal Wasaaraha raadsado Beeshiisa, halka Madaxweynahana uu Baydhabo ka wado kulamo ka dhan ah Ra’iisal Wasaare Geeddi oo uu la leeyahay Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka qaarkood. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

The biggest handicap S/land has had this period of uncertainty in the Horn has been Riyaale for me beyond doubt.

Originally posted by Gediid: quote:Originally posted by The Duke: ^^^lool. LA is were my kinsmen reside and the heart of the dervish struggle against the British. I wonder why you claim, people who dont want your secession and who's fathers fought against yours while you was serving the British? :confused: Hello folks been a while since I last posted. Duke half truths ayaan kugu jeclahey I believe Duke meant to say while your fathers served the British and mine served the Italians....Carry on from there and dont mind my interruption You forgot to add that his fathers (Duke) are still serving the colonialist in this present day , namely the Xabashi.

Ethiopia rebels back US pressure on government NAIROBI (Reuters) - An Ethiopian rebel group applauded on Saturday a bill passed by the U.S House of Representatives that would force their government to make democratic reforms or else lose security aid. The group, the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF), are armed rebels fighting for greater autonomy in ethnically Oromo parts of the vast Horn of Africa nation. "We believe the Oromo people would have everything to gain and nothing to lose from the advancement of human rights, democracy, independence of the judiciary and the supremacy of the rule of law and freedom of the press, which (the bill) calls for," the OLF statement said. "The bill...(highlights) the Ethiopian government's large-scale human rights violations," the OLF added, calling for the U.S. Senate and president to sign the bill into law. The bill also backs the release of Ethiopian political prisoners, of whom more than 80 percent are ethnic Oromo detained under false charges, the OLF said. The bill, passed this week by the House of Representatives, threatens to deny U.S. entry visas to officials deemed involved in human rights violations. Another rebel group, the ****** National Liberation Front (ONLF), has also welcomed the bill. But the Ethiopian government has reacted angrily, saying that if it passes into law, it will threaten regional stability and Addis Ababa's close ties with Washington. Ethiopia is the U.S. government's main security partner in the region, and as such, the bill exempts counter-terrorism operations from any funding restrictions. The bill has surfaced nearly two years after violent protests over May 2005 election results killed nearly 200 when protesters claiming vote-rigging clashed with security forces. That, and a subsequent trial of opposition members including those who won seats in parliament and other positions, led to rights criticism and the withholding of some Western aid. Once a darling of the West, former guerrilla leader Prime Minister Meles Zenawi's reputation has suffered badly from rights concerns in recent years, including his prosecution of a military campaign against the ONLF this year. Source: Reuters, Oct 07, 2007 By Jeremy Clarke Sunday, October 07, 2007

Two motions a) One requesting the ending of Geedi's Government. b) The other requesting the extenssion of the current term of TFG. Very comical indeed. Why cant both be brought to end since they are both failures and intertwined together.

Originally posted by The Duke: ^^^If there is change of PM I do not think there will be much fuss. The anti-governemnt clan media seems to be going all over the place with this issue, as they do not have much to hold on. Since the ASMARA GROUP have become a nothing and the "insurgency" is doing more harm to these groups than to the TFG. Hal hal uu kala qaad sxb: There will be no fuss you say, how can we trust you when you were denying the rift for a quite long time. Secondly , there will be big fuss, and there was already one before the scenario even started - like the detention of Chief Judge - who is from Geedi's camp and who would have refused the legality of the removing Geedi. With that mind am sure there will be conter-action coming from geedi's camp to confront Yeey's move. So we will not accept when you say there will be no fuss aswe know more than you.. And the other I failed to understand is that are you saying that the Asmara group and the insurgents are not linked - please clarify.

^^ You tel me sxb - and it is exactly what I have been asking for ages, while you are at it do you thing the transition will be smooth and mutually accepted by both factions.

Originally posted by The Duke: Sida Idaacadaha wax u buun buuninayaan wax uma jiraan, cidii daneyneysa in ay arrimaha jira wax ka gasha waan soo dhoweynaynaa. Muxuu uu dalbana dhex-dhexaadiyal hadeysan wax jiran - contradiction at its best.

War deg deg ah Afayeenka DFKMG Cabdi Xaaji goobdoon oo ka baxsaday Dowlada F Soomaaliya kadibna Magangalyo siyaasadeed weydiistay War hadda nasoo gaaray ayaa sheegaya in Afayeenka DFKMG Cabdi Xaaji goobdoon uu weydiistay Magangalyo Siyaasadeed dowlada Mareykanka iyadoona wararka uu intaa ku darayaan in ay dowlada Mareykanka ka aqbshaya aqoonsigiisa Afayeenka . Cabdi Xaaji Goobdoon oo ahaa afayeenkii ugu danbeyey ee Wasiirka koowaada Cali Maxamed Geeddi ayaa u muqataa is dhiibidiisa cadaasi ugu yimid howlahiisa shaqo ee u ka haye DFKMG isagoona la sheegayo in uu la soo baxsaday Naftiisa si aan loo qaarajin madaama xiligaan qaarajis xoogan ay fulinayaan sir doonka Itoobiyaa kaasoo ay ugu geysanayaan cid walba oo aqoon leh ama darajo sare ka ahaa ciidanka Dowladihii hore . Afayeenka oo haayo sirar badan ayaa idiin balan qaadeynaa in aan wareysi cod ah kasoo qaadno si shacka u ugu sheego sirta badan uu haayo Is dhiibida Afayeenka Cabdi Xaaji Goobdoon ayaa ku soo aaday maalmo kadib is dhiibid uu is dhiibay Afayeenkii kaga horey shaqada Cabdiraxamaan Diinaari oo isagu hada ku sugan wadanka Sweden dowladaasina ka codsaday magangalyo Siyaasadeed : Is dhiibida xubnaha dowlada ayaa xiligaan xoli ku socota iyadoona dhawaan la sugayo xubnah badan oo firxad ah oo ka tirsan labada gole ee Dowlada si aysaga dhibaan wadamada bixiyaha magangalyada Siyaadeed Xafiiska Wararka Ee Qaahira 'Dayniile'

Wasiirka Dib-u-heshiisiinta oo sheegay in Shirkii Dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed uu ku dhamaaday Musuq-maasuq iyo Cadaalad-darro Sabti, October 06, 2007(HOL): Wasiirka Dib u heshiisiinta iyo Jaaliyadaha Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Maxamed Cabdi Xayir Maareeye ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in shirkii Dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed ee dhawaan lagu soo gebagebeeyay Magaalada Muqdisho uu ku dhamaaday musuq-maasuq iyo Cadaalad-darro. Wasiirka oo maanta waxqabadka Wasaaraddiisa ka hor-jeedinayay Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ayaa wuxuu sheegay in Wasaaraddiisa aysan waxba kala soconin waxyaabihii shirkaas looga hadlay, isagoo dhinaca kalena sheegay in ay soo gaareen cabashooyin ka imaanayay qaar ka mid ah ergooyinkii shirka ka qeybgalay, kuwaasi oo ka cabanayay in aan la tixgelin fikirkooda. Wasiirka oo sii hadlayay waxaa uu intaas ku daray in la lunsaday dhaqaalihii loogu talagalay in shirkaas lagu socodsiiyo, sidaas darteedna wuxuu Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ka codsaday in baaris lagu sameeyo sidii loo qabtay shirkaas. Ergooyin badan oo ka qeybgalay shirkii dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed ayaa markii shirkaas la soo gebagebeeyay waxay sheegeen in aan la siinin dhaqaale loo ballanqaaday, halka qaar kalena ay sheegeen in la siiyay lacag ka yar tii ay sugayeen. Xildhibaan Maxamed Qanyare Afrax oo ka mid ah Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ayaa sheegay in lacag dhan 8 Milyan oo Doollar oo loogu talaglay shirkaas in uu lunsaday Guddigii shirka maamulayay, isagoo ku baaqay in dabagal lagu sameeyo sidii loo maamulay dhaqaalahaas. Ugu dambeyntiina, Hadalka uu maanta sii daayay Wasiirka Dib u heshiisiinta iyo Jaaliyadaha Maxamed Cabdi Xayir Maareeye ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo seddexda mas’uul ee ugu sareysa Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya ay sheegeen in uu guul ku dhamaaday Shirkii Dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed, iyadoo dhowr boqol oo ka mid ah Ergooyinkii shirkaas ka qeybgalayna la geeyay Masjidka Xaramka, iyadoo sababta halkaas loo geeyayna ay ahayd in ay soo ballanqaadaan in ay fulinayaan heshiisyadii shirkaas lagu gaaray. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

Originally posted by -: Godkii Jilacow baa maqli jiray.. Yes it is the man.