Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: and you don't? know thats really a joke. Come to hargeisa but don't go to Muqdishu. will hand you the ONLF fighters who have done nothing to hargeisa but the tfg can't ask for ethio help to fight terrorist in muqdishu. we get you argument, plain and clear but i think your only fooling yourself. In others words are you admitting that the TFG is sucking up to the Ethiois just as the SL government is doing so.. JB, it is a government within a government as the author indicated. Something has to be done to stop the mayhem these groups initiate and perpetrate using crowded population as their main weapons. Caamir both the the idea 'they are terrorists' and 'they are using women and children as shields' are by now over used and cheap rhetoric. And it is not big secret that Mr.Hiraad is a fan of TFG, if he was not he would have pointed out the other clan hegemony that could spiral the current situation into unpredictable scenario. But typical of him and those that find his writing stimulating they have only short term objectives.

^^ Wa xaley dhaley...!

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: ^These passports are far from 'Xabashi' passports...They are the real deal... In what sense, please if you dont mind explaining? Bearing in mind the old one is still accepted in all Gulf countries and most African countries while this new E-passport is outrightly rejected pre-print.

Loooooooooooooooooooooooool....! Potential Buyer: Whether E-passport or not it is still not valid as the original one.

Originally posted by me: Hahahhaahahha hey its a posibility. Juje shall we market you as one of those Looooooooooooooooooool......! Ama la iga badhsa saxiibo.

Originally posted by me: We have had a geeljire, a vet and now a poet. Habashidu maxay keeni doonan kan ka dib. Mid gabdhaha guda..

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^lool. Xub-sired is right now in Mogadishu, funny how he aint threatend by that incident. As for your leaders the clowns are talking from Asmara making threats while they ran away in safety. Awalba beenta kama xishoon jiriin - xub-baqti aya Xamar jooga ma laso shir tagtey - hadu joogana Tigre dabadiisa ayu ku jira.

Originally posted by General Duke: Adeer its your new project plan to use the dead women and children as a badge to hide behind. They were being used as human shilds and those who sent bombs and placed land mines in their midst, killed civilian officials and retired old men. Should not know preach about the dead women and children. Horta aniga adeer ha ii dhihiin, baqti aya adeer ku ahe. Secondly , where did you pick that word from 'shield' - dare I say from the masters of your masters. yes you are right there wil be a quick conclussion - and it certainly wont be something that will make the 'dabakadhilfyo Inc.' happy. Keep on being joyful at the dead and misery of the people for it would be followed by tears.

Duke waxan ku oran laha isku xishow, but unfortunately God has not given you the ability to do that. You could have not gone any lower than you are now - displaying victory at the dead of women and children. And on another level 'damir-laawe' please tell me nearly a year now what has Ethiopia and the dabadhilifs achieved in Xamar in taking control - basically next to nothing. For one year you could not even tilt their existance let alone run them over. keep on cheering from the side lines cause once the Ethiopians are done with - it will be your turn. And mark my words. Looters Inc. has been replaced by 'dabakadhilifyo and doofaro Inc.. And everyone knows who is worst in society among the two.

Originally posted by General Duke: As for the threats you are making, why then cry and hold demo's when your fighters are beaten? Lol! You are loosing the plot. Fighters, indeed. Well his fighters are fihting the Ethiopians, where are yours - licking the Ethiopian as*es I bet. The latest fighting began Thursday, when Ethiopian soldiers tried to retrieve the body of a comrade killed in earlier skirmishes and dragged through the streets of the capital, witnesses said. The bodies of 34 people, among them four women and six Ethiopians, were found in the northern and southern parts of Mogadishu, where fighting was intense a day earlier, witnesses said. This is from NY Times And that is where his fighters are - and if you think by killing women and children he is defeated then you have something else coming. But then again waxaad la mid tahey hablaha dhinacyada ka buranburaya and thus just keep on with your alalas you will be ruled by the winner of the outcome.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: Dukow, ha uu bixin dowladdiikan. This qabiil , that qabiil. if ur ignorant enough to belief that an entire government and the ethios are fighting a qabiil ur the sick minded qabiilist. This has nothing to do with a qabiil and you and your kind will get no were while you ignore the problems we have but decide to talk about non-existent problems. or do really want a qabiil to qabiil war, i think thats what they want duke. Ethinka rer ama qabiil maskaxda ethanka qabsaday uu daarsan. Akee to Akee kulaha. If you don't have the weopans, just don't go to war. Thruth of the matter is all these dowladiids are just that, fighting either for anarchy, bililiqo, qabiil and barbarism like dragging dead bodies through the streets. if you ask me, after this "resistance" is put down, that entire city should be sent to the country side for daqan celis. Qabiil adu ka buuxa oo weliba kaso ura - dhaforka ayu kaga qoran yahey. You say 'dowladiid'. Where is the bloody dowlaad yu are talking about when people are being slaughtered, not shot or gunned down BUT SLAUGHTERED. You are in a joyous mood Naxar and your comments are bloody pathetic. But rest asurred Xamar will never be under the total control of wayaanas and their dabakadhilifs - never. Kill people or not , Inshallah it will be resisted. And their trust is with Allah SWT. Look at the pics of those that were killed and tell me whether those childrens and women were 'dowladiid'. Ufa Caleek.

Originally posted by General Duke: khooxdii muqawamadda maanta laga dhigay wax dhinta iyo wax laqabtay - nasiib darase ay tahay meydkoodii aay ku tilmaaman inuu yahay kuwa dowladda Can you please give us a source to this 'wonderful ' title by your standard. Cheap little bas*tard they are ayaga iyo kuwa so xigtaba.

Originally posted by Baashi: My heart goes out to the civilian and innocent residents paying the ultimate price. I do oppose Ethiopia. I am for defeating the Tigre forces. But I don't see a viable plan of doing that. Negotiated settlement is the in interest of the people on the ground. Any decent Somali who has the interest of his fellow Muslims at heart wants to end this prolonged conflict first. You are hung up of who says what without even examining the substance of what's being suggested. Hear hear..!

^^ Good , then he has the same qualifications as the rest of the TFG - hence he qualifies for the job.

Somalia: "Humpty Dumpty Has Fallen Off the Wall" 6 November 2007 Nadja Drost New York Every day that gun shots ring through a Mogadishu neighbourhood, every week that an explosion rips homes into plumes of dust, and every month that thousands of civilians flee the capital, Somalia plunges deeper into crisis. Last week's resignation of Ali Mohamed Gedi, the country's prime minister, is the latest shake-up in a chronology of political turmoil in the Horn of Africa state, and was viewed by many as yet another indication that the Transitional Federal Government is not in control. Gedi stepped down after weeks of tensions in the administration and an ongoing power struggle with the president, Abdullai Yusuf Ahmed. The stalemate that resulted is now broken, but that doesn't mean the government has become functional -- nor does it make Somalia's prospects for stability any less distant. "The international community should recognise that Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall and Humpty Dumpty is not going to get back on," said Peter Pham, director of the Nelson Institute for International and Public Affairs at James Madison University in the eastern U.S. state of Virginia, referring to the Somali government. The administration is riven by internal divisions and wounded by a dogged insurgency made up of Islamists, clan-based militia and other opponents of the government. Analysts agree that the transitional government is not working; but alternatives will largely depend on the strength of the insurgency, the role of other countries, and the willingness of warring factions to negotiate with one another. Longstanding difficulties The administration's dismal prospects for survival aren't surprising. Set up in 2004, the Transitional Federal Government is the fourteenth attempt at an interim Somali authority since the collapse of the Siad Barre regime in 1991. Since then, warlords, rival factions and militia have competed to fill the power vacuum. When the Supreme Council of Islamic Courts rose to defeat Mogadishu warlords and take over the capital in June 2006, the United States and Ethiopia became concerned over possible links between the courts and Islamic extremists such as those within the Al-Qaeda terrorist network. In December 2006, Somali and U.S.-backed Ethiopian forces ousted the courts from power, but did not manage to destroy them. The Ethiopian intervention provoked some of the worst fighting Mogadishu had experienced in 16 years, according to observers. Targeted assassinations and insurgent attacks have become an almost daily occurrence, Human Rights Watch reported. As Somalis are displaced -- renewed fighting has caused 90,000 to flee Mogadishu over recent days, according to the U.N. Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs -- and drought spreads across much of the country, aid agencies cannot respond properly to an escalating humanitarian crisis. Meanwhile, the Western-backed government struggles to preserve its tenuous hold over Mogadishu. Experts agree the current government is widely distrusted and unpopular among most Somalis. "The fact that the Transitional Federal Government was dependent on the Ethiopians destroyed the chance of them ever winning any support from most Somalis," said Richard Cornwell, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Security Studies in South Africa. "It basically became the Vichy government of Somalia." Dominated by the president's ***** clan, the authority fails to represent the diversity of the Somali people. As a result, it has lost potential backers to the rebels, said Pham. The result is that the government, Ethiopian troops, and a small contingent of African Union Mission forces are confronted with an insurgency that is increasing in numbers and fervour. The very presence of foreigners carrying guns has served to radicalise opposition groups. "Once the intervention (comes), as you'll find all over the world, the more moderate people withdraw after a loss, and the hardcore people keep going," said Michael Weinstein, a professor of political science at Purdue University in the mid-eastern U.S. state of Indiana. "The U.S. created a nightmare by backing this intervention." The outcome is a rebel movement that shows no sign of backing down. But what the insurgency gains in strength and determination, it lacks in cohesion and the potential to engage in a political process. "The only thing that unites the insurgency is hatred of the TNG (transitional national government)," Pham remarked. "If they toppled the TNG, they'd fall onto themselves." Recent talks failed to bring the opposition and the government any closer to negotiations. And, a September meeting in Eritrea did not produce any consensus among members of the Somali opposition alliance, said Cardwell. Furthermore, at a highly anticipated national reconciliation conference held by the interim government at the urging of Western donors in Mogadishu in August, reconciliation was not even a remote possibility, according to Pham. The August conference had difficulty even starting: moderate Islamists boycotted the event, stating that it was not in a neutral venue, and militias attacked the conference building with mortar fire on the opening day. "What happened at the conference was the current transitional national government invited 1,500 of their best friends to come and collect a per diem that the international community was paying," said Pham. "And they were almost all from the same sub-clans and to the exclusion of others." Life in parliament these days is not quite so cozy, however. In September, the chief supreme court justice was arrested on charges of siphoning 800,000 dollars of United Nations Development Fund aid. Rifts between parliamentarians along clan-based lines have widened. Over 20 ministers called for a vote of no confidence in the prime minister in the weeks prior to his resignation. The recent debates shaking parliament have further undermined confidence in the government's competence. "Given the splits...I don't see that it's sustainable," said Cornwell. "I think we'll see more haemorrhaging of support away from the transitional federation government." A government that has spiraled into dysfunction makes for a challenging situation for a donor country like the United States which, according to analysts, has not held the Somali authorities to any measures of progress. "They're backed in a corner," Weinstein said of U.S. officials. "They've made it such that there's nobody else they can deal with...they put all their chips on the transitional national government." Central government essential? Perhaps more problematic than the failure of this particular government is the very idea of a national Somali administration, several analysts say. The international community needs to come to terms with this, they add. "Until the Somalis themselves pull this together, this attempt to recognise national governments just leads to a self-defeating winner-takes-all scramble," Pham said. Several analysts believe Somalia's government should be devolved into smaller clan-based units, reflecting the way society was organised before independence. That way, they say, stability can be secured at the local level first, and then the regional level. Pham admitted that the idea of dispensing with central government would be difficult for international actors to accept, but said they had to be realistic about the limitations of the situation in Somalia: "It's time to stop wishing something into being that obviously is not going to happen." However, Sam Zarifi -- Washington advocate at Human Rights Watch -- believes the moment is ripe for forming a different type of administration. "I can imagine a situation where many of the same people who are in this transitional national government establish a peaceful coexistence and ruling arrangement with some members of the Islamic courts union, for instance," he said. A third party like the United Nations should play a role in bringing actors together to negotiate a power-sharing arrangement, Zarifi added. But any type of discussions will have to confront complex regional interests. The claim to the Somali-inhabited Ogoden region of Ethiopia has been the source of past wars between Ethiopia and Somalia, for example, and continues to resurface. According to the United Nations Monitoring Group on Somalia, Eritrea has supplied arms to Somali insurgents to attack Ethiopians, an enemy common to both the insurgency and Eritrea. As such, Somalia serves as a proxy battleground for the border dispute between Eritrea and Ethiopia. According to Pham, enforcement of the U.N. arms embargo on Somalia is a first step to stem the flow of arms from Eritrea. "The two countries (Ethiopia and Eritrea) are spiraling closer to war again," he said, adding that what happened between Eritrea and Ethiopia would greatly influence Somalia's prospects for peace. "If a conventional war is going to break out there, which could well happen, then all bets are off." SOURCE: Inter Press Service, November 6, 2007

Well at least that is what he thinks. Man sets sights on Somali premiership MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - For years, Abdurahman Ali Osman worked behind the scenes on creating Somalia's fragile government. Now he wants to lead it. The St. Paul man is among a handful of Somalis in line to become prime minister in Somalia, where the premier stepped down last week amid growing violence after losing a power struggle. "I am confident that I am someone who can produce change in a peaceful way," Osman said this week, just days before he planned to leave for the southern Somali city of Baidoa, home of an interim government that was formed in 2004 with hopes of ending a civil war that began in 1991. As many as 60,000 Somalis have found refuge in Minnesota, including many of the country's elite, who for years have shuttled between the Twin Cities and Somalia as part of efforts to form a stable and lasting government there. Their hope is that the country will become stable enough for them to return for good someday. Osman helped negotiate as clans vied for power in the temporary government and once worked as a political adviser to the former prime minister, Ali Mohamed Gedi. President Abdullahi Yusuf must name a successor within 30 days of Gedi's resignation, giving Osman just weeks to make his case. Dahir Jibreel of Minneapolis, who worked as Yusuf's chief of staff for more than two years until returning to Minnesota, said Osman is one of six or seven people Yusuf is considering for the job. Jibreel said the next prime minister must have the support of not only Yusuf but also the United States, the U.N., the European Union and neighboring countries such as Ethiopia. Osman is also from the Geedi's clan from which Yusuf wants to choose a successor, Jibreel said. "By this criteria, Abdurahman scores high," he said. Osman said the country must be secure, reconcile its political factions and address growing humanitarian needs. "Sixteen years of civil war is too long and needs to be settled, but we need the help of the international community," he said. Osman's reputation suffered a blow when he went to work as a spokesman for the Council of Islamic Courts, an Islamist militia that took power across much of southern Somalia last year before being ousted. Remnants of the militia continue to fight on, and thousands of civilians have been killed. Osman said he cast his lot with the group because he believed it would be moderate and bring badly needed stability to the country. The Islamists also overthrew the hated warlords who ran Mogadishu. However, after the organization was widely blamed for the murder of a Swedish journalist and other atrocities, Osman quit his post. "This is wrong," he recalled thinking. "This is not Islam." Even so, Osman's connections with the secular government and the moderate forces within religious groups could help his cause, Jibreel said. "Whoever becomes prime minister has to have credentials of creating good reconciliation among Somalis, and he has some affiliation, or background, with religious groups and can use that as leverage in bringing some of them on board - the moderates, not the radicals," Jibreel said. He added: "So, from my perspective, however awkward that was, it could be a positive point for him." Osman, a U.S. citizen, came to the United States in 1983, graduated from Sacramento State and eventually moved to Minnesota in 1999 to be near relatives of his wife, Saido Hassan, a St. Paul nurse. In Minnesota, he has worked as a business consultant, a consultant to the city of St. Paul and Ramsey County and as an interpreter for the state Supreme Court. His life in the Somali diaspora has also led to stays in Kenya, Djibouti, Malaysia and other countries. "In terms of experience, I am someone who understands the global view," he said. "I see the suffering in Somalia and then I come back to Minnesota and see how things are functioning - how things work. And I get a little jealous about it." SOURCE: AP, November 7, 2007

^^ Looooooooooooooool

Banaanbax ka dhan ah ciidamada Ethiopia oo maanta ka dhacay Muqdisho Mogadishu 07, Nov. 07 ( Sh.M.Network)- Dibadbax looga soo horjeeday joogitaanka ciidamda Ethiopia ee dalka Somalia iyo dilalka ay geeysanayaan ayaa maanta ka dhacay wadada 30ka ee Magaalada Muqdisho Dad gaaraya boqolaal ruux oo isugu jira caruur, haween watayna boorar ay ku asteeysanaayeen erayo ka dhan ah Ciidamda Ethiopia ee ku sugan dalka Somalia ayaa maanta isgu soo baxay xaafadaha ku teedsan wadada 30ka. Dibadbaxayaasha ayaa socodkooda ka bilaabay isgooyska Carwa Idko waxa ayna socdeen illaa warshadii hore ee Caanaha iyagoo gubayayna Taayero kuna qeeylinayay ereyo ka dhan ah howl-galada ciidamda Ethiopia ee ay ka fulinayeen qeeybo ka mida xaafadaha gobolka banaadir iyo dilalka arxan darada ah ee ay geeysanayaan. Guud ahaan waxaa hakad la galiyay isku socodka gaadiidka ee wadadaasi intii ay ka socdeen dibad baxyada si loo xakameeyo qaab sami u socodka banaanbaxaasi. Dibadbaxyada ka dhan ah ciidamda Ethiopia iyo kuwa dowladda Somalia ayaa waxaa ay ku soo beegmayaan xili maamulka gobolka Banaadir uu soo saaray wareegto ay ku mamnuucayaan qabashada isku soo bax aan maxkamada gobolka banaadir looga heeysan ogolaashiyo in uu ka dhaco Magaalada Muqdisho. Sidoo kale waxa ay ku soo beegamayaan banaanbaxyadaan xilli maalmihii la soo dhaafay magaalada Muqdisho lagu arkay meydadka dad kor u dhaafaya 8 ruux oo intooda badan ay dileen ciidamada Ethiopia.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Of course I may be wrong but since the author deleted the photo you'll just have to trust me on this. Nice try, you just want to find out what it was all about sxb.

Originally posted by Emperor: ^Absolutely purely because he's the President of my country, I have that much respect for the republic and conqsequently I doubt whether it would have been the same for you had 'Carfaaye' been sitting on that seat.

Originally posted by Emperor: Why don't you just spit it out, Odaga at the top is the whole reason for the never ending insomnia... Insomnia-da unbaad iskala qabsan mar hadii mid kale laguugu sii daro Loooooooooool! And it will not be wrong to assume that the old man at the top is the one putting a smile in your face.

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: Regarding last month's conflict in Sool, the Ambassador said, "according to Somaliland, its defence forces were attacked and in self-defence, repulsed, the attackers and this was when, according to Somaliland, that its forces took control of Las Anod". Source: Somaliland Times So the big bully i on the side of the S/landers ? Which is evidently something that makes you ecstatic JB.

Originally posted by Emperor: ^Good to see you reporting the decisions reached by the TFG and the Somali Parliament. I hope we can see that light at the end of the tunnel. Light...lool! Have you joined the jehovah witness sxb? Reporting indeed, but only how the TFG are fcuking up that is all. What is the new PM whether he is brought from Indochina or even further going to do that Geedi has not already done? This TFG is a mess and unrepresentative it shgould be revamped from bottom to top, starting from the chimpamzes in Baydhabo to the old octogenerian.

A resident of Djibouti, clearly ecstatic with the announcement.

Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya oo isku raacay in Ra’iisal Wasaaraha cusub iyo Xukuumadda uu soo dhisayo laga keeni karo karo baarlamaanka gudahiisa iyo Dibaddiisa Arbaco, November 07, 2007(HOL): Kulan ay Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliyeed ku lahaayeen Xaruntiisa KMG ah ee ADC-da ayaa wuxuu soo gebageboobay goor dhaweyd, iyadooo ay Mudanayaasha isku raaceen go’aanno ka soo baxay Shirkii Dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed oo uu ku jiro qodob ku saabsanaa in la soo dhiso Xukuumad ay xubnaheeda ka imaanayaan Baarlamaanka gudahiisa iyo dibaddiisa. Kulankii maanta oo ay fadhiyeen Xildhibaano gaaraya 226 Mudane, isla markaana uu shir guddoominayay Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shiikh Aadan Madoobe ayaa lagu soo waramayaa in ay Xildhibaanada inta badan isku raaceen Go’aannadii ka soo baxay shirkii Dib u heshiisiinta, iyadoo Xildhibaanno ka soo horjeeday go’aannadaasna ay u tanaasuleen kuwa taageersanaa. Go’aannada la ansixiyay ee ka soo baxay Shirkii Dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed ayaa waxaa ku jira qodob muhiim u ah in la soo magacaabo Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya, kaasi oo Beesha Caalamka, Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Aqoonyahanka Soomaaliyeed ay si weyn u daneynayaan in uu ka yimaado Baarlamaanka dibaddiisa bacdamaa mudadii sedexda sano ahayd ee ay jirtay Dowladda Federaalka ay xubnaha Xukuumadda ka imaanayeen Baarlamaanka gudahiisa. Go’aankan uu maanta gaaray Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ayaa wuxuu meesha ka saarayaa qodob ku qornaa Axdi Qarameedka oo dhigayay in Xubnaha gelaya Xukuumadda ay ka yimaadaan Baarlamaanka gudahiisa, iyadoo taasina ay keentay in ay xubnaha Wasiirada noqda ay mar kale yihiin Xildhibaano ay adag tahay in Xukuumaddooda lala xisaabtamo. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed ayaa maalmaha soo socda laga dhowrayaa in uu soo magacaabo Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Soomaaliya, iyadoo ay jiraan musharixiin u badan Aqoonyahanno Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya dibadda ka jooga, kuwaasi oo isu soo taagay in ay xilkaas qabtaan. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia