This story does not make sense. EU was already paying for the salaries of the MP's since the formation of the TFG parliament . Why should it be news now?

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: quote:Originally posted by Emperor: ^Aha, Even Somali singers attended emperor, The fact that the name of this woman doesn't match her gender I still have to ask you what is wrong with this name ? She has a sex change and is still working on the name change, what is your problem?

^^^ If you mean Ambassador Dhamancad - he is technically the VP for Gal-Mudug but has been absent since late 2006.

First and foremost it was wrong for Yeey to question the Somalism of Mowliid Macane - and for that we are judging on the HornAfrik interview by Mowliid. Cause none of us were there and can actually prove that Yeey made those remarks. But we give Mowlid the benfit of doubt - cause Yeey is capable of making such cheap and derogatory remarks and lacks the sound mind to stir away from it. However having said that it an err for MMA to do the same as Yeey did and question the Somalism of Yeey - unless we can put MMA in the same category as Yeey - which is ignorant octogenarian fool. Cause by ridiculing the ancestry line of one you are at the same time ridiculing thousands of others.

Dr.Galbeyte sxb welcome, yes indeed Gal-Mudug is a good example and something that was needed a long time ago. Nevertheless its creation it is better for the inhabitants of the region and am sure more could have been done since its innovation. The same mistake that led to its lateness in creation is the root to its lack of progress now. The fact that big fat politician wannabes living in Western Europe and North America demanding to be part of the essential political structure of Gal-Mudug is destroying its fabrics and testing its continuation to exist as a regional government. The cabinet and most members of the regional government's parliament are in London, USA, and other parts - and have not ever returned there ever since been appointed. You will find the minister for finance in South West London , the president and the interior minister are in Minni, participating in events celebrating the creation of Gal-Mudug State though it has been in existance for over a year now. Hence my point - if you want something done involve and give responsibility the local inhabitants instead of dissidents who live in outer space and would appreciate to be called MP's and run their restaurants in nort London. Since the tenure of the current acting president Cabdi/Sammad a lot has been done. New schools, wells,collection of tax, security and most important of all creating an environment for NGO's to function - such as governance at both village and district level. This has bee achieved over the eight months because the locals have empowered them selves under the authority created by the diaspora community who have since gone awl. Therefore Dr.Galbeyte if you can gather around the other 'doctors' from Gal-Mudug and actually decide to go there and stay there - something viable, valuable and visible can be done.

Originally posted by A.J.: I dont know what makes you think Somaliland is willing to do anything that is asked of it in return for international recognition. you seem to suggest that if the US helps Somaliland then Somaliland will become america's 'errand boy'. Nothing that Somaliland has done so far suggest somaliland will do anything that harms its sovereignty and indepedence to make its own decision. Ay.! You have short memory sxb. The many things S/land has done for Ethiopia in pursuance of recognition is countless - the outstanding one is apprehending and exraditing hundreds of Somalis on the presumptions that they are criminals who committed crimes in Ethiopia. The expelling of journalist from the south of the border recently itself was the job of an errand-boy. And that was only for Ethiopia. Hence I believe it is an achievement if you get the same status with the US of A. - so don't be ashamed of it. Though on the other hand a recognition is a far fetched ambition for an errand boy. An invitation to a seminar in US, and the odd mention of S/.land in PM questions time by a back-bencher MP in the Commons should not raise your hopes.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Bashi which warlords are you talking about within the TFG? Was there ever time during the life of the TFG the warlords who combined to form it were transformed and elevated to sainthood.

Originally posted by General Duke: Its great news, now the cabinet will function and we are on the move. Baburkada dibilihi Ruushka waka daran yahey, it has been on the move for the last four years - yet static.

Originally posted by Emperor: I thnk ot's way too tale to analyse and discuss about this right now... Ayaadi alif-wax maleh ka halowda Al-Baqra kama tosto.

Originally posted by Emperor: ^Riyaale was the former head of the notorious spies called NSS, the most feared element ever existed in Somalia, an element that employed the worst kind and the most evil tactics of torture hardly used in the world... in Riyaale's time as the Cheif commander of this wicked organisation ordaniry Somalis were buried alive by doubting Aabe Siyaad let alone critise his rule... By mis-interpreting the facts about past history will only look like that you are spinning the story to suit your accusation - hence irrelevant. Riyale was not NSS - try Hangash then you will probably sound lil authentic.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: .Does a TFG supporter have a reason to protest Riyale arrival? No, in fact big NO.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: Riyale has blood on his hands? Explain By asking this question you probably thought the guy would take you back to the recent Sool triumph - but see if this would help. Delve the mass graves in Jazeera - and in there you will find many innocent and brilliant young Somalis brutally murdered and the finger prints on their body will lead you back to Riyaale. Defend the need, reasons and the circumstances for S/land to secede - but never ever doubt Riyale's role in Somali genocide saga.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: I don't think unification is on the table either. Indeed, cause it is not under threat.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: Exactly...Everybody is out for their own interest. Yep, but one interest will eclipse the other - and on a real note I don't think recognition is on the table.

The S/land recognition currently is gaining strong momentum and publicity not by the actual fact that it is on the brink of International recognition but purely on the basis that the idea is now used as a political lever by C/llahi Yusuf's many political foes. Hence it is misleading because the neo-secessionist lack the sincerity and authenticity of their new found cause.

In the first interview since these clashes started one of the prime leaders of Shabab, Aden Hashi Ceyrow, declared that humanatarian agencies staff are also targets insisting that you were agents for the grand 'kaffir'.Thus their elimination was part of the war acording to him. But this latest press by the Shabab spokesman, Abu Mansur, has changed direction and humanatarian workers be local or international are no longer within the firing range of Shabab militias. Much relieve to the thousands who need aid. I hope they become more lenient and refrain from targeting and killing newly appointed 'gudomiyayaal degmo'. Well it is a start we will get there Inshallah. Xarakada Al-shabaab oo sheegay in ayan waxyeelo u geysan doonin shaqaalaha ajnabiga ah ee hey’adaha samafalka ka howlgala Dalka Soomaaliya Mogadishu 09 Jan. 07 (Sh.M.Network)-Sheekh Mukhtaar Roobow Abuu-Mansuur oo ah Afhayeenka Al-shabaab ee dagaalada adag kula jira ciidamada Ethiopia iyo kuwa dowladda Soomaaliya ee ku sugan Dalka Somalia ayaa sheegay in xarakadoodada ayan bar tilmaameedsan doonin shaqaalaha Ajanibta ah iyo kuwa Somalida ah ee la shaqeeynaya hay’adaha sama falka ee gar gaaraya dadka dhibaateeysan ee soomaalied oo aysan wax colaaad ah u qabin. Sheikh oo shabelle u waramayay ayaa intaa ku daray in cida kaliya ee ay beegsanayaan ay tahay ciidamada Itoobiya iyo kuwa DF ee isku beheeystay waxyeelada ummada Soomaaliyeed waa sida uu hadalka u dhiga sheikhee Sheekh mukhtaar Roobow Abuu Mansuur oo la weeydiiyay waxa ka jira in ay ururkooda ay ka saareen sheikh Yuusuf Maxamed Siyaad (Indhacade) oo dhawaanah shaacineeysay shabakad ay internetka ku leeyihiin ururka Alshabaab oo la yiraah Al Mujaahid ayuu ka gaabsaday waxaan u sheegay in xili danbe uu ka jawaabi doono arintaasi. Hadalka ka soo yeeray sheikha ayaa waxaa uu keenayaa in shaqaale fara badan oo ka baqanayay dhibaato kaga timaada dhankooda in ay ku soo dhiiradaan dalka si ay wax ugu qabtaan dadka dhibaayesan ee Somalied. Sh, M network 09 Jan 08, 08:47

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......! Wax walan.

Originally posted by General Duke: Juje one has to be pragmatic. If Yusuf is the excuse then who would satisfy the public? Your pragmatism raises doubts sxb. How is the old man fairing Duke?

Originally posted by Fahiye: KIKUYU= D Block huh! Good..! You are exactly at where Bashi wanted to lead people.

Cajiib...! Wale waxba salagleh...! Duke, Emperor et al talking about post-Yusuf. "On a serious note though, anyone who knows sida xayawaanada loola dhaqmo gets my vote" LOL, why do you think the president appionted Ghedi? So that he could cure him , and Geedi failed.

Suldaan, horta ha iga xanaqiin ileen xanaaqada wuu ii dhiba. Secondly in regards to the passports you are being more emotional than rational. And thirdly , you are right Riyaale booked in advance and Yeey did it in the elenventh hour, but rest assured he was not on a wheel chair.

For once I thought this was April 1st. But then again they were on the same plane which will be the catalyst to all rumours. I expect many to come.

Somalia's forgotten victims of America's 'war on terror' Andreas Rologas January 7, 2008 WHO doesn't know about the 2 million Iraqi refugees huddled in the streets of Damascus or Amman? Or the other 2 million internally displaced Iraqis forced to seek sanctuary within Iraq? Yet who knows the number of displaced people being added to the "war on terror's" bitter harvest in Somalia? Somalia, unlike Afghanistan, is not just another forgotten war; Somalia is an invisible war. It has become a war that, for large parts of the world, doesn't even exist. Since the "war on terror" disembarked on the shores of Somalia, the capital Mogadishu has not seen a day's peace. Thousands of civilians have been killed as the United States-backed Government and the Ethiopian military battle the deposed Council of Islamic Courts and its allies. Somalia's recent descent into violence began when the CIC, backed by small businessmen, traders and merchants — and, according to their enemies, Eritrea and al-Qaeda — set out to return order to Mogadishu by challenging the various warlords who for more than a decade have terrorised the population of Mogadishu and surrounds. By mid-February 2006 the usually quarrelsome warlords became so worried by this challenge to their anarchic order that they formed a united front. The warlords — ever attuned to Washington's antennas — denounced the CIC as merely an al-Qaeda shop window, giving sanctuary to wanted al-Qaeda militants — a charge consistently denied by the CIC leadership. It was, as the warlords well knew, all Washington needed to hear to start shovelling arms in their direction. And so the misery began. Yet, despite American and Ethiopian arms, the warlords couldn't defeat their foes as most of the population had long ago sided with the CIC. So, on June 5, 2006, the CIC took complete control of the capital. They quickly brought a level of peace and security not seen for decades. They also tried reassuring the Europeans and Americans that they were not out to build an Islamic state, while some of its more zealous elements passed their time by trying to clamp down on supposed Western vices such as music and cinema. Washington had received a bloody nose, yet the Americans weren't done yet. The relative peace was to be short-lived. The embers had barely begun to die down in the capital when Ethiopian troops and tanks began conducting "incursions" into Somalia to support the Transitional Federal Government stationed in Baidoa. The TFG, which was set up in 2004 under UN tutelage, had always been weak and since its creation marginalised by the warlords. The hardliners within the CIC responded to these provocations by threatening a military "jihad" against Ethiopia if the troops didn't leave. By late October the Ethiopian Prime Minister, Meles Zenawi, was announcing that his country was "technically at war" with the CIC. The inevitable would come to pass, on Christmas Eve 2006. US-backed Ethiopian troops launched their own "pre-emptive" strike in the name of the "war on terror" into southern Somalia. The objective: to parachute the TFG, littered with many of the previously defeated warlords, into Mogadishu to replace the CIC. In the face of overwhelming firepower the Islamists, encouraged by allied clans, retreated without much of a fight. By early January, Mogadishu would fall to the Ethiopian military. A few days later the American hand in the invasion became overt when an AC130 gunship blasted some supposed "al-Qaeda militants" fleeing the capital. Witnesses would later relate that perhaps 70 or so nomads were blown away instead. No comprehensive investigation has ever been set up to ascertain the truth. Mission accomplished? Towards the end of January last year, a triumphant Zenawi announced the removal of 200 troops from Somalia as the first part of a complete withdrawal. This would be his equivalent of George Bush's "mission accomplished" moment over Iraq. By April 2007, an Iraq-style insurgency was well under way. Ethiopia, rather than reducing its troop presence, has increased it. It is believed that during the April fighting more than 200,000 people fled Mogadishu alone. Many thousands more have since joined them as attacks against the Ethiopian military and the TFG increased. According to a report from the UNHCR in November, "60% of the population, or some 600,000 people, are believed to have fled from the lawless Somali capital, Mogadishu, since February". The "war on terror" has become one of the biggest instruments for displacing people in the world today, yet the emptying of 60% of the population of Mogadishu has barely registered outside Africa. Condoleezza Rice, on a recent visit to Ethiopia, reportedly called for a "ceasefire agreement". So after encouraging the invasion and actively arming the disgraced warlords, the US now seeks to broker peace. But the US will only talk to "moderates". In a recent interview with Der Spiegel, the chairman of the Islamic courts, Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed — who is considered a moderate — was asked why he doesn't call a ceasefire: "I'm powerless to do that. The popular uprising against the hated Ethiopian occupation troops — which every Somali patriot must see as his enemies — can't be stopped." The occupation, by Somalia's long-time adversary Ethiopia, has heralded predictable results. It has created thousands of orphans, hundreds of thousands of refugees, and only increased the misery of this blighted land. The "international community" must call for a complete withdrawal of Ethiopian troops, followed by encouraging negotiations between the TFG, the clans of the south and the CIC. The world is not listening to Somalia's screams under the boot of the war on terror, or if it is, does not seem to care. SOURCE: The age, January 06, 2008

It is not rumour sxb, it is true. As your S/land ambasaador to Ireland ( the mini cab driver) he will tell you. The same person also confirmed that President Yeey embarked from the plane unassisted and to him looked like a normaly healthy person.

Originally posted by Suldaanka: The President and his entourage have arrived in London on Somaliland Diplomatic Passports . Indeed, he did arrive in London true though I doubt whether he arrived with that passport. The other twist in the story is that he was on the same plane as President Yusuf