Exceptionally impressive. It is individuals such as Luul that are the glowing light of hope for this nation. Masha Allah. Allah uu kordhiyo aqoonteda cajar iyo xasnad Allah ka siiyo howsha ay hada wado..amiin!

Who is misleading who - when one claims to be part of a future government that is not even on paper yet. Yes I very much agree with you that Gal-Mudug does not need the recognition of the current TFG - but for this TFG to exist as a federal government and function as one it needs regional administrative bodies as its base - which of course Gal-Mudug is one of them. Hence the reliance might be greater one than the other, but by all means one cannot dismiss the other and vice versa. Therefore, Datoore, how ever much you detest the structure and ethics of this TFG it is an entity internationally recognized as a 'national' government of Somalia. Thus you cannot have an regional government within Somalia and claim that you have nothing to do with the TFG. Unless of course you are seceding like S/land. TFG is not the final solution and of course it will come to an end. I will rather have Gal-Mudug being part of the machinery of change rather than standing outside until the change happens and claim to be part of that new structure when it is formed - which might be to late. Galbeyte the new strategy of war in Somalia is not 'ana lan-dheer ah iyo ana ka mooryan iyo gandheri badan'- it is the art of diplomacy and tact. I hope we dont loose out saxiib.

Originally posted by General Duke: lool. the corrupt governemnt, adeer its the onlyone you have. Unfortunately very true, and very alarming when even Duke 'tags' it as corrupt government.

Very impressive indeed - there is a lot going on in there at the moment. Galbeyte sxb no need to shy away. Tell JB it is the Gaalkacyo that comes under Gal-Mudug which is part of the Federal government of Somalia.

Yes, if they start with the first step and get it right.

Originally posted by me: ^You remind me of alle-u-baahane. I mean is anyone suprised that the secessionists would try to use the missery of these people as a PR stunt? Remmember they are the orphans of the queen and they where the ones commomorating dead colonials and saying that the colonial oppressors were heroes. You have taken it bit far sxb, should have stopped at the 'PR' tag. This thread after all was started by JB who has gone on the publicity stunt since Riyale's mis-fortune encounters. Qaxooti or displaced in Hargeysa I couldnt care less apart than thanking the governance and people of Hargeisa for giving safe haven to the hundred fleeing the misery of Mogadishu. So it is gratitude that should come first rather than scorning. Anybody figured why they went to Hargeysa rather than Bosaso?

List Somalia's major obstacles in becoming a proper functioning state 1)Abdullahi Yusuf 2)Abdullahi Yusuf 3)Abdullahi Yusuf 4)Abdullahi Yusuf . . . . 100) Abdullahi Yusuf

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: I wouldn't call that name anyone from Somalia ,,,, nobody expected that Muqdisho will one day refuge to Hargeisa though Are you sure, even those from Hargeysa?

^^ War maka aad gabeyga iyo buranburka isku dari jirtey. It is simply : Nuuer Caade owes his political existance to Yeey - thus the latter has the last words - making the former utterly irrelevant. No one is talking about the TFG,maddobe,nation or anything else. You made that remark do you still agree or do you want to change it?

^^^ Ila hada biniadan caadi ah ayan ka hadleyney - so go and take your monster somewhere else sxb

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Even Yusuf is a humble servant of the nation. Thus as usual you have no point. No, cause Yeey does not owe Nuur Caade his political existance - since it is vice versa, according to you, it is the PM who is humble servant to Yeey. Now stop changing your mind and be brave to your words.

Thiery, how can he not compromise his fundamental yet accommodate other views , that is controdicting isn't? Does he have Somali blood in his hands, that is controversial sxb. But we can ask, though we may not, the hundresds of youngsters who perished to Ethiopian bombardment in outskirts of Baydhabo - where they were sent to the battle front untrained and into a war which was never really chartered nor planned. Grassroot support? Arent those the ones he lft behind when he boarded a US Heli from Kismayo? Or is that never questioned? Hassan Dahir Aweys can be said to be stubborn and always mis-calculating , but certainly he is sincere to his believes.

Originally posted by General Duke: Remmeber Nur Cade owes his political existance to Yey. That is news, I didn't know that. So Nuur Caade literally is a humble servant?

Originally posted by General Duke: lool, Bashi. The new PM must be given a chance, by everyone. He has so far articulated a new message of dialogue with everyone and at any place. In contrast to the messages the TFG president is sending out. Who is speaking for the TFG Nuur Caade or the recovering Yeey ?

Good Dattore, then lets find a good programmer to use the excellent software, since we agree that is all Sheikh Sharif is.

Dattore whether he was wrong or not Sheikh Aweys was the driving intellectual force behind the ICU. In other words he was the programmer and Sheikh Sharif was the software.

OK guys, if you guys are looking for a trustworthy person whom you can trust with your personal belongings then Sheikh Sharif is the best. But when you are looking for someone to run a country and spear head his principles, and a person who is creative and full of ideas then am sorry to bring truth to you - that person is not Sheikh Sharif. If you are in love with the Islamic Courts era then it would have been ideal if you went for Xassan Dahir Aweys. He is resolute and visionary who deems the rule of Sharia can elevate the misery of his people. He does not bargain on his tenets, plus the fact that he was the brains behind the ICU.

He will never be a leader, he is a 'subordinate' and will always be.

Originally posted by Thierry: I am glad you support him Saxiib but what has “working” or “getting sacked” by Dheree got to do with him deciding to join the ICU. that statement was unnecessary no it is not - it is a bit of biography you missed and one part of history omited by himself and his followers.

If he denies that he was working fo Maxamed Dhere prior to MMI then never believe him - but as you said he is a good candidate and I will vote for him if he is nominated.

Originally posted by Thierry: “It was the abduction of one of his 12-year-old pupils that prompted Somali schoolteacher Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed to take a stand against the warlords who had ruled the capital, Mogadishu for the last 16 years.” No it was hat he was sacked by Maxamed Dhere few months back.

Originally posted by Dr.Galbeyte: Juje Brother.. Everyone is at their own struggle... Indeed, the paramount companion and associate in his struggle are those who are bombarding and savaging you left and right in your hood. How much further do you want me to state the fact to you.

Originally posted by Dr.Galbeyte: AJ. for every struggle for freedom there is a price to pay. You probably know this better then most. Lets just hope that this doesnt turn out to be too much of price. Can you tell me what price AJ is paying? He is busy seeking 'international recognition' in the corridors of US State Dept.

Originally posted by Baashi: He opposes dirrin process and nomads who take that position but he can not articulate why. Awoowe waxan ka cabsana, at the rate the hoobiyaasha and madafiica are going, in aad weysiid ciid dirin kula so farisata.

Originally posted by A.J.: Victory for the people i think. The more of these disgusting pigs that is eliminated from Somalia the better Yeah, you can bloody well start in your corner sxb. 'These disgusting pigs' are present and enjoying a siesta in everywhere else in Somalia. They are killed , bombed and maimed in Xamar and the repercussion is this. and this... and this where the injured had to share beds cause it was unbelievably numerous. Now am glad you are rejoicing at the dead of the 'pigs' but have you thought about the results of your joy.