Originally posted by Emperor: Juje, I am talking about now, you silly man... Now.....? Ok ! where and when did Yeey and his few thousand men over run the ICU militias and the Al-Shabaab blinked? Emperor come clean or retrieve your claim.

Originally posted by Emperor: AT, Adeer you say Yusuf would run, yet ironically its Yusuf's few thousand boys that made Alshabaab blink when they overrun Sheikh hotel's ICU, When......???? We have witnessed on numerous times the re-writing of history and the fake declaration that Yeey was this and that - BUT you are now talking about 2006. So tell us when did Yeey and his few thousand boys over run the ICU militias. And just to warn you every Somali and every other human who was here on June 2006 and lives now remembers that it was 29000 armed Ethiopian troops and Yeey in an armed carrier that came to Mogadishu.

MADAXWEYNAHA SOOMAALIYA: “Dad dagaal xirfad ka dhigtay oo aan nabad iyo dowladnimo rabin oo aan shacab u tureynin ayaa ka dambeeya Dagaallada Muqdisho ka dhacaya” Isniin, May 11, 2009(HOL): Madaxweynaha Dowladda Midnimada Qaran ee Soomaaliya Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed oo maanta shir jaraa’id ku qabtay Xarunta Villa Somalia ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa wuxuu shaaca ka qaaday in Dowladdiisa is-difaaci doonto kadib muddo dheer oo ay soo dulqaadaneysay. Madaxweyne Shiikh Shariif waxaa uu sheegay in in muddo ah ay Dowladda Soomaaliya soo dulqaadaneysay, intaasna ay weerarro ku hayeen sida uu hadalka u yiri dad xirfad ka dhigtay dagaallada, kuwaasi oo uu sheegay in aysan Nabad iyo Dowladnimo rabin. “Dad dagaal xirfad ka dhigtay oo aan nabad iyo dowladnimo rabin oo aan shacab ka fekereynin ayaa ka dambeeya Dagaallada Muqdisho ka dhacaya” ayuu yiri Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed oo sheegay in ay ka xun yihiin in dagaalladii ka dhacay Magaalada Muqdisho ay waxyeello ka soo gaartay dad aan waxba galabsan. Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya oo sii hadlayay waxa uu sheegay in iyadoo dalka ay ka baxeen Ciidamadii Shisheeye ee Itoobiyaanka ahaa, Dadka heshiiyeen,isla markaana ay Dowladda Soomaaliya go’aansatay in ay dalka ku xukunto Shareecada Islaamka ay is-weydiin mudan tahay sababta ay dagaallada u sii socdaan. Mar la weydiiyay Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya in ay kooxaha ka soo horjeeda kala wareegay fariisimo ay Ciidamada Dowladda ku lahaayeen magaalada Muqdisho ayaa wuxuu ku gaabsaday in Ciidamada Dowladda si dhaqsi ah dib u habeyn loogu sameyn doono, lana arki doono waxqabadkooda. Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya waxa uu qiray in Dowladdiisa looga baxay heshiis hordhac ah oo ay la gaartay kooxaha ka soo horjeeda, “Waxaa jirtay in Dowladda ay muddo dheer soo waday wada hadallo ay la geleysay kooxaha ka soo horjeeda, waxaana dhacday in dad ay dowladda heshiis hordhac ah la gaartay ay heshiiskii ka baxeen”ayuu yiri Madaxweyne Shiikh Shariif oo sheegay in taasi ay muujineyso in Dowladda Soomaaliya ay mar kasta u heellan tahay in ay heshiisyo la gaarto Kooxaha ka soo horjeeda. Shacabka Soomaaliyeed ayuu ugu baaqay madaxweynaha Soomaaliya in ay gacmaha is-qabsadaan, isla markaana ay taageeraan Dowladda, “Waxa la taageerayo qof ma ahan ee waa Qarannimada Soomaaliya, waxaana hubanti ah in haddii aan la helin Qarannimo aanan la heleynin Nabad”ayuu yiri Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed oo sheegay in dowladdiisa ay dadaal kasta u geleyso sidii xal loogu heli lahaa dagaallada ka dhacaya Muqdisho. Waxaa uu sidoo kale madaxweynaha uu baaq u diray Kooxaha dagaalka kala soo horjeeda, wuxuuna ugu baaqay in aysan ku qaldamin daadinta dhiigga dad muslimiin ah, “Dhalinyarada dagaalka kala soo horjeeda Dowladda oo la soo qalday waxaan leenahay haku qaldamina in aad daadisaan dhiigga qof muslim ah oo xaaraan idinka ah”ayuu yiri Madaxweyne Shariif. Ugu dambeyntiina, Shirka jaraa’id ee uu qabtay Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo afar maalmood oo aanu ka soo gudubnay ay magaalada Muqdisho ka dhacayeen dagaallo u dhaxeeya Ciidamadda Dowladda iyo Xoogag hubeysan oo ka soo horjeeda, iyadoo intii ay dagaalladaas socdeenna lagula wareegay fariisimo ay ku sugnaayeen Ciidamada Dowladda. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Muqdisho, Soomaaliya

Originally posted by Garyaqaan*: Col cumar xaai janaqoow shariif sheeq axmed and cumar cabdirashiid dhulkii waa iibsadeen marka isii umada ayaa heeyso. insha alaah dhalinyarada hadeey isku aqli celiyaan ay arinta dajiyaan iyagaa wadanka dowlada ka noqon doona. Maxaa habar alalas bananka ula so baxda markey wax yar maqlaan - hadhowna murugo meel la fadhista markey runta ka dabatimado.

Xassan Dahir Aweys s***** u u yimid Xamar mantey gacantu ku haya...sey wax noqon doonto Illah SWT aya og, bal aan ka war sugno.

Illahow qalbi-carrurnimo ha nagu ridiin...amiin!

Originally posted by Abwaan: lol...Adduunyo waa is bedeshay...Ayrow Died, MANSUR IS IN BAIDAO...and Axmed Diriye is more famous than Yusuf is now!!! Yusuf is in Yemen working on his comeback...

So Jamal is advocating for the fair and free trial of this young kid. Good, I wish he would do the same for all Somalis.

Allah uu Naxaristo...amiin!

I fail to understand the wave of irksomeness towards the art of Amin Camir. You have got to understand he is just like one of us but with a talent to illustrate and display with a touch of humor his views ,mainly, to current and present political picture of Somalia. And he has an audience but does not necessarily command a leadership role neither the position of changing events on the ground. Is he fair, objective and honest? But then again is it a must that he should have all this attributes. How many broad-sheets and tabloids do read or have an access to it, or for this matter any other media in the World, do they have the attributes you seek from Amin Camir? No. So why are you being hard on him? I think at this point it is fair to mention that most of his, if not all, illustrations were pin point accurate and reflected the majority's views and understanding of the subject matter. And of course in his vivid drawings he added that touch of comedy which aroused his audience's humor. And that is what it is all about. Am sure many SOLERS enjoyed some of his previous works when the subject matter was not an affiliation but when it was they were irked. I not only support President Sharif but work hard for his admin to succeed - and in this depiction Amin Camir is right the Presidents uses armed carrier when in Mogadishu - obviously it is not true that it happened in Turkey - but he is displaying the comedy side of it. Amin Camir is not the reason why the President uses armed carrier in Mogadishu and if you are going to get annoyed with him because of it or why did he is displaying it , then that is not fair.

Pirates: the $80m Gulf connection Crime syndicates laundering vast sums taken in ransom from ships and their crews hijacked in Horn of Africa Organised piracy syndicates operating in Dubai and other Gulf states are laundering vast sums of money taken in ransom from vessels hijacked off the Horn of Africa. Investigators hired by the shipping industry have told The Independent that around $80m (£56m) has been paid out in the past year alone – far more than has previously been admitted. But while some of this money has ended up in the pirate havens of Somalia, millions have been laundered through bank accounts in the United Arab Emirates and other parts of the Middle East. The so-called "godfathers" of the illicit operations, according to investigators, include businessmen from Somalia and the Middle East, as well as other nationalities on the Indian sub-continent. There have also been reports that some of the money from piracy ransoms has gone to Islamist militants. The security company Idarat Maritime, which specialises in maritime protection, is working with leading Lloyd's underwriters to formulate safeguards for shippers. Christopher Ledger, a former Royal Marine officer and a director of the firm, said: "There is evidence that syndicates based in the Gulf – some in Dubai – play a significant role in the piracy which is taking place off the African coast. There are huge amounts of money involved and this gives the syndicates access to increasingly sophisticated means of moving money as well as access to modern technology in carrying out the hijackings. This is an international problem and the shipping companies need to ensure that their crews learn how to deal with it. "Investigators have discovered that the pirate gangs are exploiting information available to the shipping industry to plan their attacks. Front organisations are believed to have signed up to the Lloyd's List ship movement database, and sources such as Jane's Intelligence, to ascertain protective measures being undertaken by the shippers. In addition they have bought equipment to monitor radio traffic. A few well-funded pirate syndicates have experimented with a "stealth" paint such as AR 1, invented by a German scientist living in the UAE, which is credited with making boats difficult to spot via the long-range radar of cargo liners. It is not clear whether the use of the paint has been effective in helping hijackings, but its use, say the security companies, shows that the pirates are seeking out advanced technology and have the means to acquire it. Andrew Mwangura, a piracy expert in the Kenyan port of Mombasa, says the gun-wielding Somalis who are fighting and dying in the hijackings are the just the front men of larger syndicates. "They are just the small fish. The big sharks operate out of places like Dubai, Nairobi and Mombasa," he said. Mr Mwangura, who has observed the rise of piracy while running the East African Seafarers Assistance Programme, says that what began as a localised response to illegal fishing and dumping of toxic waste in Somali waters has evolved into organised crime. A former merchant seaman, he has been involved in attempts to negotiate the release of hostages and is sought out by diplomats, shipowners and the pirates themselves. He says the profits have drawn in "high-ranking figures" from the semi-autonomous Puntland region and members of the now defunct transitional government of Somalia. "We strongly believe that Mombasa- and UAE-based Somali businessmen are also part of the network." Neil Roberts, a senior official with Lloyd's Market Association, and the secretary of "the war committee" of Lloyd's and the insurance industry, said: "We are certainly seeing a lot of sophistication in the way piracy has developed. Attacks are being carried out 400 to 600 miles out at sea. This shows the pirates have access to pretty detailed information of ship movements. They certainly have access to the internet and information that is helping them. The question of UAE connection is certainly talked about in the industry and people have been looking into it." There are also concerns that some of the piracy money may have ended up with Islamist militants both in Somalia and abroad. However this has not been acknowledged because shipping companies would be breaking laws on funding terrorism by paying ransoms. Stephen Askins, senior partner with the law firm Ince & Co, which specialises in the subject, said: "Current anti-terrorist laws make it illegal to make payment to those who carry out such acts motivated by politics or ideology. "This does not apply to victims of extortion in criminal cases. We know the US State Department is looking at upgrading piracy to a possible political act but this will make it very difficult for shipping companies to free the many members of crew who are still being held and the cargo being held as well. We know people are looking at those who are subsidising the pirates and we will have to see what happens." Major General Julian Thompson, the chairman of Idarat and a former commander in the Royal Marines, added: "What we can say is that these people are not just fishermen who have taken up a bit of piracy as a hobby. The people in ultimate charge of some of the groups have access to some pretty good information and they are well organised. Dubai seems to be the place which has a part in this." By Kim Sengupta In Nairobi and Daniel Howden Africa correspondent Tuesday, 21 April 2009 SOURCE

^^^ You are shadowing Xaaji Xaran (Xaaji Xundhuf) now. Calm yourself

Originally posted by Thierry.: Lool the President of the Republic of Somalia holds the most powerful post in greater Somalia which happens to be located in the Horn of Africa. Sxb dont take the fun out of the picture. No one is questioning here the status of Sheikh Sharif..ok. Odeyga hada kadiib he should avoid using the AMISOM armed carriers. Amin Camir qandho ku dishey walle odeyga wu la heley.

Originally posted by President Anwar: I DONT LIKE IT :mad: :mad: Where is your sense of humour?

Looooooooooooooooooo ooooooool...!

^^^ hey! welcome back saxiib.

He is here

Originally posted by Duufaan: it is for sale. "dispute maritime" well done Kenya, they are grantee to get at least some part of somali coast which is disputed. this is what it is all about. this is very serious, people who are behind this most to brought to justes. Do you even know what you are talking about?

Is it really for sale or are we playing to the tune of nay sayers? MEMORANDUM of UNDERSTANDING

Originally posted by Sophist: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 Mogadishu, Somalia (APA) - Acting Somali parliament speaker Osman Elmi Boqore on Tuesday accused Somali government of delaying parliament’s approval of the implementation of Islamic law throughout Somalia. Sophist trust me sxb it wil not even warrant a response. On the other hand Boqore was not famous for advocating for the introduction of the Sharia thus his recent remark will be labeled as an individual who spoke for the sake of it. And nothing has began that has not started before.

Casuura picked up from WaagaCusub. At the moment it is pure speculation

Hope that foreign troops would leave.SQUANDERED. Why is hope tight into that aspect. It was the Ethiopians, and they have left on the basis on a deal brokered by the ARS and the TFG - the 'hope' that should have followed that was diminishing of hostility and acceptance of peace settlement by all those it concerned . Alas there remain those who claim to be righteous and considers all others as infedels. that is whta has squandered the 'hope'. Hope that the different factions would come together under auspices of the Culama. SQUANDERED. I wonder who is obstructing this coming together under the unity and the leadership of the Culama. On the otherhand the latter is not the government though their guidance and stinctive leadership has been accepted and abided by the government of Sheikh Sharif. Hope that the different factions would come together under auspices of the Culama. SQUANDERED. Sxb it is different in every aspect - the fact that it is being led by Sheikh Sharif as president clearly shows the difference. But if you were looking for others as a leader , shouldn't you wait untill and when it comes through a process acceptable to all. Secondly how long do you intend to shift blames attributed to you and your likes to alleged foreign influence. Another thing......do you actually believe Sh Shariif and his cohorts have any will of their own? I do not only actually but sincerely believe that President Sharif has own will and the hearts of the millions peace loving Somalis in mind. Anything else?

Originally posted by Abu_Diaby- Al Zeylaci: clear doubts= they have admitted that they have misleading the people all along. I feel sorry for the MOG folks; every time a new leader emerges on top of occupying tanks giving them blessings of "peace" and " governance". Who is misleading sxb a government who wants build security and governance for all using all available tools or those who claim to be righteous and the sole representatives of the Somali people.

Meiji in simple words cause I can see you failed to comprehend - those who are supporting it and following it now are they doing it blindly or do they have a purpose of hope. And above all this are they not classed as 'Somali people' in your analyses. I can further debate your point once you identify those not in support as few - cause the Somali people want governance and peace and stability and that could be achieved through this government not through antagonism. So who are the Somali people you are refering to?