You must have something against the indivudual mentioned in the documents , whatever it is I dont want to get involved. By no substance I meant that the 'news' was stale and had no proof wat soever...in otherwords it is simply an allegation nothing more nothing less. And I was also prooving which you seem to have missed that the story was a 'breaking News ' in Dayniile about a year ago.But it seems Nuune and Qadsiya missed it, now it is also you.

Nuune has uncovered a top secret informtion apparently he is not alone. So did the MMI through their website, someone should have told them it was also a breaking news for Dayniile about a year, but they dropped it as it did not have any substance.

Good enough for one, but is it the same case for all the houses in the pic?

I can understand if it snows in Hargeysa for the first time, but what suprises me about the picture is not only the snow but that the houses already have a chimney. How?

War Generale bal uu kadi xooga...you seem to be in fifth gear. There was no clashes in Bur-hakaba this morning...the TFg troops moved in whie the ICU retreated. And now according to latest news the role has reversed...TFG retredted and the ICU advanced and once again the control of Bur-Hakabo is their control. Thre is no War no clashes and no 'dandansi'. Just a test of ability. And Inshallah there will be no war. Bisinkoy...! Wa la idin cabsada Wallahi, kaley idinka maxaad dagal ku jeceshihiin. I bet none of you who have contributed to this thread has at one time one way or the other experienced at first hand the clan war in Somalia. So for you guys it is like a Nintendo game. Alxamdullilah there is no War at the moment and there will be no war Inshallah.

Originally posted by Qudhac: the actuall video is withought a doubt fake . Exactly. Therefore isnt this whole issue farce, if its sole evidence is the 'video'. The other question is why has this issue all if sudden become a propoganda for the ICU and other extremists? Could it be it is well devised and propogated plan has been iun the agenda for a long time?

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Originally posted by Tahliil: To many I think Amiri's drawings and artistic vision has a problem of inconsistency... How do you measure the consistency of an art work?

Originally posted by Khayr: Truth is a relative thing to an artist and is always a subjective matter. Indeed. Though it is always a nice feed back if the subject of his drawing has been irked by the display.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: Walaahi it is very sad for all of us if that clip is proven, because such people tell us alot about their nature, which is much below the true non-muslims. Well if as you as say that the video is genuine. But any fool who has watched the video can tell that it is fake and poorly acted. However on the otherhand I cannot comment on the condition of prisoners in Hargeysa nor the fate of the Sheikh, but if all the evidence that is brewing at the moment is based on the video that is circulating in the Internet, then I think it is a piece of fabricated propoganda. If you watch the tape , there is no blow, kick, or belt that hits the 'alleged sheikh' , the claimed electric-shock aparatus does not have a wire linked to it, and if you watch and listen carefully - in the video time '3:50 - 3:60' the alleged tortured sheikh looks at the camera directly and the person behind the camera gives him instruction in very low but audible voice to lie down 'seexo dhulka'. After watching this poorly constructed video I can only come to the conclussion it was created to raise the feelings of certain people, who they are I dont know. Once again my assumption is solely based on the video, and I dont know anything about the said Sheikh, I have nothing for him except respect. I just wish that he is not part of this amateur video. The Video I saw

Originally posted by General Duke: Xasan Dahir for all his swager was a brutal prison warden in the last regime. Oh you might have his biography. I bet he doesnt! What is ironic people are clapping for this as if it is an achievement by the Maxakiinta. And yes it is indeed an achievement by them but not for the oppresed people on Afgoye, Aw-dheegle, Merka, Barawe, etc. This is just a dressing to legalise, if there is any legality of the steps taken by the maxakiinta, the atrociuties and illegal occupation by Cirfo, Balao Indhacadde and Co. in that region. What is ironic is that all you have to look at is where the alleged hand-over celebration took place. The 'host' Hussein Cirfo (does he really have a right to host people in Afgooye), and where was he hosting them, at the farm belonging to Sheikh Zayed Al Nahyaan in Afgooye. Now I dont know whether anyone in here is familiar with Afgooye, but that farm belongs to the family of Al-Nahyaan of UAE and was always under the control of their representatives with the supervision of the government of the day. For the maxakamiin to be breaking their fast in a farm illegally occupied by a thug (cirfo) and for them in the same venue curse (amin amir) a person forced into refugee by the illegal occupiers speakes volumes of the under picture of the Maxakiin. They are nothing less or more than the criminals they support,conceal or even rely on for aid.

Oo Ye Court Supporters this is how ordinary people see it !

Sxb Duke adna waxan kugu nacey gadal kaso garka...didnt you read Rahima said and I quote : at the end of the day the holy clan of Hassan Dahir and co are untouchable, so live with it . Wax aan arrintas ugu si munaqishoono mesha ma taal, mida keliya aan oranayo waa "war hoy rago kibirka walagu kufaye ogaada".

The only issue that worries Suldanka in this scenario is the fact that the Ethiopians are according to much attention to President Yusuf and his TFG in comparisson to S/land. He is more irate about that.

Originally posted by Rahima: ^Who the bloody hell cares, it's all BS anyway. The efforts some will go to, sore loosers The efforts some will go to make this look like a non-event..sore desperados. And for you my dear Lady Rahima you will care enough to explain why immidiate former President was accorded the platform t make a political press statement couple of weeks ago, now included in a high level ICU delegation to Libya.Why the difference treatment accorded to the former presidents? On the same tune, General Galal, President Abdiqasiim, Businessmen Delaf, other dignatories from the same clan as that of Hassan Dahir have body guards, weapons and 'cabdi-bilayaal' and at the same time it was confistigated from Ali Mahdi, why? This smells bad Rahima, and the soreloosers will soon emerge.

Originally posted by Paragon: [QB] Even Puntlander websites report the presence of Ethiopia and Cade's aid to A/Qaybdiid. So what? Even if for a fact if they were aiding him, dont you realise that this is a beaten and wonded guy and will venge his defeat at the hands of those whom he nurtered before but have now changed clothing. Why is there all of a sudden fear in the remergence of Qaybdiid?

Originally posted by Yo-Yo Ma: The likes of Him including the morons in baydbadho And to think there is sanity in between your ears will be over statement.

Originally posted by Rahima: Allow me to educate you boys on Aussie slang. Wanker: a male that is really s'tupid but they think they are the greatest Sis let me suggest to you , use it next time you visit forums where the Aussie slang language is the medium. In here and in any common and decent forums wanker : means; Pronunciation: 'wa[ng]-k&r Function: noun 1) chiefly British, usually vulgar : a person who ma*tu*bat*s. And you being a female calling a male a wanker . damn u must have a lot of proove.

Originally posted by Hizb_UK: ^^ Maybe she was reffereing to u. But you are a living proof that am not one.

^^Lool what a lame excuse.. Sxb look at the head letter it says 'Somali State'. What gives him the right to produce a personal press conference on such letter head.

Originally posted by Rahima: This wanker needs to be shot! Which one , Sheikh laso gamey (sharif), Aweys. Indhacadee, or Qeybdiid. 'wanker' strong word coming out from a women's perspective.

The man, il-presidente qasiim has a nerve, guess what his press release went out in a letter head for the Somali president.Does he seriously still think he is president.

It has always been perceived by many who dont question the principle they follow that the Maxakamiinta were off-springs of public uprising and genuine Islamic leaders for a change. For a start yesterday in Afgooye Sheikh Sharif has proved them wrong by stating that Shabelleda Hose is under the juridiction of the ICU and thus there was need for the ICU to go there. Hence legalising in his own terns the, rape, torture, abuse and above all the illegal occupation in there by men from as far as Galgaduud. I dont want to delve deep into that as I always said there is no sense of inguinity about the ICU and Sheikh Sharif has proved me right . Am begining to accept the nickname accorded to him by his own clansmen which 'Sheikha laso gamey'. However to no suprise at all those who suspected the power behind the ICU , there emerged today in vision and in person the man behind the ICU . 'Honourable', former president, minister, etc. Dr. Professor. Kadir Abdiqasim Salad Hassan. The veryman who in his capacity as a Interim president of Somalia armed the likes of IndhaCadee, Cirfo, Delaf. Cayro, allk those who are the military power of the ICU. The man has stepped out of the shadow and dictates what is best for the Somali people. He calls the TFG as a government set up in Nairobi. Excuse me wasnt he a presidential candidate and lost in the election. What a hypocrite to turn around now and say ' wa wax laso dhodhobey'. He calls the TFG as unrepresentative while the ICU is representative. I cant help but laugh. The council of Islamic courts is made up of Aweys, Sharif, the many who changed their names to Abu-something. Ironically the men have one thing in common they share all of them same clan background. While the TFG parliament can boast to have members of every clan of every corner in Somalia. The comparison itself is an insult to logics. read what the Il-Presidente had to say War-saxaafadeed Kadib markii ay abuurantay marxalad wadata isbedel siyaasadeed, mid dhaqaale, nabadgelyo & arrimaha bulsho intaba ee saameeyey magaala madaxda & gobolada dalka intooda badan, isbedelkaas oo keenay guulo la taaban karo oo uu soo hoyey kacdoonka shacabka Soomaaliyeed, oo ay hormuud u yihiin maxaakiimta Islaamiga ah. Kuwaas oo ku guuleystay in ay ka xorreeeyaan dagaal oogayaashii 16-ka sano ummadda Soomaaliyeed u qafaalneyd. Isbedelka noocaas ee sida dhaqsaha leh ku yimid si uusan u fashilmin waxaa lagama maarmaan ah in tilmaamo laga baxsho arrimaha soo socda. 1) Faragelinta dowladda Itoobiya ay ku hayso arrimaha Soomaaliya 2) Doorka liita ee ay ku socoto dowladda lagu soo dhoodhoobay Kenya 3) Kacdoonka shacbiga oo ay maxaakiimtu hormuudka u tahay & waxa la gudboon Arrimaha dibedda Soomaaliya waa dal ka tirsan Q/Midoobay, ururka Afrikada Midoobay, J/Carabta, Ururka Islaamka, Ururka Saaxil & Saxaraha & IGAD intaba. Door wax ku ool ah oo taariikhda horay u galay ayeyna ummadda Soomaaliyeed ka qaadatay taageerida halgankii gobanima doonka & la dagaalanka midab-toorka ee qaarada Afrika ka dhacay. Waxeyna Soomaalidu ku kasbatay halgankaas dheeraa cadaawada dowladihii wax gumneysan jiray oo arrimaha adduunka intooda badan maamulayey. Cadaawadaas loo hayo shacabka Soomaaliyeed, kana soo bilaabatay halgankii dheeree ee gumeysi la dirirka ahaa oo uu hogaamin jiray halyeygii Afrikada Bari Axmed Gurey qarnigii 15-aad & halgankii 21-ka sano socday ee uu hogaaminayey halyeygii ummadda Sayid Max’ed Cabdulle Xasan. Waxaa mudan in hoosta laga xariiqo in halgamadaasi saldhigoodu ahaa difaaca diinta Islaamka, dalka & dadka Soomaaliyeed. Halgamadaas soo taxanaha ahaa si loogaga hortago ayaa gumeystayaashii reer Yurub & boqortooyadii Itoobiya waxey ku gaareen heshiis magaalada Berlin sanadkii 1884-tii, kaasoo qorayey in Soomaaliya loo qeybiyo 5 qeybood, arrintaas oo ilaa maanta ay dhibaatadeedu haysato shacbiga Soomaaliyeed meel uu joogaba. Shucuubta dalalka Masar, Liibiya, Iiraan & Eretereeya oo aan ku bahownay ururka Islaamka, qaarkoodna aan ku wada jirno ururka Saaxil & Saxaraha, waxaan ugu tacsiyeynayaa, kana raaligelinayaa iyaga & madaxdoodaba eedeymihii saxaafadda loo mariyey ee aan marnaba u qalmin walaaltinimada & wanaaga ka dhexeeya iyaga & shacbiga Soomaaliyeed, hadalkaasi deelqaafka ahaa oo uu dhowaan jeediyey Cali Max’ed Geeddi, wuxuu ka tarjumayey cadowga shacabka Soomaaliyeed. Shacabka Soomaaliyeed & midka Mareykanka waxaa ka dhexeyn jiray weligood saaxiibtinimo & iskaashi dhinacyo badan leh, ma haboona in cadaawad loo abuuro labadaas shacabi, sidaas darteed waxaan dowladda Mareykanka oo ah quwada maanta adduunka ugu weyn in ay gudato mas’uuliyada ka saaran shacabka Soomaaliyeed oo muddo 16 sano ah ay la degeen dagaalo sokeeye, ayna u fidiyaan taageero siyaasadeed & mid dhaqaale, isla markaana ay gacan ka geystaan sidii gobolkan geeska Afrika loogu dabaali lahaa xasilooni & nabadgelyo taasoo maslaxad u ah danta guud ee shucuubka geeska Afrika & adduun weynaha ba. Faragelinta dowladda Itoobiya ay ku hayso arrimaha Soomaaliya Dowladda Itoobiya oo ka mid aheyd dowladdihii IGAD ee soo dhoodhoobay dowladda federaalka KMG ah waxey si aan leex leexad laheyn ula wareegtay gacan ku haynta & hagida dowladdii Soomaaliya loo soo dhoodhoobay taasoo ay tilmaan u tahay. Duulaanka qaawan oo ay ciidamda Itoobiya ku qaadeen gobolada, Gedo, Bay, Bakool, Hiiraan iyo Galgaduud oo ay ku sugan yihiin waqtigan la joogo. Waxay saldhigyo siiyeen qabqablayaashii dagaal-oogayaasha ahaa oo shacbiga Xamar iyo maxkamadihiisu kacdoonka uga saareen caasimadda, kuwaasoo oo ay hub iyo ciidamba ku taakuleyso Itoobiya si ay u sii wadaa fidnadii ay mudada 16-ka sano ka wadeen dalka Soomaaliya. Waxay ku xad gudubtay go’aankii dowladda IGAD ee ahaa inaan laga soo dhoweyn dagaal oogayaasha magaala madaxdana laga saaray dalalka IGAD, cidii joogtana laga saaro. Dowladda federaalka ee Soomaaliya Dowladdii lagu soo dhoodhoobay labo sano ka hor dalka Kenya waxay noqotay madiidin u adeega maamulka Tikreega ee dalka Itoobiya ku amar ku taagleeya, fulinayana danahooda ay Soomaaliya ka leeyihiin, taas oo u jeedada Itoobiya ka leedahay Soomaaliya ay tahay in aan shacbiga Soomaaliyeed yeelan midnimo dal, loona qeybiyo gobolo iyo degmooyin madax banaan oo iyadu ay maamusho si loo waayo Qaran Soomaaliyeed oo mideysan. Dowladda federaalka KMG ah ee Soomaaliyeed oo laga sugayay in ay shacbiga Soomaaliyeed ka saarto dhibaatooyinkii ku habsaday waxay ku caanbaxday qodobada soo socda:- 1)- Khilaaf joogto ah oo dhexdooda ka ololsan maalintii la soo dhisay illaa maanta 2)- Xiriir la’aanta ka jirta bulshada Soomaaliyeed iyo dowladda KMG 3)- faro gelinta ciidamda cadowga ee Tigreega ah oo dowladda KMG ay ogolaatay una yeeratay iyadu 4)- ka gaabinta dib u heshiisiinta Soomaaliyeed oo saldhig u aheyd Cahdiga lagu soo dhisay dowladda 5)- maamulkii dowliga ahaa oo heer Qaran iyo Heer gobol oo aan waxba laga qaban 6)- waxay dowladda KMG ogolaadeen qabqablayaashii dagaal ee laga saaray Xamar inay ku soo dhoweeyeen Baydhabo, qaarkoodna waxay ku taakuleeyeen inay dagaalo cusub ka huriyaan gobolada dhexe ee dalka Kacdoonkii Xamar Waxaa shacbiga Soomaaliyeed meel kasta oo uu joogo gudaha iyo dibedda ku noolaadeen, guulihii ka dhashay kacdoonkii shacbiga gobolka Banaadir iyo maxkamadahiisa, kacdoonkaas oo ay ka qeyb qaateen qeybaha kala duwan ee bulshada gobolka Banaadir. Hadaba waxaa haboon in la badbaadiyo guulahaasi, taas oo ku imaan karta:- 1)- in talada guulahaasi la gaaray ay ka wada qeyb qaataan dhamaan qeybaha bulshada Soomaaliyeed si looga hortago in koox gaar ah ay isisiiso 2)- in sida ugu dhaqsaha badan loo hirgeliyo maamulka gobolka Banaadir, si looga hortago qalalaasaha iyo is khilaaf dhasha 3)- in maleeshiyooyinkii ku fashilay weerarada dagaal oogayaasha loo sameeyo dhaqan celin iyo tababaro xirfadeed oo lagu xaqiijinayo noloshooda yio adeegooda bulsho 4)- in hubka macno darada u yaala magaalo madaxda iyo gobolada ay ka taliyaan maxaakimta loo sameeyo barnaamij lagu xadeynayo heysashadiisa 5)- in ciidamadii qalabka siday ee dalka la howlgeliyo intii suurto gal ah si aysan u dareemin in aqoontooda iyo xirfadooda laga maarmay, dhalinyarta Soomaaliyeed ee maxaakimtu hogaaminayaan ay u helaan aqoon iyo xirfad ciidan oo dhameystiran, ayna ku difaaci karaan dalka, dadka iyo Diinta ugu dambeyntii waxaa haboon in la xoojiyo midnimada iyo kalsoonida ka dhaxeysa hogaanka maxaakimta iyo qeybaha kala duwan ee bulshada Soomaaliyeed, lana sameeyo dood iyo aqoon loogu gogol xaarayo guulaha la gaaray in ay taam noqdaan, dalka oo idinaku faafaan Dr. C/qaasim ayey saxaafadu dhowr su’aalood weydiisay waxaana su’aalihii la weydiiyey ka mid ahaa in isagu mar kale uu damac uga jiro kursiga madaxtinimada Soomaaliya, wuxuuna ku jawaabay. “Madaxtinimada qofka soo maray keliya ayaa yaqaan, weliba waqtigaan maanta Soomaaliya joogta ninka wax u noqda ayaa garan kara oo ka talin kara, ma jiraan jagooyinkii la sheegi jiray, sharafkii la sheegi jiray, waxaa taagan caay, xumaan & maxaad aniga wax ii siin weysay oo wax iigu tari weyday, reer hebel buu sidaa yeelay, kanuu waxeeyey, 4 sano baan xaaladaas ku jiray marka anigu u soo fara baxsan maayee, dalka in uu noo dego oo aad Islaanimada qaadataan, oo ciddaad rabtaan aad doorataan ayaan rabaa aniguna inta cimrigeyga ka harsan aan arko dalkeygii oo degay ilmaheyga, ilmahooda & ilmihiina caradayadii oo nabad ah annagoo sharaf yeelanay, anaga oo maalin walba handadaada Tigree ku jirin in aan arko ayaan jeclaan lahaa Mar kale C/qaasim waxaa la weydiyey in uu qabo in K/Soomaaliya ay gabaad u tahay kooxo argagixiso ah, wuxuuna ku jawaabay. “Argagixiso dalkan waa joogtay, argagixisaduna waxey ahaayeen todobadii hogaamiye kooxeed oo dadka xoog ku haysatay waana laga xoreeyey†Waxaa mar kale la weydiiyey C/qaasim sida uu u arko go’aankii ka soo baxay taliyeyaasha IGAD ee lagu gaaray in Soomaaliya loo oo dirayo ciidamo ka socda dalalka IGAD “Horta IGAD, IGAD maxaa la yiraa.? IGAD wax la dhoodhoobay weeye, wax jiro ma ahan, Itoobiya ayaana hor booda, Qarbiga (Reer galbeedka) & Itoobiya wax ay dhoodhoobeen weeye, IGAD ciidamo ay leedahay dalkaan uma baahna, meel ay tageen weli ma maqasheen, xoogaa waxey ka Daarfuur, xoogaagiina waxey cunaan markii ay waayeen ayaa la yiri ha laga saaro, xageen IGAD ka keeneysaa xoolaha ay Soomaaliya ku imaaneyso, ma la soo adeegsanayaa, IGAD qaarkood walaalo ayaanu nahay, wax dhibaato ahna kama qabno. Arrimaha Soomaaliya Soomaalidaa iska leh, diinteena inagaa iska leh, dhaqaalahayaga annagaa iska leh, cid kasta oo wax u tareysa shacabka Soomaaliyeed waa in lala hadlaa xittaa odayga ugu weyn ee Mareykanka†Source The BIG question now is , how on earth was the Islaax meeting cancelled and refused to go on and allow a press conference by Abdiqassim, arent they both political proboganda.

^^Someone should have told him wearing a camouflage publicly was a not good idea. The last person who did so in defiance against the ICU was Abdiqeybdiid and he is still on run. Not wise move Cadde.

Madaxda sare ee dawladda oo ku heshiiyay in la soo dhiso xukuumad cusub oo ka madax banaan golaha baarlamanka. Baydhabo:-Madaxda sare ee dawladda ayaa maanta uga warbixiyay golaha baarlamanka heshiiskii ay ka soo shaqeysay dawladda Ethiopia oo ay gaareen 3daasi masuul, kadib markii golaha baarlamanka maanta uu kulan ku yeeshay xarunta ADC. Madaxweynaha dawladda kmg C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed oo khudbad dheer ka jeediyay baarlamanka hortiisa ayaa sheegay in ay ku heshiiyeen in la soo dhiso xukuumad kooban oo ka madax banaan golaha baarlamanka, isagoo xusay in xukuumada soo socota laga soo dhisi doono baarlamanka ka banaanka. “hadaad ahaydeen laba baarlamaaan, maanta waxaa la idiin gartay in aan noqotaan xukuumad kooban iyo baarlamankii oo badan, laba baarlamaan oo isla eg baan noqonay oo qolo walba ayadaa isku codeysay sidaasi ayay wax u dhaceen†ayuu yiri C/llaahi Yuusuf. “dawladii hore wey baxaysaa ra’iisal wasaaraha baa haraya, waxa ayna noqonaysa xukuumada lasoo dhisaya mid ku kooban 31 wasiir†ayuu sii raaciyay. Madaxweyne Yuusuf, guddoomiye Shariif Xasan iyo ra’iisal wasaare Geedi ayaa ka hor akhriyay baarlamanka hortiisa waxyaabihii ay ku heshiiyeen, waxaana ka mid ahaa waxyaabihii ay ku heshiiyeen. 1) In la rido xukuumada Cali Maxamed Geedi, balse laga soo reebo ra’iisal wasaraha oo qura. 2) In xukuumada la soo dhisayo ay noqoto mid laga soo dhiso golaha baarlamanka ka banaanka. 3) In xukuumadu ay ku koobnaato 31 wasiir iyo ku xigeenadooda. 4) In xukuumada muddo 10 maalmood ah lagu soo dhiso Xildhibaanada baarlamanka ayaa si diiran u soo dhaweeyay heshiiska ay gaareen madaxda sare ee dawlada, waxa uuna madaxweynaha ka codsaday ra’iisal wasaare Geedi in uu soo magacaabo aqoonyahano iyo shaqsiyaad gudan kara waajibaadka saran. Heshiiskan ay gaareen madaxda sare ee dawladda ayaa waxaa ka soo shaqeysay dawlada Ethiopia oo wafdi heer sare ah u soo dirtay magaalada Baydhabo, kaasi oo ku guulaystay in uu dhameeyo khilaafkii wiiqay dawladda cagaha badan aan ku taagneyn.