It seems the old guard is up to its old tricks. Beware of these old farts that destroyed Somalia

Where's rudy when you need him

^This is what happens when one reduces everything to an abstraction-weeds out the details so they could focus few concepts merely to promote or codify their own beliefs. It is simplistic way of looking at the world though it sounds highly intelligent.

^Half of the time I don't know what yu say, but somehow you make the most sense!

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^I welcome any time an idividual comes back from the abyss. Let's not call each other names now :cool:

LooooooooL@Duke...Boowe don't get your hopes, I was merely arguing for an equitable distributions of any potential revenues. Waa maal lada leeyahay! Peace...How much would the oil companies take and over what period?

LoooooooL@get the economy...He could start by curbing the runaway inflation and improving security for commerce. Waxii yaraa lagu aamini waaye maxaa wax kawayn sheegay. Duke..Puntland looks like a state within state. You can't have your cake and eat it too

^Understood, but still wondering about the legality of the deal since wuxu xoolo qaran ee yihiin hence the property of all Somali people and the central goverment.

Nicolas Sarkozy today strongly denied reports that three people were killed in a French military operation against Somalian pirates. The French President "categorically denied" claims from eyewitnesses that French helicopters fired rockets at the pirates this afternoon, soon after they released 30 hostages from a captured luxury yacht off the Somalian coast. Eight other people were reportedly wounded and eight more captured in the operation, which took place in the Garaad district of Northern Somalia. “I could see clouds of smoke as six helicopters were bombing the pirates. The pirates were also firing anti-aircraft machine guns in reaction. I cannot tell the exact casualties,” Mohamed Ibrahim, an eyewitness, said. The district commissioner of Garaad described how the helicopters landed and troops jumped out to grab members of a group of 14 pirates who had just come ashore. “Local residents came out to the see the helicopters on the ground. The helicopters took off and fired rockets on the vehicles and the residents there, killing five local people,” Commissioner Abdiaziz Olu-Yusuf Mohamed said. French officials said that the operation was conducted with minimal use of force for fear of causing collateral damage. The pirates, part of a group known as “the Somali Marines”, seized the Le Ponant yacht last Friday in the Gulf of Aden. Onboard were 30 crew members, 22 of them French. They sailed 32-cabin, three-masted vessel to Puntland, a breakaway northern region of Somalia. Francois Fillon, the Prime Minister, deployed France’s elite counter-terrorism and hostage rescue unit to tracked the ship using helicopters and a naval vessel, but said authorities would not resort to force. After protracted negotiations between the ship owner and the pirates, all 30 crew members were eventually released this morning. In a statement, Sarkozy expressed “his deep gratitude to the French army forces and all the state services who helped bring about a quick end, without incident, to this hostage taking." The French authorities maintain that soldiers simply arrested six pirates and flown them to a navy ship. Jean-Louis Georgelin, chief of the armed forces, said a Gazelle helicopter with a sniper on board had fired at a vehicle containing a pirate but that “no shots were fired directly at the pirates.” “The shot from the first Gazelle was enough to stop the vehicle and get out the pirates, who gave themselves up without too much difficulty,” he said. Valerie Garrec, whose 20-year-old son Thibaut was among the hostages, praised Sarkozy’s handling of the crisis after receiving a call from the president’s office announcing the good news around midday today. “They said they were free and safe and we don’t know anything more. Now I am waiting to speak to my son by phone,” Ms Garrec said from her home in Brittany, northern France. Bernard Kouchner, the Foreign Minister, said preparations were being made to return the freed hostages to France as soon as possible. The hostages were apparently being held by the “Somali Marines,” described as the most powerful gang of pirates operating off the country’s coast. Mr Kouchner on Friday urged the international community to take action to fight piracy in the Gulf of Aden and off the Somali coast and said talks were underway at the United Nations on the issue. web page

^The Ethiopian influence will eventually wane,but would the Somalis make peace or revert back to violence. The underlying problem would still remain. Like always it seems there might not be plan to bring the country back together. It is actually easier to dislodge Ethios than it is to have Somalis settle diffirences peacefully.

Originally posted by somalipride: They have gotten several signatures from the leader of the central government President Abdullahi Yusuf in support of this project. Is the parlaiment suppose to approve or can the president can arbitrarily sign off on anything. And there is such obvious conflict of interests. Duke...How would the revenues be split between the TFG, Pland, and those drilling the oil percentage wise.

^He might have miscalculated, but there will always be those that will do his bidding for him even his army were to withdraw. Geeljire...It is bluntly direct insult not just to his puppets but all Somalis most whom watched as Xamer was blown to bits.He knows with complete certainty his words will not arouse any passions in the average Somali.

Wouldn't this be xoolo Qaran, and doesn't Puntland fall under the TFG jurisdiction, hence subject to its law when it comes to oil exploration. How could a province within Somalia make dealings with foriegn companies without getting pleasings from the central goverment?

Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: Compulsive Liar Maybe so, but he is right on the money as it regards to his views about Somalis An oversupply of national sentiment is not the problem in Somalia. The problem in Somalia is a lack of it . The problem in Somalia is an oversupply of sub-sub-clannish attitude It is pathetic how easy we made it for Ethiopains.

Originally posted by Xaaji_xundjuf: its all based on clan ideology not based on somalinimo This is a case of kettle calling the bottom black! Suldaanka....Zenawi waa kala dhoontaaye. If Sool man wants to curve out his little clan fiefdom,and becomes the next stooge that caters to Ethio, so be it.

iidamada ethopianka oo gaadhay Tukaraq.xagay ku socdaan? Wararka naga soo gaadhaya Caasimadda dawlad Goboleedka Puntland ee Garoowe ayaa sheegaya in Hal-guuto oo ciidamada Ethopianka ah ay soo gaadheen maamul goboleedka puntland,kuwaasoo ayaamahanba ku sugnaa Deegaanka uu ka taliyo maamulku,iyadoo la caddeeyey inay gaadheen ilaa iyo magaalada xeebta ah ee Boosaaso. Mar aan xidhiidh la sameeyey mid ka mid ah saraakiisha sar sare ee daraawiishta ee ku sugan jiida hore ayaa waxa uu ii xaqiijiyey in ciidamadani soo gaadheen Tukaraq iyagoo intii aanay iman tukaraq salaan sharaf kaga soo qaatay taliska ciidamada ee garoowe.ciidamdan oo uu sarkaalku sheegay inay yihiin {Hal guuto}oo aad u hubaysan, ayaa Janaralaakii watay waxa uu la soo kulmay Saraakiil sar sare iyo Madaxweynaha maamulgoboleedka Puntland {Janaral Cadde Muuse}iyagoo aan la garanayn ila hadda waxa ay kawada hadleen labada janaraal. Sarkaalka ayaa waxaa uu caddeeyey inay ciidamadu indha indhayn ku sameeyeen meelaha ay fadhiyaan ciidamda daraawiishtu iyo jiidaha hore oo ay isku hor fadhiyaan labada ciidan ee puntland iyo somaliland. Mar aan wax ka waydiiyey in ay dagaal si wadajir ah ula gali doonaan ciidanka daraawiishta iyo ciidamada ethopianka ah {ciidamda riyaale} ee ay is hor fadhiyaan ciidankiina daraawiishtu ayaa waxaa uu ku sheegay waxba kamajiraan inay tahay arintaasi macquulna aanay noqonkarin. QIIMEYNTA CIIDA Warar hordhac oo ay ka heshay shabakadda boocame ilo xogogaala ayaa waxay sheegayaan in ciidamadani ay gaadhi doonaan ilaa iyo magaalada hargeysa iyagoo ka gudbaya jiidaha ay isku horfadhiyaan ee aagagga Laas caanood ciidamada daraawiishta iyo ciidanka maamulka riyaale.inkastoo dadka qaar ay leeyihiin waxaa macquula inay kala dhexgalaan si ay u sii haystaan maamulka riyaale Laas caanood,warar aan caddeyn ayaa waxay sheegayaan in ciidamadini ay u yimaaddeen ceelka badroolka oo ayaamaahan saxaafaddu ka qoraysay inay Ethopianka la siiyey 10% hase ahaatee aan wali caddeyn. ciidamadan Ethopianka ah ayaa waxay ku soo beegmeen xili uu maamulka cadde muuse qarka u saaran yahay inuu burburo ka dib markay soo wajahday kalsooni daro soo kala dhexgashay shacabka Puntland iyo maamulka cadde muuse,waxay kaloo ku soo beegmeen xili ay bil ka hor yimaaddeen saraakiil sar sare oo Ethopian ah magaalooda Garoowe ayna u sheegeen saraakiisha iyo maamulka cadde inay u tababaraan ciidomo beeleedyada tirada badan ee lagu ururiyey Tukaraq iyo ciidamda puntland, halkaasoo ay diiden sarakiisha ciidamda iyo isimada sscda oo qaadacay inaan wax ciidan ah loo tababarayn ee ay tahay mashquulin.iyadoo ay ku eedeeyeen in Ethopianku ay gacan lexaadleh kulahaayeen qabsashada laascaanood.hase ahaatee ay sheegeen inay ciidamo uun u tababareen maamulka Hargeysa iyagana doonayaan inay u tababaraan ciidamo hoosyimaadda dawladda fadaraalka ah, waxaa jira ayaamahan buuq siyaasadeed oo soo kala dhexgalay beelaha sscda iyo Puntland ka dibmarkii ay arki waayeen waxtaageera ah oo uu ka gaysanayo maamulka cadde arinta lascaanood,hase ahaatee waxaa jira culus aan cidina ogayn oo cadde muuse ka haysta xagga dawaladda Ethopianka oo diiday ama kula taliyey inuu san wax dagaala qaadin. waxaa jirtay isballaadhin baaxadleh oo ay wadaan ciidamada Ethopianku iyagoo beryahanba ay isku ballaadhinayaa dhamaan gobolada soomaliya oo dhan,iyagoo sidoo kale maanta gaadhay magaalada Baraawe ee gobolka shabeelada hoose,halka ay ciidankale oo Ethopian ah ay ka gudbeen magaalada luuq ee gobolka gedo.ciidamo kale oo tiro badan iyo ciidamada dawladda ayaa waxay fadhiyaan meel u jirta 40km magaalada Bu-aale arinta oo ay ka danbayso dawladda fadaraalka ahi. mar aan wax ka waydiiyey hadaba dubli maasi sare oo Ethopian ah oo ku sugan dalka maraykanka ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in dawladda Ethopia ay sxb dhaw latahay labada maamul ee Puntland iyo somalilandba iyo dawladda fadaraalka ah,hase ahaatee iyagu ay dawlad ahaan ku shaqeeyaan siyaasadda dawladda fadaraalka ah,ee aanay ku shaqayn siyaasadda maamulada Hargeysa iyo Garoowe ayna tagi karaan ciidamada ethopianku meelkasta oo Dawallada fadaraalka ahi ay codsato inay ciidamo u dirto isagoo ka gaabsaday halka ay ku socdaan iyo sababta ay u yimaaddeen. ILAHA DAWLADDA wararka xaqiiqda ah ee aan ka hello ilaha masuuliyiinta dawladda u dhuun daloola ayaa waxay sheegayaan iyagoo kalsooni muujinaya inay qaban doonaan ciidamda dawladdaiyo kuwa ethopianku dhamaan koonfurta soomaliya bilaha foodda inagu soo haya ugu danbayna bisha juun2008ka iyadoo dhawaan la filayo inay soo galaan ciidamo farabadan oo horle hoo Ethopian ah. kala soco wararkale oo badan boocame.com suxufi harun xiinfiniin1@hotmail.com Boocame Online news warbaahinta Qarniga Cusub!! Boocame@hotmail.com or Boocame@gmail.com

Originally posted by Geel_jire: The topic is about Somalia not Ethiopia you got mixed up .......... understandable We could do without that if there is to be meaningful debate. We are already know Koora camp,your camp and "negotiate" camp stand. No need to insinuate or mock each other for our stance.

Originally posted by Zafir: No! You and I and Cara and Duke being related Che. What is the matter with you. Do you really to wanna tell everyone that our moms are of Tigray extraction. That's not popular thing these days. LooooooooL@Naxar...I and Naxar are at diffirent poles. We couldn't be farther Jimcaale. KK....Waa faayaa Ayeeyo. Adigu say ii tahay. Cid aan isku dhiig nahay ma jidho other than you...Well you are more like my honory Ayeeyo

I have seen it last night. It pissed off to see how Gen Powell was humiliated and how Condi who then was the national security advisor had little say. And the neocons rendered the entire State Department and the CIA useless!

^Which is, KK being related to Didi?

^I found out you are related to Didi Kong I'm not related to anyone in here.

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: Che, Those weapons to the Republic of Somaliland. Then why do the weapons need to be handed over if they already belonged to Somaliland. Don't people and regions that disagree with Somaliland independence have the right to violently oppose secession.

Those tanks are the property of the Somali republic right? Jb....What happen to answering the my questions?

You sound dejected,let's not go into melancholy mood!

26. Drive for 3 - 4 miles 27. Release hand brake That actually happaned to people I know