I'm too cynical or have been around too many American Evangelicals with mega Churches, I'm always suspicious of 'non-profit' religious organization with just doting affection for their respective religion.

HIIRAAN ONLINE E D I T O R I A L Tuesday, July 08, 2008 In Somalia, the murder of the society’s notables and innocent foreigners—especially aid workers—is becoming an epic problem. In the past number of years, unknown dark forces eliminated hundreds of important and innocent Somalis and visitors from other countries. This space is not big enough to list the names of the victims assassinated in Somalia. In fact, as we were drafting this editorial piece, we were shocked to read about the news of yet another cold-blooded murder. The collective failure of the government and the opposition forces to halt these assassinations (if they are not involved in them) ought to produce another grassroots, people-owned revolution against these horrific, un-Islamic and un-Somali murders. Just to pinpoint some of the victims would illustrate the breadth and depth of the premeditated and politically motivated assassinations in Somalia. On Sunday July 6, 2008, we are reading about the execution of Osman Ali Ahmed, the chief of UNDP- Somalia, Mogadishu Office. The victim was gunned down as he was leaving a mosque where he performed evening prayers. On Sunday June 21, 2008, Eng. Mohamed Hassan Kulmiye was assassinated in Beledweyne, where he tirelessly worked in the areas of peace and reconciliation. He left behind seven children. On Wednesday July 2, 2008, Abdikarim Sheikh Ibrahim, a well-known Somali businessman who campaigned for Somali orphans, was killed in Mogadishu. The victim assisted over one thousand orphans. On Monday June 30, 2008, Siyad Orow, the head of local charity organization working with WFP was kidnapped and later killed. On Saturday June 7, Nasteh Dahir Farah, a reporter with BBC, was murdered in Kismayo. This shocking and partial list of murdered Somalis was in the months of June and July alone. Many others where killed in the previous years and they are too numerous to list. As a reminder, let us mention some of the victims of the assassination spree in Somalia. On Wednesday February 9, 2005, Kate Peyton, a BBC producer was killed just moments after she arrived in Mogadishu. On Friday June 23, 2006, Martin Adler, a Swedish photojournalist, was killed in a broad daylight assassination while he was filming a Mogadishu rally. On August 11, 2007, Mahad Ahmed Elmi, a radio talk-show host, was murdered outside his radio station. Ali Iman Sharmarke, the co-owner of Hornafrik was murdered after he returned from the funeral of his assassinated colleague, Mahad Elmi. On November 4, 2004, Mohamed Abdi Mohamed, a well-respected Somali general, was shot and killed on his way back from morning prayers. He passed away five days latter in a Nairobi hospital. On July 11, 2005 Abdulkadir Yahaya Ali, was murdered in an execution-style killing at his home in Mogadishu. On Friday July 28, 2006, Abdalla Derow Isak, a Minister with the TFG and the Former Speaker of the Somali Parliament, was killed as he left a local mosque in Baidoa; he just finished Friday prayers; and on and on and on… Most probably, the men who pulled the trigger of the guns that silenced these victims did not know their targets. Most likely, the victims did not cause any harm to their killers, for how the late Ms. Kate Peyton of BBC who was in Mogadishu in mere hours, crossed anybody. These people died because someone or some group marked them to die. Similarly, in every assassination, there was more than one assailant, as well plenty of eyewitnesses, who saw the unfolding horrific crimes. It also plausible to assume, in addition to the culprits who carry out the killings, there are others who are privy to the planning and other information concerning to the murderers we have chronicled as well as other hundreds of killings that we did not mention. To put it differently, the victims the Somalia assassinations did not die in an uninhabited desert. Many people know about these crimes. Many theories abound about the perpetrator and their motives. Conjecture is not the best root to solve crimes. There are time-proven methods to solve murders. It is called homicide investigation. Somalia has had experienced criminologists; also there are many Diaspora Somalis who honed their skills in this field. Our society is also known for its propensity to divulge secrets. There is no way that the killings of hundreds of people could be covered forever. Diaspora Somalis should seek the support and cooperation of the criminologists in the host-lands. There are sophisticated ways and means to bring justice, not only to the killers of the innocents in Somalia, but also the masterminds behind the killing spree. The file of every assassinated victim in Somalia should be an open file… justice must prevail. Doing nothing about the assassination spree in Somalia and allowing criminals to get away with the murders of the best and brightest is as bad as the killings itself. Send your comments to: editorial@hiiraan.com

You know Duke, when Cadde's admin willfully became party to the massacres in Xamer, the least he could have done was to forsee the consequences of Puntland's involvement in the south. There are ramifications for siding with the Woyanes, but that's not to justify the murders of civilians and targeting of non-military instlations. This latest murder is 10th or 12th one in as many weeks, we have yet to see any substantive measures taken to secure the city. True, it's big city with many exits, but let's be honest Somalis know each other and have tendency to spill guts to each other.With enough determination and proper procedures, the so called admin can atleast pinpoint where and who the attacks coming from. So far no measures have been taken. And while you blame all problems on others whether "clanist courts" or warmongers all whom by the way are justifiably angry, you turn blind eye to what got us here in the first place. It's utter failure of the morons running the place. The people know it, the Culumma know it, and the traditional leaders know it obviously as evidenced by latest declarations from Garowe. I know accountability is not word one could find in your dictionary but atleast be little introspective next time before you shoot off about exeternal enemies. Little self-criticism won't kill you.

Blunder after blunder, you have been saying the samething. How long it does to acknowledge things are going the wrong the direction or you would be blaming external invisible forces like Uusay does everytime prominent person is murdered, and another town secedes to Hargeysa. Can anyone seriously expect Cadde's presence in Galkayo would make diffirence. The man is baffoon with no intellectual capicity to lead any governmental entity militarly or administratively. As if high inflation, general insecurity and loss of territory weren't enough to alarm him , the man deals with every emergency situation like it is nothing out of ordinary. It's time for the general public, the traditional leaders,and Culuma throw his admin under the bus.

^Are we getting paid?

Yeey and Uusay reer Puntland waa inay ka tashadaan. This can't go on any longer.

Source? And where do they get the numbers from?

^lay off the mushrooms

Puntland on the otherhand is nothing more than a club where a group of gangsters, pirates, hijackers, human traffickers and money launderers share their loots, masquerading as 'politicians'. Couldn't agree more.The men running this place are shameless. A change and new direction is in order!!!!

A&T...I don't think I wanna be between you and anything. It's like getting in the way of Pamplona bull.I'm merely pulling Ibti into safe alley where she's safe from your rampage on these threads.

AT-You over-active imagination is getting the better of you. Get grip!

^You sound like an obsessive complusive schizophrenic. I don't think he would even ask for explanation.

Junaid Jamshed of the vital signs?

^So, you support Ethio policy in Somaligalbeed I'm Yankee fan :cool:

Red....That's why I mentioned Kulahaa. Naga qaley ninyahow..Here's another dacwo..never ending it seems web page

ABU MANSUR: “Baidao is the last defence of the enemy therefore we call upon all mujahideen to come to Baidao”. Hiiraan Online Tuesday, July 08, 2008 Mogadishu, Somalia (HOL) - In a press conference through a telephone, the spokesman for Al-Shabab Movement Sheik Muktar Rabow Abu Mansur claimed that Al-Shabab Movement was behind mortar attacks on five different locations in the city of Baidao. Abu Mansur said the attacks inflicted damages on the enemy and Transitional Federal Government (TFG) troops. “Baidoa is the last defence of the enemy troops therefore I call upon all Mujahideen forces to come to Baidao” said Abu Mansur. The spokesman added that Ethiopian and TFG troops are hiding the casualties they suffered as a result of last night’s attack and are also refusing the public to see the areas that were targeted in last night’s attacks. Abu Mansur added that Al-Shabab forces are stationed on the four corners of the city’s outskirts and that they will continue their attacks on both Ethiopian and TFG troops. We are telling those who serve Ethiopians to seek shelter where Ethiopians are because Baidao will be in the hands of the Mujaheen”, said Abu Mansur who added that Baidao was the only city that was not attacked but now is under attacks. On the other hand, Abu Mansur talked about the killing of Osman Ali Ahmed, head of UNDP in Mogadishu two nights ago saying that “we condemn those behind his killing and we have a feeling that those behind his killing had special interest in his death or had projects which he (the deceased) refused to approve” said Abu Mansur who added that they have nothing to do with the killings of those serving residents in Mogadishu. © 2008 Hiiraan Online Inc.

Ethios and their lackeys seem to be losing control if they can't even defend the nerve center of their operations in Somalia. web page Many more shall come Paragon though war in another urban center will be devastating for all. People are already fleeing Beledweyne.

Islamist rebels attack Somali government HQ Tue Jul 8, 2008 10:12 AM BST BAIDOA, Somalia (Reuters) - Heavily armed Islamist rebels have attacked the presidential palace and key installations in the Somali government's Baidoa headquarters, killing at least four soldiers, officials said on Tuesday. Witnesses said mortar bombs fired by the insurgents late on Monday also hit the airport and a large refurbished warehouse that serves as the parliament of the Western-backed interim administration. "Several mortar shells landed on us, killing three troops," Ibrahim Ali Isak, a guard at Baidoa's high-walled presidential palace, said by telephone. Seven of his colleagues were injured and taken to hospital, where medical sources said one of them died. The attack was carried out by militants of the al-Shabaab, which the United States has listed as a terrorist organisation. A spokesman for the rebels, Sheikh Mukhtar Robow, told Reuters their target was the presidential guards and Ethiopian forces supporting the interim government. Somali Prime Minister Nur Hassan Hussein told reporters in Addis Ababa on Monday that the international community must deploy U.N. peacekeepers in his country without delay, or risk worsening insecurity across the Horn of Africa. Continued... © Reuters 2008. All Rights Reserved.

Weerar lagu qadey magalada Baydhabo 8 Jul 8, 2008 - 6:28:15 PM Ugu yaraan hal askari oo ka tirsan ilaalada madaxtooyada Baydhabo ayaa ku dhintey gantaallo xalay lagu weeraray degmadas oo xarun u ah Baarlamanka DF halka dhaawacu yahay Lix, iyadoo weraradas ay sheegteen Kooxda hubeysan ee Al-shabaab. Saqdii dhexe ee xalay ayaa lagu garaacay Baydhabo madaafiic, iyadoo lala beegsaday garoonka diyaaradaha iyo madaxtooyada, iyadoo rasaas aan badnayn laga maqlay gudaha iyo daafaha magaalada. Afhayenka Al-shabaab Sheekh Mukhtar Rooboow [Abu-Masur] oo saxafadda la hadlay ayaa sheegay inay dagaalkaas iyagu ka dambeyeen, ayna weerarro ku qaadeen saldhigga ciidamada Ethiopia iyo kuwa Dowladda. "Dagaalka aan ku qaadnay Baydhabo wuxuu fure u yahay dagaallo badan oo aan la damacsannahay degmadaas oo ah saldhiggii ugu dambeeyay ee DF iyo ciidamada Ethiopia" ayuu yiri Sheekh Abu-Mansur oo saxaafadda ugu qabtay shir jaraa'id hawada saakay. Askariga ku dhintey iyo kuwa dhaawacmey ayaa wuxuu gantaal hoobiye ah ugu tagey teendho ay ku jireen. Weerarkaan ayaa noqonaya kii ugu horreyay ee ay mucaradku ku qaadaan Baydhabo. Howlwadennada Isbitaalka Baydhabo ayaa waxay shegeen in dhawacyadu ciidamadan ka tirsan ilaalada madaxtooyadu ay yihiin kuwo fudud oo aan darnayn ayna daweyn ku hayan. mana jirto cid ka tirsan DF oo ka hadashay weerarkaas. Dhanka kale, xalay kooxo hubeysan ayaa waxay bam ku turen guriga talyaha sirdonka DF ee Baydhabo Max'ed C/raxman waxaana la dhawacmay xaaskiisa oo ay isku goob ku sugnaayeen. Werarkan bam ayaanay jirin weli cid sheegatay, waxana sidoo kale booliiska Baydhabo ay ku fureen rasaas gaari kuwa dadweynaha ah, iyadoo ay ku dhimatay halkaas gabar yar ayna ku dhaawacmeen afar ruux oo uu ku jiray wadihii gaarigaas. Baydhabo ayaa xalay xalay waxay ahayd meel aad u kacsan, iyadoo maanta ay tahay mid aad u daggan, waxaana weeraradaan ay kusoo beegmayaan xilli ay socdaan shirarka baarlamaanka Somalia. Garowe Online, Baydhabo

^Maybe reer Kismayo aka reer Waamo need to learn thing or two from them

^Maybe reer Kismayo aka reer Waamo need to learn thing or two from them

^Are you talking the one in Decator if I'm recalling it right. It's like ceelgaab. And why are they so many waffle houses in Metro Atlanta. There's more waffle in per square mile than other place in the place or atleast so I think.

The discussion reminds of this guy However we feel about SNM and whatever we think about them, they have a history to tell and their people have achievements to boast without caring too much about the condemnations coming from outsiders like us. To further the case of Snm's achievements, ironically we don't belong to Snm and we never had, but we celebrate with them on their successes. And our politicians, opposition or otherwise "Udub and Kulmiye" all commemorate Snm victory and speak loudly from the crowds with the intention of praising snm achievements even if that includes Awdal's blood. More embarrassingly, our children study Snm history in school. What more can we say about snm? I am not necessarily calling a party which would be against Somaliland existence but I am calling for a party which seek awdali's fair share in Somaliland by any means and if that includes bloodbath in the streets of Borama so be it. Even those that support secession feel some alienation, but the idea of formenting to get fair share is horribly misguided. web page

Paragon..There will be consequences if they don't conform to this disguided, but reer Awdal are not helpless and weak. Hargeysa will have the upper inintially but in the end no Somali tribe can subjugate any Somali tribe. One might win few battles but war will go on. But one thing reer Awdal would worry is that Hargeysa unlike many other Somali tribes are singlemindly united in what cause they decide to undertake. You would see other Somalis switch sides and side with the "enemy" on occasion much like reer Gedo siding Galgaduud or Qaybdiid being welcomed in Galkayo, laakin you would never see clan X you Ceyrow put it splitting and joining the "enemy". In that sense, reer Awdal might have to worry since Hargeysa will definately united in their drive to ensure conformity. LooooooooL@AT..My fingers and my mind were not well coordinated. I meant you work for uncle Sam. It's case of tuug intaa tuug dhihin ku dhahaa. Hello Lazy.