Aaliyah-Think about something dreadful.And I heard of lot sex helps speed the metabolism.

^Playing hide and seek.

^same old line I see

Ibti-There are only four major tribes in Somalia, and the civil war was fought along tribal lines. SNM was entirely made of particular community, so was SSDf, and USC. To tie Sool, Awdal, and Sanaag to SNM struggle and assume these communities have the same interests and outlooks is major mistake. The issue was never south vs north. It was simply Qabiils asserting themselves and fighting for own their interests. So, let every Qabiil speak for itself. Let every major tribe their own reconciliation, and there could one national reconciliation between the four major tribes that could determine Somalia's future. P.S. Awdal, Sool and Sanaag have greivances just like all other Somalis, but the point i'm trying to make is they don't feel the Somali government was subjugating them in any particular way, atleast not more than the rest of Somalia. They do realise the Somali government was non-discriminatory when it comes the treatment of citizens.I don't think Hargeysa, Burco, and Berbera communities share those thoughts. LooooooooL@Castro

Ibti-What collective grievances do the communities in Awdal, Sool and Sanaag have against south. No member in these communities has ever pick arms against the former Somali government. They share the same grievances any other Somali has. They want good governance, better development,and justice for all. They were never collectively punished or particularly targeted. And they fully participated in all aspects of the Somali government. To put them in the same boat as communities from Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera who strongly feel the entire south and not just the government had in it for them would be mistake. These communities have diverse interests and unique grievances which can't be channelled and adequately addressed through the Somaliland admin. I say let every Somali tribe speak for themselves rather than sitting together on the false pretense. This is civil war and not war between coutries.

Ibti-I can't speak for Xiin, but I never supported extending the Somali conflict into north.If anything it's Hargeysa's admin drive into the east that's risking war and I have opposed that too,and those regions that oppose secession have the right to defend themselves. But I gotta admit Hargeysa has played its cards right and used the locals to farther secessionist agenda. If Red is for sitting down with the south when it's stabilized, I'm actually for that.But he's gotta realise the Somali institutions broke down to primal level. Any reconcialation has to be comprehensive and between all Somali communities(Qabiils). I don't see Somaliland admin as entity that could speak on behalf of the northern citizens. Each region of Somalia including all Somaliland regions have to make their own case, address their interests, and air their greivances. I appluad Somaliland as entity that ensured peaceful coexistence of the northern Somali, but I very much oppose this political entity to speak on behalf of the north. I'm spefically talking about the Hargeysa admin. It shouldn't be matter of two countries talking, but it should be chance for all Somalis to sit and iron out diffirences and make every Somali citizen get their fair share in the context of one Somalia reconciling with itself. As for him supporting Al-Shabaab, I welcome his support and I'm very appreciative of the fact that he realises Al-Shabaab is for one Somalia. If he's willing to support them with fact in mind, then great.

Ibti-Now we just need more disgruntled secessionists preferably from Hargaysa P.S. Ibti, Let's not pull Red's I support Al-Shabaab but I'm pro seccesion next time marka.

^No, we have enough wars and enough dead maryooley!!

Ibti- I fully oppose secession and I welcome any party in the north that supports union with the south. If reer Awdal cease to support secession, kudos to them. I'm fully behind them. I hope that makes it clear enough.

^Ibti-It's matter of being honest about one's political motives.

Originally posted by rudy-Diiriye: sland militia run back when they heard jaat kii baa so dacay. then pland militia run east cuz they heard that there was an indian ship sailing down the coast. Priceless

Originally posted by Cara: Aha, but is it over snooker? Do you gamble?

^Re-arrange...LooooooooooooL Maybe those you come across can't carry Macawis or Suurgaal well Ohhh..Helooooooooooo Lazy

^If there was a sole progenitor, all his males descendents could easily trace their ancestry through Y-chromosome which remains mostly unchanged from one generation to another. It passes down from a father, to son, grandson, great grandson,etc, etc. It would be interesting to do genetic genealogy on Somalis for academic purposes, of course it might have other repercussions. So Xiin and Naxar, do wanna volunteer DNA samples

I wonder how he feels about his treacherous sons And is it coincidence his tomb(considering that's actually him down there that's he existed at all) is painted blue and white. I love the name Doonbira though.

Ayeeyo...Dadkaan maad iska deysid.

^The attacks weren't ofcourse unexpected, but the man they killed is apolitical, a nice wadaad guy who was very involved in the community development. He was the pillar of the city and served all the community regardless of Qabiil and political affiliation. I talked to my family last nite, and they said the city is very tense. Everybody wishes this won't spark war, but the Puntland (Insert Qabiil) feel they need to make statement and go after those they think are responsible the recent killings. Of course, the prime suspects are those from southern Galkayo and Guriceel. There were 10 to 12 murders in the span of few weeks, and many tolerated, but the murder of Ina Biixi hit many people hard since he played such big role in the community. No skirmishes so far, and according the folks, waala isku hub aruursanayaa.

Waikato Times By DEBORAH CUMING Friday, July 11, 2008 KELLY HODEL/Waikato Times Ajiil Farah's entry to the New Zealand Army did not go quite to plan he broke his collarbone playing rugby soon after enlisting. But yesterday the Hamilton Somali community proudly celebrated Mr Farah's recent graduation from the Waiouru Army training centre as New Zealand's first Somali-born soldier. They "ambushed" Ajiil Farah, 23, throwing a surprise party at Hamilton's Waikato Migrant Centre. There were speeches by Somali community leaders and officials, including Hamilton East MP David Bennett. "I didn't know it was going to happen," a shy Ajiil said after the speeches and formalities. "I didn't have anything prepared." Despite the surprise, Ajiil said he was proud to have the opportunity to thank his community for their support, and praised New Zealand for the opportunity he was given when he and his family moved from war-torn Somalia six years ago. "The biggest success for me is being able to show my community that they can do anything in this country that they want to to do, especially the young people coming up," he said. "It was good to hear the community is proud of me because, in the beginning, people were saying `oh you are crazy to join the army'. "But now they see that I have done it. If I can do it, they can do it. "It was really hard for me to get into the army because of the language barrier and they had never seen a Somalian person come to them and say they wanted to join. They thought it was a joke. "They gave me the form and said `okay, come back next week and we will see what we can do'. I went there the next morning and they saw something in me, that I was ready." A New Zealand Army television advertisement sowed the idea of joining up and Ajiil gained the support of Somali Friendship Society president Mohamed Khalif Abdi and the Migrant Youth Training and Work Service. Mr Abdi said the community was proud of Ajiil and that he was an inspiration for young people. "Most of my community do taxi driving and things like that," Mr Farah said. The collarbone break did not slow Ajiil down, and now is considering the offer of a tour of duty in Afghanistan next year. Source: Waikato Times, July 11, 2008

Originally posted by Xidigo*: Che, you forgot to invite Oodwayne to the party Only if he's dressed as Xaawo Taako draped in blue and white with pink sandals.

Coming out party for NGONGE web page I wanna the world to know :cool:

Qaraxii Gilgilay Magaalada Garoowe Ee Puntland {Garoowe}10-7-08Qarax xoogan oo geystay qasaare nafeed oo dhimasho iyo dhaawac isugu jira ayaa waxaa uu ka dhacay magaalada Garowe ee caasimadda u ah maamul goboleedka Puntland. Qaraxani ayaa u ekaa mid la soo abaabulay iyada oo ay Maalmihii ugu danbeeyay ay ka taagnaayeen Xaalad Amaan daro Magaalooyinka Puntland sida habeen hore oo markii laga soo baxay Saladii Subax lagu Dilay Ganacsade Nabadoon caan ka ahaa Magaalada Gaalkacyo, Beesha Dagtaa ay ku eedaysay Dhinaca Koonfureed Beesha dagto. Ilaa iyo haatan lama garanayo halka uu Qaraxaasi ka dhacay iyo sida uu u dhacay wallow warar la isla dhexmarayo uu yahay in Qaraxni uu ahaa mid Qorshaysan oo lala eeganayay Baabuur wadadaasi maraysay. Qaraxan oo aan la ogeyn waxa uu yahay iyo cidda geysatay ayaa la sheegayaa in ay ku geeriyoodeen labo qofood oo rayid ah isla markana tiro dad ah ay ku dhawacmeen, iyadoo aan la ogeyn cidda lala rabay. Horaantii sanadkan ayay ahayd tiro ka baxan 20- oo dadkii u soo qaxay ah Magaalada Boosaaso kana soo jeeda Itobiya gaar ahaan Qabiilk Oromada ah lala eergtay Goob ama xaafadooda Qaraxa Miinada dhulka laga hago ah oo ay tiro gaadhaysa ilaa 20- iyo dhaawac gaadhaya 30- ay halkaasi ka dhaceen. Widhwidh Online News Desk…Media Center

Gaalkacyo: Labo qof oo caawa lagu dilay magaalada Gaalkacyo 10. Juli 2008 Gaalkacyo(AllPuntland)-Fiidnimadii caawa ayaa labo qof oo rayid ah ku geeriyootay is rasaaseyn dhex martay labo dhinac oo ku sugnaa xadka kala bara Koonfurta magaalada Gaalkacyo iyo Waqooyiga, kadib markii nin ku sugnaa meesha shilkan uu ka dhacay la soo weeraray. Wararka laga helayo magaaladaasi ayaa sheegaya in koox dhalinyaro ah ay soo weerareen nin halkaasi ku sugnaa kaasoo la sheegay in horay uu u dilay dad, isla markaana kuwa soo weeraray ay ahaayeen kuwo ka duulayey aanadaasi qabiil ee horay u dhacday. Labada qof ee geeriyootay ayaa waxaa ay ahaayeen dad rayid ah oo aan ku lug laheyn khilaafkaasi, waxaana arintan lagu tilmaamay mid aano qabiil oo u dhaxeysa dhalinyaradaasi oo dhamaantood ku nool koonfurta magaalada Gaalkacyo. Falkan ayaa ku soo beegmay xili magaaladaasi ay ka jiraan xiisado kacsan oo dhinaca amaanka ah, waxaana gudaha magaalada Gaalkacyo ka socda howlgalo ay ciidamada Booliska Puntland wadaan oo ay wax ugu qabanayaan amaanka magaalada Gaalkacyo. Shalay iyo maanta ayaa waxaa ka dhacayey bannaanbaxyo ay dhigayeen dad careysan oo ka soo horjeeda falalka dilka ah ee ka dhacayey maalmahan magaalada Gaalkacyo ee xarunta Gobolka Mudug. C.M.Cali AllPuntland.

By Andrea Szobolits in Budapest, Hungary Thursday, July 10, 2008 BUDAPEST, Hungary, July 10 (UNHCR) – Samira Németh is adjusting remarkably well in Hungary, considering the trauma and hardship the 18-year-old endured in her native Somalia before reaching Budapest. The young woman has also discovered a whole new set of relatives since being resettled last month with UNHCR help in the land of her father, a Hungarian national who made a life for himself in Somalia until his murder by gunmen in Mogadishu in 2005. And there is more good news on the horizon; the rest of her family – mother Herera and four siblings in Somalia and a brother in Kenya – may be allowed to join Samira and her long-lost brother Sandor in Hungary. Somalia has been a volatile country ever since the overthrow of the Siad Barre regime in 1991, but Samira never thought of leaving until the death of her father, Lajos Németh, and three of his other children in the 2005 attack. And even then, she decided to hang on in Mogadishu – even as the security situation deteriorated in the Somali capital in 2006 and 2007, causing tens of thousands to flee – in the hope that her surviving relatives, who fled after the killings, would return. "I never gave up hope that I would see my sisters and brothers and my mother again," recalled Samira, who continued going to school and was taken care of by a neighbour. "But finally, my caretaker told me my only option to stay alive was to flee to Kenya and seek asylum in Dadaab." In January, she took the advice and crossed the border into north-east Kenya, where she found shelter as a refugee in the sprawling Dadaab camps, home to some 190,000 Somali refugees. But her problems were not over. Samira found herself facing unwelcome attention from a much older Somalia man, who wanted to marry her so that he could get to Europe. Her mixed blood also caused problems in Dadaab. "My skin is much lighter and I have always looked different. I have always been mocked by other children, but I could cope with it as long as I had my family by my side," she said, adding: "In Dadaab, I decided not to go to school to avoid the curious eyes of other people." But this, ironically, worked in her favour because a UNHCR worker noticed her absence from class and went to talk to her. Her story soon came out and UNHCR, armed with documentary proof of Samira's ancestry, contacted the Hungarian authorities. Her case was rushed through the system and on June 18, with help from UNHCR and non-governmental organization Hungarian Baptist Aid, she arrived in Budapest from Nairobi on her new Hungarian passport. There were a couple of surprises in store. The Hungarians had discovered that her older brother Sándor, who had disappeared from her life years earlier, was living in Hungary, while Samira's paternal aunt and uncle were alive and living in a village near the southern city of Pécs. Sándor had reached Hungary a few months earlier with a group of Somali asylum seekers and was living in a refugee reception centre. He was soon reunited with the sister he had not seen in seven years, while their aunt and uncle agreed to provide them with a new home. Samira's finally getting to do the kinds of things that young people her age take for granted in many countries around the world, like going shopping without unescorted and without fear of attack. And soon she may have even more reason to rejoice. Another lost brother, Bela, has surfaced in Dadaab recently, while her mother has been contacted by telephone living near Mogadishu with her four youngest children. "UNHCR is helping the Hungarian and Kenyan authorities to find out about the intentions and possibilities of the Németh family members in Kenya and Somalia," revealed Lloyd Dakin, UNHCR's Budapest-based regional representative. "If everything goes well, Budapest might greet six new Hungarian citizens soon." Samira, meanwhile, is basking in the love and attention of new relatives. "When I left Somalia, I did not even have hope that I would stay alive or see any of my family members again. And now, here I am in Hungary, together with my brother, my aunt, uncle and cousins. I feel like I have got my lost life back." She will never be able to bring back her father and her three slain siblings, but a least she now has a life to look forward to. Source: UNHCR, July 10, 2008

^I think you might be talking about the Islamic center in Sharon and Quincy web page P.S. Couple of friends in Mutual Funds went to the Harvard lectures. It was really interesting. Baashi...Do you do marketing? Just wondering.

^I don't know what the exact figures, but you would run into one almost every corner. There are however close six thousand Somalis in and around Boston. Those numbers are growing and it's more common to see now Somali women donning Jalbaab around Boston. There are couple of Islamic that are in competition with each other but they offer services to the communities(They are divided along ethnic line South Asian vs North African Arabs with Somali siding with the Arabs). I can't honestly tell they offer though. These are either extreme or accommadating in their views and their interpretions of the religion. You either burn in hell fire as some preachers love to only rant about or Islam is no diffirent from any other Abrahamic religion. Regardless, there's healthy community that's thriving and enough resources shall one take the endevour of discovering Islam. There are also Islamic School that offers K-12 classes and is certified by the state. And we are finally about to finish the biggest Islamic center in New England after yrs of resistance from the Jewish organizations and lack of funds resulting from cutback on Saudi money that's flowing into Islamic centers around the country. The community couldn't just master enough money to finish the project. I'm hoping it will be fully operational this year.