^I doubt anyone odagaan wax udhiibanaayo once more. Anyway, it seems ragaan iney walwal kugu haayaan.So, I think you would be better informed about their whereabouts. P.S. Don't give up trying to pinpoint my subclan.

Originally posted by General Duke: How is Mohamed Abdi yusuf in Asamara? You tell me? P.S. This cleanup business never finishes. Yeey has yr to go and he's OUT Dukey. We need to find you new hero.

^Slow news day from Southern front?

^Don't confuse Duke and Naxar. They are looking for me all over the northeast, hawd and beyond. P.S. My father was born in Beledweyne though.

^Dominicans are no longer in. It's Brazilain Mulattos now, very saksi too.

^I guess you wanna piss Red even more.

Does anyone have account with Amana Mutual or the Iman fund. Just wondering if anyone has personal experience with them, perhaps opened any IRA with them. web page web page

^It's amazing what few determined and well intentioned men can achieve. It's testament to what's possible if the people and Somali "leadership" understand our salvation lies in putting the common interest of the people and the country ahead of personal ambition and tribal hegemony.

^Donate if you can.

The University is encouraging those who didn’t pay the pledges made to fulfill their commitment and pay out their dues to Hiiraan University accounts at Amaana Express (Xawaaladda Ammaana) anywhere in the world. There will be no service charge. The support from the public is critical. web page

Hiiraan University Foundation Sunday, July 13, 2008 Hiiraan University has a kickoff in building its first campus in Beledweyne, Somalia, after it marked its third year from its initiation. Not long ago, it was a mere thought of Somali scholars in North America and Europe. Today, it has become a reality. Shortage of funding and unstable circumstances in Somalia could be to blame for the delay and modification of the project. Only one third of the pledged money has been received and the construction was put on hold for over two years. Now that an important step has been taken, the dream of establishing this university is in insight. In April, 2008 the construction of Hiiraan’s First Post Secondary Institution started in the midst of political and security challenges in Hiiraan. The campus will feature eight teaching and learning classrooms, an administrative center, a multi-purpose hall, a staff room, library services, and other accessories. There are also future plans to accommodate labs, multimedia production facility, sports facilities, and a computerized system which will enable staff and students to have access to online resources. The faculty of agriculture is scheduled to admit 50 – 100 undergraduate Somali Nationals in January, 2009. Located in the Upper Shabeelle agricultural land and situated in the hub of livestock trade routes between south, west, and north, the Faculty of Agriculture has the objective to emphasize the development of agriculture, food, and natural resources. It will offer traditional agricultural education, while it will expand academic and research focus into such areas as the production of specialty crops, nutrition and health, and the protection and enhancement of the environment. The college will also extend to include a multitude of cross-disciplinary approaches to food management, processing, and promotion. All facets of the curriculum are sensitive to enhancing the critical balance among economic viability, community development, and environmental wellbeing. Depending on the availability of funds, the university will undertake expansion to build a residence compound for both students and staff. The goal of the university meshes well with its obligation to the Somali people as a whole by serving as a touchstone for creating highly trained agronomists. The availability of agricultural experts is fundamental to promoting sustainable food production systems, protecting human health, developing academic research, and among all the development of think-tank. The public remains our most important supporter. In order to continue to move forward with the completion and expansion of Hiiraan University and also to transform the lives of Somalis for the better, a generous support is needed. Hiiraan University would like to take this opportunity to express its heartfelt thanks to those who actively participated in all its fundraising events and to express its sincere appreciation for their efforts in supporting this important mission.

^ I second that

The representatives of the Somali Youth League, Ali Bin-Nour and Abdullah Issa (left) are seen with the representatives of the Coptic Christians in Eritrea, Dejash Bena Brakini, Sheikh Sulaiman El Deen Ahmad, and Beiru Tedla. Location: United Nations (Lake Success), New York Date: 20 April 1949. web page

Somali Stand on Trusteeship Representative Declares Opposition of Youth League to Italian Control The New York Times November 19, 1949 A letter sent to the New York Times by Abdullahi Isse To the Editor of the New York Times: An editorial dealing with the question of the former Italian colonies appeared in your paper of November 12, 1949. In this editorial you stated that the Russians, after being defeated in the United Nations, “have had their little triumph in winning over the Somali Youth to communism. Although you intentionally omitted the word “League” it is obvious that you are referring to the “Somali Youth League”, which I have the honor to represent here. The representatives of the Somali Youth League, Ali Bin-Nour and Abdullah Issa (left) are seen with the representatives of the Coptic Christians in Eritrea, Dejash Bena Brakini, Sheikh Sulaiman El Deen Ahmad, and Beiru Tedla. Location: United Nations (Lake Success), New York Date: 20 April 1949. First of all, may I ask on what grounds you base the assertion that the Russians have won over the Somali Youth League to communism? Is this only because the U.S.S.R. together with the other Communist States (including the federal Peoples’ Republic of Yugoslavia) and others, have strongly supported our just and legitimate cause both during the last and the current sessions of the General Assembly of the United Nations? If so, may I remind you that they equally supported the legitimate cause of the people of Libya, and, at least, part of those of Eritrea. Libyan Demonstration May I be permitted also to point out that in May of this year (during the course of the last session of the Assembly) the Libyans organized open demonstrations in Tripoli and other centers, displaying the flags of Communist states and the portrait of Stalin. In these demonstrations they destroyed the British and the United States flags, stoned British and American citizens and violently attacked the Italian community in Tripolitania. Yet you do not consider the Libyans Communists because of their open expression of appreciation for the role the Communist states played in defeating the plans of the Imperialist Powers. While the Somalis have also demonstrated against the return of the Italians as administrators of Somaliland, they have not done so under the banners of any Communist state, nor have they attacked foreigners. These demonstrations were peaceful until broken up by British police. Indeed, the Somalis have done nothing to justify your accusation that they have been won over communism. You did not in your editorial – nor can you now – submit any evidence to sustain your charge. Stand of League It is a known fact that the Somali Youth League, as leader of the nationalist movement for the independence of Somaliland, unalterably opposes the restoration of the hated Italian rule under any form whatsoever in our land. Also the League strongly opposes any foreign domination of Somaliland. In pursuing the struggle for the liberation of the country, the League has submitted to the General Assembly and various committees of the United Nations several memoranda, petitions, documents, etc., containing certain relevant data. Today the confusion of nationalism with communism in colonial areas is common error. Fortunately, the world knows the methods practiced by colonial Powers to suppress nationalist movements and at the same time label them as subversive and pursuant of Communist ideology. All classes of the inhabitants of Somaliland are united in a common front and they are now concerned only with the immediate problem facing them: the national struggle for the freedom of their country from foreign subjugation. While maintaining our militant and purely nationalistic character, we refuse to be trapped in the conflict between the red communism of the East and the white supremacy “democracy” of the West. We retain deep sympathy and respect for all those nations – Communists and non-Communists alike – who strongly supported the just and legitimate aspirations of our people. The unjust solution proposed fro Somaliland is entirely contrary to the wishes and welfare of the inhabitants. That the majority of the Political Committee reached this unfortunate conclusion after considerable bargaining and political expediency at the sole expense of the weak and defenseless Somali nation is a fact well known to the whole world. It is as clear as the light of day that, in order to do something for the Italians, it is proposed to sacrifice the Somalis and offer Somaliland to Italy as a bribe. A. Issa. Somali in U. N. Plea for Italy as Trustee The New York Times October 07, 1949 Lake Success, Oct. 6 – United Nations delegates today heard a representative of a native Somaliland organization declare his country was not ready for independence and would have to refuse it if the world organization decided to confer it. Islow Mahadalla Mohammed [1], representing the Somali Conference [2], called for an Italian trusteeship over Somaliland until the country was ready for independence. At the very least, he said, Italy should be included among the administering powers if the United Nations voted for multiple trusteeship. The Somali representative spoke before the General Assembly’s Political and Security Committee. He was bombarded by questions from many delegations who made it plain that they thought the Somali Conference did not represent any large segment of the population. The Latin-American delegations decided at the caucus this morning to link the question of independence for Libya with Italian administration of Italian Somaliland. Under the proposal, which was submitted by Cryo de Freitasvalle, head of the Brazilian delegation, the Latin-American countries would not agree to independence for Libya unless the assembly also agreed to the Latin-American proposal regarding Italian Somaliland.

Abdifatah S. Ismail July 16 , 2008 Introduction Nowadays, many Somali youths want to connect their struggle of having a stable, functioning government to the history of the Somali Youth League (SYL), which had been formed on the 15th of May, 1943. The league emphasized Somali youth solidarity and community awareness. It represented a symbol of hope and thus disseminated relentlessly literatures of liberation that stimulated the political thinking of the Somali youth. In short, the league succeeded to become a source of agitation and resistance for the Somali youth. In the 1940s, SYL leaders addressed their grievances and plans to the Media. And sometimes, such open letters resulted in a heated debate in places like UK’s House of Commons. Seeking to inform the present generation, Roobdoon Forum goes a considerable way towards filling this gap of generations and thus supplying some of the League’s correspondences. Open Letter to Mr. Attlee By Abdulqadir Sakhaawadiin [A letter requested to be published in New Times and Ethiopia News] Your Excellency, I have taken the liberty to draw your attention to the afflictions with which the Somali people are burdened under your Government, which is represented by the British Military Administration. We have heard and believed that Great Britain had sacrificed the blood and lives of her sons and daughters, and devoted all her resources of wealth and manpower, in the fight against the Axis Powers in order to make the world safe for Freedom and Democracy. The Somalis were not the enemy of the Allies. It was their misfortune that your enemy – the Italians – forcibly occupied and subjected our country fifty years ago. We are, therefore, among the enslaved and oppressed to whom Freedom and Democracy was promised. To the people of Somaliland, the five years since the day of our ‘liberation’ have been conspicuous in their lack of humane considerations and the brutal suppressions of democratic rights. Today the British Military Administration is almost as feared and disliked as the tyrannical Fascist Rule. Racial discrimination exists in Somaliland, notably at Mogadishu. Collective Punishment Laws have been enacted and are enforced. They are the means of spreading terror and want among the people. For instance, some Askaris recently deserted. The livestock of their innocent tribesmen was seized. The criminals had not taken refuge with the tribesmen. The incident had taken place very many miles away from the tribal area. No livestock of the deserter was in the hands of the tribesmen. The milk of the livestock is the staple food of the people. Seizure of the livestock is all the more detestable in that it deprives the women and children of their means of sustenance, through no fault of their own. Collective punishment is also the root cause of the majority of killings in Somaliland, for when the ignorant tribesmen get excited at such a tyrannical act and protest against it by stone-throwing or the futile brandishing of sticks, they are shot down for rioting. Conscription for slave-labour exists. The poor wretches thus collected are parceled out by the British Military Administration among the agricultural concessions at Genale [Janaale], along the Juba River and the area held by the S.A.I.S (Sociieta Agricola Italo-Somalo). The slave-labourers are compelled to work in these areas under conditions which are a living mockery of Democracy and the ideals of human rights. The workers are brutally flogged in public for routine offences. Some officers of the administration flagrantly violate one of the foremost of human rights – the sanctity of the person. Elders and respected Somalis are bullied and struck in offices by them or on their orders at any show of spirit. The laws and policy under which our country is administered were forged mainly by the Italians and Fascist statesmen for their own vile ends. The application of this tyrannical law by a Democratic Power is not only a great wrong but is causing the gravest miscarriage of justice. We recall to you the ideals and principles fro which the heroes of England and the Allied countries gave their lives, and beg of you to send a disinterested and competent Commission or Mission to examine our complaints and make recommendations for the speedy relief of the causes of misrule. I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant. ABDUL KADER SAKHAWADEEN (a Somali)

^I second that

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Originally posted by LANDER: Rich, coming from someone who's illogical denial of all things Somaliland stems from tribal insecurity. Speaking of tribal insecurity, here list of secession proponents on SOl Starting with you, Lander, then Gediid, Oodweyne, Ayoub, Suldaanka, Ace, Qudhac,etc and yeah the newest member NGONGE I'm sure all are motivated by their ideals and not so much by their affinity. Now if we could get Castro, Xidigo, Louis, Sophist, Mansa Munsa, and Soomaal to accept these ideals :cool:

In other news, A woman said to be 70 years of age has given birth to twins in India's northern Uttar Pradesh state after taking IVF treatment. web page

LoooooooL@Zu...You are confusing with someone else and lay off the valuim Aw Zu And mediatate Chinaman.

^Why do I getting the feeling you deal pills to teenagers. Lily...It does if you weigh 500 pounds. If not , you need something little more rigorious.

Lily & Ibti-Tylenol PM, Stay away from Valium. But exercising after work is the most effective way of falling sleep. DD...Depends if timiha are jareer or jileec.

^Against another Somali Dee.