Abdiwali has been talking musiibo qaran, what have these men been doing?

This is the same Warancade that goes to Ethiopia every other week? I like this better hehe@Dual citizenship

Waa beel laandheer ah dee. There are the 5.5.

So there you have it, beesha lixaad forced them!

Waa Nidaam Fad ama ha fadin ah

lol@Tillamook I am beginning to think Xabad is Jadiid.

Who's they?

Somaliland “nothing Somalia says is of any concern to us”. I thought Somalia doesn't exist? Make up your mind.

http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2016/Jan/103853/au_expresses_concern_over_impending_amisom_pay_cut.aspx

^It does considering it never leaves your mouth!

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> runta waa la isku nacaa, . I am more interested in facts. Can you factually prove an entire people are as you put "qabiilistayasha ugu xun"? And I suppose people , (Xasan Sheikh included) that are supporting 4.5 are doing it out of sincere conviction?

For as the .5 issue, forget what faradheer is saying, have a conversation with Benadari, Barawani, or Bantu person.

A case of everyone else is qabiilist hehe. Whatever argument you were trying to put forward was lost in your general condemnation and over-generalization of en entire people.

Something is lost in this 4.5 vs degmo thing. That something is accountability. Somalis won't make any progress as long as they don't hold their politicians, traditional leaders and wadaado accountable. Instead of building on institutions, we now have 7 men with IC backers deciding the future of 15 million people. This Government was supposed to lay the foundations for a better, more inclusive government. Instead, it deliberately ham-stringed Somalia just so few politicians can milk the country. The election commission, border commission and constitutional were all supposed to be setup in the first two years. Instead of asking about these real issues, we are busy with 4.5. Any agreement between Somalis is not worth the paper it's written. As long as we side with men instead demanding a proper functional state, we will continue to have this conversation. The displaced mother in Xamar, Bosaso, and Hargeisa camps don't care who is in power as long as they have institutions that ensure their safety and livelihood. So are the half million Somalis in Dadab, the quarter of million in war torn Yemen and Amoud graduates dying on the high seas. We talk about this block and that. Does anyone really think Xasan Sheikh cares about H-Block, does anyone think Sharif Xasan cares about R-Block, and does anyone think y Madobe and Gas really care about D-block? Let's be serious people. Even if these men care about their people what can they do without institutions. Whatever Government comes next, Somalis need to make sure the Government respects and implements what was agreed upon. And reer hebel folks, now that you have "federal state", make your demand the democratization of these states. Otherwise, they will all be mini Sheikh Hassan. Just look at what's brewing in Jubba, Galmudug and the Hiiran/Shabelle. And Puntland will fall within this category if Abdiwali does start democratization of decision making and power sharing. Somalis need accountability and genuine reconciliation. I simply don't see these men delivering that. And as for the parliament, who are they accountable to? A

Alpha has spoken. And here's Tarsan Waxaa mar dhow i soo gaartey in Madaxweynaha Soomaaliyeed Mudane Hassan Sheikh uu u dhoofi doono dalka Kenya si uu uga qeybgalo aaska qaran ee ay Kenya u sameyneyso ciidamadii looga laayey Gobolka Gedo ee dalka Soomaaliya. Waxaan leeyahay Madaxweyne fadlan jooji safarkaaga hadaadan weli bixin sababaha soo socda awgeed: 1- Kuma jirto Baratakoolka caalamka meel madaxweyne dal uu uga qeybgalo Aas loo sameynahayo ciidamo dal kale ka dhintey. 2- Madaxweyne waxaad tahay madaxweyne Soomaaliyeed kuma socotid magaca Hassan Sheikh oo caadi ah. 3- Hore shabaab waxey u xasuuqeen shacab Soomaaliyeed iyo ciidamo Soomaaliyeed hal agaasime ee dowlad kale ka socda oo ka soo qeybgaley ma aanan arkin, balse adiga oo ah Madaxweynihii Soomaaliyeed kama soo qeybgelin iska daa kuwo ka yimid dal kale, kii ugu dambeeyayna wuxuu ahaa Abaan duulihii hore ee ciidamada xooga dalka Soomaaliyeed Gen. Dhega Badan. 4- Kenya waxey xasuuqdey shacabka Soomaaliyeed ee ku nool Gobolka Gedo ayada oon u aaba yeelin mid shacab ah, haween, caruur, dad da ah iyo xoolihii. Ilaa iyo hadda dowlado kama muujin wax dareen ah. Kenya waxey dadkaas u xasuuqdey aargudasho iyo in ay Soomaali yihiin. 5- Kenya waxey ku dhawaaqdey in qabiil ka mid qabaa'ilka dega Gedo in ay masuul ka tahay dhibka loo geystey ciidankeeda, taas oo ay damacsantahay in ay xasuuqdo qabiilkaas taas oo hadii ay dhacdo noqondoonta waxa loo yaqaan (Genocide) waa isir baabin. 6- Dowlado kale oo ay ciidamo ka jogaan Soomaaliya ayaa la laayey kamana qeybgelin kuwaas waxaa ka mid ah Ciidamadii Ugaanda iyo Buruundi. Madaxweyne kuwa kugula taliyey in aad ka qeybgasho Aaskaas ama waa kuwo ku shirqoolahayey ama waa kuwo aan nidaam dowladnimo aan wax ka garaneynin Mohamud Ahmed Nur Tarsan

One warlord was replaced by another warlord favored by a foreign government. I am sure Madobe was welcomed with open arms by all residents of Jubbaland. If you sincerely believe Kenya is not Somalia's enemy, me trying to convince otherwise is pointless.

I don't care for Ugandans and Burundians either. lol@Jubbaland, no side won, but the Somali public lost. Anyone Somali who believes the front-line states or AMISOM are helping SOmalia is deluding himself. KDF is fattening itself of illegal charcoal and sugar trade as Kenya lays claim on Somali territorial waters, not mention the crimes they committed against Somali civilians, in particular, nomads. They have been carpet-bombing Gedo indiscriminately, but I guess Somali lives are acceptable casualties. Any serious person would now come to understand after almost a decade in Somalia, AMISOM has no interest in helping Somalia and to expect any help from your arch enemy is ridiculous. Only Somalis CAN DEFEAT Al-Shabab. Those (including reer land this or that)serious about Somalia's revival must support the formation of a professional Somali army, otherwise waxaan iska sheeko.

The same way Ethiopians are part of AMISOM? And were they part of AMISOM when they invaded Somalia?

Mandate? Hehe, sheekadaada waa isyeelyeel.

I don't care about the vermins but to say the KDF came to get rid off them?

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> Why ? That you would prefer any adoonsi is amazing,it is defeatism, resigning yourself to oblivion. And the choice between AS and Kenya is false choice.

<cite> @somalee said:</cite> Those soldiers died trying to help the president rid his country of those vermin. P Can you be serious?

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> ^ I prefer kenyaan adoonsi to AS/daacish adoonsi. how about your gooni ? That's the saddest thing that I heard you say.

Aight, who advises Siiraanyo on these matters? And isn't Erigavo losing population? Why expel people that are obviously keeping it alive and contributing to its vitality?