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Man can't be compared to animals since we are creatures of thought. It is our brain that differs us from every other living thing. As for human DNA having similaraties with primates, I think this following piece might help clarify some staff. It is by Harun Yahya. The piece is about human genome project. THE APE-MAN SIMILARITY IS A TALE! The completion of human's gene map today does not yield the result that man and ape are relatives. One need not be deceived by evolutionists' attempts to exploit this new scientific development just as they do with all others. As known, the recent completion of the human gene map within the scope of the Human Genome Project has been a very important scientific improvement. However, some results of this project are being distorted in some evolutionist publications. It is claimed that the genes of chimpanzees have a similarity to human genes by 98 % and this is promoted as an evidence to the claim that apes are close to humans, and therefore, to the theory of evolution. In truth, this is a "fake" evidence put forward by evolutionists who benefit from the lack of knowledge of society about this subject. 98 % Similarity Claim is a Misleading Propaganda First, it should be stated that the 98% similarity concept, frequently advanced by evolutionists about the DNAs of man and chimpanzee, is deceptive. In order to claim that the genetic make-ups of man and chimpanzee bear 98 % similarity, the genome of the chimpanzee also has to be mapped just as that of man's, the two has to be compared, and the result of this comparison has to be obtained. However no such result is available, because so far, only the gene of mankind has been mapped. No such research is yet done for the chimpanzee. In reality, the 98 % similarity between the genes of man and ape, which now and then becomes an agenda item, is a propaganda oriented slogan deliberately invented years ago. This similarity is an extraordinarily exaggerated generalisation grounded on the similarity in the amino acid sequences of some 30-40 basic proteins present in man and chimpanzee. A sequence analysis has been made with a method named "DNA hybridization" on the DNA sequences that are correlated with these proteins and only those limited number of proteins have been compared. However there are about hundred thousand genes, and therefore 100 thousand proteins coded by these genes in humans. For that reason, there is no scientific basis for claiming that all the genes of man and ape are 98 % similar only because of the similarity in 40 out of 100.000 proteins. On the other hand, the DNA comparison carried out on those 40 proteins is also controversial. This comparison was made in 1987 by two biologists named Sibley and Ahlquist and published in the periodical named Journal of Molecular Evolution. (v.26 pp. 99-1212) However another scientist named Sarich who examined the data obtained by these two scientists concluded that the reliability of the method they used is controversial and that the data has been exaggeratedly interpreted. (Sarich et al, 1989, Cladisticts 5:3-32) Dr. Don Batten, another biologist, also analysed the issue in 1996 and concluded that the real similarity rate is 96.2%, not 98 %. (CEN, 19(1); 21-22 December 1996-February 1997) Human DNA is also similar to that of the worm, mosquito and chicken! Moreover, the above mentioned basic proteins are common vital molecules present in various other living beings. The structure of the same kinds of proteins present not only in chimpanzee, but also in completely different living beings, is very similar to that in the humans. For example, the genetic analyses published in New Scientist have revealed a 75 % similarity between the DNAs of nematode worms and man. (New Scientist, 15 May 1999, p.27) This definitely does not mean that there is only a 25% difference between man and these worms! According to the family tree made by evolutionists, the Chordata phylum, in which man is included, and Nematoda phylum were different from each other even 530 million years ago. On the other hand, in another finding which also appeared in the Turkish media, it was stated that the comparisons carried out between the genes of fruit fly belonging to the Drosophila species and human genes yielded a similarity of 60%. (Hürriyet, 24 February 2000) On the other hand, the analyses done on some proteins show man as close to some very different living beings. In a survey carried out by the researchers in Cambridge University, some proteins of land dwelling animals were compared. Amazingly, in nearly all samples, man and chicken were paired as the closest relatives. The next closest relative was crocodile. (New Scientist v.103, 16 August 1984, p.19) Another example used by evolutionists on "the genetic similarity between man and ape", is the presence of 48 chromosomes in chimpanzees and gorillas versus 46 chromosomes in man. Evolutionists regard the closeness of the number of chromosomes as indication of an evolutionary relationship. However, if this logic used by evolutionists were true, then man should have an even closer relative than chimpanzee: "the potato"!. Because the number of chromosomes in potatoes is the same as that of man: 46 These examples certify that the concept of genetic similarity does not constitute evidence for the theory of evolution. This is because the genetic similarities are not in line with the alleged evolution schemes, and on the contrary, they yield completely opposite results. Genetic Similarities Upset the "Evolution Scheme" that is Sought to be Constituted Unsurprisingly, when the issue is evaluated as a whole, it is seen that the subject of "bio-chemical similarities" does not constitute an evidence for evolution, but on the contrary leaves the theory in the lurch. Dr. Christian Schwabe, a biochemistry researcher from the Medical Faculty of South Carolina University, is an evolutionist scientist who has spent years to find evidence for evolution in the molecular domain. He particularly did researches on insulin and relaxin-type proteins and tried to establish evolutionary relationships between living beings. However, he had to confess for many times that he could not find any evidence for evolution at any point in his studies. In an article published in Science magazine, he said; "Molecular evolution is about to be accepted as a method superior to palaeontology for the discovery of evolutionary relationships. As a molecular evolutionist I should be elated. Instead it seems disconcerting that many exceptions exist to the orderly progression of species as determined by molecular homologies; so many in fact that I think the exception, the quirks, may carry the more important message" (Christian Schwabe, "On the Validity of Molecular Evolution", Trends in Biochemical Sciences. V.11, July 1986) Based on the recent findings obtained in the field of molecular biology, the renowned biochemist Prof. Michael Denton made the following comments; "Each class at molecular level is unique, isolated and unlinked by intermediates. Thus, molecules, like fossils, have failed to provide the elusive intermediates so long sought by evolutionary biology… At a molecular level, no organism is "ancestral" or "primitive" or "advanced" compared with its relatives… There is little doubt that if this molecular evidence had been available a century ago… the idea of organic evolution might never have been accepted." (Michael Denton, Evolution; A Theory in Crisis, London; Burnett Books 1985 pp.290-291) Similarities are not Evidence for Evolution but for Creation It is surely natural for the human body to bear some molecular similarities to other living beings, because they all are made up of the same molecules, they all use the same water and atmosphere, and they all consume foods consisting of the same molecules. Certainly, their metabolisms and therefore genetic make-ups would resemble to one another. This, however, is not evidence that they evolved from a common ancestor. This "common material" is not the result of an evolution but of "common design", that is, their being created upon the same plan. It is possible to explain this subject with an example; all constructions in the world are done with similar materials (brick, iron, cement, etc.). This, however, does not mean that these buildings "evolved" from each other. They are constructed separately by using common materials. The same is true for living beings as well. Life did not originate as a result of unconscious coincidences as evolution claims, but as the result of the creation of God, the Almighty, the owner of infinite knowledge and wisdom. Source: www.harunyahya.com
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People....Men and women are simply different from each other( that doesn't mean one is superior to other). Even their brains work diffirently.....It is has been proven women are better communicators, better than men at language skills, can do multiple tasks at a time, and can sense when people are sad or in distress, on other hand males are at good hand on work , are better at maths, more physically stronger, and can only do one thing at time.lol. There is no superior or inferior sex , men and women are here in da world to compliment each other. Women have been historically discriminated and they still are. Equality is your God given right whether yu are male or female, but one shouldn't argue for equality using the concept that boys and girls are same. I personally think there are more smart women than men..lol. ... thats just my opinion. Hibo.....Iam just wondering, can yu find a woman dat would take on Lennox Lewis or Tyson...lol later nomads
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Waryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! i can add one more....Walaahi Somebody asked me why somalis use da walahi after every sentence.... :confused:
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Thanks Soul-Searcher. Man, The Rwanda massacre was unbelievable!
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Scorpion_Sista....Iam glad to see people coming the same conclusion as i did.....Many muslims discourage from asking questions(iam not referring to anyone here, iam talking in general!).....Wat they fail to understand as muslim , iam not questioning the word of Allah, but i simply wondering the logic behind it. It is sad to see many young muslims in da west looking all puzzled when a nom-muslim asks a question about Islam. Besides,One need to understand curiosity about your Islam will strength your conviction.N one will be at peace with themselves knowing where their religion is coming from.....It is liberating!
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Ladies....Scorpion N Che were having just a conversation! Apology Accepted Iam out.......later
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in streets MNLPS, London , Toronto , Columbus and Melbourne can look up to as role model.....I guess he is one of many celebs to come out of this war.....They are actually Rageh Omaar T-shirst over da net.....And there is also a website dedicated to Iraqi Info Minister, Mohammed Al-Sahhaf selling T-shirts......Lol crazy world..........lol
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Hats off for Organmen....Syracuse just won the NCAA championship!!
Che -Guevara replied to Che -Guevara's topic in General
heehheee...don't be just soar losers.....we will enjoy while lasts .......N i hope da Kings make it dis year in da pro league finals.....It will be cool to see them take da title. N for all football fanatics.....Real All da way....................Zizo will shine again..lol -
Scorpion_Sista.....My bad....I ain't hiding specially not from da scorpion..lol Well....I actually live on dorms in my university......I get my bro as room-mate who goes to da same school......Iam in upstate new york, the living cost is not expensive , but job market sucks..Most of the companies left the state , went down south in da carolinas and elsewhere.....iam here like four years now. Where are u at?....and hows life there?
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Scorpion_Sista......Yu were actually good....n Haa yaar hum to dosti karoge.....Sifar aek sharad kalyee, tum humbee dosti karo . N ok , I do admit , i watch indian movies........Actually the indians in my collage get new movies once in a while.......the movies are fairly accessible. As for the story...Iam not good at putting anything into a print....lol later dost
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Maliaka.....I almost forget....Welcome to da club.......I like scorpion said, welcome to dark side....It is liberating.......lol
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Scorpion_Sista.....OO yaar tu ajii hindi jaantiihay......Hum Khush tu humaraa Dosti hay....Humbii teraa dost huu yaar ....Yaar i have never said i don't watch indian movies....I just don't watch them often and iam also more of hong kong movie fan....I like all dat Kungi Fu......I have seen lagaan....Amir Khan wasn't bad.....Bend it like Beckham , i heard ppl saying it is good...it was actually a big hit in Britian.I have a lot of indian students in my school....so , they watch indian movies. I joined when i can. Malaika.....Come on Yaar....Yu promised me yu were not gonna tell the " cry incident" to anyone.....Iam disappointed.....n Another thing, i don't remember any family being there ....There were just two ppl.....The scenerio was more like , " It was quite summer afternoon, thick dark clouds were gathering over da skies as the monsoon season has just begin, Halimo and farah were on the balcony enjoying the cool breeze,...Just teasing Walaal( i get da feeling Scorpion might get in da mood to write another little story)............lol .....but seriously though , i don't deny that i have seen any indian movies. I just watch them every now and then.
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tagane....ok, maybe not everyone here is a reer guuraa, but iam pretty certain majority of us here are descendents of Somali Pastoralists aka nomads. Gedid.....True , people of the past stood for something , the so called reer magaal that replaced them stands for nothing.
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Well fav movies.....Ok 1.crouching tiger, hidden dragon 2. Anything Jackie Chan 3. Shawshank Redemption 4. Rambo serious...I used to love those when i was a kid, i still do. 5. Anything Gene Hackman...the old man can act! 6. Romance, love...Naaah..they bore me. and Horror doesn't look horrifying anymore. It is full alien crap and ghosts. very predictable.
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Tagane.....Dude No one here is nomad per se.....This is merely a tribute to our past , culture and ancestors. We can safely say, everyone in here is the descendent of reer guuraa. Can't i see how could one be insulted by honoring his/her past.
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Hats off for Organmen....Syracuse just won the NCAA championship!!
Che -Guevara replied to Che -Guevara's topic in General
Jeenyo....Iam not B-ball fan, i just like watching the final four of NCAA and Pro-League....iam football fan , I actually tuned to champions league now watching Real Madrid do its magic...lol -
WHO'S GONNA WIN THE CHAMPS LEAGUE THIS SEASON?
Che -Guevara replied to abdulraheem's topic in General
All Man United Suppoters....I must say your team has been out-classed....ZiZo, Figo and Raul made Man U look like amuaters...lol The only hope Man U is the away goal by Ruud van Nistelrooy........N speaking Ruud van Nistelrooy , it seems , he is the only world class player in Man U....Others like Beckham are a joke....I think , Real must have been playing his mind and Man United when they say they were interested in him......Beckham's game level simply put is inferior to the likes of raul, Zizi, figo , ronaldo , and all real camp. Go Real.......Here come another championship Title. N i hope the gunners will take premiership....lol later nomads -
Scorpion_Sista.....Well, how i could miss the massages saying we were flirting...I guess i wasn't paying much attention to wat others were writing in this topic .Yeah Scorpion , this is not love , it is more the lack of it...lol....Flirting is indeed healthy sometimes . N yu know wat , i think the scorpion that might made me to rethink about "the scare thing"....Besides , i can't remian scared forever. N About the movie, i think we probably saw the same copy, Ajay was in it and did a good job , i think!....Iam guessing yu must have picked some hindi from watching indian movies...it would be cool if yu write me back couple of lines in Hindi! later dost
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Tel me nomads did i get played by guy Y...u be the jugde
Che -Guevara replied to finestsista2005's topic in General
This is nice soap opera......lol just kidding I don't mean to be harsh , i really can't sympathize with yu considering how yu treated mr X aka nice guy. Yu just created another bad boy. Yu know wat they say bad boys used to be nice, thats till some chick pissed them off...lol Mr Y just dissed yu da same way yu dissed mr X.....Wat goes around comes around..lol -
Hats off for Organmen....Syracuse just won the NCAA championship!!
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Somalia-online prez.....Ok,I got yu bro. -
Scorpion_Sista......I didn't know that there were two different copies.....The copy that i saw was basically about the historical facts from his begining as child when he was first the british massacring demonastrators, to him joining the youth movement,killing a british officer, throwing bombs into the indian parliament, getting jailed and starting hunger strike , to finally being hanged with couple of his buddies.....Are the copies any different from each other?. i have meaning to ask if yu are indian movie fan , but i guess yu are one.Did went little with your avator too. It looks bengali tiger or is it Siberian Tiger. Yu know wat , could yu pick something less intimidating ...lol just kidding....I guess there goes da danger and beauty thing again...lol later Dost P.S... since I and paki Buddies get dispersed around the world, i guess dis place has become our little hangout...lol
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Scorpion_Sista....True, Optimisim does get us through da day. It is positive driving force . I called nature's prozac.....maybe dats bad anology.lol I know the history of Bhagat Singh.....India's che-guevara.....The guy was one time even more popular than the Mahatma himself. Iam not really much Indian movies fan( Farahs don't wanna admit to watching Hindi Movies...lol), but seriously , i did see dat particular movie. Iam big fan of the Bhagat Singhs and the Che-Guevaras of the world and anything relates to them It is kind sad though Bhagat Singh never got the kind of recognition , he righfully deserves. I spent most of my adolescent years in Pakistan. It is nice place except the summers are so hot there. I think Maliaka knows wat talking about? hehehehe......Maliaka...Haye walaalshiis.....Kaysaa hee.......Iam just wondering if how many of us (former paki residents) are in dis place....Iam sure , they are lurking few around in these forums...I guess yu and i are most visible ones....lol later
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Scorpion_Sista....Glad my answer made some sense, i was begining to think , iam boring the Scorpion to death :rolleyes: .......I guess it doesn't hurt sometimes to be curious or am I being too optomistic?...lol N Yeah....Che was very interesting man, a legend and rebel...One of those ppl who die young but leaves behind a lasting impression. Later Dost
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Hats off for Organmen....Syracuse just won the NCAA championship!!
Che -Guevara replied to Che -Guevara's topic in General
Wait minute one.....were yu testing if iam actually from upstate new york.....thats cheap shot bro.....lol.....i live in da place and have relatives all over da place......Oneonta, Binghamton....Norwich.....I get tired traveling in those country roads. Iam wondering if yu know anyone from Binghamtion, Southern Tier? later
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