Originally posted by Entrepreneur: By the way CHE, saaxib, I get this feeling that you love western idealism of "high science". I am not a follower of the weird world of western philosophy [/QB] Wow......Some big assumption on your part walaal...You conclude all that from my above post. I guess you pass judgements on others way too quickly...lol Ok let me rephrase what i said then, " Stop the sweeping generalisations!!"....You have no any real facts to back them up. n I wasn't going for any universal truth here, just dissecting what you wrote, claiming that "Very often we (somalis) tend to neglect simple issues that are perhaps the root cause of somalia's problems". Now i think you would agree that one has to be good at "observing" things to find out the root cause of any problem. I give you a credit though for using the word "perhaps" in your opening sentence. A bit of uncertainty huh..

Lakkad..... Nigerian as the first lady....lol.....I don't despise them, but i do wanna the first lady of somalia to be of somali origin. Nurudin could be an inspiration to the youth in a peaceful somalia and perhaps could serve as somali ambassador. I wouldn't however ask him to lead the country.

Lucky....Age is always a good excuse....lol I was too young, too old...lol Muluc is some sort of small lizard, a reptile. I think those caashos are waiting for you and i in Aakhiro, than again we were just kids..lol

Originally posted by Lucky: "I beg people to go back to nature, look at the PET scans, look at the brain differences and see if it makes sense." If it does, the consequences are profound for a generation of "liberated" women brought up to believe it is men who have to change, and men who must respond to a female way of relating in order for marriage to succeed. [/QB] loooool.....Well, the "liberrated" women will find this hard to believe. Another good excuse for us though, it is not me ,it is just the way i was build.

Entrepreneur.... Before i could answer your question. I must say that personal observations don't count as concrete scientific theory. One must conduct a rigorious research to identify and confirm any social behavior in any unit. The so called truth is just your reflection on the somali people's outward behavior, and as such it is a mere perception, a bit removed from the reality. Besides, how do you ever reach the stage where you think that you have reached the truth. I think it is fair to say that no one ever kows the real truth. We could only predict the probabality of something being true, but we can't predict the truth.

Miz-Unique...I do remember a guy who use to be in suuq jungal, and was little nuts. Kids use to annoy him. Juxa.....I used to go there every now and than. It was not that from my home. I used to live near Ceel Maxmed Cali Baare, iyo Baar Kiish. Maajo...Glad to hear that you enjoy it.... anigaba anoo kalee qoslaaye arkey. Lakkad....God Qs, and how do they make the load stays in place? MMA.....Thanks for pics, and thanks again specially for the last one. I use to go Yaasin Cusmaan just across the Taalo.... Watched many afte-school fights there... how many waraa baanaka iskayn did heard.....lol later nomads

Originally posted by Gediid: One word saaxiib GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF THE NATIONAL EXCHEQUER , even that a diehard sessionist like Oodweyne will dare refute. Gross Mismanagement Indeed....Look around, Barre's boys are still around. Old habits die hard!

Geedid....Laughing hard indeed Yaar...lol Haaruun....I just turn to be the first one who red your post,and i couldn't help it, but take a shot. I think few others would have done da same. Flying-still....Iam just picking on the brother. No harm done!

I thought i share dis picture with da nomads. Anyone who use to live in or around Suuq Juungal will know where this truck is heading!!!! Remember the Big Bal ( Corn) pile-up Finding a Truck in a Corn Stack A Somali truck loaded with corn is parked on the side of a road in Mogadishu (Wednesday, September 24, 2003) Source: Time.com

So haruun, you were a cross-dresser....Interesting revelations.....lol

Damn, Maajo you beat to the president thing. Anyway our approuches to the precious Kursi are different. Anyway i think you will be the one , iam gonna overthrow.....lol load your guns now....mr rich

I will be in somali army, hopefully reaching the rank of a general or field marshal. I will overthrow the goverment, hopefully a bloodless coup, Gen Mushraf style, but i will run somalia like Kim Jong IL Style. No mercy! I can't stand free press, scholars, free enterprise or for that matter anything that can shift people's opinions or encourage them to rebel the goverment namely me...lol..So, who is in it with me people.....This evil plan might just work...You can have the worldy materails you desire, Yatches, beach houses, high rises, plantations, or your own range with geel, ari, or what have you, your own untraceable Swiss accounts. We blunder the country's natural resources. The offer stand for all, except Hibo. I hate Eri Carbeed. It has bad odor. You will be jailed smell pollution. Well everything must always come to end, i will either too old or be thrown. Either way, i will retire in Saudi Arabia like Idi did, and hope of prayers for forgiveness will be answered by God. later nomads

I and my friends use to sit on a darjiin in our neighborhood. Every time somebody passes by, we will start saying, baqol laba baqol, baqol laba baqol, and so forth. ( i assume most of yu know what means ).Well, that use got us in alot of trouble since our targets were mostly women, and all plus folks....lol....we were just kids, and i don't what made us say that....lol One time, Dugsi teacher sent us to fetch Baayo ( long flexible sticks used in dugsi to beat kids). I was too young, but i used to tag along simply cuz of Mircood. We would enter somebody's Goof looking mircood, and everytime someone would chase out of the Goof. The worst day was one of older kids struck by one of Goof people with a knife. N as kids,we use to hunt Muluc, and kill it. I don't know why? and Caasho qurunto was an insect,we use to play it, cutting of its wings, and watching it move on the sand. I think Muluc and caasho qurunto must hate somali boys by now. This is not crazy thing, but i felt sharing it anyway. I was only one who killed mulucs n caasho quruntos....lol This is turning to be confession session. Well, Thanks Father Jidaawy..lol... later nomads

As long as the ****** in mogadisho and the menace in Pland are alive, our land will not see day of peace. I think it is about time to eliminate these people physically since thats all understand. They shall meet the faith Aidid senior. It is about dhaqameed of the south come together,and save the people and the land. Besides, the continuos wars in the south make no sence anymore. Just warlords using qabiil as cover to farther their own selfish interests. N holding somali peace in neighboring countries is a joke. We should hold the talks under qudhac somewhere in benadir, juba, mudug, or bari.

Paltalk...when did you stop being Bush's little poodle, and starting lambasting Sland. Kudos to the northerners for their hard work. They deserve the praise. Best of luck. Hopefully you will get your recognition! N Peace in My Beloved Somalia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! later nomads

Runaway-Virgin..loooooooool.....it is good to be back.....thankx nice come back guys.........lol....Lakkad.my sentiments exactly..lol later nomads

Runaway-virgin......well, well, well, what a coincidence.....Hhmmmmm....it just turns out that iam shortest thorn around....the least harmful, i actually compliment a rose well..lol now lets skip da game, and pick a date. .lol Rudy...if your idea of a date is dinner, a movie, and few minutes of fluid exchange afterwards, than i rather not date just a girl....It has little with race for me. My health is most important thing. In over-sexed nation like America, STDs are common. The chance of just girl contracting STD is higher. But keep in mind, not all girls who date non-somalis have sexual relationships. Regardless, i think one should have their mate tested before marriage. You just can't trust people somalis n non-somalis alike, and same goes for all muslims and non-muslims alike. Raxmah....I don't think it is comparison thing that pisses off somali males. It is just that no male of any race likes to see his sister or daughter run off with someone outside the comfort zone ( community). If you see a chinese, white or whoever happily giving away his daughter/sister to a man outside his race, let me know. Of course, there are always exceptions. So, lets not use that as an example. later nomads. p.s. just thing, people could not have the words date and Islam in the same sentence. Iam not Islamic theologian, but i think the idea (and the act ) of man and woman going out is prohibited.

Hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, A virtual Pamphlet for online feminist freaks.....lol just kidding ladies. later

Geeze.....why get mad at Qac Qac.Many people men and women alike do choose mates simply on looks, skills, income, etc. Well, QacQac, i personally would go for the cook. I think Opinionated put my choice of a mate beautifully calling her "personal chef", and she comes with a lot benefits. ..lol Seriously though, for me the most thing would be the woman's character.

Kcabuji.....dhuqa i can't believe you gave up on your Gunners...Wazzup....lol.....I think they are da only fit to defeat Man-U Well, I think Chelsea might make to the top ten, but it won't take the cup....You know what lets make it a bet. Since you are betting the blues,my vote goes to the gunners. Shaqsi....You are very loyal indeed..wow....you know there was a study out suggesting fans might suffer anxiety and other things that cause heart promblems if thier teams lose....So lets not be too loyal.........lol Ameenah.....I luv gals that like and follow football,it is even sweeter when the gal is somali... ...lol.....sadly i hate red devils...anyway perhaps i could come to the old trafford and watch my Real Madrid beat you guys again......N hey we get Beckham...lol later nomads

Pland & Sland united.....lol....interesting. Just one question, would the later settle for being in the backseat of "just to be wrecked car" as the former would surely be driving the car since the former is more politically savvy and mature. I don't think Sland can trust Pland political elites considering the fact how pland elites destroyed the less mature USC politicians. Besides, it is no secret Pland wants to become the dominant somali province with the inclusion of SSH, and the establishment of lower jubba state with kismayo as its capital for all southern planders. Iam afraid , MMA is right qabiil first before nationalism, and it is for all somalis not just pland.

Maybe Marriage itself is an out-dated institution. You are just repeatint the same old boring cycle that generations before you did. Now iam not saying live in life of sin. Maybe you can become Sufi, or find something you care about that is worth of devoting to, like fighting AIDS, hunger, etc. I knew a man who was never married, he was sufi. Only God knew how he really felt inside but judging him on the exterior, and interacting with him, one could gather he was very contended man. I guess this is you only if you can suprress your sexual appetite. Besides, don't you think that there are too many people on dis planet already, six billion of us.......why bring and subject a poor child to the actions of this world.

Magnoon-gal.....I don't know you in person, but if you are who said you are, iam gonna take your word for it. It is interesting though everyone here seems flawless.....lol...n you should seriously consider forming a club for "the lost kids"....lol Silent-Sistah......Well, it seems your mind is made up. If you think, you are better off with Somalis, than go ahead and do dissociate! PPl, it is seems that there are alot of "disgruntled" somalis here, lets hope of one you don't show up in somali neighborhood, and start blazing their guns...lol Iam still wondering everyone here except Kaafi, and few others bashed their fellow somalis. Hows your character any different from the very somalis that are complianing about?

Silent-Sista... Ask somali person about what they think of other somalis and somali culture in general. Most of the time, somalis will go on, and on about everything thats wrong with our culture. So, we are famous for negative self-criticism. You are doing the same thing here. So, it is bit odd to complaining about the very thing, you are now doing. It is simple walaal, as somali person you will be exposed to all thats good and bad about somalis. You will just have to learn to nagivate through everything thats somali. You gotta understand also non-somali will only show you their positive side, and try to conceal their bad habits ( Believe me every nation has bad habits). Anyway, it is your choice at end of the day whether you hang out with your ppl, or someone else who you are comfortable with, and worth your time. Just one more thing, if you are cutting all forms of association with somalis in real life.Whats point of associating them in cyberworld. I guess your story is, Malaaga ma cuno laakin fuud kisaa cabaa. P.S Maybe you , magnoon-gal and few others here who had bad experience with somalis can form " Somalis who dunno wanna hang out with other somalis club". Ppl, just wondering it seems everybody who respond to the topic who don't fit Silent-Sista's describtion of somalis. Lets take a sample. What are the chances of all us not having one of those habits. I guess all good somalis are in SOL...lol

I guess, it is official now, every somali admins is ethopia's *****. Menelik can finally look down, and say ethopia's borders end at indian ocean.